The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread

[Minor Miner]

Italy and England had one of their worst days in this tournament yesterday certainly. Italy didn't even have a proper starting eleven and this cost them a big loss like 5-2. Germany didn't turn this opportunity down. England had a good starting eleven in my opinion but they still lost the match against Hungary home by a result like 4-0. This was really absurd to me and I wonder what really went wrong with England players in this match. Hungary shouldn't even have too many chances but they did much more in this.

England's performance was very disappointing. They have not won any of the four matches. I thought they could play well against Hungary. But they conceded 4 goals, and England suffered a humiliating defeat. Such a bad performance was not expected from a renowned team like England. At the same time Italy has lost 5-2. The Italian players attacked a lot, but Germany was able to dominate from the start of the match. So easily they won this match.

[sana54210]

In my opinion, this is a massive wake up call for the English. They are nowhere near as good as they think they are. These last 4 results should give Southgate a clearer perspective as to which players aren’t going to cut the mustard and won’t be on the plane to Qatar. The time to experiment is over. The remaining two games v Germany & Italy aren’t friendlies & relegation from that group is a real threat so Southgate needs to start playing what he considers to be his strongest first choice 11 for those 2 games because they’ll be the only window he has before they walk out on 21st November.

I believe that it is not really a "wake up call" but more like they just didn't give a damn at all. Lets be honest, they are better than most teams in national competitions, maybe there could be a few better than them, but all of the others should be easy to beat for them.

However, they rarely ever give a damn about national competition, which has been a cultural thing at this point because I never really saw them compete all that well for a long time, possibly best team just ended up losing recently in Europa cup. So all in all I have to say that it is not going to be simple to just say "they are good but they need to play better", it is just "they are good, and should care" is more likely.

[Gencecikmen]

Yesterday night was a humiliating loss by a big score for England. Hungary beating England 4-0 in an away match by a wide margin. Hungary they surprised me a lot by crashing 4-0 in England. The first stage matches are over. Next matches are going to be on late September now. The matches in September will be the last games before the world cup. And then there will be the World Cup.

[terrorJR]

During the Nations League match, I lost a lot of bets, including in some major countries that lost, because for me they can win with other opponents it was in my prediction but in fact it did not agree with what I analyzed.

It is very difficult to predict the matches of the UEFA Nations League. Because no team takes this tournament seriously. Especially the performance of renowned teams is very irregular. They are also losing against relatively weaker teams. And I've lost a lot of bets. The performances of renowned teams, in particular, have disappointed.

True, this is just to try and measure the strength of a team if I look especially at some of the big teams that have qualified for the world cup because this is really just trying formations, tactics and how to make rotations there.
I tried several times to bet and the result was not what I expected so I stopped it and focused on watching for now.

[Balmain]

Italy and England had one of their worst days in this tournament yesterday certainly. Italy didn't even have a proper starting eleven and this cost them a big loss like 5-2. Germany didn't turn this opportunity down. England had a good starting eleven in my opinion but they still lost the match against Hungary home by a result like 4-0. This was really absurd to me and I wonder what really went wrong with England players in this match. Hungary shouldn't even have too many chances but they did much more in this.

England's performance was very disappointing. They have not won any of the four matches. I thought they could play well against Hungary. But they conceded 4 goals, and England suffered a humiliating defeat. Such a bad performance was not expected from a renowned team like England. At the same time Italy has lost 5-2. The Italian players attacked a lot, but Germany was able to dominate from the start of the match. So easily they won this match.

It was a big disappointment, Hungary took full control after their second goal and in a way I can say that the England defense was unlocked. Germany finally played against Italy with the football they always played and got a superior win. Although Italy tried to compete, it was not enough, and there were also many goal opportunities that Germany missed.

[MinoRaiola]

The matches in September will be the last games before the world cup. And then there will be the World Cup.

Three months will pass until then and I would bet that they will be just as friendly matches. Many goals and lots of substitutions and new players. One thing I don't want to happen is a new Corona wave in September or October, that would ruin everything again.

[Oluwa-btc]

Yesterday night was a humiliating loss by a big score for England. Hungary beating England 4-0 in an away match by a wide margin. Hungary they surprised me a lot by crashing 4-0 in England. The first stage matches are over. Next matches are going to be on late September now. The matches in September will be the last games before the world cup. And then there will be the World Cup.

That was the three lion's ( England ) worst home defeat since 1928. Do you really think Gareth Southgate can continue with the job ? From the reactions of the home fans, I don't need anyone to tell me this will eventually be a turn of for the fans.
They better take a good decision fast or watch England side get knocked out of the FIFA World Cup soon upcoming ( November ).

Timo Werner scored a brece against the Italian side which they have always won on five different occasions ahead of the current meetings they had. Netherland also had another hundred percent winning record against Wale's with Memphis Depay scoring the late winner, Louis Van Gaal shouldn't be taken for granted during the World Cup, don't forget the Netherland squad hurt a big country like Spain with Van Gaal as Coach.

[MK-74]

During the Nations League match, I lost a lot of bets, including in some major countries that lost, because for me they can win with other opponents it was in my prediction but in fact it did not agree with what I analyzed.

It is very difficult to predict the matches of the UEFA Nations League. Because no team takes this tournament seriously. Especially the performance of renowned teams is very irregular. They are also losing against relatively weaker teams. And I've lost a lot of bets. The performances of renowned teams, in particular, have disappointed.

I agree, no team takes this tournament seriously. That's why I'm not betting on this tournament. There are only a few teams that take this tournament seriously.

[Zackgeno96]

Much has been said and written about it, but England's defeat to Hungary is a great shame. How can such a thing happen? There should be no team worldwide that wins 4-0 at England. And England also just had a strong team on the field. Could it be the coach? I don't think he makes a convincing impression and the players have shown little on the field. Maybe time for another coach.

[Distraction]

I assume so many people lost a lot of money during the first four rounds of the Nations League. This must be really frustrating of course and I have experienced the same thing too. Big teams of this tournament just don't take this very seriously generally and this makes me really annoyed when I place a bet on them. For example, I didn't expect England to be crushed by a score like that by Hungary. I assume the majority of bettors didn't expect this too. Football is full of surprises maybe but I don't look at this as a surprise. Because England didn't want to bother winning this.

[uchegod-21]

My problem is not why England lost with a large margin, my only problem here is France team. I don't understand why France should be at the bottom of the group. I was able to view most of their matches, especially at the ending part and you will be surprised how these guys play and why they don't win. I will like someone to explain to me. This is an attack that has:
Benzema,
Mbappe,
Griezmann,
Coleman,
And Ukunku.
I do not actually relate, but these guys play good football towards the end of the matches.

[omgitsmehehe]

I assume so many people lost a lot of money during the first four rounds of the Nations League. This must be really frustrating of course and I have experienced the same thing too. Big teams of this tournament just don't take this very seriously generally and this makes me really annoyed when I place a bet on them. For example, I didn't expect England to be crushed by a score like that by Hungary. I assume the majority of bettors didn't expect this too. Football is full of surprises maybe but I don't look at this as a surprise. Because England didn't want to bother winning this.
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Actually I agree with you, I don't see the reason why a country like England filled with experience and quality players will lose to Hungary with such goal difference. I was so devastated yesterday after hearing the score, it got me tired cause I placed a bet on England to beat Hungary but looking at the score before me yesterday it got me tired. Recently am tired of betting in the UEFA nation's league, cause alot of big teams are not performing well, am so tired of placing a bet on any big teams cause I don't trust them.

[Zackgeno96]

My problem is not why England lost with a large margin, my only problem here is France team. I don't understand why France should be at the bottom of the group. I was able to view most of their matches, especially at the ending part and you will be surprised how these guys play and why they don't win. I will like someone to explain to me. This is an attack that has:
Benzema,
Mbappe,
Griezmann,
Coleman,
And Ukunku.
I do not actually relate, but these guys play good football towards the end of the matches.

France has its moments. And alternate bad days with good results. Yet they are the reigning world champions. In the end, the players and coaches don't think these Nations League matches are very important, as some coaches give players rest themselves. That would not have happened in a World Cup. France doesn't take it all that seriously. Just like England. You can bet that during the World Cup in Qatar later this year, you will see a completely different France.

[skarais]

It is very difficult to predict the matches of the UEFA Nations League. Because no team takes this tournament seriously. Especially the performance of renowned teams is very irregular. They are also losing against relatively weaker teams. And I've lost a lot of bets. The performances of renowned teams, in particular, have disappointed.

Turkey, Greece, Latvia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Norway, Denmark and several other teams look quite serious in this competition. They are unbeatable and that is proof that they are really serious.

Big teams like Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, France and England don't look good to choose from if you want to bet. They don't look serious in this competition because maybe the players are more concerned with the world cup or enjoying their holiday after the league is over. But maybe this is still the group stage, it will be different if they qualify for the next round.

[decodx]

Big teams like Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, France and England don't look good to choose from if you want to bet. They don't look serious in this competition because maybe the players are more concerned with the world cup or enjoying their holiday after the league is over. But maybe this is still the group stage, it will be different if they qualify for the next round.

As of now, three of the most prestigious national teams have only won one match all together after the first four rounds of the League of Nations. In fact, France, Italy and England, the world champions and the two finalists from the last EURO, are the biggest disappointment of this season so far. I think that these results only show how irrelevant the League of Nations is to big national teams.

[herurist]

In UEFA Nations I stopped betting because I have lost several times and this is inseparable from the poor performance of the leading teams here so I am now more comfortable watching than betting there
Regardless of how the individual performances there, their team's performance was still very lacking, especially in terms of finishing which made me frustrated to see some opportunities wasted.
with this result France sink to the bottom of the standings lol

@heruist it’s clear that the top stars are tired and that’s why they’re clearly underperforming for their national teams, and hence it’s not surprising to see that the favourite teams are losing. Also I hope that France doesn’t perform this way when the World Cup begins, because I’ll be disappointed if they crash out in World Cup due to such poor performances.

indirectly the match here is just a kind of test in tactics, the game and prioritizes several things such as making player rotations and giving young players a chance. because as you said in this match there is no guarantee that the big team will win because it only prioritizes the things I mentioned above rather than the results.
For example it is possible in Ligue A group 3 there in 3 matches Germany only produced 1 draw but in the 4th game they slaughtered Italy with a good composition.

[skarais]

As of now, three of the most prestigious national teams have only won one match all together after the first four rounds of the League of Nations. In fact, France, Italy and England, the world champions and the two finalists from the last EURO, are the biggest disappointment of this season so far. I think that these results only show how irrelevant the League of Nations is to big national teams.

We know that players may not want to own this competition, but it is a business that can be very profitable regardless of how the team finishes their campaign. Of course there are pros and contracts to this competition, but maybe the conditions will be different after some of these teams enter the next round as I said above.

I'm disappointed with France and England, but Spain and Portugal seem to be trying their best to reach the final again. Portugal, England, Spain and France have played in the final. They are also expected to get there this season but only Portugal and Spain seem likely.

[Pulsar77]

I absolutely agree that France don't even care about the Nations League now. I don't even give a chance to Croatia normally in a game like this.
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Denmark - Austria must be really worrying for you as two goals came very early in the game.  

Yeah, I was sweating until the end of the game because Denmark's attack was always looking dangerous whenever the ball was on Ericksen's feet! Did you see Ericksen's woodwork in the first 85 minutes? I was on the verge of passing out. BTW, it was a fantastic game, with both teams playing fantastic attacking football.

Yes it was really dangerous and I can really imagine you while that is happening.    Christian Eriksen is still a wonderful player and he continues to show this to us.

It is over in the Nations League for now and I can say that I enjoyed the games so far a lot. There have been many astonishing results and I have really not many words to say about them. This is just a tournament which includes so many kinds of results. Most of the teams that we can see as powerful ones are just playing without even caring about the games.

[snipie]

As of now, three of the most prestigious national teams have only won one match all together after the first four rounds of the League of Nations. In fact, France, Italy and England, the world champions and the two finalists from the last EURO, are the biggest disappointment of this season so far. I think that these results only show how irrelevant the League of Nations is to big national teams.

A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.

[nullama]

~snip~
A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.

Yeah, it's a bit random.

I think it's good practice for the teams that didn't qualify for the world cup, and other weaker teams.

For the big teams it just seems like a bit of a waste of time and energy that could be focused preparing for the big tournaments, or just resting really. Some teams have crazy schedules which end up lowering the performance of their players.