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December 06, 2023, 11:51:06 AM
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The league has had its 15th match and this means it is almost midway through the season because in just few weeks we will see the transfer window also open to enable each team to carry out player buying and selling activities with the aim of strengthening the team towards the top in the title race in each League.
For the time being, Arsenal is still leading with 36 points and is followed by Liverpool with 31 points and then Manchester City with 30 points.

But in this 15th match I am interested in two matches, namely between Liverpool vs Sheff Utd and Chelsea vs Manchester United.

In the Liverpool match, it is clear that they will get full points for free in this match because Sheff Utd is the weakest team and occupies the bottom position so that in this match Liverpool can get closer to the points that Arsenal got.
As for Chelsea and Manchester United, they are two giants who are sleeping or experiencing bad conditions this season and this match made me remember how in the past they dominated the Premier League and became two giants with the nickname eternal rivals.
But now everything has changed and it is not like before where Chelsea and Manchester United made many people talk about them with their respective strengths.

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December 06, 2023, 11:58:58 AM
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Another day, another clutch after previously Liverpool also won with the same score against Fulham and now it was Arsenal's turn to do it when they played the match away to Luton headquarters. I didn't expect the hosts to provide such frontal resistance to the top of the EPL standings and it was fortunate that Arsenal had Declan Rice who was the savior of victory for the Gunners in yesterday's match. Arsenal almost played a draw if Declan Rice didn't save them with the goal he scored in added time and it looks like they have to improve their defense in the next match.

It looks like Arsenal's defense is very weak and goalkeeper David Raya also performed poorly here so he failed to make a save. This narrow victory is also not good for Arsenal because their opponents are a weak team in the relegation zone and they should be able to win with a difference of 2 goals or more. Well, at least Arsenal now leads the standings with a difference of 5 points from Manchester City and this will be another battle for these two teams.

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December 06, 2023, 12:03:41 PM
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Luton knew how to reduce arsenal's attack. The club has been focusing to block the arsenal wingers and it was working but arsenal is having better quality compared to the luton. Im still applausing luton for its hard work in the match against arsenal.
That's quite amazing to see luton was scoring three goals against arsenal. Luton is doing some improvements on its club. Im very glad to see that how luton is slowly developing its club to perform even better than before.
Arsenal did their attacks well in the match and they even could make that match more easily for themselves but their defense made it worse for them. They let Luton scored three goals too easily and Arsenal actually can avoid three conceded goals in the match.

At the end, at very last seconds, they were rescued by Declan Rice with his headshot and with three points from Luton, Arsenal will continue to stay at the first position. Even getting three points, Arsenal will not have Arteta in the next match and they even have to analyze weakness in their defense system and improve it. Premier League will come to a very tough weeks in late of December and early of January that will be like a marathon. Arsenal must try to get good results in that period and continue to race with Manchester City and Liverpool.

They did all they could but the arsenal team were far too strong and resilient for them to resist. Luton had a chance of grabbing a point at least in that match but blew it all up due to lack of concentration at the last minute, they obviously lost focus and let arsenal take all three point home with Declan Rice goal despite taking the lead at some part of the game in the second half, it shows that arsenal were better prepared than Luton and that's why the result went asernal's ways.

Tough luck for Luton; they deserved a point from this match. Luton fans probably wish if Luton could have held on for a few more seconds. Lack of concentration cost them, while Arsenal managed to steal the match in the end. I absolutely love this team! The never-die attitude in the boys is fantastic, and they secured superb 3 points. Declan Rice has made a great comeback for Arsenal this season, scoring an incredible match-winner for them.

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December 06, 2023, 12:09:11 PM
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Arsenal did their attacks well in the match and they even could make that match more easily for themselves but their defense made it worse for them. They let Luton scored three goals too easily and Arsenal actually can avoid three conceded goals in the match.

At the end, at very last seconds, they were rescued by Declan Rice with his headshot and with three points from Luton, Arsenal will continue to stay at the first position. Even getting three points, Arsenal will not have Arteta in the next match and they even have to analyze weakness in their defense system and improve it. Premier League will come to a very tough weeks in late of December and early of January that will be like a marathon. Arsenal must try to get good results in that period and continue to race with Manchester City and Liverpool.

They did all they could but the arsenal team were far too strong and resilient for them to resist. Luton had a chance of grabbing a point at least in that match but blew it all up due to lack of concentration at the last minute, they obviously lost focus and let arsenal take all three point home with Declan Rice goal despite taking the lead at some part of the game in the second half, it shows that arsenal were better prepared than Luton and that's why the result went asernal's ways.

Tough luck for Luton; they deserved a point from this match. Luton fans probably wish if Luton could have held on for a few more seconds. Lack of concentration cost them, while Arsenal managed to steal the match in the end. I absolutely love this team! The never-die attitude in the boys is fantastic, and they secured superb 3 points. Declan Rice has made a great comeback for Arsenal this season, scoring an incredible match-winner for them.

First of all, I was really surprised to see how many goals were scored in this match. Secondly, I was also surprised to see that Arsenal actually ended up conceding three goals in this match. And at the very end, when I thought the match was going to end in a draw, Arsenal actually ended up winning the match by scoring at the very last moment. I am really happy for Arsenal that they are able to stay at the first position of the table.

I actually agree with you that Arsenal will have to get good results. But I will say that Arsenal will have to get good results throughout the whole season, not in a certain period of time. And especially at the end of the season.

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December 06, 2023, 12:10:00 PM
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Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.
The Hatters proves to everyone, atleast Kenilworth Road stadium is definitely a home for defensive game and thrilled victories. The home was this close to equalizing points with Arsenal but couldn't hold Declan Rice from netting an important goal. Luton Town was completely on different level when it comes to playing Arsenal, everyone got stunt by the incredible performance of Gunners. 4 shots on targets, really? Perhapes Gunners had numerous attempts and they couldn't utilized most of their chances. You spotted an appropriate question that every Arsenal fans should be concern about.
Arsenal have been having thrilling performances since last season and what happens with Arsenal performance is that people and fans will be happy with them but then people are not that confident in Arsenal to be able to fight Guardiola and the Citizens for the trophy. Arsenal could perform wonderfully well but towards the end of the season they will flop their whole beautiful performance. Liverpool will give a better fight.

Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.
The problem of defence and goal keeping is not only for Arsenal if you are to measure it by the number of goals that they concede. Manchester City is conceding high number of goals and likewise Liverpool. It is better to say that English strikers are better now.

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December 06, 2023, 12:14:33 PM
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Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.

That's something Arteta should be worried about especially the goalkeeper, Raya isn't suppose to be in that starting XI. This guy has proven to Arteta that he can't be the missing piece in that goalkeeping department but the manager isn't seeing it at all, I'd prefer to have Ramsdale instead of Raya.
Keeping Ramsdale on the bench is making him look rusty and you'd agree with me that he is already. Let's forget about the Liverpool and Manchester City trying to take over that number spot, to me is a 50/50 thing to win the league, City are even having a hard time to balance that winning ways and Liverpool is not too steady in winning games same as Arsenal so I'd believe that Arteta will amend the problem in that team especially that goalkeeping department. To me Liverpool and Man City are also have issues on various departments in their squad.

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December 06, 2023, 12:18:24 PM
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Arsenal did their attacks well in the match and they even could make that match more easily for themselves but their defense made it worse for them. They let Luton scored three goals too easily and Arsenal actually can avoid three conceded goals in the match.

At the end, at very last seconds, they were rescued by Declan Rice with his headshot and with three points from Luton, Arsenal will continue to stay at the first position. Even getting three points, Arsenal will not have Arteta in the next match and they even have to analyze weakness in their defense system and improve it. Premier League will come to a very tough weeks in late of December and early of January that will be like a marathon. Arsenal must try to get good results in that period and continue to race with Manchester City and Liverpool.
Surprisingly, Luton was able to provide tight resistance and scored 3 goals, making Arsenal defense very vulnerable. This result is clearly like defeat disguised as victory. Arsenal did win 3 points but gave Luton 3 goals and almost drew without DeclanRice additional goal. So for me Arteta must be worried that this result will be taken for granted by the Luton players whose strengths compared to the Arsenal squad are very different. Congratulations to the Luton players, even though they lost, they managed to penetrate the Gunner defense because in the Premier League competition this season they were unable to score 3 goals against Arsenal. Man City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Man United and Tottenham cannot do that this season.

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December 06, 2023, 12:19:54 PM
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Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.
Goalkeeper might be the problem behind Gunners conceding tremendous goals that ought to be questionable by the coach and the supporters, it's weigh not a representable goals to be angry about, clear out that the goalkeeper would have stretch and made some brilliant saves but unfortunately he could not and they have to deal with all these drama from average club. Arsenal did their best to win the game, when everyone thought of the scored to end final 3-3 draw but out of nowhere, we watch the crucial header from Declan Rice to give his team the lead injury time. Afterall the overhyped midfielder does the incredible stuff by delivering his club when everyone have lost faith.

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December 06, 2023, 12:27:43 PM
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Raya has been also become the main attention right now caused by his mistake during the game but rice was able saving his face.
he shall be thankful to the rice caused by this guy is a hidden weapon owned by arsenal. I remember that rice was also helping arsenal to win against city during the injury time as well.
This guy is underrated but sometimes he was playing so badly too. Arsenal is not yet stable as a team. It was almost losing against luton.
For me, I've still not understood why Arteta keeps starting Raya instead of Ramsdale. If it's by comparison, the Brentford loanee is still yet to impress me and I don't see what skills he possesses other than causing Arsenal to concede goals. Ramsdale is not without his fair share of mistakes but Raya? He's the reason I usually watch their games with fingers crossed because shit usually happens when he's manning the sticks.
 Yeah, Arsenal managed to escape defeat to a small club trying to stay above relegation but for how long will they be escaping by a hair's breath? No wonder pundits keep saying they don't see Arsenal as a team viable for the title and I quite agree with them because the Gunners have this hot and cold attitude. Good thing they won last night's game tho but I feel they should use it as a reminder that there are more eyes interested in getting a glimpse at the trophy too.

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December 06, 2023, 12:29:26 PM
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Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.
Goalkeeper might be the problem behind Gunners conceding tremendous goals that ought to be questionable by the coach and the supporters, it's weigh not a representable goals to be angry about, clear out that the goalkeeper would have stretch and made some brilliant saves but unfortunately he could not and they have to deal with all these drama from average club. Arsenal did their best to win the game, when everyone thought of the scored to end final 3-3 draw but out of nowhere, we watch the crucial header from Declan Rice to give his team the lead injury time. Afterall the overhyped midfielder does the incredible stuff by delivering his club when everyone have lost faith.
Arsenal won the match against Luton, surely many people had predicted it. but Arsenal conceded 3 goals in that match, I don't think Arsenal's defense was that bad compared to Luton's attackers.
imagine 4 shots on target and 3 of them are goals. how effective they are in the match. I know it happened because of Arsenal's loose play and it created some gaps in the defense that Luton could exploit. but every time they attack, it's a goal.
I'm sure Arteta has some work to do after that match.

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December 06, 2023, 12:51:45 PM
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There is no easy match, even Arsenal themselves had to fight tooth and nail to beat Luton Town. Arsenal almost lost maximum points if the referee blew the whistle exactly in the sixth minute of injury time, but that didn't happen because Arsenal took advantage of the last seconds to build an attack and they managed to score a goal in just over a minute of injury time.

Not only Arsenal, all other teams are also struggling to win the match because each team needs points. Liverpool, Manchester City, Tottenham, Aston Villa, Chelsea and Manchester United are the same, so there is no exception to that. That is why every manager must be careful in rotating his players in each match, clearly this will affect the team's performance and game.

Arsenal, like last season, is again at the top of the table and continues to increase its advantage, Arteta is consistent and this deserves respect, if they manage to correctly calculate their strength this season, I hope they will be able to compete until the very end.

City will play a tough match against Aston Villa at Villa Park today and their record at home has been impressive, having won every home game in the Premier League this season. Of course, this does not mean that they will definitely beat City today, but it definitely means that it will be a very difficult match for City today and perhaps they can lose points again today.
The matches to be played today looks like the teams would try to secure as much goals as possible. Am more interested in Manchester city and that of Chelsea vs Manchester United.
This will be a very good time for Manchester city to want to capitalize on their weaker opponents, Aston Villa and score as much goals, let's say above 3.5margin for betting, just to rival the GD of Arsenal on top of  the EPL table.

Arteta should try to put more pressure on the strikers and good goal scorers in the team, to increase the goal tally as well as remain consistent in winning matches and staying on top with more points than just 3 point difference.

@BITCOIN4X  Yes, I absolutely agree that there is no easy match in the English Premier League. Especially when you are trying to win the Premier League title. Then there is definitely no easy matches. we have seen a lot of team lose easy matches, thinking that they are easy matches, if you know what I mean. And with every club currently there is a certain situation that is very interesting.  They want to play their best players in the match. But that means risking them getting injured.  And if they actually rotate players a little too much, they end up dropping points or losing.

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December 06, 2023, 12:53:21 PM
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Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.
Goalkeeper might be the problem behind Gunners conceding tremendous goals that ought to be questionable by the coach and the supporters, it's weigh not a representable goals to be angry about, clear out that the goalkeeper would have stretch and made some brilliant saves but unfortunately he could not and they have to deal with all these drama from average club. Arsenal did their best to win the game, when everyone thought of the scored to end final 3-3 draw but out of nowhere, we watch the crucial header from Declan Rice to give his team the lead injury time. Afterall the overhyped midfielder does the incredible stuff by delivering his club when everyone have lost faith.
well it has to be said that Raya did make a lot of mistakes and if it wasn't for Harets and Rice, Arsenal would have lost, but at the end Arsenal were lucky.
I think that after such a match Ramsdale has a chance to return to the core and prove that he can play not worse than Raya.

But I agree that the goalkeeping position is one of Arsenal's weakest so far and if they really want to become champions, they need a top goalkeeper.

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December 06, 2023, 01:04:18 PM
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Haha… Today is going to be really hot so many matches to be played, we anticipate a better results from them.

Brighton VS Bretford
Crystal palace VS Bournemouth
Fulham VS Nottingham
Sheffield Utd VS Liverpool
Aston villa VS Mancity
Man Utd VS Chelsea

I am sure so many predictions are flooding our minds right now and many has already keep their money ready to gamble on this games, so many will get good cash out and some will loose their funds as the result might turn out as they never expected.

I would love to hear our take on this base on my own  prediction without being sentimental, I would go like this :

Brighton VS Bretford - Home
Crystal palace VS Bournemouth - Over 1.5
Fulham VS Nottingham - Home
Sheffield Utd VS Liverpool - Away
Aston villa VS Mancity - Away
Man Utd VS Chelsea - Away or Draw

This is base on me, you all can go with your own opinions and feel free to share with us
Your prediction is quite impressive because you almost predicted the games based on how there performance is but sometimes the clubs we may think will win may lose the match at the end because the match between Brighton and Brentford is surely gonna be a tough match to predict because there strength is almost equal so however over 1.5 can also be good on that match.

But however I think Manchester United and Chelsea match is actually going to be the most interesting match today because right from history of football the match between Manchester United and Chelsea is not always easy for the both team because they always have the same performance.

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December 06, 2023, 01:12:08 PM
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well it has to be said that Raya did make a lot of mistakes and if it wasn't for Harets and Rice, Arsenal would have lost, but at the end Arsenal were lucky.
I think that after such a match Ramsdale has a chance to return to the core and prove that he can play not worse than Raya.

But I agree that the goalkeeping position is one of Arsenal's weakest so far and if they really want to become champions, they need a top goalkeeper.
It doesn't even make sense at all why Arteta want to sign a new goalkeeper when Ramsdale wasn't making a big mistake in the last season, Arsenal turns worse when they having Raya become a goalkeeper.

Arteta need to sell Raya ASAP before his market price went down, moreover Manchester United is currently need a new goalkeeper.

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December 06, 2023, 01:13:10 PM
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Arsenal's goalkeeper and defense might be the reason why Arsenal will lose the Premier League trophy to Manchester City or Liverpool because Luton Town had only 4 shots on goal, and they were able to score three goals against Arsenal last night.
Goalkeeper might be the problem behind Gunners conceding tremendous goals that ought to be questionable by the coach and the supporters, it's weigh not a representable goals to be angry about, clear out that the goalkeeper would have stretch and made some brilliant saves but unfortunately he could not and they have to deal with all these drama from average club. Arsenal did their best to win the game, when everyone thought of the scored to end final 3-3 draw but out of nowhere, we watch the crucial header from Declan Rice to give his team the lead injury time. Afterall the overhyped midfielder does the incredible stuff by delivering his club when everyone have lost faith.
I don't even know whether replace ramsdale with raya has become the correct decision from arteta. As you can see that raya's performance is still far from good. Ramsdale was sometime makes a mistake, but he was not able i think that this can't become the right reason to judge his performance. Raya is only coming to the arsenal but we have not yet seen his overall performance in arsenal. I hope he will meet arteta's expectation but who knows.
We may be encountering the same case like onana and de gea in manchester united. I think that people are having very big expectation for raya but he can also bottle it too.
Arteta's expectation was too big for raya but he may be disappointed once he will be seeing his performance will be declining so hard. Will arteta sign another goal keeper if raya's performance will not be so good?

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December 06, 2023, 01:24:44 PM
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well it has to be said that Raya did make a lot of mistakes and if it wasn't for Harets and Rice, Arsenal would have lost, but at the end Arsenal were lucky.
I think that after such a match Ramsdale has a chance to return to the core and prove that he can play not worse than Raya.

But I agree that the goalkeeping position is one of Arsenal's weakest so far and if they really want to become champions, they need a top goalkeeper.
It doesn't even make sense at all why Arteta want to sign a new goalkeeper when Ramsdale wasn't making a big mistake in the last season, Arsenal turns worse when they having Raya become a goalkeeper.

Arteta need to sell Raya ASAP before his market price went down, moreover Manchester United is currently need a new goalkeeper.

If Arsenal's weakness has been proven to be in the goalkeeper, then surely other teams will also realize that factor. So, if you're saying sell them before the price drops, I think with them playing badly in that match has also made the valuation drop and of course the price will also drop from now on. Unless if they manage to recover their performance in the next matches at least until the transfer window opens, then it's still possible that they can keep their price in a good range. But indeed, about the dramatic victory for Arsenal is not very good because after all, the opponent Arsenal faced was only a promotion team and was also in the lower zone in the Premier League standings at this time.

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December 06, 2023, 01:54:38 PM
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David Raya is the only person should be blamed in this match, he just make Arsenal looks struggle when the rest ten players play really good. Arteta need to put him on the bench, until Ramsdale is tired or injured, he can play again.

If Arteta use a same lineup in the upcoming match, Aston Villa will able to beat Arsenal.

So what happened to the defenders? Are they not suppose to clear the ball before the ball gets to Luton Town players? The defenders also should be looked at. I don't really like this pointing of one finger to a particular player. Last night, I can only blame him for the goal scored by Rose Barkley. That went pass him too easy, he should have done enough to stop that ball from going though. David Raya has got to be Mikel Arteta's first choice goalkeeper, how do you even expect him to dump him on the bench? That's not happening.

There was nothing wrong with the lineup, The Polish left full back that played from the first half should habe made good in runs. Gladdens me to see Arteta reading that game well. Zichenko in influenced the midfied alongside Rice

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December 06, 2023, 02:03:22 PM
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well it has to be said that Raya did make a lot of mistakes and if it wasn't for Harets and Rice, Arsenal would have lost, but at the end Arsenal were lucky.
I think that after such a match Ramsdale has a chance to return to the core and prove that he can play not worse than Raya.

But I agree that the goalkeeping position is one of Arsenal's weakest so far and if they really want to become champions, they need a top goalkeeper.
It doesn't even make sense at all why Arteta want to sign a new goalkeeper when Ramsdale wasn't making a big mistake in the last season, Arsenal turns worse when they having Raya become a goalkeeper.

Arteta need to sell Raya ASAP before his market price went down, moreover Manchester United is currently need a new goalkeeper.

If Arsenal's weakness has been proven to be in the goalkeeper, then surely other teams will also realize that factor. So, if you're saying sell them before the price drops, I think with them playing badly in that match has also made the valuation drop and of course the price will also drop from now on. Unless if they manage to recover their performance in the next matches at least until the transfer window opens, then it's still possible that they can keep their price in a good range. But indeed, about the dramatic victory for Arsenal is not very good because after all, the opponent Arsenal faced was only a promotion team and was also in the lower zone in the Premier League standings at this time.
Arsenal are a good and strong team they will win the match against a team like Luton Town it is for sure but in today's match Arsenal won the match but a team like Luton Town score 3 goals Against Arsenal this is very sad. Arsenal scored 4 goals which is normal but Luton Town managed to score abnormal goals which is due to Arsenal's weakness and Arsenal's goalkeeper's weakness. We never expected such a performance from Arsenal. This match was really sudden as Arsenal are at the top position in the Premier League table so that is not expected from them.

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They did all they could but the arsenal team were far too strong and resilient for them to resist. Luton had a chance of grabbing a point at least in that match but blew it all up due to lack of concentration at the last minute, they obviously lost focus and let arsenal take all three point home with Declan Rice goal despite taking the lead at some part of the game in the second half, it shows that arsenal were better prepared than Luton and that's why the result went asernal's ways.

Tough luck for Luton; they deserved a point from this match. Luton fans probably wish if Luton could have held on for a few more seconds. Lack of concentration cost them, while Arsenal managed to steal the match in the end. I absolutely love this team! The never-die attitude in the boys is fantastic, and they secured superb 3 points. Declan Rice has made a great comeback for Arsenal this season, scoring an incredible match-winner for them.

Arsenal's comeback was completely unexpected, I honestly never thought that Arsenal would be able to turn things around in the final seconds of the game, Declan Rice's goal really made Arteta smile. I was already unsure about Arsenal when the second half started with Luton ahead on goal difference, and I assumed that if both teams had to end the game by sharing the points then obviously it was a very bad result for Arsenal, how could they share points with a team that was far below them and almost in the relegation zone.

Although this could be called bad luck for Luton but I think it doesn't matter because with their performance that can balance the game against a squad that is far above them I think it is very good, otherwise my disappointment will be more inclined to Arsenal, fortunately Declan Rice can make a save for his squad's victory.

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December 06, 2023, 02:08:03 PM
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They did all they could but the arsenal team were far too strong and resilient for them to resist. Luton had a chance of grabbing a point at least in that match but blew it all up due to lack of concentration at the last minute, they obviously lost focus and let arsenal take all three point home with Declan Rice goal despite taking the lead at some part of the game in the second half, it shows that arsenal were better prepared than Luton and that's why the result went asernal's ways.
At first I never taught lutton would be such a problem to Arsenal because I felt Arsenal was in a very good form well enough to probably win Lytton will lesser stress a d a good win margin but it turned out Lutton made the best out of their home advantage to put up a good fight back spirit against the gunners in yesterdays game.

At some point I even felt lutton could be able to get three points from this game because they were literally scoring in succession, so arsenal had little space in-between their celebrations, it was more like if Arsenal had slacked, Lutton would have ended up with the tree point at the end of yesterday game, at some point I even considered the gunners lucky because their victory came as a result of luttons mistake in the last minutes of the game els they would have shared points with lutton at the end of the day.

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