The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread

[kro55]

But on the other hand I still feel this will also be a little bad. France is one of the national teams that is considered to have a big chance in the world cup but during this Nations League, Deschamps seems to have lost momentum and is still confused about placing players. They seem to have no chemistry and big names are just names for their players because they often rely on individuals rather than teamwork.

In these games, they shouldn't show everything just before the World Cup. It's also about tactics and that could help the other teams. If these games lost, it is not such a big loss compared to a game in the World Cup. There, many more people watch and the interest is much higher. The winner of the tournament will be talked about many years from now. What about over the UEFA Nations League?

For 1 to 2 matches it can still be said as not showing their best ability but for the 6 matches they did 1 win, 2 draws and 3 losses, it's definitely not something that can't be considered as not showing their ability because if they did, it would be like humiliating themselves. Even more interesting here is that they had to accept defeat to Denmark twice with almost the same score.

The number of injuries in France is so high. It is certain that they will improve during the world cup. Their starting XI has been weakened by the losses of Lloris, Kimpembe, Theo Hernandez, Pogba, Kante and Big Benz. Kounde, Dembele, and Coman were among the super subs who were lost. It is, however, impossible to accept such a result. It's a good thing Austria didn't beat Croatia. If that happened, they would be relegated. In Qatar, I wouldn't be surprised if they get eliminated in the group stage because of all that's going on in their camp.

I think France has the most star players of any football team. Mbappe is one of the most in-form players in the team. Besides Griezmann, Mandy and many other players who play great football. All together will be a great team in the upcoming World Cup. However, I cannot consider France as a favorite team this time.

France team has many star players. Forwards include star players like Mbappe, Benzema and Griezmann. However, the France squad is not strong. Their performance is very poor. Because the chemistry between the players is not good. They cannot perform well as a team due to lack of understanding between them. Also, I don't think France coach Didier Deschamps is experienced enough. Despite having a lot of talented players, he could not stabilize the team.

[Soonandwaite]

It is very strange that England and Germany are in the relegation zone and Hungary are top of the group... England have not won a game so far and face Germany today... For some reason bookmakers are giving preference to England, although they give high odds on their victory - 2.4... And Germany's win is rated at 3.0... But I think it will be a draw or a German win today... I don't think England are favourites...

tonight there will be 90k fans in the stadium supporting the english team . it will be damn loud in the stadium.
i hope the german team will motivate that right and show a good game against the english team .
both teams didn't show a good performance the last games . so it's hard to name a favourite. but i think england will win the game with these fantastic fans.
and ..........  i hope for a victory for germany 

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

The match between Germany and England might have been the best match of the day, but both teams do not care about this organization. Still, I will choose this match to watch. Because I think this match can be more exciting than other matches.

If I make a prediction based on the results of both teams in the group, I predict that this match will end under 2.5 goals. Because the group matches of both teams passed with few goals. But I don't think it's the right thing to bet on this game. Honestly, it's not very good to bet on any game in the Nations League. Because this league is not taken too seriously, we face surprising results. That's why I look forward to league matches.

[gabbie2010]

It is very strange that England and Germany are in the relegation zone and Hungary are top of the group... England have not won a game so far and face Germany today... For some reason bookmakers are giving preference to England, although they give high odds on their victory - 2.4... And Germany's win is rated at 3.0... But I think it will be a draw or a German win today... I don't think England are favourites...

tonight there will be 90k fans in the stadium supporting the english team . it will be damn loud in the stadium.
i hope the german team will motivate that right and show a good game against the english team .
both teams didn't show a good performance the last games . so it's hard to name a favourite. but i think england will win the game with these fantastic fans.
and ..........  i hope for a victory for germany 

The English team had already been relegated so winning their match today in front of 90K fans at Wembley stadium wouldn't make a difference, they just needed to win for consolation and perhaps help Gareth Southgate to access as well as select his 26 man squad for the upcoming World Cup in November, this was a poor outing for the English team so far winless in five matches is absolutely incredible for a team whose players were selected from one of the best league in the world with so many quality players in their defence, midfield and attack yet the team struggle against country such as Hungary. I hope the improve before the World Cup.

[Distraction]

It is pretty difficult to predict the results today.

England and Germany both don't have any goal left in the group now. I just wonder if England would like to finish their last League A match with a victory at least. They have the home advantage also. Their last head-to-head ended 1-1 and England saved one point by Kane's goal in the last minutes. I don't think that this match will be comfortable for them either. My expectation is a 2-1 win for England in this. Hence England win at 2.42 and both teams to score at 1.76 are my preferences.

Hungary - Italy is an even more difficult match to predict. Hungary have improved their performance incredibly much. They beat England and Germany both before but lost to Italy. Maybe it is time to have revenge on them now. Hungary would play a controlled game and look for benefiting from their chances in the best way. If they get ahead first it would be quite difficult for Italy to score against them. Because Hungary are very good at maintaining their score advantage recently. They are very durable. I'll still give both teams to score a chance at 2.14.

[Boristhecat]

Denmark 2 - 0 France



france was playing with Mbappe, Giround, Griezman. But the coach of france started to replace these players and more other players, in a clear message: "I don't care about this league" this is my perception, france has zero interest in this competition, they can't even fake it or disguise it . I put my money knowing that, but I hoped that they would at least try a little and win the game, but I was wrong in that part and lost a bet, I'm glad I didn't put the same amount I always bet, for this game I put a value very low

I don't know if you are right about Deschamps' position on the importance of the League of Nations, but if you are right it is a very dangerous position. After a series of failures in an "unimportant" tournament, fans will expect the team to perform not just better, but much better in an important tournament, and it seems to me that if France does not reach at least the semi-finals in the World Cup, this will lead to Deschamps being fired.
Even in an unimportant tournament, such star players, simply due to their level, should have better results than France currently has. This is a sign that the coach is doing something wrong.

[Pulsar77]

Southgate stated that the World Cup was the most important thing for the team and he wouldn't be put under pressure by England administration after relegating from their Nations League group by the Italy defeat. He is right actually but the fans don't think the same of course. He made another statement on this topic that he understood the reaction from the fans. People want to see positive results from their team to be more hopeful about the World Cup in the end.

But they should understand one thing also that Southgate needs to do his best to keep their players away from long-term injuries before the World Cup starts in two months.

[KTChampions]

In fact, I don’t see anything wrong with this - when an underdog plays with additional motivation (and does not “lose before the game”), it is interesting for everyone - both teams and spectators (the best example is the Premier League). Another thing is that unexpected results in the League of Nations are a consequence of the fact that the favorites do not take this tournament seriously.
By the way, if France loses points again today, then it has a chance to take the last place in the group and go down in the league B. But France is one of the main favorites of the upcoming World Cup along with England.

This competition needs to be put into perspective. As many as 4 rounds of this competition were played in June, after the end of the league season, and many players came tired from a hard season and unmotivated.
The poor results of some favourites, such as England and France, in this competition do not really mean much because they do not show the real strength of these teams.
The World Cup will be a completely different story and all national teams will come fully prepared, although a big handicap for many teams will be the fact that there will be no time for preparatory matches.
That is why these two rounds are actually the last preparations of all European teams for the World Cup and this is currently the main focus of all national teams participating in the World Cup.
Of course, nobody wants to be the last in the group and fall into the lower class of the competition, so I believe that France will play a maximum serious game against Denmark today.

So you was wrong  Another shameful result from France and only thanks to Croatia they kept their place in League A. I don't even know how to comment on this - maybe France is really that bad and will fail in the World Cup? I'm not sure of anything anymore.
And I'm more and more thinking that FIFA and UEFA have produced a monstrous inflation in football - too many games, too many tournaments. A significant part of them can be removed and no one will grieve.

[Slow death]

It is very strange that England and Germany are in the relegation zone and Hungary are top of the group... England have not won a game so far and face Germany today... For some reason bookmakers are giving preference to England, although they give high odds on their victory - 2.4... And Germany's win is rated at 3.0... But I think it will be a draw or a German win today... I don't think England are favourites...

looking at these two teams that in my opinion are not giving value to this competition, I believe that this will be another game in which they will not take it seriously, for these two teams this game will be like a friendly game, and they will enjoy rotating players or so they will prefer to do some experiments to see how each player can do in certain conditions, knowing that the world cup is very close, these two teams will avoid showing the strategy they want to implement in the world cup. if I were the coach of these two teams I wouldn't risk playing seriously in this competition either knowing that we are very close to the world cup

Denmark 2 - 0 France



france was playing with Mbappe, Giround, Griezman. But the coach of france started to replace these players and more other players, in a clear message: "I don't care about this league" this is my perception, france has zero interest in this competition, they can't even fake it or disguise it . I put my money knowing that, but I hoped that they would at least try a little and win the game, but I was wrong in that part and lost a bet, I'm glad I didn't put the same amount I always bet, for this game I put a value very low

I don't know if you are right about Deschamps' position on the importance of the League of Nations, but if you are right it is a very dangerous position. After a series of failures in an "unimportant" tournament, fans will expect the team to perform not just better, but much better in an important tournament, and it seems to me that if France does not reach at least the semi-finals in the World Cup, this will lead to Deschamps being fired.
Even in an unimportant tournament, such star players, simply due to their level, should have better results than France currently has. This is a sign that the coach is doing something wrong.

if you were france's coach, you would say to your players: "play a lot seriously, we need to win" and at the end of the game 5 players get injured, and you as a coach even before that game you already had a large number of injured players, then the world cup arrives and you don't have good players to play with, would that be a good strategy? I do not think so! The best option is not to take this tournament seriously and save the players for the world cup, because the world cup is a serious competition where all teams will be taking it seriously. franca's coach is looking to the future and what is more important


After I lost money in the last few games, this time I decided not to bet on these games today, I prefer to just watch the game, if the game proves to be something interesting. I'll watch for a few minutes and then decide whether to continue watching or not

[3meek]

It is very strange that England and Germany are in the relegation zone and Hungary are top of the group... England have not won a game so far and face Germany today... For some reason bookmakers are giving preference to England, although they give high odds on their victory - 2.4... And Germany's win is rated at 3.0... But I think it will be a draw or a German win today... I don't think England are favourites...

tonight there will be 90k fans in the stadium supporting the english team . it will be damn loud in the stadium.
i hope the german team will motivate that right and show a good game against the english team .
both teams didn't show a good performance the last games . so it's hard to name a favourite. but i think england will win the game with these fantastic fans.
and ..........  i hope for a victory for germany 

Who knows... England haven't won a game in this group and with such crazy fan support they have to do it tonight! Although I also want Germany to win because it's not a big game for England, but I think tonight will be a battle... But still a win for prestige is essential for England, despite the fact that they play against not weak Germany...

[hashrateproducts]

I don't know if you are right about Deschamps' position on the importance of the League of Nations, but if you are right it is a very dangerous position. After a series of failures in an "unimportant" tournament, fans will expect the team to perform not just better, but much better in an important tournament, and it seems to me that if France does not reach at least the semi-finals in the World Cup, this will lead to Deschamps being fired.
Even in an unimportant tournament, such star players, simply due to their level, should have better results than France currently has. This is a sign that the coach is doing something wrong.

Deschamps needs to get back the team to their best form because the recent results they're having is totally unacceptable by the fans. France have lost and draw several games even though it's not essential but they need to start winning games. Deschamps formation would have come into a well effective action only if he's favorite players were present in the games. The world cup coming up and I expect the defending champions to come back in actions because they still have the necessary number and qualities of Players.

[püsür]

I believe no one could have predicted that Hungary would be in the position they are now at the begin of tournament, after being drawn against England, Italy and Germany, they were automatically considered bottom of table dweller, but here we are now, they only loss they've succumb to so far in the tournament is to Italy, but I believe that for what it's worth, a draw for them tonight is considerably possible and if that's what are they are set out to get, then they will get the job done.

They were considered as an underdog at beginning but now they are at top. England will be de-ranked next year in Nations League and Hungary is part of that terrible result for England.

It is more important because they did not have star players like Berbatov years ago. They are playing as a united team and achieve very good result. Of course we can not count the bad performance of Italy, Germany and England.

On the day the groups were announced, everyone made comments such as the last place finish for Hungary, the group of death. They gave the necessary answer to everyone with the score table they created by defeating their top rivals such as England and Germany. I really have great respect for Hungary. They managed to come out of the group leader when there is England, Germany and Italy. This is truly a great success story. A team that shows that football is not just about football players, it is a team game. It is very sad that Hungary is not in the World Cup. Such a good team would add greatness to the tournament.

[MinoRaiola]

That iss right. Italy, Germany and England have really not well performed so far. Germany also has the problem that the player from Bayern Munich are not performing well in the Bundesliga either. But for a team, team spirit is also important and if the team harmonises well and everyone is there for each other, something like in the team from Hungary is possible. I hope that Hungary will win against Italy today.

At half-time, Italy 1-0 and they now better than Hungary. In the first match, Italy won 2:1. Now with a win Theo got the 1st place. England at 4th and Germany on 3rd place. The semi-final on 14.06.23, but many will forget the Nation League. Italy with a little more luck in the game, but is getting better and the chance of the 2:0 is getting higher.

[Rabi3]

England were the weakest link of the group, they only scored one in goal in five matches and they are playing the sixth one now, and they are losing 1-0 to Germany, if England have any respect for their fans they should at least score a goal today, I'm betting on them to score in this match, they didn't do a lot in this match but I think they can at least score @1.73, a decent bet I suppose.

[3meek]

I had no doubt that Italy would beat Hungary today, but I didn't risk betting on them to win because there's a lot of unpredictability in the Nations League in recent matches... Although the odds on Italy's win were over 2... Of course, the game is not over yet, but it seems to me that Hungary have no chance left, maybe if only by one goal... Now it's nice to see Italy at the top of the standings... Maybe at least they will win something since they didn't qualify for the World Cup...

[buwaytress]

I agree about Italy that there is no other tournament after this National League but unfortunately, Hungary itself is not a weak team and Italy will certainly be difficult to win in this match. Just look at Hungary when they played against England who could win with a score of 1-0 and 4-0, while Italy only got a 0-0 draw and won only with a 1-0 score. Also, here Hungary is unbeaten by Germany but look at Italy even being beaten by Germany with a score of 5-2, it is a very bad result for Italy because they are only focused on this event. Basically Hungary here is not a superior team in the Hell group, but who would have thought Hungary could be the top team in the standings. That way, I believe Hungary will continue their good trend at this moment, the match against Italy is the last match which of course they will play with all their abilities.

Think we have to understand that beating England post Euro doesn't really say as much about the qualities of the winning team more than it does about the English. Dropping your most creative players by far (TAA and Maddison) despite not being able to create a single goal in what will now be 6 games?

Hungary a decent team and being in League A is testament but Italy, while having a somewhat barren streak themselves, remember came on the back on an incredible run of form, and with youngsters lighting up Serie A.

Scores right now with half an hour to go, not a surprise given this week's results.

[Alanaz]

I had no doubt that Italy would beat Hungary today, but I didn't risk betting on them to win because there's a lot of unpredictability in the Nations League in recent matches... Although the odds on Italy's win were over 2... Of course, the game is not over yet, but it seems to me that Hungary have no chance left, maybe if only by one goal... Now it's nice to see Italy at the top of the standings... Maybe at least they will win something since they didn't qualify for the World Cup...

60 minutes of time passed and Italy now took the lead with a score that was quite difficult for Hungary to follow.
2 Goals from young Italian players Raspadori and Dimarco seemed to be the end for Hungary because it was difficult for them to follow behind with their current condition even though the Hungarian resistance and the games they played were actually always entertaining.

[Adbitco]

England were the weakest link of the group, they only scored one in goal in five matches and they are playing the sixth one now, and they are losing 1-0 to Germany, if England have any respect for their fans they should at least score a goal today, I'm betting on them to score in this match, they didn't do a lot in this match but I think they can at least score @1.73, a decent bet I suppose.

I m even surprised seeing Germany scored 2 over England, and Italy 2 against Hungary I never expected this to be so but was wondering how England was given 1 zeros from my observation they aren't making move,  Germany plays more confidently without being in any pressure.

[Soonandwaite]

England : Germany 0:2        70 minute

i didn't expect that. does England have a new coach soon? 20 minutes left to play. but who will score the next goal ?
the 90k fans are damn quiet today  

edit  1:2 72 Minute

edit : 2 :2    super goal !!

[KTChampions]

So, if the games end with the current score, then England will finish last in the group with 2 points, and a goal difference of 1-9   An excellent result for one of the favorites of the World Championship!
I wonder if FIFA has any ideas to raise the prestige of this tournament? It is absolute nonsense what is happening now with this tournament.

Wow, England managed to score one goal! The score is 1-2 at the moment.