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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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July 20, 2023, 02:59:29 PM
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If the player you are referring to is Ilkay Gundogan, then you have made a big mistake. Ilkay Gundogan has become an official Barcelona player, it was announced some time ago since Barcelona managed to sign him for free.
Gundogan is very good for tiki taka after about six years with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Even Pep upgraded initial tiki taka from Barcelona to Bayern Munich then Manchester City, the core idea of tiki taka was digested by Gundogan. He will not have difficulty in Barcelona especially we saw Xavi did not change the initial tiki taka too much in one season and a half with Barcelona.

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I agree that Ilkay Gundogan has contributed greatly to Manchester City's title success over the last few seasons, but unfortunately Manchester City did not manage to extend his contract so Barcelona stepped forward as the next port of Ilkay's career.
They did not want to sign a too long contract with an old player like Gundogan but it is what the player wanted. Without agreement, they had to separated and Gundogan also want to challenge himself at a new league, La Liga.
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July 20, 2023, 03:06:45 PM
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Gundogan is very good for tiki taka after about six years with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Even Pep upgraded initial tiki taka from Barcelona to Bayern Munich then Manchester City, the core idea of tiki taka was digested by Gundogan. He will not have difficulty in Barcelona especially we saw Xavi did not change the initial tiki taka too much in one season and a half with Barcelona.
I agree, both teams have the same style of play where both focus on ball possession with short and accurate passes.
Of course this will make it easier for Ilkay Gundogan to adapt to the game, but it might be hampered if he doesn't get good support from other players. But I'm sure Ilkay Gundogan won't have too many difficulties during his adaptation at Barcelona, ​​that's because of his professionalism and high experience as a top player.

They did not want to sign a too long contract with an old player like Gundogan but it is what the player wanted. Without agreement, they had to separated and Gundogan also want to challenge himself at a new league, La Liga.
Whether Manchester City has plans to keep Ilkay Gundogan or not before his contract expires last season, Ilkay Gundogan also has a desire to play in La Liga with Barcelona.

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July 20, 2023, 03:11:38 PM
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Gundogan is very good for tiki taka after about six years with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Even Pep upgraded initial tiki taka from Barcelona to Bayern Munich then Manchester City, the core idea of tiki taka was digested by Gundogan. He will not have difficulty in Barcelona especially we saw Xavi did not change the initial tiki taka too much in one season and a half with Barcelona.
Gundogan will have no trouble with Xavi's game tactics. he will be a tremendous support for Lewandowski. this season could be the most productive season for Barcelona I think. I don't understand why Pep could let Gundogan go to Barcelona. he is one of City's important players in getting a trophy this season. I'm sure it will be Xavi's luck this season.



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July 20, 2023, 03:35:36 PM
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After Harry Maguire will not captain Manchester United next season, now the main captain position will be held by Bruno Fernandes. I think Bruno Fernandes is the right player for this role and I hope he can be a confidant for his teammates on the pitch. Maybe in discussions with the referees he is very good, but when the team is in trouble I don't think he has the soul of a leader in those situations and often the player who can get a squad motivated again is Casemiro. I had thought that Casemiro would be the next main captain for Manchester United because he has a great leadership spirit, but it seems that Erik ten Hag has again appointed the captain of a player who has lasted quite a long time at this club.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1681993778964361216

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July 20, 2023, 03:37:04 PM
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I’m reading that Danjuma will join Everton. Isn’t this the same player that snubbed Everton after completing medicals to join Tottenham in January this year or is this another Danjuma?  Because I could remember that he had agreed to join Everton in January, even undergoing a medical, only to change tack when Frank Lampard was sacked as manager and he signed for Tottenham. I don’t know how to feel about this move but Everton struggled last season, they sorely lacked goals last season and have been desperately looking to add more firepower to their attack but with a restricted budget, they have now found it difficult to move on some of the players they want. Now this loan move falls in line with Everton's finances.
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July 20, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
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Pep Guardiola currently has enough midfielders who can replace Ilkay Gundogan. The departure of the captain is very unfortunate. Ilkay Gundogan seems to want a new challenge. He chose to leave and not extend the contract and now he is a Barcelona midfielder. But Pep need not worry because he has Mateo Kovacic, Phil Foden and Bernardo Silva. These three players have skills that are no less great than Ilkay Gundogan. So that the Manchester City squad will definitely remain ready to be a team that is back in the title hunt in the season to come soon.

I'm not too worried about Manchester City's performance but I'm curious about Arsenal's season which is about to start. I want to see how Arteta can build his squad back up for the better. We know last season that Arsenal were superior to other teams, but in front of Manchester City it turned out that Arsenal couldn't do much. Will this happen again or will there be a surprise? I'm really curious about this. Unfortunately Arsenal and Manchester City will compete in October, namely in Week 8. And that's still a long time away  Sad
Well, indeed his departure was very regrettable but Manchester City could not completely prevent his departure because after all Gundogan had made a significant contribution in several wins, therefore Guardiola fulfilled his decision to leave. I think one of the reasons for his departure may be that Gundogan has achieved everything at Manchester City, and then I heard that Bernardo Silva would also follow in his footsteps to leave. The exit of several mainstay players will probably make Manchester City experience a decline in form in the competition next season and I hope that Guardiola will be able to take advantage of all the opportunities that come his way, the most important of which is by making it easier for new players like Kovacic to adapt. Then I hope Guardiola will be able to maintain the form of some other important players like Haaland, Kevin De Bruyne and Ederson. Because it is clear that next season will be more prestigious than last season and it is certain that Arsenal will continue to catch up.

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July 20, 2023, 03:37:56 PM
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If Manchester City doesn't get consistent performances from Kevin De Bruyne and Haaland next season, Manchester City's performance will definitely deteriorate drastically. Because I think Kevin De Bruyne and Haaland's excellent performance is why this team has been able to play consistently well in the last season. Kevin De Bruyne helps stabilize Manchester City's midfield. And Haaland scored plenty of goals last season. Every player in Manchester City's squad has contributed to the title win. However, these two players have played an important role in stabilizing the overall performance of the team.

We know very well that these two players are part of the core of the Manchester City squad. but that does not mean, other players do not have a contribution. So, I think in theory it won't always be like that, you can see when City played in the Champions League final. Haaland, did not contribute to scoring. while De Brunye, pulled out because of injury. but since City have other players to rely on, they can make the most of their game. Manchester City, remains a formidable team and difficult to overthrow their opponents. the point is, each player has their respective duties. whether it's Haaland as his opponent's goal scorer, De Brunye, Silva, Grealish, even City's second tier players. as well as their two pivots namely, Rodri and John Stones. these two players are important both in defense as well as when building attacks.

The point is, City relies more on the technique and system that Pep applies. so if one of them leaves, Pep will get a replacement that fits the pattern criteria that he applies. the point is, Manchester City is more focused on tactics and teamwork. that's why, this team is very tough. plus, filled with ideal players in their respective lines.

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July 20, 2023, 04:06:01 PM
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We know very well that these two players are part of the core of the Manchester City squad. but that does not mean, other players do not have a contribution. So, I think in theory it won't always be like that, you can see when City played in the Champions League final. Haaland, did not contribute to scoring. while De Brunye, pulled out because of injury. but since City have other players to rely on, they can make the most of their game. Manchester City, remains a formidable team and difficult to overthrow their opponents. the point is, each player has their respective duties. whether it's Haaland as his opponent's goal scorer, De Brunye, Silva, Grealish, even City's second tier players. as well as their two pivots namely, Rodri and John Stones. these two players are important both in defense as well as when building attacks.

Well, that's not going to happen, what I mean is players don't always show their best game and there are times when they might make some mistakes and besides that, it's also possible that injuries will happen. But to be honest I believe in Guardiola because he can always take every opportunity that comes his way. The departure of several important players like Gundogan and reportedly to be followed by Bernardo Silva might have a slight negative impact on Manchester City's performance next season. But still, if they have a great coach like Guardiola all the odds they don't want they can overcome and I believe that Manchester City will still be a great squad next season and Haaland will still be a goalscoring machine.

The point is, City relies more on the technique and system that Pep applies. so if one of them leaves, Pep will get a replacement that fits the pattern criteria that he applies. the point is, Manchester City is more focused on tactics and teamwork. that's why, this team is very tough. plus, filled with ideal players in their respective lines.

Guardiola always implements his scheme as a whole so they are very strong, some players who leave or get injured are not a big problem for him because he can always find replacement candidates according to what Manchester City needs. In fact, it is difficult to find Manchester City's weaknesses, they are very compact on the field and can always create sharp opportunities in every match.

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July 20, 2023, 04:15:42 PM
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Gundogan is very good for tiki taka after about six years with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Even Pep upgraded initial tiki taka from Barcelona to Bayern Munich then Manchester City, the core idea of tiki taka was digested by Gundogan. He will not have difficulty in Barcelona especially we saw Xavi did not change the initial tiki taka too much in one season and a half with Barcelona.
Gundogan will have no trouble with Xavi's game tactics. he will be a tremendous support for Lewandowski. this season could be the most productive season for Barcelona I think. I don't understand why Pep could let Gundogan go to Barcelona. he is one of City's important players in getting a trophy this season. I'm sure it will be Xavi's luck this season.

Gundogan won't face too much trouble adjusting to Barcelona's squad. Gundogan is a very experienced player, while Xavi is very helpful. With Xavi's support, Gundogan may be able to adapt to Barcelona's style of play very quickly. Also, I think Xavi often follows Guardiola's match tactics. Since Gundogan has been with Guardiola for so long, I think Gundogan will play well with Xavi's match tactics. Gundogan has helped stabilize Manchester City's performance. Barcelona will also have high expectations from Gundogan.

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July 20, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
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Gundogan is very good for tiki taka after about six years with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Even Pep upgraded initial tiki taka from Barcelona to Bayern Munich then Manchester City, the core idea of tiki taka was digested by Gundogan. He will not have difficulty in Barcelona especially we saw Xavi did not change the initial tiki taka too much in one season and a half with Barcelona.
Gundogan will have no trouble with Xavi's game tactics. he will be a tremendous support for Lewandowski. this season could be the most productive season for Barcelona I think. I don't understand why Pep could let Gundogan go to Barcelona. he is one of City's important players in getting a trophy this season. I'm sure it will be Xavi's luck this season.

Why don't you understand why Pep Guardiola let Gundogan go because basically, Gundogan is 32 years old and also his contract has expired. Thus, then of course Pep Guardiola will make regeneration for the Manchester City squad and so it is quite reasonable Manchester City did not extend Gundogan's contract. Because anyway, if Gundogan gets a contract extension then maybe, Gundogan will also start to be replaced by younger players later. So, I don't think it will be a problem for Manchester City, because they will try to maximize other talents for a more long-term Manchester City squad as well.

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July 20, 2023, 04:40:06 PM
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Gundogan was a key player for Manchester City. But I don't think Manchester City will face too many problems without Gundogan in the squad. Because apart from Gundogan, Guardiola has some excellent midfielders like Kevin De Bruyne, Hernandez, and Bernardo Silva. Because of this, Gundogan's absence in the midfield will not be felt much by Manchester City. Because of this, City's performance is more likely to continue in the next season as well. Guardiola has had enough time to strengthen the bond between his players. Hopefully next season we will get the opportunity to enjoy more excellent gameplay from Manchester City.
Pep Guardiola still difficult after losing İlkay Gündoğan although has replacement with Mateo Kovacic or Kalvin Phillips because both of them need adapt with Pep Guardiola games play, new recruitment Kovacic need time for adapting how to play well as holding and has function as attacking midfielder. I think Kevin De Bruyne and Bernando Silva are playing with attacking typical can manage well as holding midfielder like İlkay Gündoğan.
But losing one player its not problem for Pep Guardiola, Manchester City still dominance above 90% old squad and has chance to defend with their Primer League tittle next season. Manchester City also succeeded in bringing in new defender Joško Gvardiol from Leipzig and added to their confidence to become champions next season.

Guardiola has not been keen on making too many changes within his squad this season. He remains happy with his previous squad. And Guardiola is well aware that Manchester City will win the title next season if his squad's performances are consistent. I think Guardiola is now fully focused on strengthening the friendly relationship between the players. If the understanding between the players is good, the performance of the team is stable. Guardiola's match strategy is also excellent. City players have been able to easily adapt themselves to Guardiola's match tactics.

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July 20, 2023, 04:57:33 PM
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I’m reading that Danjuma will join Everton. Isn’t this the same player that snubbed Everton after completing medicals to join Tottenham in January this year or is this another Danjuma?  Because I could remember that he had agreed to join Everton in January, even undergoing a medical, only to change tack when Frank Lampard was sacked as manager and he signed for Tottenham. I don’t know how to feel about this move but Everton struggled last season, they sorely lacked goals last season and have been desperately looking to add more firepower to their attack but with a restricted budget, they have now found it difficult to move on some of the players they want. Now this loan move falls in line with Everton's finances.

True, it's the same danjuma. Some reliable news have been also reporting it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arnaut-danjuma-everton-loan-tottenham-30511872

He must be feel a shame for that. He will be nervous about joining in everton. Danjuma has signed by conte but conte has been sacked two months after danjume already announced become a part of the club.
It surprises me how everton is still willing to sign him after that incident. I thought that if everton has no interest in signing him again as a player. He was useless in totenham. Everton can sign a better player compared with him. He has no good attitude.

Does this a boomerang for everton or what?

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July 20, 2023, 05:02:08 PM
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Guardiola has not been keen on making too many changes within his squad this season. He remains happy with his previous squad. And Guardiola is well aware that Manchester City will win the title next season if his squad's performances are consistent. I think Guardiola is now fully focused on strengthening the friendly relationship between the players. If the understanding between the players is good, the performance of the team is stable. Guardiola's match strategy is also excellent. City players have been able to easily adapt themselves to Guardiola's match tactics.
I also think so and with the exit of several players I think it will not affect the team's performance too much because so far Guardiola's children are quite fierce now and they just need to be consistent to be able to become champions again, in terms of the quality of the players, and the quality of the game, of course the team Manchester City are very strong and solid now.
What Guardiola has built is a protracted process and they are now at a successful point because they have gone through the process, now Guardiola only needs to make a balance in this team so that performance is maintained.
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July 20, 2023, 05:16:31 PM
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After Harry Maguire will not captain Manchester United next season, now the main captain position will be held by Bruno Fernandes. I think Bruno Fernandes is the right player for this role and I hope he can be a confidant for his teammates on the pitch. Maybe in discussions with the referees he is very good, but when the team is in trouble I don't think he has the soul of a leader in those situations and often the player who can get a squad motivated again is Casemiro. I had thought that Casemiro would be the next main captain for Manchester United because he has a great leadership spirit, but it seems that Erik ten Hag has again appointed the captain of a player who has lasted quite a long time at this club.
Bruno Fernandes moans/complains quite a lot at his own players when things aren't going Manchester United's way, almost as if to pass off the blame to them and exonerate himself as the person giving his best to the team, i have seen him do that many times and i think it is a disgusting habit that leaves a lot to be desired.

I hope Fernandes works on his attitude now that he is captain, if he does not then he isn't a good captain imo. Having said that, i don't know if Maguire intends to remain in United, but if he does then it will confirm the fact that he's not an ambitious player and one that's just contented with being paid, it isn't just about him being stripped off the captaincy role, but the fact that the manager doesn't have him in his plans and he won't be getting any game-time next season, thus he shouldn't be comfortable with that.
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Gundogan will have no trouble with Xavi's game tactics. he will be a tremendous support for Lewandowski. this season could be the most productive season for Barcelona I think. I don't understand why Pep could let Gundogan go to Barcelona. he is one of City's important players in getting a trophy this season. I'm sure it will be Xavi's luck this season.
As long as Gundogan understands Barcelona's style of play and can understand Xavi's directions, Gundogan will remain safe in Barcelona despite his old age. Barcelona must make good use of Gundogan so that in La Liga this season they have weapons and are ready to compete.

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I also think so and with the exit of several players I think it will not affect the team's performance too much because so far Guardiola's children are quite fierce now and they just need to be consistent to be able to become champions again, in terms of the quality of the players, and the quality of the game, of course the team Manchester City are very strong and solid now.
What Guardiola has built is a protracted process and they are now at a successful point because they have gone through the process, now Guardiola only needs to make a balance in this team so that performance is maintained.
Pep Guardiola main task next season is to rebuild the squad after the departure of several of his star players, most recently Riyad Mahrez has been approved to be released to the Saudi Pro League with Al Ahli. Pep Guardiola seems to be doing a gradual rejuvenation of the squad, a very genius move I think because it won't shake the balance and depth of the Man City squad. The figure of Lyon player Bradley Barcola is reportedly suitable to replace Mahrez, Barcola is still very young and will be a long-term prospect for Man City.

It looks like Pep is starting to get dizzy with the transfer situation for his club, I saw at the start of the transfer market that they didn't seem to be in a situation of targeting players or releasing players. Gundogan opened the gates of Man City for players over 30+ to leave, that's better than being on the bench.

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July 20, 2023, 05:27:36 PM
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Gundogan is very good for tiki taka after about six years with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. Even Pep upgraded initial tiki taka from Barcelona to Bayern Munich then Manchester City, the core idea of tiki taka was digested by Gundogan. He will not have difficulty in Barcelona especially we saw Xavi did not change the initial tiki taka too much in one season and a half with Barcelona.
Gundogan will have no trouble with Xavi's game tactics. he will be a tremendous support for Lewandowski. this season could be the most productive season for Barcelona I think. I don't understand why Pep could let Gundogan go to Barcelona. he is one of City's important players in getting a trophy this season. I'm sure it will be Xavi's luck this season.
I think Pep has his own reasons why Gundogan was allowed to go to Barcelona, I think Pep wants Gundogan to gain new experience at Barcelona and in the Spanish league, besides that Gundogan can also accompany Lewandowski at Barcelona, that will be a good strength this season, especially considering barcelona did not look good in UCL last season despite winning the league.

I also believe that Xavi will not waste this opportunity with the arrival of Gundogan, of course it will bring fresh air to get players who might be able to make Barcelona's attack power even sharper. at least barcelona can be better than last season. Gundogan is the player who managed to bring Manchester city to the Treble winner last season and of course he was very instrumental in many Manchester City matches, it was time for him to show his abilities in the Spanish league with Barcelona. I'm sure he'll adapt quickly too

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Looks like Guendongan is still in the negotiation stage, because it is rumored that he will leave City, Pep is still taking a more approach to maintaining Guendong, however he is a player who made a big contribution to the glory of Manchester City last season.

Seems like you are shooting blanks here  Tongue . Gundogan has already left City to join Barcelona [1] and it has been quite some time now since he was unveiled as new Barca player. Not sure how you think it's still in negotiation stage.

Maybe it is true that Mahrez could leave the city, because he receives an offer from Saudi Arabia,[...]

Mahrez also has left City to join Saudi Arabian side Al-Ahli today [2].

City has so far signed Kovacic and Gvardiol and I think there would be more to come as departure of Mahrez was bit unexpected. It's not a big worry for City as they have lot of players and dense squad so even without a replacement they can manage I think.


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[1] https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345
[2] https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1681772455499821056
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July 20, 2023, 05:46:42 PM
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It seems that I will no longer underestimate Mauricio Pochettino. last night's game was absolutely amazing. Chelsea under the management of Mauricio Pochettino is completely different. The pattern of play and strategy used by Chelsea can really make the match more interesting. Even though it wasn't a big game (Florida Cup). But still, in that match Chelsea played beyond my expectations.

So Chelsea might indeed enter the top ranking competition again this season. Liverpool and Arsenal may be other candidates. and Man City will undoubtedly remain the favourites.
It is true that it is impossible for Chelsea to want Mauricio Pochettino if his strategy is mediocre, he has experience coaching big clubs like PSG. Pochettino good trend on the pre-season tour with a big 5-0 win over Wrexham in the Florida Cup 2023. But to measure the quality of the team's overall play, I don't think Chelsea is an opponent comparable to Wrexham, the difference in class is very much visible.

At least the pre-season tour can be an opportunity to explore the squad for Pochettino, apart from widening their fan base. This is the right moment to prepare the squad before the official EPL rolls around.
From what we have seen from Chelsea performance in the preseason game so far it has shown that Chelsea performance in their games this season will be different from their performance last season . Pochettino is a great coach with strategy that will help the team to perform better than in previous season. Pochettino is capable of improving Chelsea to get to a better position this season, from his experience as a coach I know it will be possible for quality performance.

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July 20, 2023, 06:07:27 PM
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Guardiola has not been keen on making too many changes within his squad this season. He remains happy with his previous squad. And Guardiola is well aware that Manchester City will win the title next season if his squad's performances are consistent. I think Guardiola is now fully focused on strengthening the friendly relationship between the players. If the understanding between the players is good, the performance of the team is stable. Guardiola's match strategy is also excellent. City players have been able to easily adapt themselves to Guardiola's match tactics.
I also think so and with the exit of several players I think it will not affect the team's performance too much because so far Guardiola's children are quite fierce now and they just need to be consistent to be able to become champions again, in terms of the quality of the players, and the quality of the game, of course the team Manchester City are very strong and solid now.
What Guardiola has built is a protracted process and they are now at a successful point because they have gone through the process, now Guardiola only needs to make a balance in this team so that performance is maintained.
Guardiola decided to let Gundogan leave Manchstr city because Guardiola strategy was better to retain young player than to retain senior player but did not make any progress.
I not saying Gundogan doesn't have great strength or talent, but age greatly affects performance in every game, even though Guardiola upbringing is always frightening, but if he is old, his performance will definitely decrease.
But back to the initial discussion that Manchstr city is currently only somewhat improving their players to maintain the same position as last season to compete with other club next season.
But there is a new threat for Guardiola, namely the Arsenal club which is currently bring out a major overhaul of it players to compete with Manchester city next season and Arsenal current goal is to shift Manchstr city position from first place.
Because last season him was runner up as Arsenal hope are still big in the premier league.

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