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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC!  (Read 951179 times)
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April 19, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
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Trading this coin feels like a mexican standoff. Nobody wants to make the first move.

Its pretty obvious most UNO holders son't want to sell their coins this cheap, but:
A) either nobody wants them, or
B) people who want to buy them care very much about not raising price too fast and are very patient.

It feels strange trading in this market. Either the coin is dying, or it is preparing for something big... a high risk/reward scenario.

The bot owns the market right now.  People buy it up to .007 or even higher and the bot trades it right back down.  People sell it down to .005 and the bot buys it right back up.  I think it is safe to say someone is accumulating a ton of UNO by shaking out some long term holders and it is just a matter of time.  I suspect it won't be long, the volume has already dropped dramatically in the last week.

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April 19, 2014, 01:36:20 PM
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UNO is definitely not dying..... Grin
I agree that this is a strange market to trade in
Its a very special market
And no, we are not going to sell out coins this cheap

UNO will succeed because eventually the right people will own the coins at the right time and the price will rise exponentially
UNO traders are patient
What the UNO market does need is a new "generation" of supporters on top of the ones it has already...this will come if we help get the word out
We need the other coin traders to see the value that this coins holds!!!
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April 20, 2014, 12:25:34 AM
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Unobtanium on coingecko -

http://www.coingecko.com/

It's rare.  It's fair.  It's Unobtanium.
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April 20, 2014, 06:13:25 PM
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Can anyone here help me set up a 10.7gh/s asic v2 blade miner for Uno?

I've downloaded cgminer, powered up the blade and can open it's configuration page but unfortunately that's where my expertise ends!  Cool
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April 20, 2014, 11:44:32 PM
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Can anyone here help me set up a 10.7gh/s asic v2 blade miner for Uno?

I've downloaded cgminer, powered up the blade and can open it's configuration page but unfortunately that's where my expertise ends!  Cool

For help configuring your hardware, you might have better luck in one of the hardware support forum's.
There are quite a few good UNO mining pools you can check out. Two that come to mind:

un.coinmine.pl
Miningpool.co

Feel free to recommend other UNO pools.


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April 21, 2014, 02:34:21 AM
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For help configuring your hardware, you might have better luck in one of the hardware support forum's.
There are quite a few good UNO mining pools you can check out. Two that come to mind:

un.coinmine.pl
Miningpool.co

Feel free to recommend other UNO pools.
I did check the hardware forums first with no luck and was also surprised how little info the pools gave, although I did email a couple of them for help.

I was hoping there would be someone on this forum mining with the same gear who could point me in the right direction.

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April 21, 2014, 06:29:38 AM
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Can anyone here help me set up a 10.7gh/s asic v2 blade miner for Uno?

I've downloaded cgminer, powered up the blade and can open it's configuration page but unfortunately that's where my expertise ends!  Cool

You will need to use the stratum-mining-proxy to connect to Stratum pools such as miningpool.co.

The V2 blades only allow connection to a pushpool server.

The stratum-mining-proxy will allow you to connect a pushpool miner to a stratum server.

http://mining.bitcoin.cz/mining-proxy-howto
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April 21, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
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sellwall at 0.007 is too obvious fake. Remove it. thx

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April 21, 2014, 06:52:27 PM
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Cryptonator.com exchange rate website has added support for UNO... http://www.cryptonator.com/rates/UNO-BTC

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April 22, 2014, 10:19:05 AM
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UNO is definitely not dying..... Grin
I agree that this is a strange market to trade in
Its a very special market
And no, we are not going to sell out coins this cheap

UNO will succeed because eventually the right people will own the coins at the right time and the price will rise exponentially
UNO traders are patient
What the UNO market does need is a new "generation" of supporters on top of the ones it has already...this will come if we help get the word out
We need the other coin traders to see the value that this coins holds!!!

I am not worried and agree it is not dying, but there is definitely a lack of new interested traders. That combined with total dev inactivity (do we even have a statement on Heartbleed yet?) is at least a little bit worrying. I am certain we'll see at least one more pump sooner or later and I also expect its value to increase slowly but steadily over the next 12 months. In the long term (1 year and beyond) UNO needs more than that us collectors though to stay relevant.

I have a feeling if you'd create a UNO-clone today - same specs but as a rapid-mining PoW/PoS clone - markets would go berserk on that thing...
edit: not that I encourage such a thing, we're being spammed with Blackcoin clones as it is.

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April 22, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
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i had an idea. I want to tell you.

What if the unobtanium community was giving out trading-goals as a community for what price we try to reach? If we can reach consensus in the community for a minimum-value we think we can trade uno up to (doesn't need to be high - only needs to be met regularly and reliably).
We could be giving out a trading-goal every 3-6 months and always try to meet it. You can draw a staight ascending line (needs to be sustainable) in the charts to that value and point in time and trade torwards that line (up and down).
What are the benefits of this? I'll explain:
If we can do something like this uno would have achieved what other coins failed to do after many tries:
reduce volatility - not by technologic solutions or a centralized mechanism but manually done by the professional unotraders who frequently reach a consensus on what uno should be worth at a minimum at points in the future.  
This could raise appeal of uno to investors if we become known for meeting our goals and investors could invest into uno and its skilled traders that reliably meet their goals for growth and also reduce volatility.
That would put an end to the crazy uno-spikes and crashes and replace it with constant growth. I don't know if everybody agrees on if this is desirable or not. Please discuss.

I am a trained moderator for consensus-reaching in groups and could offer that skills if they are needed/helpful.  

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actually there is not changing much for the individual trader if we would do this - it would just be about finding out what the community overall thinks above what price uno will be trading at with relative certainty after x amount of time. We could then make a graph for everybody to see which can be used by the community as a voluntary guideline and as stated above if we manage to meet our own goals again and again that can be used for advertising uno to investors. Also if it works out and the community starts to trust the graphs and use it more the volatility will be reduced for sure which will also attract new money. I will be waiting for your reaction before i start to think this through in more depth.

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April 23, 2014, 02:49:21 AM
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I like it.

If we wanted to hold the current price, and given the current float, this would require the sum of participants to have a half-million USD worth of BTC to buy-and-hold any offer below the current price.  Sure, it could probably be done with as little as $5K worth of BTC or less, but the availability of the full capitalization, and the practice of holding the Un, guarantees the price is held.  (If not held, sold only above the target or ascending trendline - but then additional repurchase must still be guaranteed.)

No doubt better theories will follow....  Smiley
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April 23, 2014, 05:41:59 AM
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It's a good idea to start thinking and discussing strategies like this as Unobtanium is being rapidly mined out.  Something like 22 more tons (22,000) UNO available to mine before block 612,000.

It's rare.  It's fair.  It's Unobtanium.
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April 23, 2014, 08:18:32 AM
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i have to correct. 'Consensus' may not be needed. An opinionpoll may be just enough - i can calculate various things from the opinions. It will be important to get largest holders to participate especially. Those of you who know 'the wisdom of crowds' may see where i am going with this. I will present a well thought out opinionpoll to the community at some point in the future and give you probably good predictions based on the data afterwards.
If i can get mayority of holders to participate the prediction will actually proove reliable and helpful i think. I will report back when this thought has matured.

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April 23, 2014, 08:38:46 AM
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Good time to buy?  Or will we go lower?  Check out the autofilled Buy side of available Sell orders - over a half ton (500+) Unobtanium for ~ 4.25 BTC.

It's rare.  It's fair.  It's Unobtanium.
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April 23, 2014, 02:08:06 PM
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pictures from the battlefield

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April 23, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
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I just want to reiterate that I am not the UNO Dev. I'm part of the community. I own a lot of UNO. I love to trade UNO. I've been in the community since the coin started. I made out ok during the Wolong pump, and then bought back in.  Most of you who hang here know me. In real life I work for a software company, but I don't code.

First, I want to say that UNO is fine. It seems to be working fine, and there is no crisis that I am aware of. So there is no emergency situation here.  

But I agree with your concerns about the UNO Dev Team's long term commitment to UNO going forward. For example, there are a few basic issues with the UNO wallet that have bothered the community for quite a while that could have been addressed.  The fact that the wallet doesn't synch without editing the conf file with addnodes is a turn off to new UNO fans and could have been easily fixed a long time ago. There have been concerns posted here about what the Hearthbleed bug means, and how that relates to UNO.  Another question was raised about whether UNO was susceptible to the Timewarp attack. And is the Mac wallet working? It appears it is not (I'm not a Mac guy).

These are good questions that go to investor's confidence of UNO.

This month I reached out to the known Devs.  I began with Blazr3.  He told me clearly that he is no longer working on UNO, having turned the project over the JacobUX and his team.

I reached out to JacobUX early on. He made an appearance on this thread last month to post UNO graphics, but after several messages I haven't been able to get a reply from him. I see that he's still active on Bitcointalk working on 10-5 coin.  I know that his association with Wolong and Pandacoin have angered some people.  His silence on UNO I think shows that he has moved on now. I think JacobUX did a great job promoting UNO early on; he doesn't seem to be a Dev per se, more of a team manager. I hold no ill feelings for JacobUX. If he were to show up here again I would welcome him back with open arms.

Icanprogram was mentioned by Blazr3 as being part of JacobUX's team. I contacted icanprogram this month, and he WAS responsive and helpful. He updated some things on the Unobtanium.io website. I am appreciative to him for that.

But I am concerned that if a crisis should strike that UNO today might not have the help to respond promptly and decisively.

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April 23, 2014, 07:28:02 PM
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For the reasons outlined in my previous post, I have ben talking with some Devs who have experience with Altcoins about stepping in to do an update to the UNO wallet. I screened a few people, and chose the one I think could do the best job and who seemed most excited about working on UNO.  I hope to introduce you to him shortly after he's had time to set things up and look through the code.  

This is not a "hardfork" situation right now, and I don't see this as a hostile "takeover." I think of it mainly as an overdue maintenance job to fix up a few things, and a chance to get to know a new developer who might commit to UNO for the longer term to make new things possible for Unobtanium.

If you like this new developer's work and want him to continue on, then you should also reward him with a generous UNO tip. He wasn't rewarded with any kind of "pre-mine" on UNO (nobody was); your generosity will help him continue his work.  

When you meet this new Dev in the upcoming week or two, please welcome him to the community, and be generous if you appreciate his work and commitment to UNO. And thank you for your commitment.

FK




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April 23, 2014, 10:01:13 PM
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Great post FallingKnife. I guess a community takeover is an option, if none of the previous devs can be bothered to step in and address the issues raised. It has happened before and successfully too (in fact my other favourite coin besides UNO, KARM has just gone through this). Looking forward to meet the developer you mentioned.

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April 24, 2014, 03:11:18 AM
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Hi All,

I downloaded and installed the uno wallet/client v0.9.2.9(for mac) however it doesn't connect to uno networks. Any one can give me some help or point to a good thread. Much appreciated.
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