The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread

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The condition of the French team is not good. We saw the poor performance of my France team in the Euro Championship. Almost all the players on the team are stars. But their bonding with each other is weak. If current France coach Didier Deschamps cannot solve the team's internal problems, it will be difficult for France to qualify for the round-16 of the next World Cup.

we all know the names of big players are in the French national team. they don't play as a team, their game has no artistic value. it's very different when they play in their club. There is something wrong with the French team.
This will take the coach's important role in bringing this team together. France has a great history. fans certainly don't want to see France perform badly at the World Cup later.

However, this problem must be solved because Francis' game was not very satisfying with his results or in the Nations League or in the previous world cup which was a mess, so before the world cup starts this year they have to be mentally prepared not to play like in the Nations League there is nothing interesting about it, I think Didier Deschamps should be able to make their squad more solid just like at their respective clubs, because for me the hope in the world cup for Francis is quite big, especially with some star players.

[coco23]

I think it's all inseparable from the strategy of the English coach, they are one of the strong teams that did not show good performance on the UEFA Natinal League stage. in the matches that have been played they rotate players very often so it is very clear that they just want to prepare this team for the Qatar world cup in the next few months, not play fully serious in this UEFA National League competition, I see there are several teams that have quality strong but they have the same fate as England, for example like France.

Player rotation is good, but the weak performance is also a sign that they haven't formed a functioning team yet, something that is essential if they want to perform well at the world cup. I agree we should not draw too many conclusions yet, but for me the main conclusion is, that those teams are not "ready" yet. Let's hope their coaches can improve and are able to form a high quality team for the world cup.

[Gencecikmen]

Yesterday night was a humiliating loss by a big score for England. Hungary beating England 4-0 in an away match by a wide margin. Hungary they surprised me a lot by crashing 4-0 in England. The first stage matches are over. Next matches are going to be on late September now. The matches in September will be the last games before the world cup. And then there will be the World Cup.

That was the three lion's ( England ) worst home defeat since 1928. Do you really think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job ? From the reactions of the home fans, I don't need anyone to tell me this will eventually be a turn of for the fans.
They better take a good decision fast or watch England side get knocked out of the FIFA World Cup soon upcoming ( November ).

Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.

[snipie]

Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.

Southgate won't resign and it is unlikely to be sacked. He said that this (humiliating) defeat against Hungary should motivate him and the team to do better next time.
I don't think personally that France and England will perform as poorly in the World Cup as they did in Nations League. The motivation and the tension there will be different. The eyes of the whole nation are on them.

[omgitsmehehe]

Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.

Southgate won't resign and it is unlikely to be sacked. He said that this (humiliating) defeat against Hungary should motivate him and the team to do better next time.
I don't think personally that France and England will perform as poorly in the World Cup as they did in Nations League. The motivation and the tension there will be different. The eyes of the whole nation are on them.

Honestly I think Southgate should be more serious with this team, am already tired with their pattern of play. A country like England should not be playing like this, cause the country have alot of quality players. But sometimes I think most of the mistakes comes from the coach, he only rotates players without knowing how to use them, through out his stay with the team he don't have a first eleven team or a consistent number 10 they keep rotating the team and the numbers. That doesn't seems normal to me he need to arrange this team so that they can play to our expectations. Cause with the player they have we don't expect such poor performance from them, they really need to improve before the world cup.

[Sebas.tian]

England has scored only 1 goal in 4 games - only San Marino is worse with 0.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.

England performance was very poor in this tournament because many people concluded that England will defeat Hungary 3-0 to improve their points but it was so painful to see Hungary defeated England 1-0. I think, England coach need to train their players very well against their remaining matches because their performance was very poor for their past matches which is not giving their citizens joy about their current results. I think, it will be difficult for England to achieve this year title because their midfield is not too strong as before.

[coco23]

A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.

Turkey and also Greece seem to be in the wrong league anyway. They are not a first class teams, but their opponents were only small countries with almost amateur teams (no offence to the small countries please )
Latvia won all 4 games, but they are in the bottom league. Positive surprises (for me) were also Norway (who are dominiating their league with difficult opponents such as Sweden and Serbia) and Bosnia (who go good results against Finland and Romania. I believe we never saw Bosnia at a larger tournament, I hope they can qualify for the next Euro Cup)

[bering]

Honestly I think Southgate should be more serious with this team, am already tired with their pattern of play. A country like England should not be playing like this, cause the country have alot of quality players. But sometimes I think most of the mistakes comes from the coach, he only rotates players without knowing how to use them, through out his stay with the team he don't have a first eleven team or a consistent number 10 they keep rotating the team and the numbers. That doesn't seems normal to me he need to arrange this team so that they can play to our expectations. Cause with the player they have we don't expect such poor performance from them, they really need to improve before the world cup.

I think Southgate really serious for England because he don't want to see England had poor performance especially they will playing at world cup soon and actually compared to England performance during world cup qualification or euro 2020 i think they have impressive performance but i don't know why seem in Nation league England still not in the good shape however England have to forget their lost from Hungary and focus for upcoming matches against Italy and Germany that they shouldn't lose anymore because if they had bad results again then not impossible soon Southgate will be sacked

[Bobrox]

I think Southgate really serious for England because he don't want to see England had poor performance especially they will playing at world cup soon and actually compared to England performance during world cup qualification or euro 2020 i think they have impressive performance but i don't know why seem in Nation league England still not in the good shape however England have to forget their lost from Hungary and focus for upcoming matches against Italy and Germany that they shouldn't lose anymore because if they had bad results again then not impossible soon Southgate will be sacked

Poor performance from England on UEFA Nation League I think become bad result for Southgate because have prepare for World Cup few next months later, contrast performance from England on Euro 2020 where success lead until final and World Cup qualifier because England have consistent performance, although with UEFA Nation League is not really important I see several time defeating by other countries will be bad effect for his position as England manager. I worry with Southgate position keep extended until World Cup hold on few months later or will be finish before World Cup begin.

[AndySt]

Let's face it, it is not going to be something that teams will care too much about because there is nothing giving them any advantage at all, makes no sense to keep it going that way. I have to say that the fact that England played this badly could be used as a proof that no team really cares about this that much, maybe only lower level teams that try to get their rare win.

England did not win any of the four matches, which is sad and embarrassing for England. England is not a weak team. They are a very renowned and traditional team. Fans do not expect such a bad performance from them. Maybe the UEFA Nations League title isn't important to them. However, they should have performed a little better.

On the one hand, let's not ignore the disastrous results of the England national team, but on the other hand, we should not make tragedies out of this and attract too much attention. No wonder Kane responded to criticism of the head coach of the national team that Southgate has achieved the best results with the national team in the last 50 years. This year is special because the World Cup will be held in winter, so many top teams use a tournament like the UEFA Nations League to see potential candidates for the national team and different combinations and conduct a large rotation. Also, let's not forget the time when the tournament is held, after the end of the club season, when many players are already dreaming of a subsequent vacation and some rest.

[3meek]

England has scored only 1 goal in 4 games - only San Marino is worse with 0.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.
This will put Southgate under immense pressure and is something he should have avoided. The World Cup is approaching and now he has even more doubts about the team selection than before.

The same can be said for France, and they are the current world champions... It's just that the Nations League is not a serious competition, but rather a warm-up, where the coach has a good opportunity to experiment with team structure and tactics under realistic conditions... That's why we see such results from the top teams...

The condition of the French team is not good. We saw the poor performance of my France team in the Euro Championship. Almost all the players on the team are stars. But their bonding with each other is weak. If current France coach Didier Deschamps cannot solve the team's internal problems, it will be difficult for France to qualify for the round-16 of the next World Cup.

But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...

[laurenB7742]

But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...

I was particularly disappointed by England's performance in France. They are a well-known team. But still, we do not see any good performance from them. Maybe they are not interested in UEFA Nations League, but it is a shame for them not to win a single match. At the same time the bonding between the players of their team does not look good to me. They will not be able to perform well in the World Cup if they cannot solve their internal problems.

[Daniel91]

I don't think this competition is a true indicator of the strength of national teams, and coaches should be too worried.
It is obvious that most of the main players of England, France, Italy ... came physically and mentally exhausted to this competition and were not at the right level for these matches.
Southgate still has plenty of time to prepare his team well for what is really the only thing that matters and that is the World Cup in Qatar.
I don't think anyone takes this competition too seriously.

I agree with you that this competition is not the main focus for the top teams, however it gives some indication in what state the national teams are. I don't think the exhaustion argument is valid much here. The World Cup would normally have happened now without long break before. Also in November the top players won't have a long break before the actual competition. France and England especially should see the performance of the last games as a warning sign, they need to come up with a good plan now.

it seems so, it is clearly seen by the number of rotations of players in each match. The big teams in this tournament don't seem to have more motivation to win the game, instead they are looking for a good position or squad to look at the world cup in the next few months.
The fatigue factor of the top European top players who have just finished competing in the league I think is not the reason but rather the priority of the national team which is slightly lacking in this UEFA National League tournament.

With this competition, UEFA has actually prevented national teams from choosing their own opponents and preparing in their own way for major competitions such as the European and World Cups.
Instead of one or two preliminaries as before, now the national teams have to play many more games in a very short time, which brings UEFA much more money, but this system of competition is not liked by players or coaches because it is too hard and the competition itself is not too important.
I heard a rumor recently that UEFA is planning another new competition, in which the winners of continental competitions would reportedly play. This all together becomes ridiculous, I guess UEFA will start a new competition every month just to make more money 

[hahay]

But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...

I was particularly disappointed by England's performance in France. They are a well-known team. But still, we do not see any good performance from them. Maybe they are not interested in UEFA Nations League, but it is a shame for them not to win a single match. At the same time the bonding between the players of their team does not look good to me. They will not be able to perform well in the World Cup if they cannot solve their internal problems.

The difference in the tournament will certainly make their gameplay different too, if this tournament is not so good and does not excite them then naturally the result is something that is disappointing. But when they consider the world cup to be a more prestigious and motivational tournament, then the results will certainly be different from the results we see in this national league. Regarding all of that, they should be able to think that all tournaments are great, because then at least they will be seen as good, which means they still play professionally even though they play in less prestigious tournaments.

[muratsink]

Honestly, I don't think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job. Gareth Southgate must resign after those humiliating results. I know that the Nations League matches aren't that important, but an important trailer for FIFA World Cup. If England doesn’t fix this team, they’ll get knocked out at group stages in the World Cup.

Southgate won't resign and it is unlikely to be sacked. He said that this (humiliating) defeat against Hungary should motivate him and the team to do better next time.
I don't think personally that France and England will perform as poorly in the World Cup as they did in Nations League. The motivation and the tension there will be different. The eyes of the whole nation are on them.

actually this was just a friendly match but UEFA made this tournament more competitive by containing 55 European countries so it was made into a tournament in general, so it was only natural that England did not play at full strength so they were massacred by Hungary with a score of 0-4, because the match We can't use this as a benchmark to fire Gareth Southgate from his chair to England national team training, even teams like.Germany, Italy and France are also struggling in this.competition, maybe only Portugal and the Netherlands who take the UEFA Nations League tournament too seriously.

[Ratash]

England has scored only 1 goal in 4 games - only San Marino is worse with 0.
They managed to lose twice against Hungary and their 2 remaining games are Italy away and Germany at home - not the easiest draw.

England performance was very poor in this tournament because many people concluded that England will defeat Hungary 3-0 to improve their points but it was so painful to see Hungary defeated England 1-0. I think, England coach need to train their players very well against their remaining matches because their performance was very poor for their past matches which is not giving their citizens joy about their current results. I think, it will be difficult for England to achieve this year title because their midfield is not too strong as before.

I said this many times before if england team want to get back as strong as they were before they need a new manager southgate has been the manager for a long time and yet he failed at winning any trophies despite making it to the euro final and his team i showing poor performance lately despite having many young talented players, a loss 4 0 to hungary is such a shamefull result they need to let him go asap.

[Alisha-k]

Let's face it, it is not going to be something that teams will care too much about because there is nothing giving them any advantage at all, makes no sense to keep it going that way. I have to say that the fact that England played this badly could be used as a proof that no team really cares about this that much, maybe only lower level teams that try to get their rare win.

England did not win any of the four matches, which is sad and embarrassing for England. England is not a weak team. They are a very renowned and traditional team. Fans do not expect such a bad performance from them. Maybe the UEFA Nations League title isn't important to them. However, they should have performed a little better.

TBH, I really don't know what is England's problem. At least to win a match would have helped their case a little. Sitting at the bottom of the group D, being defeated by Hungary and collecting a red card is enough trouble for Gareth. I feel they keep losing due to entitlement issues tho.

[herurist]

But I think the problem is not with the team but with the Nations League, where nobody has any incentive to perform well, especially on the eve of World Cup, when a players can get injured... Not only France performed terribly in Nations League, but also Germany, England, Croatia, Italy... I am sure that at World Cup these teams, except Italy of course, will have other results...

I was particularly disappointed by England's performance in France. They are a well-known team. But still, we do not see any good performance from them. Maybe they are not interested in UEFA Nations League, but it is a shame for them not to win a single match. At the same time the bonding between the players of their team does not look good to me. They will not be able to perform well in the World Cup if they cannot solve their internal problems.

This is indeed quite reasonable considering that they used this as a test in several patterns they wanted to play. From a game and result standpoint we can't see anything exciting and it's natural enough to be disappointed, but on the other hand with this it's pretty clear that Deschamps can see what works and what doesn't for them now.
Hopefully for the world cup it won't be like this again for the big teams.

[BitcoinAccepted]

The players now have a few weeks of rest and after the summer they will continue with the Nations League. Normally I think the players don't care much, but in this case it could be different. The World Championship already starts in November and so you actually have an extra practice period in the remaining 2 matches of the Nations League. That looks good then. For many teams, there is little at stake. England still has something to do with its reputation after the 0-4 decline, but other countries such as Italy also disappoint after the 5-2 defeat against Germany. Where it was 5-0 by the way.

[omgitsmehehe]

Let's face it, it is not going to be something that teams will care too much about because there is nothing giving them any advantage at all, makes no sense to keep it going that way. I have to say that the fact that England played this badly could be used as a proof that no team really cares about this that much, maybe only lower level teams that try to get their rare win.

England did not win any of the four matches, which is sad and embarrassing for England. England is not a weak team. They are a very renowned and traditional team. Fans do not expect such a bad performance from them. Maybe the UEFA Nations League title isn't important to them. However, they should have performed a little better.

TBH, I really don't know what is England's problem. At least to win a match would have helped their case a little. Sitting at the bottom of the group D, being defeated by Hungary and collecting a red card is enough trouble for Gareth. I feel they keep losing due to entitlement issues tho.

To be sincere am totally disappointed in England, they are a well known team, with alot of quality players. We expect much better performance from them am so devastated at the moment with their performance, they haven't win a single match in the nation's league, and that's a bad record for a team like England am so frustrated with their performance in the nation's league.  Hope they perform better in the world cup.