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Guys, really? Any single message about GOATifi leaving Williams at the end of season. He haven't achieved anything significant in his career and probably didn't deserved seat in F1. Though, he wasn't worst driver in F1 history. But he always will be remembered as person who played main role in last race of 2021 season and gave chance for Verstappen to become champion. There is few options who can replace him. It's Nyck de Vries, Mick Schumacher, Daniel Ricciardo and few names from F2. In other news, Yuki Tsunoda extended contract with Alpha Tauri for 2023 season.
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September 23, 2022, 10:53:55 PM |
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Guys, really? Any single message about GOATifi leaving Williams at the end of season. He haven't achieved anything significant in his career and probably didn't deserved seat in F1. Though, he wasn't worst driver in F1 history. But he always will be remembered as person who played main role in last race of 2021 season and gave chance for Verstappen to become champion. There is few options who can replace him. It's Nyck de Vries, Mick Schumacher, Daniel Ricciardo and few names from F2. In other news, Yuki Tsunoda extended contract with Alpha Tauri for 2023 season.
Yes I did see this video this morning labelled as Latifi leaving Williams but had a picture of DeVries looking very excited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdbBtlpfsds![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FjkKn2n7%2FNyck.jpg&t=663&c=cr5F6QgR1EvMVQ) So I guess he got his seat on the team.
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September 23, 2022, 11:10:47 PM |
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Guys, really? Any single message about GOATifi leaving Williams at the end of season. He haven't achieved anything significant in his career and probably didn't deserved seat in F1. Though, he wasn't worst driver in F1 history. But he always will be remembered as person who played main role in last race of 2021 season and gave chance for Verstappen to become champion. There is few options who can replace him. It's Nyck de Vries, Mick Schumacher, Daniel Ricciardo and few names from F2. In other news, Yuki Tsunoda extended contract with Alpha Tauri for 2023 season.
Indeed Latifi has done Verstappen a really great favour for Verstappen before leaving Williams. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I don't have too much to talk about him to be honest because he isn't one of the impressive drivers in F1. I don't expect him to find a new team for himself in 2023 season also. By the way, I don't think that Ricciardo would join Williams. The biggest alternatives for him are Alpine and Haas for now. I would rather seeing him at Alpine as he can be more competitive for upper places. But it isn't all about the car of course. He needs to improve his performance and make up for this poor season. Tsunoda's extending his contract has made one thing clear that the rumours about Gasly can be true. He might really leave the team and join Alpine. But there are some other drivers also being linked with the same team so let's see.
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September 23, 2022, 11:47:12 PM |
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Well like one guy say, Latifi "can be more remembered than other drivers better than him" and this its really true, the Verstappen tittle was really made for his fault, without that LW will be the champion. But well its a healthy move by williams dropping the "paid driver" to hire a better driver.
Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat, i think he dont do good things to stay in F1 this two season are really bad with sparkles of light from him , but not enought to reamin in F1 for my opinion.
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Latifi when the team don't want him to finish the season in 20th position. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He will really be missed and remembered despite being a terrible driver. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) People have made so many memes about him so far. I hope that he is also laughing at those memes instead of getting angry with them. Williams are very likely to bring Nyck de Vries to replace him. Maybe they are one of the weakest teams in F1 now but it shouldn't matter for de Vries now. Because he is finally close to a full-season opportunity in F1. I believe that he can be more helpful for the team than Latifi.
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Well like one guy say, Latifi "can be more remembered than other drivers better than him" and this its really true, the Verstappen tittle was really made for his fault, without that LW will be the champion. But well its a healthy move by williams dropping the "paid driver" to hire a better driver.
Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat, i think he dont do good things to stay in F1 this two season are really bad with sparkles of light from him , but not enought to reamin in F1 for my opinion.
Honestly, I feel bad for Latifi because of all the hatred he is receiving because of what he has done. However, I think that this was the right choice from Williams, since they really needed to replace this guy with someone who was better, so I think this is the right choice. Nyck de Vries and Mick Schumacher from Formula 2 are two names that come to mind when thinking about good candidates. Actually, I feel very bad for him since he is the target of so much hatred for allowing Max Verstappen to win that race. In the course of his career, that could have been one of the biggest events of his life that could have led to his downfall. Regards Duke
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Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation) Yuki stands much better than Latifi, but, indeed, I don't know for how long, since he doesn't seem to improve/mature fast enough. The thing is that Mick also may not be the right material there... and this has became visible when compared with K-Mag. So the near future can bring a lot of changes (but although it can, I don't know if it actually will).
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By the way, I don't think that Ricciardo would join Williams. The biggest alternatives for him are Alpine and Haas for now. I would rather seeing him at Alpine as he can be more competitive for upper places. But it isn't all about the car of course. He needs to improve his performance and make up for this poor season. Tsunoda's extending his contract has made one thing clear that the rumours about Gasly can be true. He might really leave the team and join Alpine. But there are some other drivers also being linked with the same team so let's see.
Don't forget that Ricciardo left Renault not in very nice way, so I think that his return to Alpine isn't very likely. It will be interesting time when many teams still don't have full lineup for next season and many drivers without contracts. Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation) And Lando Norris father is multi millionaire and Lance Stroll father bought whole team for his son ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . That's reality, you don't have big chance to get seat in F1 if you're poor. But there is difference that some paid drivers can deliver result (c'mon, even Stroll had few podiums) and there is guys like Latifi or Mazepin.
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September 26, 2022, 08:07:04 AM |
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Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation) And Lando Norris father is multi millionaire and Lance Stroll father bought whole team for his son ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . That's reality, you don't have big chance to get seat in F1 if you're poor. But there is difference that some paid drivers can deliver result (c'mon, even Stroll had few podiums) and there is guys like Latifi or Mazepin. Exactly. And while, as you said, even Stroll was able to deliver, Latifi (or Mazepin) didn't. Even Zhou had some reasonably OK races. Of course, most probably a big percentage of the blame goes to the cars too, but when the other driver with same car does on a constant manner significantly better... it's time to try somebody new. Don't forget that Ricciardo left Renault not in very nice way, so I think that his return to Alpine isn't very likely. It will be interesting time when many teams still don't have full lineup for next season and many drivers without contracts.
I fear that if he cannot go back to Alpine, there's not much other chance for him in F1. I don't think that he will go into much worse cars when he already did bad in better ones. I guess that we will have to get used to miss his big smile like the one from that McLaren 1-2 win.
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September 26, 2022, 08:28:50 PM |
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I fear that if he cannot go back to Alpine, there's not much other chance for him in F1. I don't think that he will go into much worse cars when he already did bad in better ones. I guess that we will have to get used to miss his big smile like the one from that McLaren 1-2 win.
Actually Alpine are in a better condition than McLaren. Because McLaren disappointed people with their performance despite having a lot of money to use for the development of their car. They had a much bigger potential than this. Everything can change next season of course if McLaren work hard to prepare a much more powerful car. They need to use their funds efficiently from now on. Maybe Ricciardo can still do much better at Alpine compared to his performance in the current season. Because if he doesn't have any problem with Ocon like he has with Norris from time to time, he would race smoother. He is still one of the most skilled drivers on the grid. But it is hard to expect the performance he had at Red Bull from him at this point.
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Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation) And Lando Norris father is multi millionaire and Lance Stroll father bought whole team for his son ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . That's reality, you don't have big chance to get seat in F1 if you're poor. But there is difference that some paid drivers can deliver result (c'mon, even Stroll had few podiums) and there is guys like Latifi or Mazepin. Exactly. And while, as you said, even Stroll was able to deliver, Latifi (or Mazepin) didn't. Even Zhou had some reasonably OK races. Of course, most probably a big percentage of the blame goes to the cars too, but when the other driver with same car does on a constant manner significantly better... it's time to try somebody new. I'm sure a lot of F1 fans are annoyed by the wealthy billionaires buying entire teams just to keep their kids entertained. And these sons of the rich are boasting that they have become real racers. And many of them, such as Mazepin, are completely unable to really become worthy athletes. Perhaps only Lando Norris has the ability to at least in the slightest degree correspond to the level of skill of the best riders. But all the same, the label "son" he will have his whole career. And this is a reality that Lando will never be able to defeat. Alas. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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There is obviously no more of the current title contention. Max already won it, and Red Bull already won it, what's left right now is only just mathematical calculations but it's over.
I hope that Ferrari could at least keep the second place, because if they race terrible for the remainder of the season and Mercedes end up with some great results, there is a chance that Mercedes could end up with second and that would be quite difficult for Ferrari to accept. I wager Max will win this race as well, I am going to bet on that at least, because let's face it he is the best driver right now, but he also has the best car out there for sure as well.
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^ 'Mathematical calculations' are nothing more than something for the fans to get interested in and to continue watching. And yeah... It's already Verstappen's season and Red Bull's. Even the books have gotten lazy and turned on the juice on Verstappen's line and made it 1.40 - 1.49 for the next race. Lol. They could be giving some value in Leclerc's line in the process tho.
Anyway, I'll make a very small bet on Vettel winning the Singapore GP. It's his favorite track and he gets lucky in it. We'll see.
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Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat, i think he dont do good things to stay in F1 this two season are really bad with sparkles of light from him , but not enought to reamin in F1 for my opinion.
Sadly, as a backer of Tsunoda, I need to dispel any more illusions of him for next season. He's had more than enough chances. Great guy, decent driver, but certainly proved himself to be out of depth for F1. No need to mention Dutch GP heh. Maybe that is part of why he be goat? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Actually Alpine are in a better condition than McLaren. Because McLaren disappointed people with their performance despite having a lot of money to use for the development of their car. They had a much bigger potential than this. Everything can change next season of course if McLaren work hard to prepare a much more powerful car. They need to use their funds efficiently from now on.
Maybe Ricciardo can still do much better at Alpine compared to his performance in the current season. Because if he doesn't have any problem with Ocon like he has with Norris from time to time, he would race smoother. He is still one of the most skilled drivers on the grid. But it is hard to expect the performance he had at Red Bull from him at this point.
Alpine has now a problem because Alonso has left them abruptly and they didn't manage to do good with Piastri either. The cars are not bad for 2022, but lately the Mercs start to look better and McLaren has a good chance for a much better start next year. Ricci had a not-too-bad seat at Alpine and the other options are much more problematic cars. Of course, his RBR like days are gone and it's hard to ever get close to that anymore (Checo has proven to be more constant/reliable for RBR than Ricci has been). The goat is behind his 2 teammates and one of them did only 1 race ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Maybe that is part of why he be goat? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I would not be surprised if this was the last straw that has convinced everybody (including himself) that he must leave.
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September 28, 2022, 07:45:14 PM |
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Here’s how Verstappen can seal the F1 world title in Singapore:
If Verstappen wins with the fastest lap, Leclerc finishes eighth or lower and Perez finishes fourth or lower If Verstappen wins without the fastest lap, Leclerc finishes ninth or lower and Perez finishes fourth or lower without the fastest lap Any alternative results which don’t fit into those two scenarios and the title fight rolls on to the Japanese GP.
Maybe Leclerc still seems to have a chance for the title mathematically we all know that this is impossible. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Last season Verstappen was way ahead of Hamilton also but Hamilton started to catch up with him before it was too late for everything. I'm afraid Leclerc hasn't been able to do this due to significant problems Ferrari have had. I wouldn't be astonished if Verstappen declares his second championship in his career by this GP. Because I still don't trust Ferrari even a bit as Leclerc might have a serious issue which could cause him to retire or finish at a very low position. Ricci had a not-too-bad seat at Alpine and the other options are much more problematic cars. Of course, his RBR like days are gone and it's hard to ever get close to that anymore (Checo has proven to be more constant/reliable for RBR than Ricci has been).
Perez has definitely proven himself to Red Bull about that topic. Ricciardo loves the competition with even his teammate. It was what he was doing while he was racing for Red Bull also. I still remember the horrible accident him and Verstappen had. It was a very simple mistake by Ricciardo as he hit Verstappen from the back. He had problems with Verstappen which caused his Red Bull career to end not much time later.
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September 28, 2022, 07:46:21 PM |
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To be fair - it looks very much similar to Russel's stats when he was in Williams, doesn't it? I remember that Kubica's 1 point was a "game changer" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) We know Williams was a team where you came if you REALLY REALLY WANTED to be F1 driver and you were lucky enough to have someone who pays for that.
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Come one. Don't make a comparison of Goatifi with Mr.Consisten. Even Russel getting 0 points, but he can manage and maximize the cars and can be a reliable driver in some situation we needed. Russel on William is a golden son, he get the opportunity to drive for Mercedes in Bahrain and got a good result (Just because a car problem & make him DNF). We all know "Latifi" power is because money power.
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