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April 27, 2025, 12:03:06 PM
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Really good documentary of how Falcons got from there to where they are now with just buying up other team's star players but not doing so well without that team cohesion needed to make a championship level squad in Esports.
This is common in esports, this is also how the teams are earning money from their players. Buying out their contracts are one of the lucrative ways to earn a lot of money there. The same thing has done in dota 2 that there were teams have bought contracts and rights for their players and some teams have even sold their actual team slots for tournaments. Well, this is part of the business and if NaVi is also a losing team in cs2, the same goes for their dota 2 roster.
But doing it across to other esport leagues is something different altogether.
It reminds me of what happened to Faze Clan and what their owner was doing over all those years.

IEM Grand Finals are underway and it seems that Team Falcons are giving Team Vitality a run right now and just about to take another map away from them. 11-5 Falcons last I checked.

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April 27, 2025, 10:17:02 PM
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Really good documentary of how Falcons got from there to where they are now with just buying up other team's star players but not doing so well without that team cohesion needed to make a championship level squad in Esports.
This is common in esports, this is also how the teams are earning money from their players. Buying out their contracts are one of the lucrative ways to earn a lot of money there. The same thing has done in dota 2 that there were teams have bought contracts and rights for their players and some teams have even sold their actual team slots for tournaments. Well, this is part of the business and if NaVi is also a losing team in cs2, the same goes for their dota 2 roster.
But doing it across to other esport leagues is something different altogether.
It reminds me of what happened to Faze Clan and what their owner was doing over all those years.
It might be different but that has been part of their business and that's why still some teams are leaving dota2/cs2 and jumping to the other with this kind of business if the team isn't successful getting those championships.

IEM Grand Finals are underway and it seems that Team Falcons are giving Team Vitality a run right now and just about to take another map away from them. 11-5 Falcons last I checked.
It's now done, we've got a champ and that's the Team Vitality. It was a close fight on the nuke map and Team Vitality just shown who's better. There are a lot of tournament line ups for cs2 and the next that I am seeing is PGL Astana.

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April 27, 2025, 11:55:27 PM
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^^
At one point it was 12-6 for Falcons on the final map and they managed to F*it up so badly!
Started watching them while in OT and it went back and forth but Vitality prevailed in the end.

Zywoo got the tournament's MVP award with that Team Vitality win!

https://www.hltv.org/news/41555/zywoo-named-iem-melbourne-mvp-tc

So how many consecutive map wins did they end up with? They didn't surpass 23 for the next title which Astrallis had.

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April 28, 2025, 12:32:42 AM
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^^
At one point it was 12-6 for Falcons on the final map and they managed to F*it up so badly!
Started watching them while in OT and it went back and forth but Vitality prevailed in the end.

Zywoo got the tournament's MVP award with that Team Vitality win!

https://www.hltv.org/news/41555/zywoo-named-iem-melbourne-mvp-tc

So how many consecutive map wins did they end up with? They didn't surpass 23 for the next title which Astrallis had.
What a comeback for Team Vitality with that score. Falcons didn't managed to protect their lead when it happened. And as for Zywoo, congratulations to him. He's got a 1.39 rating and I have no idea what the others rating are and I don't see any incentive for being the MVP on the IEM Melbourne. Is there a prize money for him? because in dota 2, there are prize money for the ones who makes these MVP awards and other awardees.

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April 28, 2025, 07:44:54 AM
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What a comeback for Team Vitality with that score. Falcons didn't managed to protect their lead when it happened. And as for Zywoo, congratulations to him. He's got a 1.39 rating and I have no idea what the others rating are and I don't see any incentive for being the MVP on the IEM Melbourne. Is there a prize money for him? because in dota 2, there are prize money for the ones who makes these MVP awards and other awardees.
There's probably no MVP prize for this tourney, but they did walk away with an extra $1m because of the ESL Grand Slam bounty.

Also, the grand finals of PGL Wallachia were a banger. Team Liquid needed a game five before they could close out the series, and that final game was like on a knife's edge because Liquid took forever before they could siege the high ground while Pari kept backdooring at their base one rax at a time.

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April 28, 2025, 10:59:25 AM
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What a comeback for Team Vitality with that score. Falcons didn't managed to protect their lead when it happened. And as for Zywoo, congratulations to him. He's got a 1.39 rating and I have no idea what the others rating are and I don't see any incentive for being the MVP on the IEM Melbourne. Is there a prize money for him? because in dota 2, there are prize money for the ones who makes these MVP awards and other awardees.
There's probably no MVP prize for this tourney, but they did walk away with an extra $1m because of the ESL Grand Slam bounty.
I didn't know this but that's more than what the typical MVP prize so, it's a team effort and with the team's management too probably are getting a share with that money.

Also, the grand finals of PGL Wallachia were a banger. Team Liquid needed a game five before they could close out the series, and that final game was like on a knife's edge because Liquid took forever before they could siege the high ground while Pari kept backdooring at their base one rax at a time.
That's a tiring game, that strategy is hard to beat but Team Liquid managed to counter that. Most of the games that were just ratting in an exhausting game was tiring and just typically give up in a base race to mega creeps.

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April 28, 2025, 01:54:38 PM
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That's a tiring game, that strategy is hard to beat but Team Liquid managed to counter that. Most of the games that were just ratting in an exhausting game was tiring and just typically give up in a base race to mega creeps.
It was crazy how Parivision nearly got that game when most of their damage came from Satanic's NP, but it quickly backfired when they tried to force a clash in the midlane instead of ratting the remaining barracks to secure megas.

Also, in a few days, it looks like we have another CS2 tournament (Blast Rivals) with a bunch of top teams participating, and Group B could get spicy with Falcons and Spirit likely fighting for that top seed.

I didn't know this but that's more than what the typical MVP prize so, it's a team effort and with the team's management too probably are getting a share with that money.
Yep, it's equivalent to winning two major tournaments, and it was the final tournament of the Grand Slam season, so no wonder they suddenly pulled a comeback on that final map.

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April 29, 2025, 12:27:27 PM
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What a comeback for Team Vitality with that score. Falcons didn't managed to protect their lead when it happened. And as for Zywoo, congratulations to him. He's got a 1.39 rating and I have no idea what the others rating are and I don't see any incentive for being the MVP on the IEM Melbourne. Is there a prize money for him? because in dota 2, there are prize money for the ones who makes these MVP awards and other awardees.
There's probably no MVP prize for this tourney, but they did walk away with an extra $1m because of the ESL Grand Slam bounty.

Also, the grand finals of PGL Wallachia were a banger. Team Liquid needed a game five before they could close out the series, and that final game was like on a knife's edge because Liquid took forever before they could siege the high ground while Pari kept backdooring at their base one rax at a time.
One million is a huge prize to receive and basically a bonus since it was ontop of what they have won for that tournament. But understandable since it was the final tournament of the grand slam season.
Vitality does deserve it and still goes to show Falcons that buying up all the best talent doesn't necessarily mean instant trophies through out the year.

Blast Rivals does sound new and possibly a rebranding from a tournament since reitired.
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April 29, 2025, 09:55:53 PM
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That's a tiring game, that strategy is hard to beat but Team Liquid managed to counter that. Most of the games that were just ratting in an exhausting game was tiring and just typically give up in a base race to mega creeps.
It was crazy how Parivision nearly got that game when most of their damage came from Satanic's NP, but it quickly backfired when they tried to force a clash in the midlane instead of ratting the remaining barracks to secure megas.
I agree, they should have seen that strat worked and they should end the game with that style but well, a mistake and a crucial match that is infuriating their minds, it's more of a game of patience and Team Liquid has it.

Also, in a few days, it looks like we have another CS2 tournament (Blast Rivals) with a bunch of top teams participating, and Group B could get spicy with Falcons and Spirit likely fighting for that top seed.
Thanks, I'll check this out too.

I didn't know this but that's more than what the typical MVP prize so, it's a team effort and with the team's management too probably are getting a share with that money.
Yep, it's equivalent to winning two major tournaments, and it was the final tournament of the Grand Slam season, so no wonder they suddenly pulled a comeback on that final map.
That's nice of them, they likely got two birds with one stone. It's good to see that the prizes for CS2 tourneys are increasing.

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April 30, 2025, 10:17:53 AM
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Blast Rivals tournament has started today with Team Spirit vs FlyQuest.
Haven't not seen FQ play too often I can't say too much on how I expect them to perform in this contest.
But with Spirit am hoping that Donk can outperform their rivals so to move through the competition quickly.

Next matches scheduled for today are as follows:
MOUZ vs paIN
Team Vitality vs Wildcard
FaZe vs Team Falcons

So no shortage of talented teams competing in this one.

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May 01, 2025, 10:21:03 PM
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Blast Rivals tournament has started today with Team Spirit vs FlyQuest.
Haven't not seen FQ play too often I can't say too much on how I expect them to perform in this contest.
But with Spirit am hoping that Donk can outperform their rivals so to move through the competition quickly.

Next matches scheduled for today are as follows:
MOUZ vs paIN
Team Vitality vs Wildcard
FaZe vs Team Falcons

So no shortage of talented teams competing in this one.
Spirit and Falcons are currently playing and whoever wins advances to the semifinals waiting for the winner of MOUZ and FaZe. While the loser is going to be up against Wildcard. So, this is what's happening now. The Blast tournaments are happening and also in Dota 2, there's the Blast Slam III that's about to happen few days from now, on May 6 to be exact and here are the teams that will participate this tournament.


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May 02, 2025, 12:09:14 PM
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Spirit and Falcons are currently playing and whoever wins advances to the semifinals waiting for the winner of MOUZ and FaZe. While the loser is going to be up against Wildcard.
Their series delivered, and Team Falcons managed to secure the other semifinal spot. With how the brackets look, i'm starting to think this would be another Vitality vs. Falcons final unless Mouz or Team Spirit steps up.

So, this is what's happening now. The Blast tournaments are happening and also in Dota 2, there's the Blast Slam III that's about to happen few days from now, on May 6 to be exact and here are the teams that will participate this tournament.
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May 02, 2025, 11:08:59 PM
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Blast Rivals tournament has started today with Team Spirit vs FlyQuest.
Haven't not seen FQ play too often I can't say too much on how I expect them to perform in this contest.
But with Spirit am hoping that Donk can outperform their rivals so to move through the competition quickly.

Next matches scheduled for today are as follows:
MOUZ vs paIN
Team Vitality vs Wildcard
FaZe vs Team Falcons

So no shortage of talented teams competing in this one.
Spirit and Falcons are currently playing and whoever wins advances to the semifinals waiting for the winner of MOUZ and FaZe. While the loser is going to be up against Wildcard. So, this is what's happening now. The Blast tournaments are happening and also in Dota 2, there's the Blast Slam III that's about to happen few days from now, on May 6 to be exact and here are the teams that will participate this tournament.


MOUZ absolutely stomped Faze out of the Blast tournament today doing it in 2:0
After that last map on dust being outdone so badly maybe they need some restructuring aswell.
Team Spirit took out Wildcard so they are out of Blast Rivals too.

So we will Faclons vs Mouz and Vitality vs Spirit tomorrow in the semi-finals.

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May 03, 2025, 10:46:09 AM
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MOUZ absolutely stomped Faze out of the Blast tournament today doing it in 2:0
After that last map on dust being outdone so badly maybe they need some restructuring aswell.
Team Spirit took out Wildcard so they are out of Blast Rivals too.

So we will Faclons vs Mouz and Vitality vs Spirit tomorrow in the semi-finals.
Yesterday's playoff matches was like a speedrun as both favorites quickly wrapped the series in less than 40 rounds.

Today's semi finals should be more competitive now that the only teams remaining in the tournament are the top tier teams.

Interestingly, both favorites are sitting at 1.50-1.60, and maybe their dominating wins convinced the bookies.

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MOUZ absolutely stomped Faze out of the Blast tournament today doing it in 2:0
After that last map on dust being outdone so badly maybe they need some restructuring aswell.
Team Spirit took out Wildcard so they are out of Blast Rivals too.

So we will Faclons vs Mouz and Vitality vs Spirit tomorrow in the semi-finals.
Yesterday's playoff matches was like a speedrun as both favorites quickly wrapped the series in less than 40 rounds.

Today's semi finals should be more competitive now that the only teams remaining in the tournament are the top tier teams.

Interestingly, both favorites are sitting at 1.50-1.60, and maybe their dominating wins convinced the bookies.
I agree, I think I'll go with a Falcons and Team Vitality win against their opponents.
Mouz winning form have slid into the abyss as of late and Vitality are just championship worthy this year so far.

But they both will not end as easily those matches did yesterday both blanking their opponents so badly.

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May 03, 2025, 08:00:42 PM
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MOUZ absolutely stomped Faze out of the Blast tournament today doing it in 2:0
After that last map on dust being outdone so badly maybe they need some restructuring aswell.
Team Spirit took out Wildcard so they are out of Blast Rivals too.

So we will Faclons vs Mouz and Vitality vs Spirit tomorrow in the semi-finals.
Yesterday's playoff matches was like a speedrun as both favorites quickly wrapped the series in less than 40 rounds.

Today's semi finals should be more competitive now that the only teams remaining in the tournament are the top tier teams.

Interestingly, both favorites are sitting at 1.50-1.60, and maybe their dominating wins convinced the bookies.
I agree, I think I'll go with a Falcons and Team Vitality win against their opponents.
Mouz winning form have slid into the abyss as of late and Vitality are just championship worthy this year so far.

But they both will not end as easily those matches did yesterday both blanking their opponents so badly.

Mouz curse with "Auraless" team continues and let's be honest ...they really lack aura on that team and also don't have a superstar who could lift them up a bit because no matter how great their players are ...they simply cannot catch to CS2 public and that is enough to not be a great team.

Now , we must congratulate Vitality for having 24 consecutive winnings and if they win tomorrow they will officially chase for Astralis 28 one but I have a feeling they won't top that just because that team of 2018 Astralis was something from another world and no matter how hard Vitality tries ...they are not Astralis and most likely they will fall at 27.

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Mouz curse with "Auraless" team continues and let's be honest ...they really lack aura on that team and also don't have a superstar who could lift them up a bit because no matter how great their players are ...they simply cannot catch to CS2 public and that is enough to not be a great team.
I agree with you. While most of their players are in the top 20 rankings, the roster lacks a superstar who can elevate them even further, like how m0NESY suddenly gave Team Falcons a breath of fresh air.

Now , we must congratulate Vitality for having 24 consecutive winnings and if they win tomorrow they will officially chase for Astralis 28 one but I have a feeling they won't top that just because that team of 2018 Astralis was something from another world and no matter how hard Vitality tries ...they are not Astralis and most likely they will fall at 27.
This grand final will make or break their streak. If they win today, they'll have no issues extending it even further in IEM Dallas, as it'll take a while before they meet a top team that could pressure them again.

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Blast Rivals 2025 Season 1 Grand Finals are just about to start with Team Vitality vs Team Falcons.

The favorites are of course Vitality because as mentioned by boltz and ralle14 they are nearing the record of 28 consecutive wins in professional CounterStrike.

Not too sure who to back since Falcons with M0nesy in their lineup are starting to click and it showed yesterday.

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May 04, 2025, 07:02:24 PM
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Blast Rivals 2025 Season 1 Grand Finals are just about to start with Team Vitality vs Team Falcons.

The favorites are of course Vitality because as mentioned by boltz and ralle14 they are nearing the record of 28 consecutive wins in professional CounterStrike.

Not too sure who to back since Falcons with M0nesy in their lineup are starting to click and it showed yesterday.
Earlier, Team Falcons got the momentum on their side before heading into the final map (Nuke), but now it's looking dire for them since the scoreline is 1-6 and they've only won the force buy round.

I'm riding my Vitality ticket all the way, and hopefully, they close it out before Team Falcons wakes up in the second half.

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May 04, 2025, 07:52:47 PM
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Blast Rivals 2025 Season 1 Grand Finals are just about to start with Team Vitality vs Team Falcons.

The favorites are of course Vitality because as mentioned by boltz and ralle14 they are nearing the record of 28 consecutive wins in professional CounterStrike.

Not too sure who to back since Falcons with M0nesy in their lineup are starting to click and it showed yesterday.
Earlier, Team Falcons got the momentum on their side before heading into the final map (Nuke), but now it's looking dire for them since the scoreline is 1-6 and they've only won the force buy round.

I'm riding my Vitality ticket all the way, and hopefully, they close it out before Team Falcons wakes up in the second half.
That was a great grand final!
Watched the first map where Falcons were looking sharp but then they lost the next two 6-13.
Started watching the third map where Falcons were up 12-3 but Vitality ended up making a match of it bringing it into OT. But ended up losing it because m0nesy's last two kills. He was the star of the match along with Zywoo.

After being tied 2-2 the final map was hammered at 11-8 after Falcons got confused of where they went with the bomb and ended up fumbling it all up.
That put the nail in their coffin and Team Vitality won it.

They have been outstanding all year long so far in these clutch matches.

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