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August 18, 2021, 05:00:50 PM
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The issue with the current bunch of vaccines is that even two doses won't give you lasting immunity. You need to take a third (booster) dose after 6-12 months, and this need to be repeated until the pandemic is contained.
Oh, I'm so done with getting vaccinated (and mask-wearing, too).  At the end of the day, most people who get infected with COVID-19 have mild symptoms and recover, and I think governments all over the world are still in a state of overreaction to something that just isn't as deadly as the media makes it sound.  It pisses me off to no end that Youtube censors free discussion about the pandemic or anything about coronavirus.

For the pharmaceutical companies, this pandemic is proving to be a goldmine. 
For some of them, anyway.  You mentioned Pfizer, but they also make a lot of other drugs, whereas Moderna doesn't.  And the vaccine gravy train isn't going to keep rolling on forever unless we start getting deadlier mutations of the coronavirus.  If that happens, I'd have a little less reluctance to get booster shots and such.

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August 18, 2021, 05:05:38 PM
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Lost of people takes Vaccines from various companies I have to take Mordona fast doze. I think people will recover after taking the booster dose so we have to wait to see the completion of the vaccine. after 1 year we will see a free world we are expecting this situation.
They won't recover from this but they will be able to alleviate the symptoms of the virus so it doesn't become fatal, you will still be able to get the virus but if you completed the vaccine doses, you're already good to go although some caution needs to be taken because there's people that haven't been vaccinated yet so they might be infected because you can still be a carrier.

You are very right most of the people dont know this . They thought that they are immune there are still chances that you can get infected but it has a high possibility that it wouldn't be fatal since you've been vaccinated. Though what the risk in this is that you are the carrier which is asymptomatic and you cant feel anything, the best solution with this is all of us should get vaccinated and get the herd immunity so that our economy will be fully open again
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August 18, 2021, 05:05:50 PM
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Lost of people takes Vaccines from various companies I have to take Mordona fast doze. I think people will recover after taking the booster dose so we have to wait to see the completion of the vaccine. after 1 year we will see a free world we are expecting this situation.

1 year is not enough to make all people on this world to be vaccinated, there are some people in some countries who didn't to be vaccinated and these people are spreading virus to another people and make this pandemic last longer. So i think this pandemic is will still there even for next 5 years until it becomes a normal deasease just like flu and we have to wait until the doctors found the generic medicine of this virus for sale freely in the market or grocery
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August 19, 2021, 11:00:37 AM
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many people ask about vaccine in my place, after gov get some of it, many poeple reject because they afraid about side effect. and the distribution is just on big city, hidden village cant get this stuff. in some village, they agree to not use vaccine, and when they got covid, they just ignore because they really dont know about this one until all of family infected. in a fact, they just recover like dont have any problem
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August 19, 2021, 11:09:13 AM
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Up to now, it has been nearly 2 years since the first case of covid19 was detected in Wuhan City, the whole world is struggling with the context of a severe economic crisis, recession of life, daily life and work security of people in each country.

When the vaccine was produced, some countries considered it to be an effective remedy to save the world from extinction and until new variants were born Delta, Lambda... the destruction increased. . All that is faced is a wound for any citizen.

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August 19, 2021, 01:41:17 PM
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Up to now, it has been nearly 2 years since the first case of covid19 was detected in Wuhan City, the whole world is struggling with the context of a severe economic crisis, recession of life, daily life and work security of people in each country.

When the vaccine was produced, some countries considered it to be an effective remedy to save the world from extinction and until new variants were born Delta, Lambda... the destruction increased. . All that is faced is a wound for any citizen.

We have to live side by side with covid-19 because we don't know when this will be over with the vaccine, it doesn't determine that this outbreak will disappear because for those who have been vaccinated it is only to maintain immunity, but indeed some are rejecting this because of some distrust its citizens.

No wonder the economic crisis in life will be bigger and every continent will experience the same thing from this effect, therefore if we continue to just sit at home without doing anything we will still die, therefore it is better to live side by side by implementing the system on immune system to maintain immunity.
In my country, almost 70% of its citizens have been forced by the government.

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August 19, 2021, 02:02:01 PM
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A lot of citizens in my country got vaccinated also. And a lot are getting back to "work from work/office/etc". It might look that we have won. He have vaccine, number of cases decreased, life is getting back to normal. But this week news sites started to post covid case statistics again and the numbers started to increase.

This looks identically to previous year. A lot of cases in autumn, winter and spring, and a huge reduction in summer. I have a prediction that in October-November everything will start again. After one year of covid nothing has changed...

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August 19, 2021, 06:47:19 PM
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Up to now, it has been nearly 2 years since the first case of covid19 was detected in Wuhan City, the whole world is struggling with the context of a severe economic crisis, recession of life, daily life and work security of people in each country.

When the vaccine was produced, some countries considered it to be an effective remedy to save the world from extinction and until new variants were born Delta, Lambda... the destruction increased. . All that is faced is a wound for any citizen.

Well.. right now the only effective remedy is to get yourself vaccinated. In the US, unvaccinated account for 99.5% of the deaths from COVID. Do you still want to argue that the vaccines are not effective? You may still contract COVID even after receiving both the doses of the vaccine. But the chances of hospitalization and death may be 100 or 200 times lower when compared to the unvaccinated individuals. And this is true for the mutated strains as well. Unless we have a better and safer option, I would consider vaccination as the only remedy available.
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August 20, 2021, 09:59:18 AM
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Yes, it already kills many people from different countries. Though there are already vaccines that was developed it still continues to spread. And also not all people can get vaccinated easily that may still take few moths to make at least 75% of population be vaccinated because:
1. The production of vaccines, it needs to provide millions of vaccines a day and also it needs to distribute it, that may take time.
2. Some people are hesitant to be vaccinated because of fake news and some health conditions
3. When a vaccines were developed a new variant of virus exist.   

 Yeah that's the 3 reason why the virus spread all the country . Some are scared because they are not satisfied of the Vaccines due on what they heard from the news, online, and opinion from the people source

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August 20, 2021, 10:02:41 AM
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and soon, this pandemic has been running for almost 2 years.  Vaccination programs in many countries have been running and i see the decline in positive victims has started but there is something disturbing that is this virus continues to mutate and create new variants.  we really fight a smart virus.

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August 22, 2021, 04:07:25 AM
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Up to now, it has been nearly 2 years since the first case of covid19 was detected in Wuhan City, the whole world is struggling with the context of a severe economic crisis, recession of life, daily life and work security of people in each country.

When the vaccine was produced, some countries considered it to be an effective remedy to save the world from extinction and until new variants were born Delta, Lambda... the destruction increased. . All that is faced is a wound for any citizen.

Well.. right now the only effective remedy is to get yourself vaccinated. In the US, unvaccinated account for 99.5% of the deaths from COVID. Do you still want to argue that the vaccines are not effective? You may still contract COVID even after receiving both the doses of the vaccine. But the chances of hospitalization and death may be 100 or 200 times lower when compared to the unvaccinated individuals. And this is true for the mutated strains as well. Unless we have a better and safer option, I would consider vaccination as the only remedy available.
You can't argue with that, vaccines are effective, even if you get infected as a vaccinated person, chances are, that you'll go through it pretty mildly.

I've been in close contact with a confirmed case, a friend of mine 24 years old, he was unvaccinated and now has quite severe symptoms. I'm vaccinated and didn't get infected, despite being in close contact.

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August 22, 2021, 04:29:18 AM
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A lot of citizens in my country got vaccinated also. And a lot are getting back to "work from work/office/etc". It might look that we have won. He have vaccine, number of cases decreased, life is getting back to normal. But this week news sites started to post covid case statistics again and the numbers started to increase.

This looks identically to previous year. A lot of cases in autumn, winter and spring, and a huge reduction in summer. I have a prediction that in October-November everything will start again. After one year of covid nothing has changed...

The infection patterns may be tracing the same patterns as before, but one thing that is different is that there are more variations of the virus circulating through the population and we know that Delta is far more contagious than previous versions.  Luckily, the Delta variant doesn't seem to be more lethal, but who knows how much more deadly the virus can become with continued mutations.

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August 22, 2021, 07:44:00 AM
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  Coronavirus is the most killer virus that spread around the world . People scared and frustrate on this problem that in everyday have a new list of affected of covid-19  otherwise hundreds of people die in everyday. People empower to go back the new normal life, and do the precautionary measurements to avoid and prevent the covid-19 virus.

Yes, it already kills many people from different countries. Though there are already vaccines that was developed it still continues to spread. And also not all people can get vaccinated easily that may still take few moths to make at least 75% of population be vaccinated because:
1. The production of vaccines, it needs to provide millions of vaccines a day and also it needs to distribute it, that may take time.
2. Some people are hesitant to be vaccinated because of fake news and some health conditions
3. When a vaccines were developed a new variant of virus exist.   
case number 2 is a case that often occurs in my place. The rapidly growing use of social media makes fake news about vaccines spread quickly. This problem certainly hampers the government's performance to stop this pandemic. I really wonder why they trust fake news created by irresponsible people more than the government.
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August 22, 2021, 09:27:52 AM
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Yes, it already kills many people from different countries. Though there are already vaccines that was developed it still continues to spread. And also not all people can get vaccinated easily that may still take few moths to make at least 75% of population be vaccinated because:
1. The production of vaccines, it needs to provide millions of vaccines a day and also it needs to distribute it, that may take time.
2. Some people are hesitant to be vaccinated because of fake news and some health conditions
3. When a vaccines were developed a new variant of virus exist.   
case number 2 is a case that often occurs in my place. The rapidly growing use of social media makes fake news about vaccines spread quickly. This problem certainly hampers the government's performance to stop this pandemic. I really wonder why they trust fake news created by irresponsible people more than the government.
trace where the source of the news came from, after that the person who made and spread the news must be punished with the applicable provisions. I don't understand the mindset of the person who made the news. what is the purpose? then what is the advantage for them?
This kind of person is very dangerous (same as corruptors) because his actions can indirectly kill many people.

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At the start of coronavirus last year There was fear and worry everywhere. The entire world suffers from this pandemic disease. Many causalities happened and a lot of problems has to face . There was no such example before of the speedy spread of disease in the world. But now after one year, the coronavirus has decreased and is under control at a limit. The vaccine had also added some betterment and confidence among the people. Now it is hoped that this disease will come under control soon with the grace of God.

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The pandemic period is still going on. Many people in the world lost their jobs and they had no choice rather than looking for new adventures. Covid-19 hasn't been good for people but it has been very good for the cryptocurrency market. Because we have seen a bull market in this period. Bitcoin went over $60k.

Now, there are vaccines and people are getting vaccinated every day. But not all of the vaccines are very much effective against the variants. So, it is still hard to predict whether this virus will be gone forever soon.

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August 22, 2021, 12:01:05 PM
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Now, there are vaccines and people are getting vaccinated every day. But not all of the vaccines are very much effective against the variants. So, it is still hard to predict whether this virus will be gone forever soon.

There is a difference between efficacy and protection against hospitalization and death. For example, a recent study found that the Pfizer vaccine is only 42% effective against the delta variant. But the same study found that those who got two doses of the Pfizer vaccine are 200 times less likely to die from the infection. So these two needs to be distinguished. On the other hand we have the Chinese vaccines (Sinopharm and Sinovac), which are neither effective, nor offers any protection from hospitalization.
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August 22, 2021, 12:06:06 PM
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  Coronavirus is the most killer virus that spread around the world . People scared and frustrate on this problem that in everyday have a new list of affected of covid-19  otherwise hundreds of people die in everyday. People empower to go back the new normal life, and do the precautionary measurements to avoid and prevent the covid-19 virus.

Yes, it already kills many people from different countries. Though there are already vaccines that was developed it still continues to spread. And also not all people can get vaccinated easily that may still take few moths to make at least 75% of population be vaccinated because:
1. The production of vaccines, it needs to provide millions of vaccines a day and also it needs to distribute it, that may take time.
2. Some people are hesitant to be vaccinated because of fake news and some health conditions
3. When a vaccines were developed a new variant of virus exist.   
case number 2 is a case that often occurs in my place. The rapidly growing use of social media makes fake news about vaccines spread quickly. This problem certainly hampers the government's performance to stop this pandemic. I really wonder why they trust fake news created by irresponsible people more than the government.
first time know about vaccine, people ready to take of virus from their life. when the vaccine ready, people already get used to the situation, and like what you said before. its mean people dont care about virus, they just go around, break the rules, and live a life like no virus anymore
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August 22, 2021, 12:51:15 PM
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first time know about vaccine, people ready to take of virus from their life. when the vaccine ready, people already get used to the situation, and like what you said before. its mean people dont care about virus, they just go around, break the rules, and live a life like no virus anymore

And that is the reason why we are getting so many new cases among the fully vaccinated. Vaccines have a very low efficacy rate against the delta variant. There is a good chance of getting infected even if you have received two doses of the vaccine. So it is best to carry on with all the precautions and social distancing protocols even after receiving two doses of the vaccine. The danger is not over yet and no one should be fooled by a false sense of security, even if they have received two doses of the vaccine. BTW, the third booster dose is already in the pipeline.
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August 22, 2021, 03:11:46 PM
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Unfortunately, so far this vaccine has only been produced and will be available for the first time in April, after which it will be distributed to support other countries.  In addition to some countries that have produced vaccines with high antibacterial rates such as the US, Germany, UK, Australia, China ... etc., the rest are still in the research process.  However, variants of covid19 are always cloned and the infection rate of variants like Delta, Lambda is very fast.  It makes the epidemic even more intense.  Vaccine delivery cannot respond effectively to new variants.  It is still on alert.  I think it will take a long time for the world to return to normalization and even then the process of restoring the economy, society, and trade is a very difficult problem.
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