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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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September 26, 2023, 01:55:08 PM
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I kind of have hope for Man Utd to have a better season than Chelsea right now, Chelsea FC is nearing beyond repair and If time is not taken relegation is their next destination point as their chances of going to relegation are on the steady increase. The presence of Pochettino as manager hasn't yielded any results so far, and likely that nothing will change at any time soon.
Watching both clubs clashing now, ofcourse it won't be entertaining and tough because both clubs are presently struggling. Mauricio Pochettino is an average coach, he do have experience in managing elite clubs but he doesn't have the capacity to continue in streak winnings. We know the major problem of Chelsea, they're inconsistent and the new coach made signings of average players, not one of these signings are experience, playing football as mediocre players. Comparing Manchester united to Chelsea, we already know the answer because the Blues are not in good shape, they're struggling to win league games while United are one step ahead of the blues.

I also wonder why Chelsea can recruit players at high prices and/or at expensive prices, but the players Chelsea recruit in fact is only mediocre players. Obviously it was a funny and failed reshuffle of course, because Chelsea sold experienced players and then, Chelsea spent a lot of money just to bring in players with low quality. So yes, it's not surprising if that Chelsea this season is worse than the previous season, and what's more, it seems like Pochettino also doesn't have a good effort to build the team to be better. So yes, maybe if Chelsea don't fire Pochettino immediately, then maybe Chelsea will really be in danger of being relegated the season.

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September 26, 2023, 01:57:43 PM
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What Erik ten Hag did was indeed quite appropriate for player discipline, but we also have to see that while Erik ten Hag was coaching Manchester United and at Ajax previously he had a lot of problems as a coach with players, not just with Jadon Sancho, I don't mean to defend Sancho, but I think Tenh Hag also has to lower his ego and prioritize the development of the team he handles.
Now that Manchester United is in a very bad state, I think it has quite an impact on the Chemsetry of players and coaches who are not very compatible so that there is no harmony in this squad to carry out all the instructions from Ten Hag by the players.
I find it funny how you say it's right for him to discipline and then say it's an ego thing. He clearly has his standards and anyone who can't live up to it will be left out. It's the player's problems if they were slacking and can't take criticisms from the coach or manager. I don't think Erik ten Hag should bend his rules and he should keep that disciplinarian approach.

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September 26, 2023, 02:02:23 PM
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What Erik ten Hag did was indeed quite appropriate for player discipline, but we also have to see that while Erik ten Hag was coaching Manchester United and at Ajax previously he had a lot of problems as a coach with players, not just with Jadon Sancho, I don't mean to defend Sancho, but I think Tenh Hag also has to lower his ego and prioritize the development of the team he handles.
I think Erik Ten Hag doesn't need to lower his ego. Because ego is necessary for a coach to manage his players. Just think about talented coaches like Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho, Antonio Conte, or Jurgen Klopp... what were their egos like? I believe what Ten Hag needs right now is to adjust his ego and personality to be more suitable, so that other players on the team don't lose confidence and believe that he's not favoring anyone on the team. With that, Ten Hag can slowly revive Manchester United.
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September 26, 2023, 02:30:32 PM
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Of course it is surprising that most people chose Chelsea to win against Aston Villa, but on the contrary, Malo Gusto's foul on Digne by making a tackle too high towards Digne's shin was of course a disaster for Chelsea and they immediately received a red card. the following minutes. second round. and only 10 Chelsea players remained to play. This was an opportunity for Aston Villa to put more pressure on Chelsea's defense, but it was not that easy because Chelsea's defense was very tight and the match became increasingly heated until the final minutes of the match ended.
Until extra time went on for the match, both teams failed to score and Aston Villa finally won with a score of 1-0 against Chelsea.

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September 26, 2023, 02:30:36 PM
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MANCHESTER UNITED AND CHELSEA FC, which is better or which will have a better season?

We all saw and understood how last season was among the worst season of Chelsea Football Club in the recent time. After the change of management and successive change of coaches, they were unable to end above the top 10 in last season's English Premier League. For the fact that they bought many new talents, we expected them to perform better this season but to my surprise Chelsea is still struggling to play good football.
In the other hand, Manchester United my club did very well under their coach Eric who was new then. Everyone expected that they will consolidate their performance this season,  but this season is trying to be a different story for them.

Between Manchester United and Chelsea, who do you think will have a better season?
According to my point of view regarding what Chelsea is currently experiencing, the problem lies not with the players, but with the strategy used by the coach. When a chef is equipped with enough food ingredients to prepare delicious food, but you cannot produce delicious food, don't blame the ingredients but the chef's credibility and ability need to be questioned.
Pochettino cannot be maintained for too long, he has failed to coach Chelsea. The dismissal must be carried out immediately to save Chelsea from falling deeper.

Ten Hag needs time to put together the pieces that have been scattered in the Manchester United squad, Manchester United's performance has declined due to the injuries of many of their core players. In the question season with Manchester United, he was able to improve the team's performance significantly which resulted in MU qualifying for the UCL after a long wait. Ten Hag is going through difficult times with Manchester United, he must be given the opportunity because he has proven capable of handling Manchester United in the first season of his career in the EPL.

In my opinion, Manchester United is better than Chelsea, Manchester United still has the opportunity to recover in the near future, while Chelsea will find it very difficult to recover from their illness as long as Pochettino is still trusted as a tactician.
It's very obvious and clear that Manchester united is better than Chelsea and that would be a straight answer to that question. If we are to lay this two teams side by side from last season up on till now, starting from the various challenges faced by both team and how well they have performed amidst these challenges it will be fair to say Manchester united is better.

Later part of last season both team suffered some form of set backs, for Manchester united it was mostly injuries and players been involved in one scandal or the other but no withstanding they were still able to win the caraboa cup and also made it to the champions league, so far in the premier league and champions league aswell they have been having a fluctuating performance.

Chelsea has been in the worse shape you can think of as they find it really difficult to win games, in the premier league they are really not finding it easy at all as they are struggling with every game they play, sadly the issues they are having can not really be traced to the coach, player or the management of the team it's just a whole lot and it will take so much time to fix but in the case of Manchester united a change in their tactics and giving them little time to adjust will most likely fix them.

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September 26, 2023, 02:31:50 PM
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I also wonder why Chelsea can recruit players at high prices and/or at expensive prices, but the players Chelsea recruit in fact is only mediocre players. Obviously it was a funny and failed reshuffle of course, because Chelsea sold experienced players and then, Chelsea spent a lot of money just to bring in players with low quality.

Chelsea is actually going through a lot of challenges now and the management and couch should be blame for this recent Chelsea's downfall. It would be a miracle if Chelsea is not relegated this season with the recent performance. Having five points after playing six games is a very bad record for a club like Chelsea. Potchettino as a coach is not helping matters with his comments both pre and post match. You can not claim to be building while you do away with useful materials. Selling experienced players and accumulating average and inexperience players is not the right way to build a team. I know the implications of sacking couch prematurely as Chelsea tradition but Potchettino is not suppose to finish this season with Chelsea if they're really serious.

I think Erik Ten Hag doesn't need to lower his ego. Because ego is necessary for a coach to manage his players. Just think about talented coaches like Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho, Antonio Conte, or Jurgen Klopp... what were their egos like? I believe what Ten Hag needs right now is to adjust his ego and personality to be more suitable, so that other players on the team don't lose confidence and believe that he's not favoring anyone on the team. With that, Ten Hag can slowly revive Manchester United.

But reverse is the case in this case. ETH ego is not helping the team at the moment and besides, team success is more important than his personal ego. There's nothing wrong in bending the rules to achieve a desire result when it's necessary. There's a way to discipline a player as a couch and it won't be obvious as if you have personal issues with them. Maintaining your ego at the detriment of the team is not a quality of a good couch. ETH started well but everything seems to be working against him at the moment and there's need for redress urgently to bring the team back on track.

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September 26, 2023, 02:34:59 PM
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I kind of have hope for Man Utd to have a better season than Chelsea right now, Chelsea FC is nearing beyond repair and If time is not taken relegation is their next destination point as their chances of going to relegation are on the steady increase. The presence of Pochettino as manager hasn't yielded any results so far, and likely that nothing will change at any time soon.
Watching both clubs clashing now, ofcourse it won't be entertaining and tough because both clubs are presently struggling. Mauricio Pochettino is an average coach, he do have experience in managing elite clubs but he doesn't have the capacity to continue in streak winnings. We know the major problem of Chelsea, they're inconsistent and the new coach made signings of average players, not one of these signings are experience, playing football as mediocre players. Comparing Manchester united to Chelsea, we already know the answer because the Blues are not in good shape, they're struggling to win league games while United are one step ahead of the blues.

I also wonder why Chelsea can recruit players at high prices and/or at expensive prices, but the players Chelsea recruit in fact is only mediocre players. Obviously it was a funny and failed reshuffle of course, because Chelsea sold experienced players and then, Chelsea spent a lot of money just to bring in players with low quality. So yes, it's not surprising if that Chelsea this season is worse than the previous season, and what's more, it seems like Pochettino also doesn't have a good effort to build the team to be better. So yes, maybe if Chelsea don't fire Pochettino immediately, then maybe Chelsea will really be in danger of being relegated the season.
I have been thinking about this since the time Pochettino carried out a major overhaul of Chelsea and I believed and also said that this was a very good effort to overhaul all the players in each line which was overhauled by the coach. after the reshuffle was carried out, I did not have time to see how much Chelsea spent, but since the pre season match started, I was a little surprised that the players recruited were only ordinary players but paid very expensive fees. the question is whether Pochettino can not compare which players have talent and which players only have standard talent? TBH, I thought Pochettino was too ambitious in replacing players carelessly, after that he wanted to implement a new strategy that he had planned, but it turned out that the new players he recruited were very bad and could not implement the strategy well and I blame Pochettino more here because he was the one who chose the players for bought and he is the one who has the responsibility to change it for the better for Chelsea.

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September 26, 2023, 02:57:38 PM
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What Erik ten Hag did was indeed quite appropriate for player discipline, but we also have to see that while Erik ten Hag was coaching Manchester United and at Ajax previously he had a lot of problems as a coach with players, not just with Jadon Sancho, I don't mean to defend Sancho, but I think Tenh Hag also has to lower his ego and prioritize the development of the team he handles.
I think Erik Ten Hag doesn't need to lower his ego. Because ego is necessary for a coach to manage his players. Just think about talented coaches like Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho, Antonio Conte, or Jurgen Klopp... what were their egos like? I believe what Ten Hag needs right now is to adjust his ego and personality to be more suitable, so that other players on the team don't lose confidence and believe that he's not favoring anyone on the team. With that, Ten Hag can slowly revive Manchester United.
It is true that all coaches have a tough character or what we often call discipline, circumstances demand this in order to maintain the club performance to remain stable. It's true that Ten Hag needs to make a slight update to his approach with players, without giving them special privileges so as not to cause division in the dressing room. I think things will improve soon if all the injured players are available again, and Ten Hag has several rotation options if there is a decline in performance in the starting XI.

A player self-confidence really depends on the results of previous matches, and their role in contributing to the team during the match. In an unstable situation like the current one, Ten Hag efforts to bring his squad will continue to be challenged. It must be admitted that his second season at Old Trafford was a little more difficult, a series of player injuries, slow adaptation of new players and off-field player scandals made the current situation complex.

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September 26, 2023, 02:59:16 PM
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I kind of have hope for Man Utd to have a better season than Chelsea right now, Chelsea FC is nearing beyond repair and If time is not taken relegation is their next destination point as their chances of going to relegation are on the steady increase. The presence of Pochettino as manager hasn't yielded any results so far, and likely that nothing will change at any time soon.
Watching both clubs clashing now, ofcourse it won't be entertaining and tough because both clubs are presently struggling. Mauricio Pochettino is an average coach, he do have experience in managing elite clubs but he doesn't have the capacity to continue in streak winnings. We know the major problem of Chelsea, they're inconsistent and the new coach made signings of average players, not one of these signings are experience, playing football as mediocre players. Comparing Manchester united to Chelsea, we already know the answer because the Blues are not in good shape, they're struggling to win league games while United are one step ahead of the blues.

I also wonder why Chelsea can recruit players at high prices and/or at expensive prices, but the players Chelsea recruit in fact is only mediocre players. Obviously it was a funny and failed reshuffle of course, because Chelsea sold experienced players and then, Chelsea spent a lot of money just to bring in players with low quality. So yes, it's not surprising if that Chelsea this season is worse than the previous season, and what's more, it seems like Pochettino also doesn't have a good effort to build the team to be better. So yes, maybe if Chelsea don't fire Pochettino immediately, then maybe Chelsea will really be in danger of being relegated the season.
I have been thinking about this since the time Pochettino carried out a major overhaul of Chelsea and I believed and also said that this was a very good effort to overhaul all the players in each line which was overhauled by the coach. after the reshuffle was carried out, I did not have time to see how much Chelsea spent, but since the pre season match started, I was a little surprised that the players recruited were only ordinary players but paid very expensive fees. the question is whether Pochettino can not compare which players have talent and which players only have standard talent? TBH, I thought Pochettino was too ambitious in replacing players carelessly, after that he wanted to implement a new strategy that he had planned, but it turned out that the new players he recruited were very bad and could not implement the strategy well and I blame Pochettino more here because he was the one who chose the players for bought and he is the one who has the responsibility to change it for the better for Chelsea.

In my opinion, a major overhaul like the one carried out by Pochettino can have risks, but it can also bring success if all elements support each other and the players understand and implement the new strategy well.
for example, newly recruited players may need time to adapt to a new team and strategy. They may not be able to perform optimally at the start of the match, but over time they can become valuable assets. and is only visible over a longer period of time. It is important for supporters to give coaches and players time to adapt before assessing whether the team reshuffle will be successful or not.
So it's not certain that Pochettino's current overhaul at Chelsea will fail, maybe it just takes time to prove it.

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September 26, 2023, 03:01:49 PM
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I am not surprised by this fact because basically the quality of the Chelsea team is no better than Newcastle, Aston Villa or West Ham. Chelsea are verry bad to be expected to be as impressive as their fans expect, meaning they are still in sleep mode for their last 6 matches even though he was able to win 5 points. LOL

The team is still devastated by the bad results it has suffered, but Pochettino still has hope of improving it if he is still trusted to serve as coach until the end of the season. Changes in strategy and player rotation are needed instead of relying on expensive squads to drop points in relatively easy matches.

In terms of squad quality Chelsea have the better players but with less experience playing in the premier league. The current problem with this Chelsea sode is that most of the players are very young and still lack that level of experience to compete amongst the top teams in the premier league at the moment. The team needs some experienced players to guide and lead this young ones, this is not entirely Pochettino fault.

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September 26, 2023, 03:29:43 PM
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 The issue between Sancho and Erik ten Hag is some how getting out of hand because I don't understand why a manager would let this happen up till this very moment. The player in question said he trains very well and the manager is saying otherwise and from what have seen, is like the manager doesn't like the player Sancho and is like Erik ten Hag prefer Antony to Sancho.
 With this issue at hand is it right for Sancho to apologize?Because to me I don't see Sancho being at fault here, the best thing is to resolve the issue behind close door, fine Sancho hasn't been in his best form but as a manager you have to take any actions you feel is right on any player who has messed and let it end there and not by suspending the player
or even preventing him from associating with his team mates. I don't think Erik ten Hag is right on this one.

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September 26, 2023, 03:51:01 PM
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A red card in the game between Chelsea Aston villa was very much avoidable but it was sad Chelsea got the card regardless, I don't know if to blame it on the player or anyone but one thing I think for sure was that it was very unnecessary at that point, there are other big team they will get a red card against and I will see it as worth it to an extent but not for a team like Aston villa.
The red card issue actually destabilized the entire game plan for Chelsea, from the replay of that tackle, and if it were to be some referee they might have considered that tackle as not a red card offense but should have been decided as a yellow card offense rather, the tackle in my opinion was not that intentional as they offender went for the ball first before matching on the opponents leg.  Anyways, performance was bad and Chelsea did have ample opportunity to have gotten a goal but they couldn't utilize any.

That's why it's so difference to see the game play of chelsea compared with city. Chelsea being so clueless after malo got red card. I think that malo was doing unnecessary thing that put chelsea in disadvantage but this club obviously has no winner mentality.
I think that the referee has different take compared with has. We may have wrong about that. Chelsea's chance to be relegated becomes far bigger now caused by 6 games played and 5 points acquired by chelsea.
The chelsea's level is so standard at this moment. It's even worst compared with midtable team which is so weird. Pochettino keeps do more experiment to the club by putting some players out of their position.
Pochettino is getting offside in determining the suitable positions for his players. I saw that pochettino was clueless. He was not always putting the players on their actual positions.
A bunch of complaints have come toward him.

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Even if Chelsea season has gotten off to a challenging start, it would be premature to write them off. There is still plenty of time to make up the points deficit. It is  important to remember that coaching techniques and overall team dynamics also play a part, even though new players adjusting to English football culture may be an influence. Senior player support has been severely limited by the makeover, which increases the difficulty. To solve the issues thoroughly, it is crucial to take into account players and coaches while also assessing the club management. Chelsea still has time to change their season because they still have games left to play.
As long Chelsea is still in decline, it is perhaps natural that many people will underestimate them. So far Pochettino has not been able to have an impact on Chelsea's game as a whole, but there is optimism that the fans must fight for even though they have dropped points so easily so far.

I agree that Pochettino is still in the adaptation stage to find the best form for his players, but if Chelsea drags on like this then the players' trust is really damaged. Pochettino must be able to motivate his players to do something better, but of course it won't be as easy as he says. There is still time, but the question is how long?

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The red card issue actually destabilized the entire game plan for Chelsea, from the replay of that tackle, and if it were to be some referee they might have considered that tackle as not a red card offense but should have been decided as a yellow card offense rather, the tackle in my opinion was not that intentional as they offender went for the ball first before matching on the opponents leg.  Anyways, performance was bad and Chelsea did have ample opportunity to have gotten a goal but they couldn't utilize any.

The laxity of the team is still one amongst the major reason why Chelsea has been underperforming which is resultant to the management and squad depth. The red card was avoidable as far as I am concerned and wasn't the fault of the referee. The way they performed was really bad and that alone would have frustrated the referee for real. Chelsea needs to brace up if at all they have future in this season. Not for the gains alone but for the fans.

That's why it's so difference to see the game play of chelsea compared with city. Chelsea being so clueless after malo got red card. I think that malo was doing unnecessary thing that put chelsea in disadvantage but this club obviously has no winner mentality.
I think that the referee has different take compared with has. We may have wrong about that. Chelsea's chance to be relegated becomes far bigger now caused by 6 games played and 5 points acquired by chelsea.
The chelsea's level is so standard at this moment. It's even worst compared with midtable team which is so weird. Pochettino keeps do more experiment to the club by putting some players out of their position.
Pochettino is getting offside in determining the suitable positions for his players. I saw that pochettino was clueless. He was not always putting the players on their actual positions.
A bunch of complaints have come toward him.

Like I've oftentimes mentioned is that both the coach and the players of the club lack confidence. For a team like Aston Villa, it is ought to be a straight win for Chelsea but the annoyingly lack that experience, expertise and vibe to win. Not in this season. If they don't improve in their playing style before the mid of the season, they might end up in the last half standings in the premier league.

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I see that with this defeat, Chelsea's chances of leaving the Premier League have increased to 1 in 51  Grin This is a small chance, but for comparison it is 1 in 251 for United and 1 in 501 for Brighton. But at the same time, Chelsea still has a good chance of entering the top 4: 1 in 5. This is only 20%, but is this not enough for a dream?  Grin
I don't know how long the crisis in Chelsea will last or how quickly it will end, but it looks like their fans will mostly suffer.
I have just understood that that from last season that Chelsea changed their management and also change their coach, the blame of non-performance has always been on the coaches and not on the Chelsea management, neither do we have them on the individual players. Some persons have begun to say that pochettino is not a good coach that he needs to leave Chelsea.
If Thomas was not a good coach and also Graham Potter was not a good coach then we know that Lampard was not a good coach and pochettino also is not a good coach who then will be the best coach for Chelsea?

Good question. Chelsea had a kaleidoscope of both coaches and players (who were selected not by the coaches but by the management), so the blame can safely be laid on the management. Another question is what to do about it. If you fire Pochettino now, the kaleidoscope will continue; if you don’t fire him, then maybe Chelsea will lose their last chance to rise from the depths to at least the Eurocup zone (I’m not talking about the Champions League, but at least the Europa League).

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MANCHESTER UNITED AND CHELSEA FC, which is better or which will have a better season?

We all saw and understood how last season was among the worst seasons of Chelsea Football Club in recent times. After the change of management and successive changes of coaches, they were unable to end above the top 10 in last season's English Premier League. For the fact that they bought many new talents, we expected them to perform better this season but to my surprise, Chelsea is still struggling to play good football.

Between Manchester United and Chelsea, who do you think will have a better season?
I kind of have hope for Man Utd to have a better season than Chelsea right now, Chelsea FC is nearing beyond repair and If time is not taken relegation is their next destination point as their chances of going to relegation are on the steady increase. The presence of Pochettino as manager hasn't yielded any results so far, and likely that nothing will change at any time soon.

You got what you wanted. MU is starting to go up while chelsea is even closer to the relegation zone. MU has been doing some progress like winning the match against burnley which was helping the club a lot in avoiding the bottom table.
I see there will be no change to happen with chelsea as poch said that if he will keep use same strategy in upcoming match. It's really understandable if chelsea fans are so angry to the club.
I saw various expressions were coming from their fans and they are entitled to their opinions. Chelsea's performance is so dreadful. Chelsea was always repeating the same pattern in any game.


The club played so well during first 20 minutes then it's declining so hard. Im even very boring to see the same pattern owned by chelsea. Many people were always being trapped by this team.
I don't even know how much time can be allowed for the players to get their confidences. It's absolute torture for whole of the blues fans to watch the game play from jackson and friends.

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The issue between Sancho and Erik ten Hag is some how getting out of hand because I don't understand why a manager would let this happen up till this very moment. The player in question said he trains very well and the manager is saying otherwise and from what have seen, is like the manager doesn't like the player Sancho and is like Erik ten Hag prefer Antony to Sancho.
 With this issue at hand is it right for Sancho to apologize?Because to me I don't see Sancho being at fault here, the best thing is to resolve the issue behind close door, fine Sancho hasn't been in his best form but as a manager you have to take any actions you feel is right on any player who has messed and let it end there and not by suspending the player
or even preventing him from associating with his team mates. I don't think Erik ten Hag is right on this one.

This is another problem I think is holding Manchester United from doing well and if Erik ten Hag doesn't clean up this mess between him and Sancho I think is going to affect the performance of the club. With the way Manchester United are playing I just see some players acting up and I don't wish for the manager to be sacked or anything but eyes are now on him not in a positive way but in a negative way. Knowing Manchester as a club that have great players, the likes of Paul Scholes, Ferdinand and the rest of them, they'll all be questioning the decisions of the manager which is not cool, we all know how they do things, is best they are on his side than against him. So I think if Erik ten Hag and Sancho are in good condition I feel the Manchester United style of play will change for good.
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It is very strange the performance of Chelsea even after such time and after such big spending last year for good quality players which in the field are not responding to their amount.I think that while I believed these players needed time as they suffered from injuries quite some of them,right now is a different scenario,the injuries are gone but the bad results are still here and this means that it was not a problem of injuries after all.

They have gotten a better coach which unfortunately even he is not showing the desired results and I don't want to be in Chelsea management right now as I would not know what to do really.
Even if Chelsea season has gotten off to a challenging start, it would be premature to write them off. There is still plenty of time to make up the points deficit. It is  important to remember that coaching techniques and overall team dynamics also play a part, even though new players adjusting to English football culture may be an influence. Senior player support has been severely limited by the makeover, which increases the difficulty. To solve the issues thoroughly, it is crucial to take into account players and coaches while also assessing the club management. Chelsea still has time to change their season because they still have games left to play.
The points deficit will be met if Chelsea's form can improve but as of now I see no signs of that which makes me doubt that Chelsea will do anything great this season as the possibility of a mid-table finish like before is still very much a possibility.
Chelsea still haven't found anything from the money they spent before and this clearly seems in vain for what Chelsea have done to this day.
If they can improve their performance and not like now because they play badly then maybe they can be in a better position but by looking at the performance now I will not really believe this can be done by Chelsea for the near future.


I think Erik ten Hag really wants to discipline his problematic players and I think what Erik ten Hag has done is quite right. In fact, if Sancho wants to apologize to Erik ten Hag all the problems will be resolved and if he still doesn't want to apologize then it is certain that he will leave next winter because Erik ten Hag also doesn't want this problem to continue to drag on.
Regarding Sancho, it's indeed a disappointing signing, and I think Manchester United's leadership and Ten Hag shouldn't be lenient with players of this type. Sancho's unprofessional attitude on the field, along with his disrespect towards teammates and the coach, is exactly what Cristiano Ronaldo mentioned in an interview.
When saying Sancho's performance is bad then what to do with the condition of Maguire, Onana or even now maybe Antony who got into trouble.
I don't think it's a performance issue but while some of the other players just went along with what Ten Hag was doing, Sancho became a player who didn't really like Ten Hag's style of play and what Ten Hag was doing so it became like a challenge and indiscipline for the coach.

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September 26, 2023, 04:39:41 PM
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The red card issue actually destabilized the entire game plan for Chelsea, from the replay of that tackle, and if it were to be some referee they might have considered that tackle as not a red card offense but should have been decided as a yellow card offense rather, the tackle in my opinion was not that intentional as they offender went for the ball first before matching on the opponents leg.  Anyways, performance was bad and Chelsea did have ample opportunity to have gotten a goal but they couldn't utilize any.
Pochettino might as well count his days as headcoach of Chelsea because his clock is ticking, the supporters keep echoing and chanting about his sack during games at Stamford Bridge. Losing 1 nil was a dissapointing results for the blues, they never expected a red card for the defendlines. Malo Gusto tackle was probably based on gaining the ball, but with irrelevant raising up his boot towards his opponent, making it everything clear as a deliberate action. Chelsea previous game against Aston Villa, experiencing defeat was not part of the plan, instead they would have settle for a draw tie.


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September 26, 2023, 04:45:00 PM
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What Erik ten Hag did was indeed quite appropriate for player discipline, but we also have to see that while Erik ten Hag was coaching Manchester United and at Ajax previously he had a lot of problems as a coach with players, not just with Jadon Sancho, I don't mean to defend Sancho, but I think Tenh Hag also has to lower his ego and prioritize the development of the team he handles.
I think Erik Ten Hag doesn't need to lower his ego. Because ego is necessary for a coach to manage his players. Just think about talented coaches like Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho, Antonio Conte, or Jurgen Klopp... what were their egos like? I believe what Ten Hag needs right now is to adjust his ego and personality to be more suitable, so that other players on the team don't lose confidence and believe that he's not favoring anyone on the team. With that, Ten Hag can slowly revive Manchester United.

So at this moment, at least the attitude of maturity and professionalism should be applied because if not, then the dispute between them will become more difficult to overcome. Moreover, Manchester United position at this moment is also bad and also, Manchester United will face a more difficult competition than last season. Therefore, Erik ten Hag should be more assertive and do not need to lower his ego, because as a coach, he must have a firm and disciplined attitude to build the team even better. Because after all, the coach has authority in the team, so it would be inappropriate if Erik ten Hag lowered his ego, because it would make him weak. But indeed, basically Manchester United has started the season not well, so it will indeed be difficult to recover quickly.

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