ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[passwordnow]

Yeah, we can't ignore Mouz could be the darkhorse on this tournament despite that the big two teams are awaiting on the next bracket. And they had a good run for the most recent tournament being the champ of the PGL Wallachia but they have seleri now instead of kaori, I think that kaori is more fit and did great as a stand in. If I am going to bet with Tundra games, I'm not sure if I'd go with the ml.

Same thoughts, I think their ceiling slightly went down with Seleri, but then again, they did manage to avoid a few top teams like Tundra and Parivision during their run in Wallachia, so it's hard to say for sure.

Still, i'd rather fade Mouz for now unless I see Tundra force another Kez draft like last time.

We'll see that and Mouz has to survive first against NaVi. But I think that they'd be able to survive from them although, Navi is also a good team and I admire this team's patience. Even if they are down, they're so patient that they're slowing down the game and can recover through good team fights. On the other team, OG and Yandex. Both are good team and Yandex is just a simple one but is also packed with good roster. I can't decide yet although we've got 4 days to think of which we'd bet on the playoffs. I just hope no Visa issues for most of them.

[Pumared]

From the first stage, the best Brazilian team by far was Imperial. This is largely based on what I said here about observing what Furia is doing and applying it to their games, but Imperial likes to implement tactics in their own way. And Chelo has been performing very well; he only plays well when he's under pressure, incredible. And what do you all think of the major matches?

[arallmuus]

Same thoughts, I think their ceiling slightly went down with Seleri, but then again, they did manage to avoid a few top teams like Tundra and Parivision during their run in Wallachia, so it's hard to say for sure.

This is my reason on why I didnt include them on my list for BSFL and this decision cost me the 3 points. Man its a shame for me that I couldnt get any points from dota2 question there. It really was a silly mistake from me

Im still regretting my decision by trusting two chinese teams there. I skipped OG because their teams are essentially SEA players and actually there are teams like Navi that could make it to my list but somehow I was blinded by these chinese teams 

Both are good team and Yandex is just a simple one but is also packed with good roster.

Still cant believe that Yandex actually make it through after getting back against XG. XG won the 1st map but Yandex managed to get the 2nd map. XG really made mistake on the 3rd map, they were leading for abit but Yandex really was way better in teamfight

[finaleshot2016]

Anyone looking eyeing out Game Changer 2025? TL Brazil is a solid team right now. TL vs G2 later.

ez bet, they're stacked and dominated the whole playoffs. TLB is the champ!

Valorant also seems to have a lot more female players than CS as well, but I don't have any data to back this off.

I agree, the VCT Game changers really fit the community since many women are playing Valorant, even if we don't have the data, you can see on twitch streams, there's a lot of women. It's normal to riot games, even in the past, league of legends is full of women too, it's like the community is very diverse, that's how they market the game. Now, they did the same thing to valorant, they market the game to all, they released heroes (with diff genders and stuff), girly stuff skins and of course marketing music videos that will make women play the game. It's fun to watch women league, they are also try hard gamers like men, very competitive and always do sweaty playstyles, as long as they're above the average or top 5% of the players, then it's still amazing to watch those.

I think the issue of the community on this tourna is about the transgender playing the game, I don't know if they already accepted that but yah, most of the top-rated players in Women league are trans.

[rohang]

Anyone looking eyeing out Game Changer 2025? TL Brazil is a solid team right now. TL vs G2 later.

ez bet, they're stacked and dominated the whole playoffs. TLB is the champ!

Valorant also seems to have a lot more female players than CS as well, but I don't have any data to back this off.

I agree, the VCT Game changers really fit the community since many women are playing Valorant, even if we don't have the data, you can see on twitch streams, there's a lot of women. It's normal to riot games, even in the past, league of legends is full of women too, it's like the community is very diverse, that's how they market the game. Now, they did the same thing to valorant, they market the game to all, they released heroes (with diff genders and stuff), girly stuff skins and of course marketing music videos that will make women play the game. It's fun to watch women league, they are also try hard gamers like men, very competitive and always do sweaty playstyles, as long as they're above the average or top 5% of the players, then it's still amazing to watch those.

I think the issue of the community on this tourna is about the transgender playing the game, I don't know if they already accepted that but yah, most of the top-rated players in Women league are trans.

Valorant has Female leagues backed by Riot while CS is on the whims of ESL, who have also recently stopped all Female tournaments, the ESL Impact leagues and LANs, we might see some of the CS female players switch to Valo and certainly do well there

CS major is going on right now with last day of stage 2 today, So far navi and faze went 3-0 to move on to stage 3 while 3 more 3-2 spots are available today, next stage starts on Thursday!!

[rohang]

Anyone looking eyeing out Game Changer 2025? TL Brazil is a solid team right now. TL vs G2 later.

ez bet, they're stacked and dominated the whole playoffs. TLB is the champ!

Valorant also seems to have a lot more female players than CS as well, but I don't have any data to back this off.

I agree, the VCT Game changers really fit the community since many women are playing Valorant, even if we don't have the data, you can see on twitch streams, there's a lot of women. It's normal to riot games, even in the past, league of legends is full of women too, it's like the community is very diverse, that's how they market the game. Now, they did the same thing to valorant, they market the game to all, they released heroes (with diff genders and stuff), girly stuff skins and of course marketing music videos that will make women play the game. It's fun to watch women league, they are also try hard gamers like men, very competitive and always do sweaty playstyles, as long as they're above the average or top 5% of the players, then it's still amazing to watch those.

I think the issue of the community on this tourna is about the transgender playing the game, I don't know if they already accepted that but yah, most of the top-rated players in Women league are trans.

Valorant has Female leagues backed by Riot while CS is on the whims of ESL, who have also recently stopped all Female tournaments, the ESL Impact leagues and LANs, we might see some of the CS female players switch to Valo and certainly do well there

CS major is going on right now with last day of stage 2 today, So far navi and faze went 3-0 to move on to stage 3 while 3 more 3-2 spots are available today, next stage starts on Thursday!!

Pretty surprising final day as expected to win teams lost,
Passion beating m80
Liquid beating astralis after their heavy choke vs tyloo
3dmax beating NIP 2-0 after nip had a 2-0 start in stage 2 

Stage 3 starts in just about 22 hours!!

[Pumared]

Tomorrow a new phase of the CS Major begins. What are your expectations for these first matches? I believe that of the Brazilian matchups, Imperial should be the most difficult, even though FURIA is facing Navi. What do you think? Are there any other good matchups to watch?

[passwordnow]

Are there fans of Parivision fans here? I think one of the reasons of their success on their run is with their coach and how he's giving his insights on how the team plays. And just today, he's out of the team. Their coach 'Astini' has said his farewell to the team. I think one of the reasons is that he's from South America and the team roster is mostly from the EEU. So, I think Parivision will get a coach from the same region for easier comms.

[rdbase]

Not sure how I missed this news at the end of last month. Faze released Rain at their last major having everybody thinking he was retiring. But he actually signed with 100 Thieves instead.
Who the other members of this team will consist of hasn't been released yet as it seems they will be rebuilding their squad around him.

https://www.hltv.org/news/43077/media-rain-signs-for-100-thieves

Tomorrow a new phase of the CS Major begins. What are your expectations for these first matches? I believe that of the Brazilian matchups, Imperial should be the most difficult, even though FURIA is facing Navi. What do you think? Are there any other good matchups to watch?

Today there were not any matches for this tournament but we will have them startup again tomorrow.
Thinking that the underdogs will surprise us once more during these matchups.
Hope we will see both FURIA and Imperial make it through.

[ralle14]

Tomorrow a new phase of the CS Major begins. What are your expectations for these first matches? I believe that of the Brazilian matchups, Imperial should be the most difficult, even though FURIA is facing Navi. What do you think? Are there any other good matchups to watch?

We also have the FaZe vs. Vitality and B8 vs. Falcons matches. Even though this should be like a free win for both tier one teams, it's still a scary spot because we've seen other decent teams in the previous stage start a bit shaky and then wake up in the mid to late rounds.

3dmax beating NIP 2-0 after nip had a 2-0 start in stage 2 

That reverse run from NiP was diabolical. I still thought they were the better team in that matchup, but they didn't show up at all.

[rdbase]

Just put in my bets for the early matches of this Starladder tournament kicking off in the 20 minutes.
MOUZ vs Parivision
Mongolz vs Imperial
G2 Esports vs Passion UA
Team Spirit vs Team Liquid

Took all the favorites for these early group stage 3 games.
So unfortunately, I didn't take the Brazilian squad to win their matchup today @Pumared  

Noticed pAIN Gaming are playing against 3DMAX today so there is another team from Brazil for you to root for in these final group stages before they end and the swiss rounds begin.

[Pumared]

Just put in my bets for the early matches of this Starladder tournament kicking off in the 20 minutes.
MOUZ vs Parivision
Mongolz vs Imperial
G2 Esports vs Passion UA
Team Spirit vs Team Liquid

Took all the favorites for these early group stage 3 games.
So unfortunately, I didn't take the Brazilian squad to win their matchup today @Pumared  

Noticed pAIN Gaming are playing against 3DMAX today so there is another team from Brazil for you to root for in these final group stages before they end and the swiss rounds begin.

Well, my great friend @Rdbase should have. Imperial surprised everyone, except me, who was already expecting it. But I confess it was a very close game, and it's normal to think they would lose, I agree. But the Brazilian Storm arrived.

[ralle14]

Are there fans of Parivision fans here? I think one of the reasons of their success on their run is with their coach and how he's giving his insights on how the team plays. And just today, he's out of the team. Their coach 'Astini' has said his farewell to the team. I think one of the reasons is that he's from South America and the team roster is mostly from the EEU. So, I think Parivision will get a coach from the same region for easier comms.

I overlooked this news, and I agree, their coach chiming in during the drafts was crucial because one of the comments in that post pointed out that in their recent tournament, Astini said something along the lines of the team not listening to him anymore, so that's why he left out of the blue.

Just put in my bets for the early matches of this Starladder tournament kicking off in the 20 minutes.

Hopefully, those were all singles because the MongolZ were the only team that came short. They played so rusty, losing rounds with the man advantage until things slipped away in overtime.

[boltz]

So , Gaimin Gladiators new dota 2 rooster ? Uhm with Astini leaving PariVision and join a new team of GG ? Why would he leave PariVision and especially the best young talent in the world Satanic to go into a grey area zone of GG when nothing it's assured in the next year. We all saw how they exit Dota 2 before TI and at this point , they have the guts to make a new team while the old players are pressing legal charges against the org. 

[ralle14]

So , Gaimin Gladiators new dota 2 rooster ? Uhm with Astini leaving PariVision and join a new team of GG ? Why would he leave PariVision and especially the best young talent in the world Satanic to go into a grey area zone of GG when nothing it's assured in the next year. We all saw how they exit Dota 2 before TI and at this point , they have the guts to make a new team while the old players are pressing legal charges against the org. 

I can't find anything about GG's new roster, but I guess it's better for him as a coach when he's given full rein in the coaching department. If i'm in his shoes, i'd do the same instead of enduring that unbearable environment at Parivision.

That roster from GG will surely be a step down, but it's not the end of the world for him since he could use it as a filler while waiting for an opportunity in the future, once a tier one team starts looking for a coach.

[rdbase]

Just put in my bets for the early matches of this Starladder tournament kicking off in the 20 minutes.
MOUZ vs Parivision
Mongolz vs Imperial
G2 Esports vs Passion UA
Team Spirit vs Team Liquid

Took all the favorites for these early group stage 3 games.
So unfortunately, I didn't take the Brazilian squad to win their matchup today @Pumared  

Noticed pAIN Gaming are playing against 3DMAX today so there is another team from Brazil for you to root for in these final group stages before they end and the swiss rounds begin.

Well, my great friend @rdbase should have. Imperial surprised everyone, except me, who was already expecting it. But I confess it was a very close game, and it's normal to think they would lose, I agree. But the Brazilian Storm arrived.

It started out weird yesterday after I placed my bets with that Imperial win over the MongolZ then it went down hill from there.
With FaZe taken down Vitality without a wimper 13-7 and Falcons goes down to B8 13-10.
But then the ship got straighten for the rest of the matches of the day with all the favorites winning.

Today seeing Vitality beating on B8 11-2 right now shows me the favorites should all win their matches, hopefully.
Imperial take on Falcons in the next 25 minutes who are heavy underdogs @5.00x for the Brazilians.
Can they make another miracle today?

The rest of the matches are as follows:
paiN Gaming vs Navi, MOUZ vs Spirit, Passion UA vs Liquid, FURIA vs G2 and Parivision vs 3DMAX.

[passwordnow]

Are there fans of Parivision fans here? I think one of the reasons of their success on their run is with their coach and how he's giving his insights on how the team plays. And just today, he's out of the team. Their coach 'Astini' has said his farewell to the team. I think one of the reasons is that he's from South America and the team roster is mostly from the EEU. So, I think Parivision will get a coach from the same region for easier comms.

I overlooked this news, and I agree, their coach chiming in during the drafts was crucial because one of the comments in that post pointed out that in their recent tournament, Astini said something along the lines of the team not listening to him anymore, so that's why he left out of the blue.

It's an ego issue from the players and if they're no longer coachable during the draft phase and they're not listening, it's really best for Astini to leave the team. They have already forgotten who's with them during their early times and helped them in the beginning of their achievements.

So , Gaimin Gladiators new dota 2 rooster ? Uhm with Astini leaving PariVision and join a new team of GG ? Why would he leave PariVision and especially the best young talent in the world Satanic to go into a grey area zone of GG when nothing it's assured in the next year. We all saw how they exit Dota 2 before TI and at this point , they have the guts to make a new team while the old players are pressing legal charges against the org. 

I am not sure if Astini is going to go with the new possible GG roster and I haven't seen any news about GG going back to dota 2. I think ralle explained it well why he has to leave Pari.

[rdbase]

After Lukas Rossander or from his call sign ⁠gla1ve⁠ in the CounterStrike arena retired from the profession of Esports two years ago.
https://blix.gg/news/cs-2/gla1ve-retires-as-a-player

It was announced a few day ago he would be returning but instead in a role as coach:
https://www.dust2.us/news/68339/media-100-thieves-to-sign-gla1ve-as-new-head-coach

So now we know who Rain will be playing under on the newly formed 100 Thieves.
Looks like they decided to build around top tiered players instead from the ground up.

Today we have Swiss round 4 for the tournament in Budapest and are back to best of 3 matches between the following teams:
Navi vs Vitality
B8 vs paiN
MOUZ vs Falcons
Passion UA vs Imperial
G2 vs The MongolZ
3DMAX vs FaZe

Rather place bets on these BO3 matchups instead of the pickems we have had the past several days during this tournament. As there are more chances of upsets happening in this format.

[LastKiss]

Honestly, I didn’t expect Team Yandex to sweep Team Falcon 2–0 in the semifinals. Both teams played well, but Yandex clearly played better in that match. Now for the Grand Final, it’s looking like a 33 vs Saksa battle. My prediction is a 3–1 victory for Tundra.

What your prediction for this Grand Final?

[rdbase]

Both FURIA and Team Spirit are on their way to the Starladder major playoffs in Budapest:



We have some matches to get done today for this stage so let's look at them:
B8 vs Natus Vincere
FaZe vs Passion UA
G2 Esports vs Team Falcons

I had bet against B8 before and regretted it so I would say this one would atleast go over 2.5 maps since these rounds are a best of 3.
As for the next two matches after this initial one which begins in the next 42 minutes, I would say FaZe Clan and Team Falcons should win both their matches as to end this stage 3 strong.
Both are favorites and their odds are Faze 1.42x and Falcons 1.33x respectively.