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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 183

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October 12, 2023, 10:24:40 AM
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[....]Coach Erik Ten Hag still believes that Onana will improve performance quickly.
I mean does he really have a choice at this point? They already invested heavily in the guy so the manager has to keep trusting him. I think he already played enough games to adjust and settle to the Premier League but it hasn't worked out well unfortunately. They probably regret not keeping De Gea for at least a year hehe.

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October 12, 2023, 10:38:58 AM
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Manchester United have only Onana and Altay as the goalkeepers they could make use of. They really don't have any chance other than trying both of them and giving more chances to the one who performs better. Therefore I hope to see Altay being given some chances as well. I mean Onana is still playing the same.

While he is performing poorly I don't think it is logical to be stubborn about continuing to use him in every game. Altay has been a promising goalkeeper so far as well. In this situation I believe he deserves a chance. Let's say he played worse than Onana can take the shirt back from him.

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October 12, 2023, 10:54:21 AM
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[....]Coach Erik Ten Hag still believes that Onana will improve performance quickly.
I mean does he really have a choice at this point? They already invested heavily in the guy so the manager has to keep trusting him. I think he already played enough games to adjust and settle to the Premier League but it hasn't worked out well unfortunately. They probably regret not keeping De Gea for at least a year hehe.
I am one of the people who still believes in Onana even though many of them are skeptical of Onana but I will not doubt it in the middle of the season until end of this season and on the one hand we will see all the improvements after the transfer window reopens and I am quite sure Ten Hag will improve the defensive line players and look for the right players to improve Man United performance.
I not blame anyone but the defense line a little bad so Onanan does not get strong support from the defense line and I say that according to my own observations and I have said this 3 times in this thread. lets just see what will happen but it is still very reassuring if Man United comes back strong soon.

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October 12, 2023, 10:58:12 AM
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Losing six points in two consecutive matches is a big loss for Manchester City, the defeat against Arsenal may be acceptable because Arsenal is one of the teams capable of providing competition for Manchester City this season. The absence of key players could have an impact on Manchester City performance, Pep Guardiola must devise a strategy to cover his team's weaknesses in the last two matches. Returning to winning ways is the only way Manchester City can maintain competition with Arsenal. The domestic league journey has not yet reached the middle of the season, there are still many matches to be played and anything can still happen during that duration.

No matter how strong Manchester City is, it certainly has its weaknesses, and if these weaknesses are left open, Arsenal certainly won't want to waste this opportunity. Pep Guardiola may have been careless in thinking they could beat Arsenal like last season. Meanwhile, the fact is that Arteta has an ambitious soul who doesn't want past mistakes to repeat themselves. Try your best to improve the team and learn Manchester City's weaknesses.

6 points have passed and will be an important note while Kevin De Bruyne is still recovering from injury. The Premier League is very tight so you feel safe just because you are the defending champion doesn't mean it will continue. Other clubs are also developing quite rapidly, especially Arsenal, which incidentally has talented players who will make it easier for Arteta to design strategies.

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October 12, 2023, 11:06:19 AM
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Manchester United have only Onana and Altay as the goalkeepers they could make use of. They really don't have any chance other than trying both of them and giving more chances to the one who performs better. Therefore I hope to see Altay being given some chances as well. I mean Onana is still playing the same.

While he is performing poorly I don't think it is logical to be stubborn about continuing to use him in every game. Altay has been a promising goalkeeper so far as well. In this situation I believe he deserves a chance. Let's say he played worse than Onana can take the shirt back from him.
Yes they should do that, should give their second goalkeeper more chances after Onana's poor form so far. Now the options are not many for them and they must have a firm stance on this. Erik Ten Hag has to do something to turn them around, because I haven't seen anything special from Manchester United so far.
The fact that they let David de Gea leave leaves them with little choice. But it's not good to regret everything, because what they should be thinking about is how they can get up, not necessarily quickly, but slowly but surely.

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October 12, 2023, 11:47:29 AM
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Next week Liverpool will host Everton at Anfield stadium. I am completely sure that Liverpool will win this match because so far Liverpool have performed quite well in every match and have only lost 1x out of 8 matches against Tottenham. I am sure Liverpool will not waste their time getting full points. in this match.


Everton are a strong team but not this season. They performed very badly with only 2 wins. Although for me the big team with the worst performance this season is Chelsea. I'm sure Liverpool will get an easy win this time. And betting on Liverpool is safer to secure your bet. It's a shame that I couldn't watch the Merseyside Derby which was quite as intense as several seasons ago.

It's a strong team but i don't know what's wrong with it since previous seasons. Everton's performance was so average since a few years ago. There was a lot of change happen with the club and this makes me feel that if everton is likely to compete at the bottom.
Expect better result from everton but it seems like that the team is now struggling in winning the game and take three points. Everton is too consistent and so many changes buried caused by a few mistakes.
Everton needs to improve its performance. I saw that if there was no a significant improvement is happening with everton. It's likely everton is still competing to leave from the relegation zone.
The club needs to make a creative gameplay. Everton needs to solve so many problems especially in the desync of its players. It will help everton to perform even better compared with the previous games.
The club needs to stay at EPL.

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October 12, 2023, 11:52:04 AM
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Manchester United have only Onana and Altay as the goalkeepers they could make use of. They really don't have any chance other than trying both of them and giving more chances to the one who performs better. Therefore I hope to see Altay being given some chances as well. I mean Onana is still playing the same.

While he is performing poorly I don't think it is logical to be stubborn about continuing to use him in every game. Altay has been a promising goalkeeper so far as well. In this situation I believe he deserves a chance. Let's say he played worse than Onana can take the shirt back from him.
Yes they should do that, should give their second goalkeeper more chances after Onana's poor form so far. Now the options are not many for them and they must have a firm stance on this. Erik Ten Hag has to do something to turn them around, because I haven't seen anything special from Manchester United so far.
The fact that they let David de Gea leave leaves them with little choice. But it's not good to regret everything, because what they should be thinking about is how they can get up, not necessarily quickly, but slowly but surely.
Onana should have been the solution after Manchester United management kicked out David De Gea, the fact that is currently happening is that Onana doesn't seem to have finished his adaptation period in The Red Devils squad. The series of injuries suffered by most of United defensive players increased the number of goals conceded by Onana, in the end his move from Inter Milan did not seem like the right solution. Even though Onana is neither bad nor very good, he is the player who gets the most criticism, if United performance does not experience a steady improvement in the future, it will be difficult for Onana to avoid criticism from fans.

On the other hand, Ten Hag will still trust Onana as the main goalkeeper, both in the English Premier League and the European Champions League. In the midst of the ups and downs in United performance, it would be too risky for Ten Hag to play Altay as a starter.

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October 12, 2023, 12:00:55 PM
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Onana should have been the solution after Manchester United management kicked out David De Gea, the fact that is currently happening is that Onana doesn't seem to have finished his adaptation period in The Red Devils squad. The series of injuries suffered by most of United defensive players increased the number of goals conceded by Onana, in the end his move from Inter Milan did not seem like the right solution. Even though Onana is neither bad nor very good, he is the player who gets the most criticism, if United's performance does not experience a steady improvement in the future, it will be difficult for Onana to avoid criticism from fans.

With that defense and midfield that Manchester United has, any goalkeeper will concede a lot of goals. The defending is poor.
Manchester United concede too many shots on target. As a team you shouldn't let your opponent have that many shots, talk more about putting them on target.
The United fanbase all blamed Onana for the Galatasaray loss but that loss was not on Onana, it was due to poor defending.

The midfield doesn't keep hold of the ball much and they don't create enough chances, and the chances they create can't be finished by the attack. So you see that the whole team is not working.
United have not comfortably dominated any game, and that's a problem for the kind of football Ten Hag is trying to play. If they don't start dominating games they'll not be able to win games.

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October 12, 2023, 12:03:11 PM
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Manchester city are just lacking the present of de bruyne because he is an exceptional midfielder and he just makes the difference in the team and his presence makes the whole team a totally different team and Manchester city I think it's just suffering from the de bruyne effect. But the loss against arsenal is actually exceptional because this gunners team have really stepped up their game and if they can continue like this they would definitely make a difference in the title decided.
Kevin De Bruyne's absence was not the cause of Manchester City's defeat because a narrow defeat like that can be experienced by any team when the match is almost over and if you remember last season they also lost to Liverpool with the same score as when they lost to Arsenal, so in my opinion this is really wasn't because of Kevin De Bruyne's absence but they were a little careless and Arsenal took advantage of that.
This defeat looks painful because it happened to their strong competitor and is a consecutive defeat this season, but that does not mean they are out of the competition from the title race because anything is still possible in the next matches, and Arsenal should not be careless like what happened last season so they failed to win champion title.

We can't rule out Rodri effect from Arsenal and Manchester City, but he is still suffering from the red card he had in their round 6 match they played with Nottingham Forest and sadly, he will not be available in their next match in the round 9 against Brighton, but maybe Manchester will be able to turn around things and still maintain their normal winning streak. If Rodri were to be around, Martineli will not get that assistance from Havertz because he will be there.

De Bruyne absence can't be rule out as well, if the guy was available, Manchester City will not go home without a goal, Arsenal will concede in any form. Haaland was on the match but I didn't see him, he couldn't just process chances despite Alvarez and Foden efforts in that match.

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October 12, 2023, 12:07:05 PM
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Onana should have been the solution after Manchester United management kicked out David De Gea, the fact that is currently happening is that Onana doesn't seem to have finished his adaptation period in The Red Devils squad. The series of injuries suffered by most of United defensive players increased the number of goals conceded by Onana, in the end his move from Inter Milan did not seem like the right solution. Even though Onana is neither bad nor very good, he is the player who gets the most criticism, if United performance does not experience a steady improvement in the future, it will be difficult for Onana to avoid criticism from fans.

On the other hand, Ten Hag will still trust Onana as the main goalkeeper, both in the English Premier League and the European Champions League. In the midst of the ups and downs in United performance, it would be too risky for Ten Hag to play Altay as a starter.
Well the coach might be right if he feels De gea wasn't the solution to his gameplay well that's his problem, but bringing in Onana to replace De gea is what I'm still confused about, because I've not really been impressed by Onana since his arrival, well there's no doubt that he did better at Intermilan and has worked with Ten Hag at Ajax but he needs to gather pace in recovering his form cause, the fans are very impatient and are already calling him out and sion both the manager and board would be thinking of replacing him.

 Well based on the price they got him for and the potential he has I think they would consider dropping him yet, Ten Hag believes in him and would give him more time to prove himself however I still insist Erik Ten Hag should consider giving Altay Bayindir a chance to prove himself, maybe in the Caraboa Cup  or Fa Cup competitions.

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October 12, 2023, 12:10:50 PM
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The mistake at MU has shifted from midfielder Harry Maguire to goalkeeper Andre Onana this season.
You have a point because one of the major issues with Manchester United is there midfielder and goalkeeper, although in times Manchester United goal goalkeeper, De Gea was just the goalkeeper that really understand the actual pattern of Manchester United I don't no why they decided to sold him when there problem was not from the goalkeeper but I believe they now understand how important De Gea was to the club.

and even there current goalkeeper Onana is not helping Manchester United at all, but considering his performance on AC Milan I was even thinking his performance on Manchester United will be same as when he was at AC Milan but it was quite the opposite, but however if Manchester United should work on there midfielder there could be more chances of getting back to there former performance.

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October 12, 2023, 12:28:12 PM
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Next week Liverpool will host Everton at Anfield stadium. I am completely sure that Liverpool will win this match because so far Liverpool have performed quite well in every match and have only lost 1x out of 8 matches against Tottenham. I am sure Liverpool will not waste their time getting full points. in this match.
If you look at the Head to Head records Liverpool have a fairly high chance of winning (71%) so I'm pretty sure that Liverpool will win in this match, Everton are not in good shape this season and only got 7 points and are ranked 16th so it's very likely Everton is not a tough enough opponent for Liverpool.

If Liverpool can display what they displayed in those 7 matches that made them to secured a good position in the premier league table, show that they will definitely achieve goals that will make them to defeat Everton to embrace three points. Based on what is happening to some strong teams in some matches, made many fans to believe that Liverpool and Arsenal will go far in this season which is giving Liverpool players more confident to do everything possible to maintain this winning attitude to top the premier league table. Since Everton are still experiencing challenges in the area of defense, it will give Liverpool strikers to create more opportunities to score goals that will help the team to achieve victory at the end of the match.


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October 12, 2023, 12:35:40 PM
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With statistics like that, his role has been almost irreplaceable since he was at Manchester City, but I don't think The Citizen will continue to depend on him forever because we know that KDB will also get older like other players. Pep Guardiola must really look for a replacement that is commensurate with KDB and they can start doing that in the transfer market next season. For this season, KDB can still contribute fully and it's just a matter of waiting for him to recover from his injury. More than that, I think Manchester City's future performance will still be questioned because they will not be strengthened by KDB until the middle of the season.
Pep Guardiola loves KDB and regarded as his favorite player, he grown to good form under the guidance of Pep Guardiola, and reached his peak, he never declined in his performance. Manchester City missed, leading to them having a poor results this season. There's absolutely no Manchester City player that would be able to filled in the shoes of Kelvin De Bruyne because he's an extraordinary player that knows the exact perfect time to make crucial passes and also incredible moments to apply a stunning shots towards his opponents on the pitch. It's quite unfortunate that he's ruled out for months, Pep Guardiola will face reality and scout his potential replacement in January.
Yes, I know about that, but how long will Manchester City depend on KDB? Pep Guardiola, as fully responsible for the results achieved by Manchester City, is questionable and as a genius coach, I feel that he also doesn't know what to do at this time. Apart from all that, the figure of KDB is very important for Manchester City and in the Manchester City squad I don't think anyone can replace his role. Pep Guardiola must try to look for other options from now on because they certainly don't want that after the middle of the season ends, Manchester City still can't top the standings and that will definitely add to the burden he is experiencing.

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October 12, 2023, 12:37:30 PM
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The mistake at MU has shifted from midfielder Harry Maguire to goalkeeper Andre Onana this season.
You have a point because one of the major issues with Manchester United is there midfielder and goalkeeper, although in times Manchester United goal goalkeeper, De Gea was just the goalkeeper that really understand the actual pattern of Manchester United I don't no why they decided to sold him when there problem was not from the goalkeeper but I believe they now understand how important De Gea was to the club.

and even there current goalkeeper Onana is not helping Manchester United at all, but considering his performance on AC Milan I was even thinking his performance on Manchester United will be same as when he was at AC Milan but it was quite the opposite, but however if Manchester United should work on there midfielder there could be more chances of getting back to there former performance.
When he was at Ajax and Inter Milan, we all saw the quality of Andre Onana. Yes, he is a good goalkeeper. But somehow when he moved to Man Utd we could see that Onana seemed to have lost his ability as a good goalkeeper. The mentality of a world-class goalkeeper like Onana should be that he can maintain his performance wherever he is.

But now I'm starting to think that maybe the real problem is Man Utd's back line itself. Last season, De Gea was also considered to have experienced a drastic decline. And this right could be that the problem is not with De Gea but with Man Utd's back line itself. So the goalkeeper who cannot save the goal is then blamed.

I feel that Man Utd really have to make big changes next season if they don't manage to get good results this season.

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October 12, 2023, 12:38:14 PM
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On the other hand, Ten Hag will still trust Onana as the main goalkeeper, both in the English Premier League and the European Champions League. In the midst of the ups and downs in United performance, it would be too risky for Ten Hag to play Altay as a starter.
Indeed, there is no other better choice than Onana, so Ten Hag must continue to trust Onana.
Currently, Onana's self-confidence is very bad and he needs more matches to prove his quality.
But actually, Onana is a goalkeeper of quite good quality as he showed last season with Inter Milan, it's just that currently the Man United team is in decline so Onana is one of the players who is always in the corner so gradually the decreasing confidence is followed. with performance too.

No matter how strong Manchester City is, it certainly has its weaknesses, and if these weaknesses are left open, Arsenal certainly won't want to waste this opportunity. Pep Guardiola may have been careless in thinking they could beat Arsenal like last season. Meanwhile, the fact is that Arteta has an ambitious soul who doesn't want past mistakes to repeat themselves. Try your best to improve the team and learn Manchester City's weaknesses.

6 points have passed and will be an important note while Kevin De Bruyne is still recovering from injury. The Premier League is very tight so you feel safe just because you are the defending champion doesn't mean it will continue. Other clubs are also developing quite rapidly, especially Arsenal, which incidentally has talented players who will make it easier for Arteta to design strategies.
All of this is inseparable from several Manchester City players who suffered injuries.
However, we can't just look at it from Manchester City's side, but it can't be denied that other Premier League teams that are starting to develop this season are able to compete with Manchester City, while Manchester City hasn't changed much from last season, so it's only natural that things like that This happened and in my opinion it would be very good for there to be fierce competition in the race for the Premier League title this season.

Everton are a strong team but not this season. They performed very badly with only 2 wins. Although for me the big team with the worst performance this season is Chelsea. I'm sure Liverpool will get an easy win this time. And betting on Liverpool is safer to secure your bet. It's a shame that I couldn't watch the Merseyside Derby which was quite as intense as several seasons ago.
Everton have been in decline for the past 2 seasons and even 2 seasons in a row they have survived relegation, but there have been no significant changes made by this team to get up.
Meanwhile, Chelsea is a team that has improved a lot, indeed they were really down at the start of this season, but with the squad that this team has, I think they should not be underestimated.
And Liverpool is a team that is ready to compete for the title this season, Liverpool is back (not like last season anymore)

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October 12, 2023, 12:51:51 PM
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When he was at Ajax and Inter Milan, we all saw the quality of Andre Onana. Yes, he is a good goalkeeper. But somehow when he moved to Man Utd we could see that Onana seemed to have lost his ability as a good goalkeeper. The mentality of a world-class goalkeeper like Onana should be that he can maintain his performance wherever he is.
Onana is a good goalkeeper and I don't deny this fact because I will fail to do this. It's true to say Onana got more attention from big clubs after he had an amazing adventure with Inter Milan in the last season, went to a final match and lost minimally against Manchester City with a striker from Rodri. However, we must consider another fact that one excellent season is not enough to make Onana as a world class goalkeeper. He must prove more and after a transfer to Manchester United and Premier League, we already are able to assess his quality better.

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But now I'm starting to think that maybe the real problem is Man Utd's back line itself. Last season, De Gea was also considered to have experienced a drastic decline. And this right could be that the problem is not with De Gea but with Man Utd's back line itself. So the goalkeeper who cannot save the goal is then blamed.
Manchester United have many problems especially in their defense and they can not ask Onana to fix all defensive holes. They need better defenders as well as better whole system too. So far Ten Hag and Manchester United have yet built up a good system with balance between attacking and defense.

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October 12, 2023, 12:56:45 PM
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With statistics like that, his role has been almost irreplaceable since he was at Manchester City, but I don't think The Citizen will continue to depend on him forever because we know that KDB will also get older like other players. Pep Guardiola must really look for a replacement that is commensurate with KDB and they can start doing that in the transfer market next season. For this season, KDB can still contribute fully and it's just a matter of waiting for him to recover from his injury. More than that, I think Manchester City's future performance will still be questioned because they will not be strengthened by KDB until the middle of the season.
Pep Guardiola loves KDB and regarded as his favorite player, he grown to good form under the guidance of Pep Guardiola, and reached his peak, he never declined in his performance. Manchester City missed, leading to them having a poor results this season. There's absolutely no Manchester City player that would be able to filled in the shoes of Kelvin De Bruyne because he's an extraordinary player that knows the exact perfect time to make crucial passes and also incredible moments to apply a stunning shots towards his opponents on the pitch. It's quite unfortunate that he's ruled out for months, Pep Guardiola will face reality and scout his potential replacement in January.
Yes, I know about that, but how long will Manchester City depend on KDB? Pep Guardiola, as fully responsible for the results achieved by Manchester City, is questionable and as a genius coach, I feel that he also doesn't know what to do at this time. Apart from all that, the figure of KDB is very important for Manchester City and in the Manchester City squad I don't think anyone can replace his role. Pep Guardiola must try to look for other options from now on because they certainly don't want that after the middle of the season ends, Manchester City still can't top the standings and that will definitely add to the burden he is experiencing.
Kevin De Bruyne's injury is a significant setback and a great loss for Manchester City. His absence is clearly affecting the team's performance. De Bruyne possesses unique qualities that are hard to replace. Even though Manchester City has talented players and alternatives, finding a suitable replacement for De Bruyne's role is a challenging task for the manager. I'm now wonder who will take on the responsibility of creating transitions from the midfield with those creative passes and touches. His injury is truly disappointing, and it has left Manchester City's fans eager to see who will step up as their savior.

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October 12, 2023, 12:57:37 PM
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When he was at Ajax and Inter Milan, we all saw the quality of Andre Onana. Yes, he is a good goalkeeper. But somehow when he moved to Man Utd we could see that Onana seemed to have lost his ability as a good goalkeeper. The mentality of a world-class goalkeeper like Onana should be that he can maintain his performance wherever he is.
Onana is a good goalkeeper and I don't deny this fact because I will fail to do this. It's true to say Onana got more attention from big clubs after he had an amazing adventure with Inter Milan in the last season, went to a final match and lost minimally against Manchester City with a striker from Rodri. However, we must consider another fact that one excellent season is not enough to make Onana as a world class goalkeeper. He must prove more and after a transfer to Manchester United and Premier League, we already are able to assess his quality better.

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But now I'm starting to think that maybe the real problem is Man Utd's back line itself. Last season, De Gea was also considered to have experienced a drastic decline. And this right could be that the problem is not with De Gea but with Man Utd's back line itself. So the goalkeeper who cannot save the goal is then blamed.
Manchester United have many problems especially in their defense and they can not ask Onana to fix all defensive holes. They need better defenders as well as better whole system too. So far Ten Hag and Manchester United have yet built up a good system with balance between attacking and defense.
Manchester United team is 10th in the points table. The team is not performing very well. It is important for Manchester United to stay inside the 5th place in the points table so that the team can create a chance to achieve something good.

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October 12, 2023, 01:05:48 PM
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If Liverpool can display what they displayed in those 7 matches that made them to secured a good position in the premier league table, show that they will definitely achieve goals that will make them to defeat Everton to embrace three points. Based on what is happening to some strong teams in some matches, made many fans to believe that Liverpool and Arsenal will go far in this season which is giving Liverpool players more confident to do everything possible to maintain this winning attitude to top the premier league table. Since Everton are still experiencing challenges in the area of defense, it will give Liverpool strikers to create more opportunities to score goals that will help the team to achieve victory at the end of the match.


English Premier League 2023/2024 campaign is a tough one, we have decided the teams that will reach crucial positions this season, we have Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool are in their prime, having good results in games. However it's not yet mid-season, so there might be changes on the lists in due time. I'm concerned with the Reds, they're ranked 4th on EPL table with outstanding results in League games. Jurgen Klopp having struggles in enchancing his squad. Liverpool hosts Everton at Anfield after international break, it would be interesting to watch both sides perform their very best.

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October 12, 2023, 01:09:27 PM
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De Bruyne absence can't be rule out as well, if the guy was available, Manchester City will not go home without a goal, Arsenal will concede in any form. Haaland was on the match but I didn't see him, he couldn't just process chances despite Alvarez and Foden efforts in that match.

Haaland has always never been able to score goals against clubs that are evenly matched with City, except against bottom-class clubs or those who are not favorites, he has always been a player who can always score goals, but against Arsenal it seems that Haaland didn't play too well there without KDB and Also Rodri of course, Manchester City really don't play like usual where they have always played well so far and finally the defeat against Arsenal yesterday became a consecutive defeat, experiencing two defeats at once.

I think Guardiola must be able to find another player who might be able to replace Rodri or KDB when he is absent from injury or other things so that he can make Manchester City's attack power sharp again, but on the one hand, Manchester City's defeat also makes the competition at the top of the standings more interesting than before. It's okay to give in to something interesting

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