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[boltz]

DPC is kicking off the day with some matches later on and can be viewed here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/matches/today

While Boom eSports are facing off with Talon at the moment:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/dota-2/epulze-dota-2/dpc-sea-tour-1/boom-esports-vs-talon-e-sports-63be92b0988a3e50e2853737

Talon are playing so great! They are a completely new team after TI and this can be seen in their last games where everything kinda works in their favor...drafts , heroes , strategies and execution.

They simply destroyed Boom in 1st game and 2nd games looks like a loop hole of previous one 

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[rdbase]

DPC is kicking off the day with some matches later on and can be viewed here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/dota-2/matches/today

While Boom eSports are facing off with Talon at the moment:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/dota-2/epulze-dota-2/dpc-sea-tour-1/boom-esports-vs-talon-e-sports-63be92b0988a3e50e2853737

Talon are playing so great! They are a completely new team after TI and this can be seen in their last games where everything kinda works in their favor...drafts , heroes , strategies and execution.

They simply destroyed Boom in 1st game and 2nd games looks like a loop hole of previous one  

Yes, I had Boom eSports to win that match but it went 0-2 to Talon. It wasn't even a challenge to them from what happened in the first map befell them in the second one.

Dota2 I heard there was a team that was playing PSG-LGD but were caught cheating using some sort of hack.
Was their team disciplined for this action. A suspension or an outright ban from competition for an extended amount of time?
In professional play this shouldn't be accepted behavior in anyway or other teams might try to do the same if they see no repercussions.

[ralle14]

I heard there was a team that was playing PSG-LGD but were caught cheating using some sort of hack.
Was their team disciplined for this action. A suspension or an outright ban from competition for an extended amount of time?
In professional play this shouldn't be accepted behavior in anyway or other teams might try to do the same if they see no repercussions.

Yup, it was Team Knights that were caught cheating.

No disciplinary action was made so far since there's no confirmation but if the evidence they gave to Valve is more than enough then they're likely out.

I doubt other players that are currently playing in the DPC would be willing to do it though since getting that small edge isn't worth it when they could lose it all. And at least Valve has to do something against it since cheats have been around for quite a while.

[passwordnow]

I heard there was a team that was playing PSG-LGD but were caught cheating using some sort of hack.
Was their team disciplined for this action. A suspension or an outright ban from competition for an extended amount of time?
In professional play this shouldn't be accepted behavior in anyway or other teams might try to do the same if they see no repercussions.

Yup, it was Team Knights that were caught cheating.

No disciplinary action was made so far since there's no confirmation but if the evidence they gave to Valve is more than enough then they're likely out.

I doubt other players that are currently playing in the DPC would be willing to do it though since getting that small edge isn't worth it when they could lose it all. And at least Valve has to do something against it since cheats have been around for quite a while.

I've read that it was an official cheat and Perfect World has also sent the accusation to Valve for which the action will be heavier and taken more seriously.
They're never scared of the sanction and it will cost them their entire career. I can remember the Malaysian team(arrow gaming) and players that have been involved in a match-fixing. They were very promising during that time but ended up too soon when they got involved in the issue and now, they can just join those mini tournaments that are not managed by Valve and other big organizers.

[rdbase]

I heard there was a team that was playing PSG-LGD but were caught cheating using some sort of hack.
Was their team disciplined for this action. A suspension or an outright ban from competition for an extended amount of time?
In professional play this shouldn't be accepted behavior in anyway or other teams might try to do the same if they see no repercussions.

Yup, it was Team Knights that were caught cheating.

No disciplinary action was made so far since there's no confirmation but if the evidence they gave to Valve is more than enough then they're likely out.

I doubt other players that are currently playing in the DPC would be willing to do it though since getting that small edge isn't worth it when they could lose it all. And at least Valve has to do something against it since cheats have been around for quite a while.

I've read that it was an official cheat and Perfect World has also sent the accusation to Valve for which the action will be heavier and taken more seriously.
They're never scared of the sanction and it will cost them their entire career. I can remember the Malaysian team(arrow gaming) and players that have been involved in a match-fixing. They were very promising during that time but ended up too soon when they got involved in the issue and now, they can just join those mini tournaments that are not managed by Valve and other big organizers.

That is some serious stuff. Thank you @ralle14 & passwordnow for the info on this news on the DOTA2 match fixing accusation on team knights.
Just hope all who bet on PSG-LGD got their betslips refunded or void from their accas.

On to some Counter strike play we have European pro league tournament in their group stages for today:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/counter-strike/european-pro-league/european-pro-league-group-stage/matches

[passwordnow]

I've read that it was an official cheat and Perfect World has also sent the accusation to Valve for which the action will be heavier and taken more seriously.
They're never scared of the sanction and it will cost them their entire career. I can remember the Malaysian team(arrow gaming) and players that have been involved in a match-fixing. They were very promising during that time but ended up too soon when they got involved in the issue and now, they can just join those mini tournaments that are not managed by Valve and other big organizers.

That is some serious stuff. Thank you @ralle14 & passwordnow for the info on this news on the DOTA2 match fixing accusation on team knights.
Just hope all who bet on PSG-LGD got their betslips refunded or void from their accas.

No problem. 
I've just thought that it may not be refunded for some since it's likely that the winning might already be sent and spent by those who have received it.
But it should have been voided earlier in the first place if there are bookies that are aware of it but I guess, they can't adjust too quick when it's on the process and investigation on it.

[jakelyson]

I've read that it was an official cheat and Perfect World has also sent the accusation to Valve for which the action will be heavier and taken more seriously.
They're never scared of the sanction and it will cost them their entire career. I can remember the Malaysian team(arrow gaming) and players that have been involved in a match-fixing. They were very promising during that time but ended up too soon when they got involved in the issue and now, they can just join those mini tournaments that are not managed by Valve and other big organizers.

That is some serious stuff. Thank you @ralle14 & passwordnow for the info on this news on the DOTA2 match fixing accusation on team knights.
Just hope all who bet on PSG-LGD got their betslips refunded or void from their accas.

No problem. 
I've just thought that it may not be refunded for some since it's likely that the winning might already be sent and spent by those who have received it.
But it should have been voided earlier in the first place if there are bookies that are aware of it but I guess, they can't adjust too quick when it's on the process and investigation on it.

 I am not aware of the cheating but if the dispute was filed after the game, then bookies have no control over it. Normally, online bookies instantly send payments to the winners so even if PSG filed a complaint and proved, the payment was already paid. I do not think the bookies will return any money. It is what it is for now. Let's hope there is no more cheating done. There is so many cheatings done this season. This season even opened with a series of bans.

[STT]

2 matches of more interest today, Genk vs Eternal fire which I would expect to go to Xantares and friends however there is the question of 3 maps or 2 for that series.   Possibly combine that with a bet on Falcons vs Sinners and I think that one could go to 3 maps.  I think I will keep them seperate Im really not sure on the Falcons capability just yet
I think combine with Endpoint win is better choice and Mibr to win also

[boltz]

Any news on the cheating scandal regarding Knights ? Seems everything went quite quiet lately.

Today , a lot of great games indeed. First , we have Talon , a team reshaped after TI and kinda dominating in SEA DPC so far and 23Savage seems happier than ever and I enjoy this.

Next is Fnatic Vs SMG - a game that should go to 3 maps but we will see.


EDIT : Talon game was a 322 vs 644 vs 966 ...dota 2 players will understand   

[passwordnow]

No problem. 
I've just thought that it may not be refunded for some since it's likely that the winning might already be sent and spent by those who have received it.
But it should have been voided earlier in the first place if there are bookies that are aware of it but I guess, they can't adjust too quick when it's on the process and investigation on it.

 I am not aware of the cheating but if the dispute was filed after the game, then bookies have no control over it. Normally, online bookies instantly send payments to the winners so even if PSG filed a complaint and proved, the payment was already paid. I do not think the bookies will return any money. It is what it is for now. Let's hope there is no more cheating done. There is so many cheatings done this season. This season even opened with a series of bans.

I doubt that there will be no more cheating that's going to exist. Despite of the issue, still, the team Knights managed to still have a match and they won against XG.
These players are the caliber of division 1 yet they still have been detected of cheating and, with the proper investigation ongoing, they'd still be given a chance to compete. I don't know how it's going right now but if proven to be guilty, they should have given the verdict of disqualification.

[dothebeats]

Any news on the cheating scandal regarding Knights ? Seems everything went quite quiet lately.

It seems like all the noise already reduced to nothingness. Haven't really read anything about it today, which is kinda weird because this is DPC and people should make a fuss about it given that it's a big thing. Quite disappointed with Valve for not being proactive in the situation really.

Today , a lot of great games indeed. First , we have Talon , a team reshaped after TI and kinda dominating in SEA DPC so far and 23Savage seems happier than ever and I enjoy this.

EDIT : Talon game was a 322 vs 644 vs 966 ...dota 2 players will understand   

I don't think Talon players have the guts to partake on a 322. Huge careers on the line and they already established themselves in the highest scene for dota. They might seem to make questionable plays at times but that's SEA dota being SEA dota - weird shit will always happen

[jakelyson]

While in DPC WEU Tour 1, Into the Breach pulled an upset against the reigning TI Champion, Tundra on their game 1. It was total carnage with the score. 51-5. Tundra is rather performing really inconsistently this DPC season, and they are playing like they are not the TI champion. They did not have any changes in their roster, so chemistry is not the problem. I do not know the problem, but they should fix it.

They were able to win game 2 and Game 3 is on the way. It is still a close match but ITB is on the lead right now.

[dothebeats]

While in DPC WEU Tour 1, Into the Breach pulled an upset against the reigning TI Champion, Tundra on their game 1. It was total carnage with the score. 51-5. Tundra is rather performing really inconsistently this DPC season, and they are playing like they are not the TI champion. They did not have any changes in their roster, so chemistry is not the problem. I do not know the problem, but they should fix it.

They were able to win game 2 and Game 3 is on the way. It is still a close match but ITB is on the lead right now.

ITB's teamfight dynamics is extremely impressive. Down by almost 20k in game 3 but they make Tundra look like they're far ahead in items and literally just everything. Great usage and timing of skills from ITB, and this version of Tundra post-TI seems to be scrambling to get their shit together especially on teamfights. Really hard to win against a Naga pick with Lesh being the most reliable wave clear, and you can't really expose this hero on the lane most of the time because you need him to be in team fights, otherwise any fight you'll be taking without the Lesh is a suicide mission.

[jakelyson]

While in DPC WEU Tour 1, Into the Breach pulled an upset against the reigning TI Champion, Tundra on their game 1. It was total carnage with the score. 51-5. Tundra is rather performing really inconsistently this DPC season, and they are playing like they are not the TI champion. They did not have any changes in their roster, so chemistry is not the problem. I do not know the problem, but they should fix it.

They were able to win game 2 and Game 3 is on the way. It is still a close match but ITB is on the lead right now.

ITB's teamfight dynamics is extremely impressive. Down by almost 20k in game 3 but they make Tundra look like they're far ahead in items and literally just everything. Great usage and timing of skills from ITB, and this version of Tundra post-TI seems to be scrambling to get their shit together especially on teamfights. Really hard to win against a Naga pick with Lesh being the most reliable wave clear, and you can't really expose this hero on the lane most of the time because you need him to be in team fights, otherwise any fight you'll be taking without the Lesh is a suicide mission.

29K lead and they just got the Rosh, this game will definitely be Tundra. Credit to ITB for giving a good fight even when they are down most of the time in Game 3. Their high-ground defense is awesome. Tundra is still having a hard time pushing the high ground even with the lead they have. Given more time, ITB will be a real threat to WEU teams. Their dynamics, as you said, is impressive and would probably improve more as the DPC season progresses.

[ralle14]

It seems like all the noise already reduced to nothingness. Haven't really read anything about it today, which is kinda weird because this is DPC and people should make a fuss about it given that it's a big thing. Quite disappointed with Valve for not being proactive in the situation really.

I'm guessing the evidence that was given to Valve wasn't enough to determine if they were actually cheating even though there were hints already. At least they're still keeping up their level of play though, and managed to beat XG a few days ago.

Tundra is rather performing really inconsistently this DPC season, and they are playing like they are not the TI champion. They did not have any changes in their roster, so chemistry is not the problem. I do not know the problem, but they should fix it.

I agree they started off strong on their first series and after that things slowly got shaky for them. I'd assume one of the main reasons why they're struggling is due to the nerf from the Wraith Pact as they used to thrive with that item and go with lineups that have faster timings.

[boltz]

Riki is the new meta it seems! It's been so damn long for this hero to finally shine again and this patch , if you have time in weekend to play a game with Riki , please do , it's mega fun! No wonder why , even Tundra has strategies involving Riki and they turned the game around in their favor last night , as they were down 1-0 , picked Riki twice and won by 2-1.

Knights vs Aries should be a great game CN DPC Winter that is about to begin in aprox 1 hour.

[dothebeats]

ITB's teamfight dynamics is extremely impressive. Down by almost 20k in game 3 but they make Tundra look like they're far ahead in items and literally just everything. Great usage and timing of skills from ITB, and this version of Tundra post-TI seems to be scrambling to get their shit together especially on teamfights. Really hard to win against a Naga pick with Lesh being the most reliable wave clear, and you can't really expose this hero on the lane most of the time because you need him to be in team fights, otherwise any fight you'll be taking without the Lesh is a suicide mission.

29K lead and they just got the Rosh, this game will definitely be Tundra. Credit to ITB for giving a good fight even when they are down most of the time in Game 3. Their high-ground defense is awesome. Tundra is still having a hard time pushing the high ground even with the lead they have. Given more time, ITB will be a real threat to WEU teams. Their dynamics, as you said, is impressive and would probably improve more as the DPC season progresses.

Crazy that a 6-slotted Naga siren and a Scythe Tidehunter cannot crack that high ground defense early on against a Lesh without the help of a shard.

ITB will surely mature into a more developed team if they continue joining Tier 2 tournaments. As of late, they're only exposed against tier 3 teams and IMO that's not enough training ground for them to really hone their skills. But individually, they really have a good understanding of Dota, they just have to push through with what they know and keep on grinding.

It seems like all the noise already reduced to nothingness. Haven't really read anything about it today, which is kinda weird because this is DPC and people should make a fuss about it given that it's a big thing. Quite disappointed with Valve for not being proactive in the situation really.

I'm guessing the evidence that was given to Valve wasn't enough to determine if they were actually cheating even though there were hints already. At least they're still keeping up their level of play though, and managed to beat XG a few days ago.

Maybe. That or Valve is still under investigating everything on the client side. When it comes to throwing matches, they can easily figure those out, but it's weird when it comes to cheating allegations they can't really give a fast and definite answer to the allegations. If I were Valve, I will be releasing a statement as soon as I know whether a team cheated or not.

Riki is the new meta it seems! It's been so damn long for this hero to finally shine again and this patch , if you have time in weekend to play a game with Riki , please do , it's mega fun! No wonder why , even Tundra has strategies involving Riki and they turned the game around in their favor last night , as they were down 1-0 , picked Riki twice and won by 2-1.

Hah! Been spamming Riki for a week now as pos 4 and I can say that early shard to get the sleeping dart is something cool. It helps you land perfect timings and disable enemies for 4 (or 5?) seconds while the rest of your team cleans up the team fight. A really great support hero this patch and it's a good thing that they're now realizing its viability in high level games.

[passwordnow]

Riki is the new meta it seems! It's been so damn long for this hero to finally shine again and this patch , if you have time in weekend to play a game with Riki , please do , it's mega fun! No wonder why , even Tundra has strategies involving Riki and they turned the game around in their favor last night , as they were down 1-0 , picked Riki twice and won by 2-1.

Yeah, that sleeping dart is a sure disable for the target although it's only targeting one hero but it's very helpful. I've done the new meta and it's really fun to use as a support. I've first seen this used by Q I think on the opening of the first games for the SEA DPC season.

Knights vs Aries should be a great game CN DPC Winter that is about to begin in aprox 1 hour.

It's live now, Aries has to win this series as they're one of the bottom two in the score board.

[ralle14]

That third game between Knights vs Aster.Aries was fun to watch as the networth lead kept swinging back and forth. I honestly thought Knights were going to lose the series since the last time they picked Drow they lost but Alacrity's Puck was doing some insane heavy lifting and the book of the dead neutral item gave the team enough chance to pressure the enemy base during the late game phase.

I'm thinking of betting on Entity @1.75 a few days back the odds were hovering around above 2.00 and I still think the odds are good enough now that they're up against one of the worst teams.

[jakelyson]

Riki is the new meta it seems! It's been so damn long for this hero to finally shine again and this patch , if you have time in weekend to play a game with Riki , please do , it's mega fun! No wonder why , even Tundra has strategies involving Riki and they turned the game around in their favor last night , as they were down 1-0 , picked Riki twice and won by 2-1.

Knights vs Aries should be a great game CN DPC Winter that is about to begin in aprox 1 hour.

I watched this match and Tundra was murdered on the first map. I think the score was 5-51 in favor of ITB. And even on the maps where Tundra won, ITB was putting up a good game against them. Tundra is not quite on point at the current meta and they are still very shaky on their gameplay.

I am not playing DOTA anymore, so I am not familiar with how Riki works now. Maybe I will try this weekend to go back playing this.

I'm thinking of betting on Entity @1.75 a few days back the odds were hovering around above 2.00 and I still think the odds are good enough now that they're up against one of the worst teams.

I am taking that action. The odds of Entity against Secret is still @ 1.75. I think it is a good odds but a bit risky. I am not betting on Secret to win anytime soon but they might surprise us. They started very poorly but they had a few days rest. So maybe they have come out with a new strat or they are playing better now with BOOM. I hope NOT because I bet against them.