The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread

[shogun47]

England - Germany was a really special game tonight. I bet on both teams to score and it won comfortably thanks to England's awakening at one point. It looks like they needed to concede two goals due to simple mistakes (especially because of Maguire  ). After showing a high level of performance and bringing the score to 3-2 I thought that they deserved the win. But Germany's third goal was too simple after seeing England's high effort.

I still believe that this would be a morale booster for the players as they did a great thing despite drawing with Germany 3-3. It is a proof that they can score very easily when they really want the win. This will be important for them in the World Cup.

Well the message of this game is two-sided: Germany isn't ready yet defensively to play it smart and finish the game using their two goal advantage.

But it also shows that England is brutally strong offensively. Kane is ice cold when it comes to penalties and he is usually a safe scorer.

So Germany should have had the cleverness to take it home for sure and it would also have been a little boost to their confidence given their overall performance recently.

And for England it was a very positive signal making themselves aware of the fact that even if they are down two goals against a good national team, they have the quality to start a furious comeback. Of course luck does play a role, but that was kind of the situation for both teams. Many penalties can be avoided I think in general, but they are part of the game eventually.

[Davidvictorson]

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

The two goals for England weren't created from the 'right hand side of England's defence. I also noticed that James wasn't out of position, while also standing there and watching when they took the shots. On the other hand, I think the German team have to regain their form, their players are talented, but they are not working hard enough, look how sloppy and effortless they were in the 1st half.

[CryptocurencyKing]

I didn't expect this performance from England.

They played better football today than what we saw in their last game. Today's game gives the coach a good hint on how his world cup first eleven should look like for England. For Germany, although they equalized, If this is their world cup team and how they intend to play, It will take a streak of luck for them to get to the finals to even win the cup. Another thing was a fact also from the games today is that the Italian team would have caused an upset in the world cup had they qualified.

Go with you for your comments about England performance,there previous performance prior to this match was not encouraging at all, but today they improve a lot, I think that front three was complete class and they should start at the world cup games but what about Saka he should also be playing but having such competition is a good thing, what I observed in Southgate selection is that Philip going to Manchester city might course him his world cup place, another is between rashford and Sancho one of them or both of them might miss their tickets for the world cup if they don't improve.

England’s loss of form recently has been puzzling. Much has been made of Southgate’s formations and his supposed cautious outlook. There remains something to discuss there. But yesterday performance was an outstanding one and it was because Southgate made the right call starting the game with a proper Left back at the Wingback this time which gave them that balance to create more chances in the game. England played some attacking, incisive football that I haven’t seen in a while. If they keep up with this, the World Cup will be a favorable one for them.

[Minor Miner]

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

The two goals for England weren't created from the 'right hand side of England's defence. I also noticed that James wasn't out of position, while also standing there and watching when they took the shots. On the other hand, I think the German team have to regain their form, their players are talented, but they are not working hard enough, look how sloppy and effortless they were in the 1st half.

England's players scored three goals in just 12 minutes. After going 2-0 up, the German players probably thought they were going to win the match easily. But England is an experienced team. They took advantage of Germany's carelessness and scored three goals in a row to lead 3-2. After going 2-0 up, if the German players had tried to keep it tight, they might have won the match. Germany needs to strengthen its defense.

[Daniel91]

In fact, I don’t see anything wrong with this - when an underdog plays with additional motivation (and does not “lose before the game”), it is interesting for everyone - both teams and spectators (the best example is the Premier League). Another thing is that unexpected results in the League of Nations are a consequence of the fact that the favorites do not take this tournament seriously.
By the way, if France loses points again today, then it has a chance to take the last place in the group and go down in the league B. But France is one of the main favorites of the upcoming World Cup along with England.

This competition needs to be put into perspective. As many as 4 rounds of this competition were played in June, after the end of the league season, and many players came tired from a hard season and unmotivated.
The poor results of some favourites, such as England and France, in this competition do not really mean much because they do not show the real strength of these teams.
The World Cup will be a completely different story and all national teams will come fully prepared, although a big handicap for many teams will be the fact that there will be no time for preparatory matches.
That is why these two rounds are actually the last preparations of all European teams for the World Cup and this is currently the main focus of all national teams participating in the World Cup.
Of course, nobody wants to be the last in the group and fall into the lower class of the competition, so I believe that France will play a maximum serious game against Denmark today.

So you was wrong  Another shameful result from France and only thanks to Croatia they kept their place in League A. I don't even know how to comment on this - maybe France is really that bad and will fail in the World Cup? I'm not sure of anything anymore.
And I'm more and more thinking that FIFA and UEFA have produced a monstrous inflation in football - too many games, too many tournaments. A significant part of them can be removed and no one will grieve.

I still think that France played a serious match against Denmark, the best they could at the moment, but it was obviously not enough to win.
It's obvious that France has problems in its game and is not playing at the highest level.
Is the reason for this the problems in the relations between the players in the team, about which there are rumors, as well as the problems in the relations between the players and the coach?
We don't know the answer, but I wouldn't write France off too soon. It is a very good team with a lot of quality players, and there is still enough time until the world championship for the team to prepare well and raise the level of play.

[swogerino]

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

The two goals for England weren't created from the 'right hand side of England's defence. I also noticed that James wasn't out of position, while also standing there and watching when they took the shots. On the other hand, I think the German team have to regain their form, their players are talented, but they are not working hard enough, look how sloppy and effortless they were in the 1st half.

England's players scored three goals in just 12 minutes. After going 2-0 up, the German players probably thought they were going to win the match easily. But England is an experienced team. They took advantage of Germany's carelessness and scored three goals in a row to lead 3-2. After going 2-0 up, if the German players had tried to keep it tight, they might have won the match. Germany needs to strengthen its defense.

England played much better during the whole game as I saw the game carefully.The bad luck of England was McGuire making two errors which as a consequence was one penalty and one lost ball that both converted to goals from Germany.The third goal was an error from their goalkeeper and Germany had no merit for me,they played really badly yesterday.I am happy that I saw England scoring goals and playing that well yesterday after a terrible performance in their Nations League they had this year.

[cryptofrka]

I feel sorry for the Hungarians. They were so close to qualifying from an extremely difficult group and it would have been fully deserved if they did.
I did not watch the full game, but from the extended highlights they looked better than Italy, and definitely deserved at least a draw - that would have been enough for the top spot.

I really like Szoboszlai, he has enough potential to be a star in a top club.

[bct_ail]

I feel sorry for the Hungarians. They were so close to qualifying from an extremely difficult group and it would have been fully deserved if they did.
I did not watch the full game, but from the extended highlights they looked better than Italy, and definitely deserved at least a draw - that would have been enough for the top spot.

I really like Szoboszlai, he has enough potential to be a star in a top club.

Yes, I would have liked Hungary to stay in first place too. But they are 6 games and until the last day every team has its chance. Italy took their chance and now they are the ones in first place.
Italy played better from the start. With more pressure towards the goal. They could have even scored more than 1 goal in the first half. Hungary had a better start in the second half. But Donnarumma made some good saves. Hungary lost their accuracy ffter the second goal.

[Docnaster]

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

The two goals for England weren't created from the 'right hand side of England's defence. I also noticed that James wasn't out of position, while also standing there and watching when they took the shots. On the other hand, I think the German team have to regain their form, their players are talented, but they are not working hard enough, look how sloppy and effortless they were in the 1st half.

England didn't come out from no where, it wasn't a magic or a coincidence, it was a thoughtful act by the coach who made tactical and superb sub by introducing Mount and Saka. The presence of Saka changed the tempo of the game and set confusion in the German team that gave them the goals.

I also notice that Sterling was not a good pair with Kane, he was seeing overlapping several times and was not using the opportunity well.

[Boristhecat]

I don't know if you are right about Deschamps' position on the importance of the League of Nations, but if you are right it is a very dangerous position. After a series of failures in an "unimportant" tournament, fans will expect the team to perform not just better, but much better in an important tournament, and it seems to me that if France does not reach at least the semi-finals in the World Cup, this will lead to Deschamps being fired.
Even in an unimportant tournament, such star players, simply due to their level, should have better results than France currently has. This is a sign that the coach is doing something wrong.

if you were france's coach, you would say to your players: "play a lot seriously, we need to win" and at the end of the game 5 players get injured, and you as a coach even before that game you already had a large number of injured players, then the world cup arrives and you don't have good players to play with, would that be a good strategy? I do not think so! The best option is not to take this tournament seriously and save the players for the world cup, because the world cup is a serious competition where all teams will be taking it seriously. franca's coach is looking to the future and what is more important

Do you think that if players play seriously, they will definitely get injured? But this has nothing to do with reality. And, Ok, let's say Deschamps is afraid for his players, in which case why doesn't he call up the second/third squad to the national team for this unimportant tournament? It would make sense - they could play seriously and since they are not stars they would have the motivation to play very well to prove themselves.
If the players are called up to the national team, then they must show at least some minimum level of skill / game. France actually showed a result that is much worse than the "expected" result, even if we rate these games as friendly.

[MK-74]

England were the weakest link of the group, they only scored one in goal in five matches and they are playing the sixth one now, and they are losing 1-0 to Germany, if England have any respect for their fans they should at least score a goal today, I'm betting on them to score in this match, they didn't do a lot in this match but I think they can at least score @1.73, a decent bet I suppose.

I m even surprised seeing Germany scored 2 over England, and Italy 2 against Hungary I never expected this to be so but was wondering how England was given 1 zeros from my observation they aren't making move,  Germany plays more confidently without being in any pressure.

I knew that England wouldn't lose again that easily, they had to put up a show in the last match because we are getting closer to the world cup, it was a very exciting match even though they were playing for nothing, both teams were playing with no pressure and goals started raining at the end, I take England to score with 1.73 odds, it was worth it.

I think it was the most enjoyable game of the day. I enjoyed watching the game. Both teams played well.
I didn't expect this performance from England.

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

England are not a team to be underestimated, they just don't care about this league.
They know how to play well when they want to.  I'm sure we'll see a better England in the World Cup.

[Juggy777]

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

The two goals for England weren't created from the 'right hand side of England's defence. I also noticed that James wasn't out of position, while also standing there and watching when they took the shots. On the other hand, I think the German team have to regain their form, their players are talented, but they are not working hard enough, look how sloppy and effortless they were in the 1st half.

England didn't come out from no where, it wasn't a magic or a coincidence, it was a thoughtful act by the coach who made tactical and superb sub by introducing Mount and Saka. The presence of Saka changed the tempo of the game and set confusion in the German team that gave them the goals.

I also notice that Sterling was not a good pair with Kane, he was seeing overlapping several times and was not using the opportunity well.

I don’t understand why Southgate is making stupid decisions by playing Maguire, and not selecting Rashford and Sancho because these two will be wonderful addition for the team, and while Rashford is currently injured he should definitely be in the playing 11 when the World Cup starts.

England were the weakest link of the group, they only scored one in goal in five matches and they are playing the sixth one now, and they are losing 1-0 to Germany, if England have any respect for their fans they should at least score a goal today, I'm betting on them to score in this match, they didn't do a lot in this match but I think they can at least score @1.73, a decent bet I suppose.

I m even surprised seeing Germany scored 2 over England, and Italy 2 against Hungary I never expected this to be so but was wondering how England was given 1 zeros from my observation they aren't making move,  Germany plays more confidently without being in any pressure.

I knew that England wouldn't lose again that easily, they had to put up a show in the last match because we are getting closer to the world cup, it was a very exciting match even though they were playing for nothing, both teams were playing with no pressure and goals started raining at the end, I take England to score with 1.73 odds, it was worth it.

I think it was the most enjoyable game of the day. I enjoyed watching the game. Both teams played well.
I didn't expect this performance from England.

England came out of nowhere to give the fans a show, after Germany scored the first, i thought that England were done, and when they scored the 2nd i thought England are dead and how are they going to compete in the world cup with such terrible performance, but with this comeback, i can see that they can do something against big teams and i should not underestimate them.

England are not a team to be underestimated, they just don't care about this league.
They know how to play well when they want to.  I'm sure we'll see a better England in the World Cup.

Also Deschamps contract ends in 2022 so he’s anyway leaving, unless he’s asked to stay on for some more time but I feel that France should allow him to leave and get Zidane on board.

[Lordhermes]

With so many talented players on the roster, I felt awful for the England team. They are still unable to give the nation their best. I wonder what they'll say to the spectators during the World Cup in Qatar. I believe the manager needs to receive a stern warning for his team selection; he selects guys too emotionally. How in the world is Harry Maguire, a main bench player for Manchester United, doing for the England team? What a tragedy for the queen's team because they will play National League League B next year as a result of the outcomes from last night.

[boltz]

I felt really bad for England team, with so many talents in the team. They still can't give Their best for the country. I wonder what they will tell the fans for world cup in Qatar.  I think the manager should be warned seriously for his team selection, he's too sentimental in his Choice of players. How on earth is Harry Maguire doing in England team, a player that's chief bencher in Manchester united?
 With that results Last night, they will be playing league B next year National league, what a shame for the queen's team.

Many talents ? Hmm some of them are really over hyped in my opinion because last night it looked like Germany didn't want to force and still scored 3 goals ...when England really tried to win that game but in my opinion , they are nothing what they used to be on Euro 2021. Another low ranked statistic for England is that they score only 4 goals and 3 of them were last night and the previous 1 was against Germany as well and they couldn't score against Italy or Hungary ...

[Cryptmuster]

Recently, Ukraine has been playing very often with Scotland and there is no clear favorite in this confrontation, in two matches each of the teams won once, and scored 3 goals, while both games were in Glasgow. Now the game will be held in Krakow, this is not a big advantage for Ukryna, but it will also not be a native stadium for Scotland, which will somehow equalize the chances of the teams. it will be a match of the group leaders and we can say that it will be a match for the first place, but if a draw is enough for Scotland, then Ukraine needs only a victory...

[BitcoinAccepted]

This was a bizarre match. I can't remember seeing such a curious scoreline anywhere lately. If it is 0-0 at half time, you do not expect that the final score will eventually be 3-3. Actually, the chance was quite high that it would only be 1-1 or 0-0, for example. And that Germany also leads 0-2 and leads 3-3 within fifteen minutes is completely unimaginable, of course. fun for the spectators. Tonight we have Portugal Spain, I think that's the match most are looking forward to.

[Lordhermes]

If you're still expecting change or improvement from Southgate,then you should be ready to lose money on staking on England. Excerpt they sack Southgate and bring in new manager, that will bring in new ideas and tactics . Because Southgate can't deliver this team to any victory.  He doesn't need a chance at all, he should be sacked immediately or else, they will have themselves it he blame.  Most surprisedly thing he did, was to leave Sancho behind, Sancho that's on fire recently for players that are not consistent

[Jackl87]

This was a bizarre match. I can't remember seeing such a curious scoreline anywhere lately. If it is 0-0 at half time, you do not expect that the final score will eventually be 3-3. Actually, the chance was quite high that it would only be 1-1 or 0-0, for example. And that Germany also leads 0-2 and leads 3-3 within fifteen minutes is completely unimaginable, of course. fun for the spectators. Tonight we have Portugal Spain, I think that's the match most are looking forward to.

It was an absolutely weird game i agree and it was also extremely obvious that both of the teams are completely out of shape at the moment and that both of them don't have any confidence right now. I think England was better in the first half and would have deserved to score the lead there but Ter Stegen showed some good saves. Then in the second half Germany scored first and after that England seemed to be completely destroyed and Germany scored the 2-0 shortly after, but even then Germany was not able to get this 2-0 lead over the line and they brought England back into the game.

Also i have to say that the performance of Harry Maguire was one of the worst ones i have ever seen on that level. Not only did he make that big mistake and the foul that has caused the penalty for Germany. He also looked extremely slow and clumsy when having the ball in general. Like when he dribbled near the german box and lost the Ball and then it was 2-0. It really looked like he should play a few divisons lower. I have no idea how he could have ever had a market value of 70 M€ and now still has a value of 30 M€.

[hahay]

I just didn't think my choices were always the opposite, when I chose the team that won on paper or at least chose the majority but the result was that the unseeded team won. This happened for Italy, from the statistics that happened in this tournament so far at least Hungary was able to score a goal even though I chose Hungary but I expected both teams to score. But what happened was precisely the victory on paper and Hungary, which are basically mediocre teams in this match, all happened, so the minority lost but unfortunately this happened when I chose it.

[Altryist]

Italy is winning again, how the heck they got eliminated by the world cup?

I think that this question torments them themselves. They confidently beat the Hungarians, I said yesterday that for Italy it would not be a difficult task. It is a pity that they will not be at the World Cup, this is a loss for the tournament, but perhaps this will be a lesson for them for the future, not allow play-offs matches in the group stage, but to go straight into the final playoffs. I know this is easier said than done, but that's what you need to strive for.