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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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December 19, 2023, 06:21:43 AM

Liverpool are disappointed with 1 point but they must analyze themselves that what made them missing three points after creating many opportunities in the match. Onana made some good saves and mistakes too but Liverpool's players are responsible for this draw.

Liverpool played very well in this match. And I would say they deserved the three  points. But Liverpool were unlucky not to score a single goal. When a team has all 10 players  playing the role of defender, it is much more difficult to win against them or score goals. Manchester United's only goal against Liverpool was to draw the match. They make no attempt to attack. Only Liverpool resisted their attacks. Although Manchester United managed to meet their goals, their performance was below average.

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December 19, 2023, 06:26:04 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.

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December 19, 2023, 06:31:30 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
It's your decision, but when Thomas Tuchel was offered Bayern last year, he ran. Moreover, he did this despite Nagelsmann's successful career. I'm sure they will find a coach to manage Manchester United. I think Ten Hag should be sent from the team as soon as possible. It is now doing more harm than good to Manchester United.

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December 19, 2023, 06:32:12 AM

Despite managing to get 1 point against Liverpool, Manchester United's performance was very poor. They played defensively badly. If Liverpool could have scored a goal, Manchester United would not have been able to make a comeback. It is not always possible to score points by playing defensive tactics. I don't see Manchester United winning against West Ham unless their performance improves. If you want to get 3 points, you have to perform better. And certainly cannot be played with such a defensive strategy. As an opponent, the West Ham team cannot be called too weak.
Playing defensively is the most appropriate way for Manchester United to avoid two consecutive defeats because they previously lost badly to Bournemouth at Old Trafford and losing again will increase criticism of them and I'm pretty sure what they are showing is not a sign that they are improving because the next match they will still be likely to lose or only get one point.
From the draw against Liverpool where the match ended goalless proves that Manchester United have problems on their front lines and the one point obtained can be said to be a fortune because many Liverpool opportunities failed to be maximized.
Manchester United's last three matches this year are against West Ham, Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest and from these three matches they will likely return to defeat, especially when facing Aston Villa who is in a very good trend in the last five matches, will Ten Haag apply a defensive strategy again? and if so it is like a stupid decision from a coach who is frustrated with the state of his team.

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December 19, 2023, 06:35:04 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh

Whatever the strategy is the fact that Manchester United get one point in this match that's the most important thing in a match, Manchester United Understanding them will not be able to fight Liverpool if they play an open game so they have to find ways to anticipate it. we will not compare which team is better because it is clear that we all agree Liverpool are the best but as I say the final result is the most important thing. Manchester United still have 2 tough matches ahead they must prepare themselves so they don't get lost or miss points, maybe this is the reason why Manchester played defensively they don't want to lose points in these 3 matches.

The draw against liverpool was boosting the mentality from the players. Varana has been showing if he is still worthy enough to be considered as a strong defenders. It's amazing to see united played even better against liverpool but the bad thing if MU was unable winning the game against liverpool.
From what i have seen that if the defensive line of manchester united performed even better compared to the attacking lines of united. Has the problem changed from the defenders to the attackers? I meant the attackers of manchester united looked so garbage.
They were not able turning some golden chances into the goal and i will be blaming hojlund again. This guy is always running without knowing what he shall do. Hojlund is still defending its record to have 0 goal from lots of matches.
Will hojlund defend his record till the end of season? it will be good to see that we will have a new striker that has zero goal till the end of season. Hojlund was obviously overrated striker.
Ten hag is obviously scammed by atalanta. Hojlund was a flop and ten hag shall give a chance to the other striker to play as starting line up. Manchester united can only focus onto the EPL to get UCL spot for upcoming season.

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December 19, 2023, 06:37:01 AM

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Liverpool are disappointed with 1 point but they must analyze themselves that what made them missing three points after creating many opportunities in the match. Onana made some good saves and mistakes too but Liverpool's players are responsible for this draw.

Liverpool played very well in this match. And I would say they deserved the three  points. But Liverpool were unlucky not to score a single goal. When a team has all 10 players  playing the role of defender, it is much more difficult to win against them or score goals. Manchester United's only goal against Liverpool was to draw the match. They make no attempt to attack. Only Liverpool resisted their attacks. Although Manchester United managed to meet their goals, their performance was below average.

The reason why Liverpool couldn't have access to Manchester united easily in their home is because Manchester united coach did his home work to impact some tactics into their goalkeeper Onana which is their major challenge in this season but Onana prove to people by saving many goals not to allow Liverpool to score a single goal through out the match. I believe Liverpool will never forget what happened in this match, because they where coming with the mindset of defeating Manchester united since many teams are taking victory from them, but not knowing that things has changed positively with Manchester united. Despite their performance was below average, but the most important thing in that match they share points in the home of Liverpool.

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December 19, 2023, 06:39:44 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
About half of the season has been played and Manchester United are 7th in the Premier League and out of the Champions League, which is not good for such a big club. If they want to play CL next year then they need to be in the top 4 teams in the league and that currently Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I also think they need to find a new coach quickly and rebuild the team. How longer they wait, more difficult it could be for them to reach their goals.

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December 19, 2023, 06:52:24 AM

Liverpool played very well in this match. And I would say they deserved the three  points. But Liverpool were unlucky not to score a single goal. When a team has all 10 players  playing the role of defender, it is much more difficult to win against them or score goals. Manchester United's only goal against Liverpool was to draw the match. They make no attempt to attack. Only Liverpool resisted their attacks. Although Manchester United managed to meet their goals, their performance was below average.
Liverpool was looking for any means to win the game because, if you watch the game, Liverpool was leading in every aspect, but Manchester United was serious about not scoring because they already knew they couldn't win against Liverpool, so they started playing a defensive game because Liverpool had eight shots on target and Manchester United had one. It's funny how Manchester United fans react to the club's level of disappointment. And I'm sure Liverpool is frustrated at not being able to score. And I noticed that United wanted to change their game by playing a more defensive game, which worked well for them against Liverpool. And the way things are going, they're making things even more difficult for Liverpool. Arsenal is leading with one point now and I really want Arsenal to win seriously since the city is falling behind.

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December 19, 2023, 06:54:12 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
About half of the season has been played and Manchester United are 7th in the Premier League and out of the Champions League, which is not good for such a big club. If they want to play CL next year then they need to be in the top 4 teams in the league and that currently Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I also think they need to find a new coach quickly and rebuild the team. How longer they wait, more difficult it could be for them to reach their goals.
Manchester United don't need a short term solution to their predicament. They need to calm down and look for a long term solution to the crisis rocking the club and any coach they will settle for at this moment is going to be a temporary something which is not going to help. The best thing is Allow Ten Hag finish the season and bring in another coach during the summer which will start his game plans on a fresh page. Manchester United can survive one season without champions league football.

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December 19, 2023, 07:00:28 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
About half of the season has been played and Manchester United are 7th in the Premier League and out of the Champions League, which is not good for such a big club. If they want to play CL next year then they need to be in the top 4 teams in the league and that currently Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I also think they need to find a new coach quickly and rebuild the team. How longer they wait, more difficult it could be for them to reach their goals.

Manchester United's performance doesn't seem like the team will be able to qualify for the Champions League. Their performance is still very poor. The performances of Aston Villa, Tottenham and Newcastle are stronger than Manchester United. Manchester City is 6 points behind fourth-placed Manchester City and 10 points behind Aston Villa. Qualifying for the Europa League will also become challenging for Manchester United if their performances do not improve. The Manchester United team should win consistently in the upcimming matches. If not, Manchester United will not be able to be in the top 5 of the table.

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December 19, 2023, 07:12:29 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
It's your decision, but when Thomas Tuchel was offered Bayern last year, he ran. Moreover, he did this despite Nagelsmann's successful career. I'm sure they will find a coach to manage Manchester United. I think Ten Hag should be sent from the team as soon as possible. It is now doing more harm than good to Manchester United.
Conte and Thomas Tuchel are the most appropriate choice to replace Erik ten Hag because as Manchester United coach, even though yesterday's match ended in a draw it had no impact on the Red Devils, if a change of coach is made there will definitely be players who will be released and there will definitely be new players brought in.  Maybe it's more appropriate to be at the Red Devils, Erik ten Hag should immediately leave Manchester United because his presence no longer has any impact on Manchester United.

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December 19, 2023, 07:13:21 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

Will be a three-way tie which ironically does not include City (Arsenal, Liverpool, Villa) and what's more, we have back-to-back games against both of them I think, so 2 out of 2 wins is essential to claim the top spot and establish a buffer between them. And City too, since they won't play next week.

Although I am a little frustrated with Darwin's (lack of) finishing.

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December 19, 2023, 07:14:30 AM

Man Utd are a low quality team, they put everybody behind the ball at Anfield. It’s a tactic that relegation battlers employ. Liverpool weren’t at their best but still far more likely to win than Man Utd.

We must improve vs Arsenal at the weekend but there will be more space to play as Arsenal don’t park the bus.

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
Overall, of course, the strategy used by Ten Heg in the match against Liverpool does not look like Man United has high honors as a quality club. They formed a defense like an army that was afraid of enemy attacks and from the start had no confidence in winning. Well it's been a bad season for Man United. But I don't want to think that all the players there are bad. But I prefer to blame how the coach at this club is completely unable to bring out the potential of every player in the club. I know Bruno Fernandes is one of the best from the Portuguese national team along with Felix (current Barcelona player). But when Bruno Fernandes played at Man United he really became like a different player. He always makes decisions hesitantly as if full of worry. I don't know how Ten Heg puts pressure on the players on the pitch. But this also happens to almost all Man United players. Rashford, who was very sharp last season, has even become blunt this season. There is clearly something strange about the managerial approach at this club. All the players seemed to be playing under pressure. They really weren't themselves. As for Liverpool, I can't say much about them. One word is enough for them this season. Amazing !

It seems like there is no other way and one of the best techniques is a defensive strategy, and it has now been proven that Erik ten Hag's strategy can make Jurgen Klopp's strategy overwhelmed because Liverpool's players are unable to penetrate Manchester United's defense, but the quality of Liverpool's players is indeed Very good and usually Mohamed Salah always scores goals in matches, but at that time Mohamed Salah couldn't show his best performance because Manchester United's lineup was very strong. In the next match, I think we will see Liverpool's strength, whether they win against Arsenal or not. Of course, this match will bring together 2 strong teams which are currently 1st and 2nd place in the standings and I'm sure that even though Liverpool drew against Manchester United, I'm sure of their strength. What Liverpool has is still good. I think so far Mikel Arteta has been very good at setting strategy for Arsenal and of course now Mikel Arteta must be able to maintain his ranking position so that no team can shiftArsenal's position.

I agree that we can't blame Manchester United players completely because of course the role of the coach is very important for the team's progress and I think Manchester United players have good potential in the future as long as Erik ten Hag can train Manchester United players well and make good breakthroughs. But in my opinion, replacing Manchester United's coach with a new one would be the best way.

Yes, of course even a good player, if the coach is not good, it will certainly affect the player's performance.

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December 19, 2023, 07:28:55 AM

Achieving one point against Liverpool helped bit Manchester United keep close points to return to fourth standings, current position Manchester United remaining six points from Manchester City and have focus achieving three points upcoming match against West Ham United.
Man United seem to have better luck with this game. West Ham will play in the EFL Cup on December 21. So West Ham seem to have a more hectic schedule and certainly maybe get tired. Man United should be able to seize this moment. Although they are going to the London Stadium. Holding Liverpool to a draw could also be an addition to mental strength for Man United. But I'm also worried that Man United will always look difficult if they meet a club that is not too strong. I think Ten Hag must get 3 points to be safe with Man United until the end of the season.
Despite managing to get 1 point against Liverpool, Manchester United's performance was very poor. They played defensively badly. If Liverpool could have scored a goal, Manchester United would not have been able to make a comeback. It is not always possible to score points by playing defensive tactics. I don't see Manchester United winning against West Ham unless their performance improves. If you want to get 3 points, you have to perform better. And certainly cannot be played with such a defensive strategy. As an opponent, the West Ham team cannot be called too weak.
With the way Manchester United is playing the season, I will not say that they had a poor performance against Liverpool because Manchester United has already been performing poorly this season. What do you expect from a club that Copenhagen came from 2 zeros down to beat to play against Liverpool? Manchester United's game against Liverpool on Saturday was one of Erik Ten Hag's best results this season.

After a 3-0 defeat against a weak team like Bournemouth, getting 1 point against Liverpool is definitely a big achievement for Manchester United. However, Manchester United is one of the giant teams in the Premier League. It is only natural that fans will expect better performances from them. Manchester United failed to meet expectations this season. However, if Manchester United want to stay in the top 4 of the points table, and if they want to qualify for the Champions League, they will definitely need to play better. It is not possible to survive in the Premier League competition with such poor and erratic performances.

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December 19, 2023, 07:49:46 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
I would also prefer to see Ten Heg stay at Man Utd at least until the end of this season. Even though I'm really bored with Man Utd's performance which isn't getting any better. But I'm still curious about what the club will do in the upcoming transfer market in January. And I'm also curious whether Ten Heg can achieve a miracle like last season. We know that last season Man Utd started the season badly. But in the second half of last season they recovered and continued to win in the domestic league and made Man Utd finish in 3rd place last season. Ten Heg still deserves to be given a chance even though I personally don't really like Ten Heg's coaching style. But changing coaches in the middle of the season is not the right step.
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December 19, 2023, 07:54:20 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
Yeah I think you have a point because in as much as changing Ten Hag is very important for the growth of Manchester United but I don't think sacking him now is the best idea because with the current state of Manchester United and how far the season has gone I think there is nothing any coach can possibly do for the club to be better now because if they hire a new coach it will surely take some times before he could start getting use to the team and the time is not what Manchester United need right now, so i believe the best way is to allow Ten Hag to finish the season then before the next season they hire another coach so that by then he will have enough time actualize his coaching skills to the club so that when next season started Manchester United will be reformed.

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TBH, Liverpool is not the Liverpool of last season so it's not something that should be surprising about their performance yesterday. You can imagine a club which had less of their good players in action could still hold Jurgen Klopp's men to a goalless draw can tell one a lot. Man UTD are the only club who haven't lost at the Anfield this season and while yesterday was a day to change the record, Liverpool went ahead to flop it.
 I also must commend Erik's tactic in the game yesterday as they defended more than they attacked. Infact the best way to describe their pattern was like that of a weak team which when overlooked can turn things around on the head and punish you for it as Liverpool were almost punished for their overconfidence.
This draw means they aren't at the first spot and for me I feel that was what Man UTD was hoping to achieve.

Actually Liverpool were much worse than this in the first half of the previous season. If you remember they started to perform much better in the second half of that season but even that wasn't enough for them to finish the league in top 4. Right now their first half performance in the season is much better. At least the number of points they have collected and their position are.

But it is true that their performance at finishing their goal opportunities was really poor against Manchester United as I also said in my previous post. They are still unbeaten for many weeks though but they had better improve their scoring performance again.
Yunno, last season when they gave that thrashing to Man UTD, I'd bet my savings that no one saw that coming cause they were a bit unstable whereas Man UTD were the clear favorites to win but it just wasn't their day at Old Trafford I guess. It's save to say they really burst the bubble of most of their fans(I mean Liverpool) but I guess that's why football is unpredictable. Is it that Jurgen hasnt gotten round the mystery of defeating Man UTD at Anfield or were they just not prepared enough because judging from the stats, it showed Liverpool had the upper hand. I'm just wondering what went wrong.

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December 19, 2023, 08:33:52 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
About half of the season has been played and Manchester United are 7th in the Premier League and out of the Champions League, which is not good for such a big club. If they want to play CL next year then they need to be in the top 4 teams in the league and that currently Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I also think they need to find a new coach quickly and rebuild the team. How longer they wait, more difficult it could be for them to reach their goals.
Manchester United don't need a short term solution to their predicament. They need to calm down and look for a long term solution to the crisis rocking the club and any coach they will settle for at this moment is going to be a temporary something which is not going to help. The best thing is Allow Ten Hag finish the season and bring in another coach during the summer which will start his game plans on a fresh page. Manchester United can survive one season without champions league football.
The Manchester United team is currently passing through the worst position. Where Manchester United are in the best form in other seasons, their matches are going through the worst this season. Of course, Manchester United should work to fill the gap that the club currently has, and change may be possible. The coach needs to make better decisions so that in the next matches they can play well against the opposition and improve Manchester United's game. The current position Manchester United is in will definitely make it very difficult for them to survive in the Champions League and all other leagues. So there is time for Manchester United to make good moves and improve their game, and the biggest move of the coach is definitely needed right now.

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December 19, 2023, 08:41:31 AM

If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
About half of the season has been played and Manchester United are 7th in the Premier League and out of the Champions League, which is not good for such a big club. If they want to play CL next year then they need to be in the top 4 teams in the league and that currently Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Manchester City. I also think they need to find a new coach quickly and rebuild the team. How longer they wait, more difficult it could be for them to reach their goals.

Manchester United's performance doesn't seem like the team will be able to qualify for the Champions League. Their performance is still very poor. The performances of Aston Villa, Tottenham and Newcastle are stronger than Manchester United. Manchester City is 6 points behind fourth-placed Manchester City and 10 points behind Aston Villa. Qualifying for the Europa League will also become challenging for Manchester United if their performances do not improve. The Manchester United team should win consistently in the upcimming matches. If not, Manchester United will not be able to be in the top 5 of the table.
I understand that Manchester United is far from playing their best football. With the way other teams are performing it will be hard for them to make the champoins league spot. What Manchester United should do is to take their focus off the top 4 and make sure they can make the Europa league next season. But they should focus more on rebuilding the team next season.

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December 19, 2023, 08:58:21 AM

The right words were used here haha. Manchester united is a poorly coached low quality side; majority of the players are not world class and the coach is terrible at his job too; underusing the players and failing to get the best of the squads. Embarassed out of the carabao cup and champions league too.

An humbling against West Ham in london and a sack to ten hag will make many fans excited tbh
If Ten Hag is sacked today which coach will Manchester United go for right now that is going to perform the magic and bring immediate success to the club? Ten Hag should not be sacked now let him finish the season. If am a coach and you are asking me to come to Manchester United at this point of the season I won't come.
So far, Manchester United has too often fired coaches who were deemed to have failed to improve the team's performance, this started when Alex Ferguson decided to end his career as a coach. Until now, Manchester United is still having difficulty improving its performance despite bringing in quality players and a new coach. Firing Ten Hag when the team's condition is like this is not the best solution for Manchester United, they have to give Ten Hag time to bring Manchester United back to its best form like last season.

At least Ten Hag has opened up hope for supporters after bringing Manchester United from the bottom of the standings to finishing in the top four. The problem Ten Hag is currently facing is due to the injuries of many of his core players, he must be given a chance at least until the season ends. When players who are currently in the treatment room can play again, it will be easier for Ten Hag to formulate strategies in the Manchester United squad.

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