[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[FallingKnife]

That is good news about BitcoinCommodities! Uno has a lot of precious metals enthusiasts. It should be a good fit. Welcome, @2weiX.

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[IMZ]

@ 2weiX:  

Bitcoin National mentions purchasing merchants' Uno at 'no-slippage' rates. This project is underway (at Cryptoguild.com); and although it will be a good while before we have a sufficient 'kitty'/band of benefactors to easily handle large purchases, the eventual benefits will be great for all Unobtanium stakeholders.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

[FallingKnife]

Unobtanium.uno has been updated by your webdev, Learminer.

Added live pricing for DASH and NXT.
Removed pricing for NAUT.

Added link to new Cointopia.co.nz market.


Tips for the web developer: uewrE9QWc54EXjCZehWDPkjqgsyRDpQmK8

[BitcoinNational]

"Eventually, I believe Dash will position itself as a direct competitor to Bitcoin. In the meantime, Bitcoin enjoys a monopoly more or less on the space, which is unhealthy. For example, if the only crypto-currency in use is Bitcoin and it has an issue, the entire crypto-economy would be affected, burning the vast majority of it’s users. However, if there are 5 or 10 crypto-currencies in common use, it will reduce the systemic risk on the sector as a whole and make it safer for everyone."  evan-duffield

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/evan-duffield-dash-darkcoin-dash-will-position-direct-competitor-bitcoin/

 if there are 5 or 10 crypto-currencies in common use, it will reduce the systemic risk on the sector as a whole and make it safer for everyone

Well let's try to list the possible BIG TEN

T1 = btc ltc dash ^{[sorry ripple and stellar are not crypto they are another kettle of fish called centralization]}
T2 = bts nxt cp nrs(PP) msc nem qora crypti ether ^{*sidechain platforms}
T3 = doge mona note name monero byte start ^{*$M alt networks but high inflation}
T4 = xpy arch black shadow clams fair? veri fuel rdd mint^{[pure pos still have alot to prove before being loaded with Billion values, still a maybe class]}
T5 = uno darknote nova ix cann ^{*low inflation}
T6 = digi, sys, ftc, world, mega, vtc, vnl ^{*high inflation}

I've high lighted 7 that are nearly sure contenders for THE BIG TEN crypto-currencies in common use.
Also, note that UNO is not defined as a "common use currency".  Rather UNO is a store of value commodity.

But as a side affect of +8 months of proven store of value, UNO is a very real contender to achieve the title of  "common use currency".

Case in point look at the last 10 days of UNO's chart .... nice and flat ... and stability is what  defines "common use currency".  If this trend continues then UNO will be definitively more stable than BTC, plus bullish not stuck in an 18-month bear market.

How to achieve THE BIG TEN?

The way we are going at it.  Turtle power!
Post strong buy support in the books and don't use all your btc-liquidity to push up the price.  The long goal is maintaining the bottom line.  And in this last down cycle this method has come together organically and shown excellent strength.  

[IMZ]

"Post strong buy support in the books and don't use all your btc-liquidity to push up the price."

I have so much to learn, B.N.; but I am learning everyday. Right now: Jesse Livermore.

"The desire for constant action irrespective of underlying conditions is responsible for many losses in Wall Street even among the professionals"

Guild members don't make this error. We are patient and careful, putting down deep roots.

IMZ Mark

[BitcoinNational]

"We are patient and careful"

Personally I am moving towards a strategy of bids that require 7-15 days to be filled.  And hopefully not filled at all.  In that case I take one step up.   That is the patient part.

The careful part is to study the UNO chart as often as you can.  The more experience I get with reading charts the more elegant in simplicity the UNO chart becomes.  The UNO price is very predictable albeit long cycles, if 60-120days is what we call long in crypto.

So, if the current bid patterns of strong 'low bidding' become habitual for a few hardcore HODLrs then this will also attract new investors that not only raise the daily/weekly spot prices but also place competitive low bids to help build an unbreakable wall of support.  Now add the CG coretanium/merchantium programs and the UNO future becomes very clear.

ps ... potatoheads dumping 500kg packets ... that's 66days of mining output in a click ... foolish ... or bacon on the floor for those smart enough to have strong bottom line bids.

*dumping 500kg is like dumping 237600btc in one drop = $53,460,000
**and UNO has survived now at least 8 +500kg drops ... btc would be trading @$20 if hit with power dumps like that in repetition ... UNO is built to stand strong.

[Gekko463]

Sombody just took a huge dump into the .01033 buy wall on Cryptsy.

Does anyone have any thoughts on Neucoin? http://www.neucoin.org/en/

At first glance POS (as in piece of shit AND Proof of Stake) pre-mined + IPO coin (28 April).

At second glance, lots of big names. Angel funded and nobody in it is anonymous.

Jackson Palmer.  Executives from über, Facebook, candy crush...

I am conflicted.  It is the opposite of why we like Uno, yet I have a strange desire to own some at the IPO.

[Tacktic]

"We are patient and careful"

Personally I am moving towards a strategy of bids that require 7-15 days to be filled.  And hopefully not filled at all.  In that case I take one step up.   That is the patient part.

The careful part is to study the UNO chart as often as you can.  The more experience I get with reading charts the more elegant in simplicity the UNO chart becomes.  The UNO price is very predictable albeit long cycles, if 60-120days is what we call long in crypto.

So, if the current bid patterns of strong 'low bidding' become habitual for a few hardcore HODLrs then this will also attract new investors that not only raise the daily/weekly spot prices but also place competitive low bids to help build an unbreakable wall of support.  Now add the CG coretanium/merchantium programs and the UNO future becomes very clear.

Even in stawks 60-120 days nowadays is called "long term" hehe
With Algos (allegedly not illegally) front running the market, taking and reselling bids.
(one mans cheating seems to be another’s tactical advantage
Long term at some places is an hour hehe.
My point of difference is exactly this I dont have to turnover a years wages everyday.
Once a year is fine.
...........................
In crypto sphere.
If you think crypto is here to stay, long is the way ahead.
trading in and out to increase your pile is good if your temperament suits.
Patience is the key.
We dont battle algos...yet... but we do battle bots, programmed to pick the flesh from their teeth after eating you alive.
If just here to trade and try your luck, different setups and different thought process.
.......................
Me,
I like turtles.
They are slow, steady and hard to move, rock hard outside and live a long time.
Have a good day guys,
Tacktic.

[rojan]

Does anyone have any thoughts on Neucoin? http://www.neucoin.org/en/

Neucoin is on my radar - and been going back and forth on it too.  The pre-mine has clear purpose.  Also - the 5 year HODL restriction should have a positive overall effect.  I think it has a shot if new users enjoy experience of quickly and easily learning to pay for content they consume with crypto.  My biggest question is - price fluctuation between purchases like for a recurring $1.00 equivalent monthly payment.  Though maybe this isn't as big of a deal for micro-payments niche?

[balu2]

Sombody just took a huge dump into the .01033 buy wall on Cryptsy.

Does anyone have any thoughts on Neucoin? http://www.neucoin.org/en/

At first glance POS (as in piece of shit AND Proof of Stake) pre-mined + IPO coin (28 April).

At second glance, lots of big names. Angel funded and nobody in it is anonymous.

Jackson Palmer.  Executives from über, Facebook, candy crush...

I am conflicted.  It is the opposite of why we like Uno, yet I have a strange desire to own some at the IPO.

your red flags:
-huge premine
-no ANN at this forum
-read fineprint on "democracy"
-IPO
-shit name
-huge POS interest (no need to hurry, there will be plenty of endless dumping for the next 10 years)

I'll buy novacoin or nautiluscoin before that.

Do they provide any proof for their claims of partnerships?
Their premine will be staking too, right? If so it's not only a bad deal for investors in case the interest from the premine will be sold, additionally the blockchain isn't even trustworthy. I think they didn't announce here because too many questions they prefer not to answer right now. I have seen this whole thing somewhere before  

Personally not buying this but thanks for the intel. Good luck to you guys who plan on buying in.


@dump
Looks like a bear attack to me with the goal of rebuying lower. Risky business.  

[2weiX]

@ 2weiX:  

Bitcoin National mentions purchasing merchants' Uno at 'no-slippage' rates. This project is underway (at Cryptoguild.com); and although it will be a good while before we have a sufficient 'kitty'/band of benefactors to easily handle large purchases, the eventual benefits will be great for all Unobtanium stakeholders.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Ahoy,

Right now I am using bitpayments' "direct convert" feature, to be honest. as a PM dealer I need to restock in EUR in Europe, and I need to do so with a certain certainty^^

[Gekko463]

@balu2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=944933.0

They did announce here.

At the very least, Jackson Palmer has discussed his involvement in Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/33hdvo/feedback_needed_neucoin_distribution_to_dogecoin/

I have no reason to doubt the others as it's been pretty well covered in the press and somebody would have denied it.

They have not posted their source code.

All of the other points you made are valid.

I have decided to enter cautiously with $1000.

I can lose a grand.

25% at the IPO
25% at the launch (or I might dump at launch)
25% after the initial dump.
25% for trading after initial dump

The sale restriction is not very restrictive: 2% per month means they can dump 24% of their position in a year and be out in 4 years.  The staking may disincentivize that though.  It is a strange animal.

Then I will hold onto and stake and forget about it for 10 years.

It seems more like a bond than a stock.

[balu2]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=944933.0

They did announce here.

At the very least, Jackson Palmer has discussed his involvement in Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/33hdvo/feedback_needed_neucoin_distribution_to_dogecoin/

I have no reason to doubt the others as it's been pretty well covered in the press and somebody would have denied it.

They have not posted their source code.

All of the other points you made are valid.

I have decided to enter cautiously with $1000

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25% at the IPO
25% at the launch (or I might dump at launch)
50% after the initial dump.

Then I will hold onto and stake and forget about it for 10 years.

It seems more like a bond than a stock.

True, they announced here.
Too early for me to decide on any longterm positions. Maybe i'll daytrade a swing or two before the network starts making trouble.  
Watching from a distance for now.  

I don't mind paying a little more for reduced risks later in case it's going places. I'm waiting for the people to investigate and dig up all the scammy things and cosmetic faults like they always do.  

I'll decide if i want to buy the first fud-wave later or not  
In 14 days there will be a thread or two here at altsection explaining to you why neucoin is a scam. (quaranteed this thread will appear, it always does)
I'm deciding after reading that future scam-accusation-thread  
(trying to keep risks minimal)

Thanks for pointing out Gekko, definitely interesting to watch.

edit: @neucoin - at the very least 15 million $ cap at launch. So we are buying this at a cap of 15 mln with a 50%+ premine just because of promises and some team members? Really?

Here is your delivery of popcorn  



wow! 86% for them! And a HUGE 3% of the coins for the 'cryptocommunity' to buy in presale. How nice! Hahahaha.

Let's buy Marinecoin too!!! lmao

[Gekko463]

@balu2:  I am neither pitching not endorsing this coin.

I am soliciting exactly what you've given me.

The discussion is only relevant to this thread insofar as it is exactly the opposite of everything we love about UNO, yet, it is giving me tingles.

I am exploring that feeling the same way as a straight man, at the end of the world, might think.  There are only 3 people left:  you, Johnny Depp and Angela Merkle.

What are ya gonna do on your last Saturday night?

Johnny's looking good to me at that point.

[IMZ]

@ 2weiX:  

Bitcoin National mentions purchasing merchants' Uno at 'no-slippage' rates. This project is underway (at Cryptoguild.com); and although it will be a good while before we have a sufficient 'kitty'/band of benefactors to easily handle large purchases, the eventual benefits will be great for all Unobtanium stakeholders.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Ahoy,

Right now I am using bitpayments' "direct convert" feature, to be honest. as a PM dealer I need to restock in EUR in Europe, and I need to do so with a certain certainty^^

Hey, 2weiX! Oh, this project is in its early early early phase -- but it will eventually be a viable option. Let's chat then.

[prominerone]

@dump
Looks like a bear attack to me with the goal of rebuying lower. Risky business.  
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Yeah looks like a little   bear dump . And you are absolutely right that is a risky business for the little polar bears. This 300 kilograms that I catch is basically  disappear in the Bermuda Triangle  on Blueman  . It is delicious. deluded little polar bears for breakfast. Awesome. Congrats to others who catches that.
400 kilos more need for the rest of the trap waiting for you my little sweet bear!

Project:  /BlueMan The Bermuda Triangle/.   I love it.

[Gekko463]

@dump
Looks like a bear attack to me with the goal of rebuying lower. Risky business.  

Is that you sitting there?

Personally, I would take that first bite as an indication that somebody wants this price to go lower.

That means that they are interested, invested in it.  They need it to go up as much as we do.

So you have two choices as I see it.  3 if just sitting there is a choice.

Get the fuck out of the way and go buy down there whereever they are taking it, to whatever depths of hell are evidently well funded in Uno in nefarious hands and is totally possible.  Go with "them".  You have to dig roller coasters.

Or, raise your price sitting on the bid there and get a bit more uno dust in your final buy, but higher than you would pay if you got out of the way and bought lower.  Sit there, if you think that will scare them away.

I would get the fuck out of the way.

Save my dry ammo for another battle, cheaper.

But that's me, and I am not sitting there.  Good luck soldier.  I am long, but ready to weather this.

[prominerone]

Yeah Geko I know that they , you, and some of you want to go lower and some volatility. But I don't care to buy cheaper than that. I am perfectly comfortable in my position there. If they want to go lower they must first pay the price: and say goodbye to their Uno. Who's  doing it must know that they lose blue amo forever,not only me.

[prominerone]

I am not interested to  accumulate BTC or fiat. It is very obtainable. Very easy. I am interested to obtain  The Rare. So are you?

Well you can sitting  and watch. But  are you remember when I buy some walls back there up to 0.008and 0.01 ? I never sory for that. So in some time going to be the same difference soon with the current price. You can mark my words!
As BW said Uno never go back or lower. It's different Conception. Different from anything else.  That's why we all love it   The potential of Unobtanium is endless. It is not a regular coin to be dumped.

I am happy with my tactics to put buy orders a bit lower than current price! And buy the dust with Mark. From my experience that works very well. And it's offering very good effect on Stability and price. Steady and slow moving up.
There no need to be a excellent trader - just you need to have right tactics and vision. But that is me. Feel free to dump Blue  on me. That's why i am here

ProBlueMan.

[FallingKnife]

I am not interested to  accumulate BTC or fiat. It is very obtainable. Very easy. I am interested to obtain  The Rare. So are you?

I am in agreement.

I have long explored the world of rare coins.  Among rare coins, Uno is rare. It is the most successful, honest, vetted, established, fair rare coin of all.

The most recent is LMR, which promised 100k coins total. The dev is gone and LMR is already way over 100k coins and still making more.

AMK, 1 coin, one of BW's projects.  A little too rare for my taste, but it has its fans. Not traded, afaik.
21, dead and buried. Lots of it lost in Cryptorush hack (rumored)
23Skidoo, one of Blazrs cool ideas, still has a dedicated core, running without problems, but painfully slow production. Traded. Hope here.
42, traded, but no dev and wallet problems. Once famous, it is now hanging on and trading for a tiny fraction of prior worth.
66, has a dedicated core group still, tiny community, still traded. Some hope here, but nearly mined out.
84, can't get the wallet run. Might still be alive, who knows. Not traded. Lots of it lost on Palth.net hack (rumored).
Kashmircoin, 1k coins, community picking it up after dev left and big POS technical problems. Not traded.
Synch, 1k coins, but has POS so not truly 1k coins. Still holds a little market value though.
LMR, 100k coins but scam, already beyond 100k. Dev walked away.
MCR, 200k coins, totally dead, even after attempted revival.
ASR, 200k coins, totally dead. Shit wallet, failed fork.
BTB, 500k coins eventually, about 10k per year; failed launch, low numbers but high inflation for years to come.

and on and on...

And then there is Unobtanium, the most successful rare coin. Uno is the one that made it and is still making it.  When you own Uno, you know what you own.  If you like rarity, scarcity, and low inflation, then you have to like Uno. There's just nothing else like it that is viable.