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Red Bull sizzled in the last race although it did not make Verstappen the official driver to grab the championship title maybe it could for the next race happening this weekend in Japan!
By the way, the track in Japan is a very difficult track, with a lot of turns, and I remember the Japanese even seriously modernized it after some kind of serious accident. There are several interesting and difficult turns on this track. And there are also bottlenecks, quite dangerous for riders. I also note that Hamilton won several times at this track. But let's see how he performs this time. By the way, I would be glad if he once again became the hero of this stage.
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Suzuka is definitely Hamilton's track normally. He already loves to push himself harder on difficult tracks like this. He has so many victories gained on this track for example. However he is unlucky that he doesn't have a fast car anymore (at least for now ). Hence I don't think that he can make any surprise with a car like this even under rain. I've checked the weather report for Suzuka btw and it looks like another rainy race might be waiting for us. Verstappen made simple mistakes in Singapore and missed a big chance to climb to the top. Under similar conditions I expect him to drive more carefully this time. In addition to this, as far as I know winning this race by having the fastest lap is going to be enough for Verstappen to declare his title before the remaining four races. Because after that Verstappen is still keeping the lead even if he doesn't get any points in the last four races and Leclerc wins them with fastest laps. So I think this will be a big motivation for Verstappen to win this.
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^ I think even with the rain, Verstappen is going to win it. They're going to finish it and wrap it up. Red Bull is just too good as a team with the best driver on the track. Verstappen is a generational talent. Kinda like a Messi or a Ronaldo in football.
There isn't any value in his line tho. The books have him at 1.50 to win it. He was 1.40 to win in Singapore before quali and he was close to having it if he finished his possible pole taking lap if not for the fuel blunder. The race obv would've been different if he got pole position.
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I think even with the rain, Verstappen is going to win it. They're going to finish it and wrap it up. Red Bull is just too good as a team with the best driver on the track. Verstappen is a generational talent. Kinda like a Messi or a Ronaldo in football.
There isn't any value in his line tho. The books have him at 1.50 to win it. He was 1.40 to win in Singapore before quali and he was close to having it if he finished his possible pole taking lap if not for the fuel blunder. The race obv would've been different if he got pole position.
Verstappen can not win this race. It is not financially viable for the FIA nor the bookies in the end. I know how strange this may sound but it happens in the NBA, MLB, EPL, Liga leagues, etc etc. They want to extend the drama as long as they can so to bring ratings and viewership up. How boring would Drive to Survive be with an outright win with a couple more races to go before the end of the season. In saying this, many thought he would of done it in Singapore. But look... He didn't and now we have even more speculation if he can do it. It brings up more oddsmakers to profit from the outcome. For the one example you put up there: Ronaldo is not going to stay at his current club much longer. I already put in my selection for this grand prix. Hamilton will win this one.
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Verstappen can not win this race.
Hamilton will win this one.
If it is true that it is goind to be rainy weekend, we will see very interesting race (again) and indeed, Hamilton skills may play very important role. The question is how many crashes (&vsc) there will be, as they may always change the odds dramatically. What if Perez wanted to get his piece of cake again?
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Don't rain again, please. I see the "GP Singapore" after the rain, is really boring during the race. Less overtake and really boring to see, not everyone can use "DRS" as well due to that race. Let's bring a normal race first for the track we're not using yet. It's 3 years since last race on Suzuka.
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Verstappen can not win this race. It is not financially viable for the FIA nor the bookies in the end.
I'd love to see the competition for the championship staying alive honestly. But it just doesn't feel like this will happen until the last moments of the season. I mean that it was really lovely to see Verstappen and Hamilton entering the final race of the previous season at equal points. The champion was determined by literally the last lap of the race. But we don't see this much alive competition very often. We all remember how many times Hamilton dominated F1 and made the sport quite boring to watch in the meantime. Bookmakers don't have a big impact on this every time as a result. I think Verstappen will declare his title by this race. But hopefully we can watch a more competitive season next time. This depends on how much the other teams will develop their cars and get close to Red Bull.
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I would guess that Max is not at fault here, hence they can't really take away his title. If Red Bull won the constructors last year, maybe they would have considered taking that instead but when we are talking about drivers, that's not Max's fault so it would be tough to take away his title, and that is why this decision was given. Plus, it was a brand new year with some new regulations, so giving Red Bull some leeway on accounting problems, when the deal is not like they went overboard x2 what they were allowed to, just a tid bit, then it makes sense since it is not huge enough to make a difference. That is why I believe just a fine and move along is a great decision.
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I have to say one thing nobody mention before about gasly in Alpine, as far i know Ocon hates Gasly, so imagine how bad can be that relationship. Ocon in the track its a really bad person with his partner, he put some risk against Alonso and even with Perez when their were in the same team. SO can you imagine what can he do against a man who hate?
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I have to say one thing nobody mention before about gasly in Alpine, as far i know Ocon hates Gasly, so imagine how bad can be that relationship. Ocon in the track its a really bad person with his partner, he put some risk against Alonso and even with Perez when their were in the same team. SO can you imagine what can he do against a man who hate?
Yeah, I remember that Ocon and Perez had several accidents during season which gave lot of headache for Force India team. Having Ocon as teammate isn't easy and considering not best relationship between him and Gasly is concerning thing. Usually, such things don't end well for the team.
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Greats news you delivered to us rdbase.
I have to say one thing nobody mention before about gasly in Alpine, as far i know Ocon hates Gasly, so imagine how bad can be that relationship. Ocon in the track its a really bad person with his partner, he put some risk against Alonso and even with Perez when their were in the same team. SO can you imagine what can he do against a man who hate?
I thought Ocon wouldn't get along with Gasly so even if he moved it might be short lived. If drivers who don't have a good flowing relationship in this sport they can not win too many races. Japan first practice just showed how the cars dealt with the rain and most were off track. Ferrari's don't handle the turns in those deep puddles too well. Both Haas cars did the same with going off into the turns.
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Japan first practice just showed how the cars dealt with the rain and most were off track. Ferrari's don't handle the turns in those deep puddles too well. Both Haas cars did the same with going off into the turns.
That's why I agree with what was said before, skills and experience could be key factors. They estimate there are 40% chances for rain on Sunday, so it will be probably another rainy race. I do not think we will see Verstappen as a champion this weekend.
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We have left qualifying session behind. Verstappen met the expectations and got the pole position. But it was by a very slight difference like 0.01 second. Leclerc improved his time but it was only enough to get this much behind Verstappen. But it was important for him to improve otherwise Sainz was going to get past him. If that happened then maybe there would be some issue between Ferrari drivers. Because Sainz is a really ambitious driver and wouldn't like to yield Leclerc easily.
The race is pretty early in the morning in my country and it's annoying. Normally I would watch the recap later in this situation but this is a special race for Verstappen and Red Bull both. Verstappen is going to be the champion officially if he wins the race. Red Bull can consolidate their relationship with Honda in case of a win also.
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We have left qualifying session behind. Verstappen met the expectations and got the pole position. But it was by a very slight difference like 0.01 second. Leclerc improved his time but it was only enough to get this much behind Verstappen. But it was important for him to improve otherwise Sainz was going to get past him. If that happened then maybe there would be some issue between Ferrari drivers. Because Sainz is a really ambitious driver and wouldn't like to yield Leclerc easily.
I am really disappointed, Hamilton is 6th! Ocon 5th? wow, I did not expect that. The weather forecast is still the same - it will rain, the only question is "when exactly?". Maybe we will have "dry" start, but then rain hit during the race. Anyway, I expect we will see safety car at least once. And then maybe they will do more pit stops, so it will become even more complicated.
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I don't see anything that could stop Max from winning his 2nd title tomorrow but the pressure will be on him and on Redbull so let's see how they will perform but then again, I don't see anything to stop Max. Mercedes a big disappointment in qualifies but maybe in race they will have the necessary pace to fight for a podium but p6 for Hamilton seems far from podium in my opinion.
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The race has been red flagged for over an hour now. I think I'm gonna doze off if there's another 30 mins of this sht. Don't know why the FIA just let them slap on the full wets and get on with the race. Memes courtesy of Formuladank. https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/Hit the 'new' tab for the latest memes during the race. These guys are hilarious.
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October 09, 2022, 08:39:24 AM |
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Eh, so Verstappen is king. Thought Ferrari would try and stretch this out a little longer, but after taking pole, he wasn't going to delay his celebrations was he?
Title parade is delayed another couple of hours, though, so there's still time for you guys to tune in if you want to revel/whine about it for a while haha.
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