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[NeuroticFish]

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

Hm, I don't see that appeal to be ending in a success if there just wasn't enough fuel in the tank. I would be quite surprised because that's just an objective measurement which has to be in conformity with the rules right? If they appeal now, are they seriously appealing that the amount of fuel was measured wrongly? Or are they arguing on moral grounds?

They weren't saying that it was enough fuel. What they were saying is that the sensors have shown that there's enough fuel.

Since the team's data indicated that there was more than 1.0 litre of fuel in the car after the race – 1.74 litres according to the data

As much as I'd like to see Seb getting that place #2, I don't have much hopes for the decision get reverted.

[mv1986]

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

Hm, I don't see that appeal to be ending in a success if there just wasn't enough fuel in the tank. I would be quite surprised because that's just an objective measurement which has to be in conformity with the rules right? If they appeal now, are they seriously appealing that the amount of fuel was measured wrongly? Or are they arguing on moral grounds?

They weren't saying that it was enough fuel. What they were saying is that the sensors have shown that there's enough fuel.

Since the team's data indicated that there was more than 1.0 litre of fuel in the car after the race – 1.74 litres according to the data

As much as I'd like to see Seb getting that place #2, I don't have much hopes for the decision get reverted.

Yes I got that but what I was saying is how in the world could the referees wrongly measure the leftover fuel? That sounds too amateurish to be true in my opinion. Interestingly though what are they going to do when it is word against word? Who knows if it is even possible to prove in the aftermath which data is wrong? If Aston Martin's data says X and the other data says Y, Aston Martin would probably not manipulate their data just for a podium with no chances for anything else this season.

[boltz]

Like as all know FIA , it won't be reversed and they already moved over the decision. However, the good part for Aston Martin still remains as for them they have 2 podiums in 2nd place as their first year in F1 under the brand of Aston Martin which is pretty great so far so maybe until the end of the F1 calendar, we might see an Aston Martin on podium again.

[rdbase]

After almost three weeks off F1 is back in gear this coming weekend so let's get to it!
The Belgium Grand Prix on the Spa-Francorchamps track.


Practice 1: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/practice-1/practice-1-61239a032558e164d6daf9aa

Qualification: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/qualification/qualification-6123999079852a8fbb37b090

Final Race: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-61078688f1a4ddd0a5148cf0

[boltz]

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

[Koal-84]

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

I don't think the problem is that no one wants to post anything (even though it was an excellent qualifying by Verstappen and Russel under difficult conditions), because there is another thread where people write and discuss about motorsport in general, including F1.

It is then difficult to write across threads and I think that is why most people stay in the general motor sport thread.

[Kusman]

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

Agreed. The qualifying session yesterday was incredibly good. George Russell is one of the drivers that I like the most. And I became really happy when I saw that he achieved a career record with this car by taking the 2nd place. If Verstappen didn't have a good lap, Russell was going to take the pole! He is one of the special drivers and I hope to see him driving a Mercedes next season. He deserves this more than Bottas, no offense. 

[DIA7]

This is the raceday qualification grid.


So apparently Norris had his gearbox changed after his crash on Q3 yesterday so had to drop from 10th to 14.
Unlucky for him because if he didn't crash he had good chance to get a Pole or top 3 atleast.
Stroll will start last after taking penalty from Hungary GP and Bottas also took his penalty and will start 12th he gained a spot after Norris changed gearbox he should have been starting 13th.
With high chance of the track being wet at the start being in front will help escape the chaos at the start I expect it to be like Hungarian GP all over again.

[rdbase]

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.
Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

It was the best race I have seen even if it was just a qualifier.
I couldn't watch it fully because there were 4 matches in the EPL running all at the very same time and had my focus on those as I put some mbtc on them. But for those who missed it here are the highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_CvS-dN99Y
Norris crashing out and making his car look like a submarine was the best part for me. Just glad he was okay at the end. It was due to the rain of course.

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

I don't think the problem is that no one wants to post anything (even though it was an excellent qualifying by Verstappen and Russel under difficult conditions), because there is another thread where people write and discuss about motorsport in general, including F1.

It is then difficult to write across threads and I think that is why most people stay in the general motor sport thread.

Their thread is spread across all the motor sports including Moto Grand Prix and anything they wish to talk about regarding automotive sports.
This one was intended just for F1 and their corresponding races at the professional level.
That's it really. But people can post where ever they wish too.
And yes, the longest track in the F1 series along side with the constant down pour of rain made for no grip on the track hence the most difficult way to steer a F1 vehicle in those conditions.

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

Agreed. The qualifying session yesterday was incredibly good. George Russell is one of the drivers that I like the most. And I became really happy when I saw that he achieved a career record with this car by taking the 2nd place. If Verstappen didn't have a good lap, Russell was going to take the pole! He is one of the special drivers and I hope to see him driving a Mercedes next season. He deserves this more than Bottas, no offense.  

That's why I took Russell as he showed he can handle himself on these slick straight aways the best out of all of them.
He starts pole so I put a fiver on him to win it. Only if Max and Hamilton manage to crash out of course.

So apparently Norris had his gearbox changed after his crash on Q3 yesterday so had to drop from 10th to 14.
Unlucky for him because if he didn't crash he had good chance to get a Pole or top 3 atleast.
Stroll will start last after taking penalty from Hungary GP and Bottas also took his penalty and will start 12th he gained a spot after Norris changed gearbox he should have been starting 13th.
With high chance of the track being wet at the start being in front will help escape the chaos at the start I expect it to be like Hungarian GP all over again.

The race had been delayed for the past 30 minutes because of the rain and the visibility is very poor.
Hopefully they will start it soon.

[motoprose]

This race ever going to start?
Its past the three hours alotted to begin. There is only so much daylight.

[boltz]

Unfortunately the race started under safety car and only took 3 laps as that was the minimum that they needed to cover in order to give half of points for top 10. However, this is not how everyone wanted the race to be but the rain was simply just to heavy and the circuit became too dangerous for racing. I'm also glad that Russel got 2nd place.

[Koal-84]

Unfortunately the race started under safety car and only took 3 laps as that was the minimum that they needed to cover in order to give half of points for top 10. However, this is not how everyone wanted the race to be but the rain was simply just to heavy and the circuit became too dangerous for racing. I'm also glad that Russel got 2nd place.

I'm happy for Russel and the second place, but is he really worth anything, I would have begrudged him the second place with a real race, but it is as it is.

How does that look with the bets actually if one would have bet on the 2nd place in the race with Russel?

About the race itself, I think it's shameful for Formula 1 to the paying fans on the track 2 laps behind the safety car only that you can say there has been a "race", the fans should also get at least 50% of the ticket costs back, there were also only half the points. Think that were also the only reasons not to have to refund the TV money and tickets if you had canceled the race immediately.

[Karartma1]

Unbelievable to assign points with only 2 laps and moreover behind the safety car! I've never been a big fan of Formula 1 but this Grand Prix was ridiculous and disgusting to say the least.
Finished in two laps to cover their asses against the sponsors and to avoid refunding tickets. Really shameful, there are no other words to describe the Grand Prix of Spa in Belgium: you mean the Spa race was run and valid? That's fine, but everyone should be left with zero points, no more.

[NeuroticFish]

Unbelievable to assign points with only 2 laps and moreover behind the safety car! I've never been a big fan of Formula 1 but this Grand Prix was ridiculous and disgusting to say the least.
Finished in two laps to cover their asses against the sponsors and to avoid refunding tickets. Really shameful, there are no other words to describe the Grand Prix of Spa in Belgium: you mean the Spa race was run and valid? That's fine, but everyone should be left with zero points, no more.

No. Zero is also unfair, since the teams have spent time and money.
They should have found instead some alternative. I don't know though what would have been that, maybe Monday and refund for the paying fans.
With the current bad joke instead of a race, I would not be surprised if paying TV channels would even sue them.

[Koal-84]

Unbelievable to assign points with only 2 laps and moreover behind the safety car! I've never been a big fan of Formula 1 but this Grand Prix was ridiculous and disgusting to say the least.
Finished in two laps to cover their asses against the sponsors and to avoid refunding tickets. Really shameful, there are no other words to describe the Grand Prix of Spa in Belgium: you mean the Spa race was run and valid? That's fine, but everyone should be left with zero points, no more.

No. Zero is also unfair, since the teams have spent time and money.
They should have found instead some alternative. I don't know though what would have been that, maybe Monday and refund for the paying fans.
With the current bad joke instead of a race, I would not be surprised if paying TV channels would even sue them.

I would also say that the race should have been held on Monday, but it is primarily about the money and no longer the sport itself. That's correct, zero points is perhaps also unfair, but also for all drivers who were not in the TOP 10 in qualifying it is actually unfair they had no chance of points, they would not have had to drive out of the pits, right?

The biggest farce of Formula 1 in Indianapolis 2005 was topped yesterday, to shame for Formula 1 I think.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5DRJWw0R_w

[rdbase]

Unbelievable to assign points with only 2 laps and moreover behind the safety car! I've never been a big fan of Formula 1 but this Grand Prix was ridiculous and disgusting to say the least.
Finished in two laps to cover their asses against the sponsors and to avoid refunding tickets. Really shameful, there are no other words to describe the Grand Prix of Spa in Belgium: you mean the Spa race was run and valid? That's fine, but everyone should be left with zero points, no more.

No. Zero is also unfair, since the teams have spent time and money.
They should have found instead some alternative. I don't know though what would have been that, maybe Monday and refund for the paying fans.
With the current bad joke instead of a race, I would not be surprised if paying TV channels would even sue them.

I don't think anyone liked how the race was handled. Especially those fans sitting in the rain the entire time waiting for them to make a decision on how it was going to end.
I don't think they can be sued as they more than certainly have a clause put in a place just incase this sort of situation occurred.
Atleast the next one should have perfect weather conditions in Zandvoort.

[Kusman]

I guess that I'm seeing points with decimals in the driver standings for the first time.    After the laps needed to complete the race, points were divided in half considering the grid after the qualifying session. I didn't know that there was such rule in the book. And this was for the benefit of Hamilton also. Because if there was no such rule, Verstappen was going to close the gap with Hamilton by 10 points and even get ahead of him by 2 points (Verstappen - 212 pts, Hamilton - 210 pts).

[swogerino]

Unbelievable to assign points with only 2 laps and moreover behind the safety car! I've never been a big fan of Formula 1 but this Grand Prix was ridiculous and disgusting to say the least.
Finished in two laps to cover their asses against the sponsors and to avoid refunding tickets. Really shameful, there are no other words to describe the Grand Prix of Spa in Belgium: you mean the Spa race was run and valid? That's fine, but everyone should be left with zero points, no more.

No. Zero is also unfair, since the teams have spent time and money.
They should have found instead some alternative. I don't know though what would have been that, maybe Monday and refund for the paying fans.
With the current bad joke instead of a race, I would not be surprised if paying TV channels would even sue them.

I don't think anyone liked how the race was handled. Especially those fans sitting in the rain the entire time waiting for them to make a decision on how it was going to end.
I don't think they can be sued as they more than certainly have a clause put in a place just incase this sort of situation occurred.
Atleast the next one should have perfect weather conditions in Zandvoort.

Even Mercedes team together with everyone else was not happy about them.I say Mercedes because they posted a picture in their F1 Instagram page and the saying was "Thinking about that guy and his mayonnaise" because the cameras spotted a guy eating potatoes with a lot of thick mayonnaise.Next race is just in few days so that will make up for the strangest of Sundays I have ever witnessed in F1 and I watch it from a lot of years.

[rdbase]

Race in the Netherlands this week. Looking forward to see what Max does in front of the home fans. Should be more eventful than the last.


Practice 1: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/practice-1/practice-1-612dd3522558e14662b86e72

Qualification: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/qualification/qualification-612dd14439b36655f4df1232

Final Race: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-612cbb2979852ac857a0b406

[buwaytress]

Well, whew. I missed all THAT drama. Who says F1 is dull, right? But yeah, to weigh in late, as a very casual watcher, this was lacking in all the things that make sports a spectacle for watching: sportsmanship and competition. I hope every paying fan got money back because that was an insult to everyone who couldn't compete on level ground.