ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread

[Wapfika]

Bali Majors keeping everyone with indepth play of dota2 before the next huge tournament begins for the Riyadh Masters next month?
This seems just as big for the esports community as Wimbledon is for the tennis world in the summertime.

This Major is actually fun to watch but not fun to gamble and I'm glad I don't have any spare money right now to bet in this Major because most likely I would have lost all my money haha. Hard to guess drafts , new teams that I didn't have a single game from them even if I know the players and a lot of other factors that makes this major very hard to guess on gambling.  Besides GG and Liquid who already have low odds , no other team is performing on high level and we can see trows from 9pandas at 1.02 odds and other shady games  . Even the viewers on twitch are mad but the views are so low when we have Major in Asia or NA because most of the viewers are from Europe and Russia.

You're right , summer major always had a special place in Dota 2 community but I would have prefer to have it in Europe.

What really surprised me is the assignment of team on Group Stage. Most of the team on Group A are those team that didn't participate/early knock out on previous Dreamleague tournament while Group B are those team that dominate the Dreamleague and go to the second stage of the tournament. Group B teams are very strong while Group A will surely be dominated of Team Liquid since the majority of teams there is weak.

It's very tough for teams on Group B to have a dominance or to qualified. I think betting on Draw result is still the best pick for all matches if you want to be in profit on group stage.

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[ralle14]

What really surprised me is the assignment of team on Group Stage. Most of the team on Group A are those team that didn't participate/early knock out on previous Dreamleague tournament while Group B are those team that dominate the Dreamleague and go to the second stage of the tournament. Group B teams are very strong while Group A will surely be dominated of Team Liquid since the majority of teams there is weak.

It's very tough for teams on Group B to have a dominance or to qualified. I think betting on Draw result is still the best pick for all matches if you want to be in profit on group stage.

The same can be said for Group A in terms of making it out of the groups because the teams from 2nd to 6th are only a few wins apart, aside from Team Liquid.

The teams in Group A still prefer to split a map win, so it's a good time to ride on the 1-1 trend until it falls, while in Group B, the 2-0's might be the better option since the top three teams (Quest, BetBoom, and Gaimin) won't settle with a draw.

This Major is actually fun to watch but not fun to gamble and I'm glad I don't have any spare money right now to bet in this Major because most likely I would have lost all my money haha. Hard to guess drafts , new teams that I didn't have a single game from them even if I know the players and a lot of other factors that makes this major very hard to guess on gambling.

These best of 2s are difficult to read since a couple of teams are falling off and the odds are becoming less valuable after experiencing the same format on DreamLeague a few weeks ago.

[Coin_trader]

It's very tough for teams on Group B to have a dominance or to qualified. I think betting on Draw result is still the best pick for all matches if you want to be in profit on group stage.

I’m having the time of my life betting on both team to score or +1.5 on under dog teams since last tournaments. First round group stage is always like a this that full of tie matches because team are typically measuring each other fo the strategy that will work. The next stage is more on sweep especially the quarter and semi finals since the team usually familiar on each team strategy and how to counter them.

I’m surpised how GG manage to come back and win the last tournament against BB. Now they are already back with their perfect form since they are already dominating again their group. I will go draw on most of matches that will not involved GG. This is the key to be profitable on Dta2 bettin in my ipinion.

[boltz]

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI.  Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow  ...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

Meanwhile , Quest is most likely the team who only a few of us believed in them but they are currently leading Group B and already qualified for upper bracket and if they somehow win this Major or at least get top 3, they will have a real chance for TI qualifiers as top 3 gets around 600 DPC points and will accumulate a total of 732 ( 500  for top 3 and they already have 232 dpc points ). And same goes for Nouns but I don't see them having a blast Major like Quest.

[jakelyson]

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI.  Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow  ...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

yeah, they are at their lowest in this tournament.  They are now out of the competition since they are sitting at the bottom of Group B with a record of 0-3-5. At least for SR, they won against IG yesterday so they still have a chance to qualify for the lower bracket.

Meanwhile , Quest is most likely the team who only a few of us believed in them but they are currently leading Group B and already qualified for upper bracket and if they somehow win this Major or at least get top 3, they will have a real chance for TI qualifiers as top 3 gets around 600 DPC points and will accumulate a total of 732 ( 500  for top 3 and they already have 232 dpc points ). And same goes for Nouns but I don't see them having a blast Major like Quest.

It is too early to tell. It is still the group stage and mostly, teams step up when they are on the bracket. For now, I am sure some good teams are still gauging up the competition.

Quest can be good, but they have a lot of good teams to deal with in order to finish top 3. At how they are performing, they can at least finish top 8, which guarantees them 300 dpc points. Hopefully they finish higher because we all like to see new teams qualify for TI.

As for nouns, they have fallen the rank. They are now bottom 2 with 1-3-3. It is still possible that they finish in a tie breaker, but it is very slim.

[sunsilk]

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI.  Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow  ...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

I even thought that they'll perform better than beastcoast. But this is what the unexpected comes in every tournament and in TI, we'll never know which team that shall be out too early. And then, there will always be the ones that should be out.

As for shopify rebellion, they no longer have a match today so their fate is in the hands of these three remaining teams. Blacklist, Execration and IG.

If there's a team that gets a 2-0 for this upcoming last day, there will be a tie breaker with them. But lucky if all of these teams gets 1-1, they are secured on low bracket for the playoffs.

[ralle14]

I think this is the first major where EG is really doing bad ...like this bad : 0-1-5. That is their record right now in Bali Major and if they manage to find a way to get good drafts and get out of their comfort picks , I don't think they will have great chances at TI.  Same goes for Shopify as this 2 teams are like twins because whenever a team is doing bad , the other will follow  ...I guess they still share the same EG blood after all.

I guess the health problem that their captain had at the start of the tournament really affected the team as well.

Also good to see Bleed Esports crawling their way up and might even have a chance at a top 4 finish in their groups.

As for shopify rebellion, they no longer have a match today so their fate is in the hands of these three remaining teams. Blacklist, Execration and IG.

If there's a team that gets a 2-0 for this upcoming last day, there will be a tie breaker with them. But lucky if all of these teams gets 1-1, they are secured on low bracket for the playoffs.

The bad part for those three teams is two of them are facing each other, while Execration will only get a map at best against Team Spirit because Team Spirit needs a 2-0 as well to force a tiebreaker for the upper bracket spot.

[passwordnow]

Group stages are now done and we've got some tiebreakers for the Bali major Dota 2. There is no longer a SEA representative that's going to continue for the playoffs and that's gonna happen on July 5 starting with the upper bracket then the loser's bracket next.
While some of these teams are already qualified for the TI, it's still a different experience by being serious on this major because there's still the DPC points that other teams should chase and at the same time the prize.

[sunsilk]

As for shopify rebellion, they no longer have a match today so their fate is in the hands of these three remaining teams. Blacklist, Execration and IG.

If there's a team that gets a 2-0 for this upcoming last day, there will be a tie breaker with them. But lucky if all of these teams gets 1-1, they are secured on low bracket for the playoffs.

The bad part for those three teams is two of them are facing each other, while Execration will only get a map at best against Team Spirit because Team Spirit needs a 2-0 as well to force a tiebreaker for the upper bracket spot.

Exe is now eliminated and Team Spirit goes to the lower bracket.

Also good to see Bleed Esports crawling their way up and might even have a chance at a top 4 finish in their groups.

Still, they've ended being eliminated by Azure Ray through a tiebreaker. I think they haven't noticed the points system when there's Azure Ray beaten nouns 2-0.

If only Bleed won just 1 game against 9Pandas, they're in for the playoffs.

[CLS63]

Interesting things are happening for Natus Vincere team in CS:GO. There has been a serious level of decline in their performance for a long time. All the things have started with the search of a solid in-game leader. And now they have decided to nearly rebuild the team. Because only s1mple and b1t are kept in the team. The rest of the players have been replaced with international players.

This isn't the kind of an action you would think Natus Vincere would take normally. But this is a big step forward for them. According to the fresh news about the new roster electroNic, Perfecto and npl have been replaced with iM, jL and Aleksib.

They might need some time before playing coherently though. But it feels like this roster will be way better than before. 

[ralle14]

Group stages are now done and we've got some tiebreakers for the Bali major Dota 2. There is no longer a SEA representative that's going to continue for the playoffs and that's gonna happen on July 5 starting with the upper bracket then the loser's bracket next.
While some of these teams are already qualified for the TI, it's still a different experience by being serious on this major because there's still the DPC points that other teams should chase and at the same time the prize.

That's expected for the SEA teams since they've been consistently bombing out early aside from Talon who can put up good results on a good day.

Still, they've ended being eliminated by Azure Ray through a tiebreaker. I think they haven't noticed the points system when there's Azure Ray beaten nouns 2-0.

If only Bleed won just 1 game against 9Pandas, they're in for the playoffs.

It's also the worst way to get eliminated and on the other tiebreaker match, Blacklist fell short against Shopify.

The playoff bracket is already out, and for the third time, we might see another Team Liquid vs Gaimin Gladiators finals because they're both on the opposite side of the upper bracket and will likely cruise through the upper final.

[passwordnow]

Group stages are now done and we've got some tiebreakers for the Bali major Dota 2. There is no longer a SEA representative that's going to continue for the playoffs and that's gonna happen on July 5 starting with the upper bracket then the loser's bracket next.
While some of these teams are already qualified for the TI, it's still a different experience by being serious on this major because there's still the DPC points that other teams should chase and at the same time the prize.

That's expected for the SEA teams since they've been consistently bombing out early aside from Talon who can put up good results on a good day.

Sad for Execration that they're the team that's close to having a direct TI invitation with the current DPC points that they have. But they lack of it because of how they ended up I think with 1-2 participation they have for the past majors. Whilst the only SEA team that got a direct invite is Talon, these three times that have got out early on Bali major are gonna have to do it hard to the qualifiers. And the sad news, is that there is only one slot left for SEA qualifier.

[ralle14]

Sad for Execration that they're the team that's close to having a direct TI invitation with the current DPC points that they have. But they lack of it because of how they ended up I think with 1-2 participation they have for the past majors. Whilst the only SEA team that got a direct invite is Talon, these three times that have got out early on Bali major are gonna have to do it hard to the qualifiers. And the sad news, is that there is only one slot left for SEA qualifier.

If they still had their former coach, they might've qualified through the DPC points and that one qualifier spot is good enough since i'd rather see a couple of SEA teams that perform well in TI than have more slots and waste them. Bleed Esports might be the team to take that final qualifier spot as they're almost similar to the old Fnatic squad.

Also, this is what I got for the first playoff match later today, over 2.5 since both teams are good and I think Team Liquid being a favorite is a trap.

[sunsilk]

Still, they've ended being eliminated by Azure Ray through a tiebreaker. I think they haven't noticed the points system when there's Azure Ray beaten nouns 2-0.

If only Bleed won just 1 game against 9Pandas, they're in for the playoffs.

It's also the worst way to get eliminated and on the other tiebreaker match, Blacklist fell short against Shopify.

The playoff bracket is already out, and for the third time, we might see another Team Liquid vs Gaimin Gladiators finals because they're both on the opposite side of the upper bracket and will likely cruise through the upper final.

That's really a worst elimination for those teams and I think it's just 1-2 games away from both team to get secured even for the lower bracket. Anyway, even if they qualify for the lower bracket and they lose there, there's no prize and DPC points from there if they get beaten from there.

I am more optimistic that we might see a new face in the finals and that could be Quest but that's just me. Team Liquid on this major played well on the group stage unlike with the past that we've seen from them.

[passwordnow]

Sad for Execration that they're the team that's close to having a direct TI invitation with the current DPC points that they have. But they lack of it because of how they ended up I think with 1-2 participation they have for the past majors. Whilst the only SEA team that got a direct invite is Talon, these three times that have got out early on Bali major are gonna have to do it hard to the qualifiers. And the sad news, is that there is only one slot left for SEA qualifier.

If they still had their former coach, they might've qualified through the DPC points and that one qualifier spot is good enough since i'd rather see a couple of SEA teams that perform well in TI than have more slots and waste them. Bleed Esports might be the team to take that final qualifier spot as they're almost similar to the old Fnatic squad.

What I have noticed with these SEA teams is that they're always having a hard time in early games. But still, somehow they manage to have a comeback and after they snowball, that's how they're taking the lead. I agree that it can be Bleed to take this spot but I'm not sure with their mid laner, he's still young and less in experience for which gives him unstable performances.

Also, this is what I got for the first playoff match later today, over 2.5 since both teams are good and I think Team Liquid being a favorite is a trap.

Oh yeah, no actions for this day but eventually it's just within a few hours away from this first playoff match between Team Liquid and PSG.LGD. Anyway, good luck to everyone's bet for these matches.

[boltz]

Liquid vs PSG looks awesome at first look but then I remember that Liquid had hidden strats in DreamLeague and didn't show anything there and now I don't think they can be stopped of winning this major , especially that their hidden strats were about 5 universal heroes in team or at least 4 every game.

BetBoom vs Tundra - I do see BetBoom taking the series here but if somehow AUI2000 will draft like in TI , Tundra is pretty much unstoppable.

Beastcoast vs GG - I can't bet against gg but I don't bet on them in general.

Quest vs Aster - Quest has real chances to reach semi-finals in Bali. 

[ralle14]

My over hits on the TL vs PSG series, but I feel bad for PSG when they went for that Brood carry draft during game three, and Team Liquid's snowball got faster after winning all three lanes.

BetBoom vs Tundra - I do see BetBoom taking the series here but if somehow AUI2000 will draft like in TI , Tundra is pretty much unstoppable.

Beastcoast vs GG - I can't bet against gg but I don't bet on them in general.

Quest vs Aster - Quest has real chances to reach semi-finals in Bali. 

The Betboom series went 2-0, but that mega creep comeback they pulled off in game 2 was impressive.

Beastcoast tried their best against GG as they're off to a good start going up 1-0, but the Io Lesh combo of GG is better during games two and three.

The Quest and Team Aster series is still going, but Team Aster is choking so hard in game three, and Quest is about to pull off a comeback.

[passwordnow]

Another controversy Pure of BetBoom has got in. In the stream of their match against Tundra, it was seen that he was stream-sniping while the game was paused. It was known too that he got into controversy by drawing "Z" on the map. As they've won against Tundra, their won and place in the upper bracket have been forfeited and they're now in the lower bracket facing Azure Ray. And another drama was in, AR don't want to play with them unless they're banned. If no action taken, they'll just forfeit the game.

[boltz]

Another controversy Pure of BetBoom has got in. In the stream of their match against Tundra, it was seen that he was stream-sniping while the game was paused. It was known too that he got into controversy by drawing "Z" on the map. As they've won against Tundra, their won and place in the upper bracket have been forfeited and they're now in the lower bracket facing Azure Ray. And another drama was in, AR don't want to play with them unless they're banned. If no action taken, they'll just forfeit the game.

Yea but it goes deeper than that it seems. Azure just announced that they won't play with BB as long as Pure is there and they already reported this to Valve because Epulze tried to convince them to let Pure play but that is simply against the rules because once you cheat ( no matter what cheat you used ) , you should be punished for a long period of time and you won't be able to compete in any official Valve competitions. Now , I'm curious what Valve will have to say about this incident and also what they will say about Epulze who tried to convince Azure Ray to let Pure play against them.

What a day in Dota 2 ...the drama will be big and I got my popcorn ready 

[passwordnow]

Another controversy Pure of BetBoom has got in. In the stream of their match against Tundra, it was seen that he was stream-sniping while the game was paused. It was known too that he got into controversy by drawing "Z" on the map. As they've won against Tundra, their won and place in the upper bracket have been forfeited and they're now in the lower bracket facing Azure Ray. And another drama was in, AR don't want to play with them unless they're banned. If no action taken, they'll just forfeit the game.

Yea but it goes deeper than that it seems. Azure just announced that they won't play with BB as long as Pure is there and they already reported this to Valve because Epulze tried to convince them to let Pure play but that is simply against the rules because once you cheat ( no matter what cheat you used ) , you should be punished for a long period of time and you won't be able to compete in any official Valve competitions. Now , I'm curious what Valve will have to say about this incident and also what they will say about Epulze who tried to convince Azure Ray to let Pure play against them.

What a day in Dota 2 ...the drama will be big and I got my popcorn ready  

They haven't reported it to Valve yet. They'll only report it if Pure will play but I guess this is all settled now, Pure won't play against Azure Ray, and their coach, Boolk will play for him. So there's an adjustment that's gonna happen for them. Boolk will play as pos 5 and T.Tokyo will play as the offlane(pos 3). Another thing is that I'm not sure if it's for real that 33 used Spotify app while being in-game and with that, the team is punished with a level one draft penalty but that's not really a heavy punishment and I'm thinking of it just a meme when sneyking posted it.
Or there's another stand-in aside from Boolk and that's going to be resolution that will play as their pos 3 and T.Tokyo will remain as pos 5.