Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions

[joker_josue]

Not a Russian myself, nor do I care about any specific Russian athlete, but accusing Russia of systematic doping and not pointing a finger at other countries' systematic doping is just ridiculous. I guess the difference is state manipulated systematic doping versus the state knowing about doping and turning a blind eye. Honestly, it's equally bad.

The point is, these were caught... the others weren't.

Yes it is true that there is doping in other countries, but either it has not been detected yet or what has been caught are individual athletes, without government support or knowledge of the countries' federations.

In the case of Russia, the problem was discovering that the federations were involved in the problem. In other words, it was not the individual athletes but the institutions representing them that were involved.

[barota]

we have a good matches of game olympic for football , about six matches this wednesday, 21 july for women , and seven matchs for men those matchs will start next day after matches football of women or 22 july it remain some days for the start of football matches , i am sure that olympic games will be good and everyone will  fun , for who like football specially and for sure who like specifie sports too whatever swimming , athletic and all other sports

[Slow death]

I'm going to use this thread to let off steam, my country's team of athletes doesn't even have minimum requirements to compete with other participants in these olympic games, they are simply traveling to japan to shame us. I don't know how I'm going to be able to see athletes from my country who are in these Olympic games lose in a humiliating way, it's going to be a terrible shame for my whole country.

Well this years olympic games arent anything special...

I particularly don't understand why they are doing these Olympic games even with this new variant, why didn't they postpone it to a date when at least 60% of the population was vaccinated and the virus was under control?

[bryant.coleman]

we have a good matches of game olympic for football , about six matches this wednesday, 21 july for women , and seven matchs for men those matchs will start next day after matches football of women or 22 july it remain some days for the start of football matches , i am sure that olympic games will be good and everyone will  fun , for who like football specially and for sure who like specifie sports too whatever swimming , athletic and all other sports

16 teams are taking part in the men's competition. I don't understand the qualification process. They allowed just two teams from the most powerful confederation (CONMEBOL), while allotted three slots each to the weakest confederations (AFC and CAF). Is there any logic behind this move? It is hugely disappointing that South American teams such as Chile and Colombia could not qualify. On the other hand useless teams such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt made it to the tournament. I expected at least 3 slots for CONMEBOL.

[hahay]

With so many matches in the Olympics, of course it will be interesting, but so far I'm only interested in the matches that are exposed in the media or at least become a trend among the public. I just hope that the Olympics will remain safe because we know this pandemic is not over yet so yes, at least this tournament will still be exciting in every match and not only in certain sports.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I particularly don't understand why they are doing these Olympic games even with this new variant, why didn't they postpone it to a date when at least 60% of the population was vaccinated and the virus was under control?

I don't agree. They already postponed it once. There is no point in postponing it further, since the next edition is supposed to take place in 2024. Olympics is the largest sporting event in the globe and it happens only once every four years. If it is postponed or cancelled, tens of thousands of athletes may never get a chance to compete at this level again (for many of the athletes, the peak performance lasts only for 4-5 years). The risk is there, but it is very low. All the athletes and the remaining members of the staff are vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. On top of that, they are not allowing any spectators. Any chance of someone getting infected with COVID at the venue is very low. 

[RealMalatesta]

There is a reason for not allowing Russian athletes to represent the country, the state sponsored doping violation is the situation and they can compete as independent athletes, you need to accept the fact that the entire athletes were not banned from participating because when the new broke out about state manipulation of test and encouraging people to dope in a systematic manner i thought the entire athletes will be banned but everyone can participate as independent athletes and the only restriction is not to represent the country.

Not a Russian myself, nor do I care about any specific Russian athlete, but accusing Russia of systematic doping and not pointing a finger at other countries' systematic doping is just ridiculous. I guess the difference is state manipulated systematic doping versus the state knowing about doping and turning a blind eye. Honestly, it's equally bad.

That is EXACTLY what the problem is all about. If a player in a nation ends up doping and then gets caught that nation itself punishes the player, let alone help them, so it is obvious that Russia is a lot different in that situation. Our nation for example have Olympics joining tournament, so whatever your platform is you end up fighting against others to win, and we spend over 50 million dollars for Olympic training in all of our nation, why would we want to send a person who just uses doping to comeback as humiliation? How can they help?

We just lost money and a chance to win "something" or even participating honestly and instead ended up being called a doping winner. Russia on the other hand ends up doping the participants themselves, they literally raise people with doping in order to win some medals, literally government itself does it, how is that any similar?

[TheNineClub]

Not a Russian myself, nor do I care about any specific Russian athlete, but accusing Russia of systematic doping and not pointing a finger at other countries' systematic doping is just ridiculous. I guess the difference is state manipulated systematic doping versus the state knowing about doping and turning a blind eye. Honestly, it's equally bad.

The point is, these were caught... the others weren't.

Yes it is true that there is doping in other countries, but either it has not been detected yet or what has been caught are individual athletes, without government support or knowledge of the countries' federations.

In the case of Russia, the problem was discovering that the federations were involved in the problem. In other words, it was not the individual athletes but the institutions representing them that were involved.

yeah, you are right on that, it's just the fact that I mentioned, the institutions of other countries turning a blind eye on the athletes doping. It's just frustrating but as a wise man once said, it's not illegal to take drugs, it's illegal to get caught.

[uneng]

After covid cases started spreading fastly in Japan recently, Protest at Olympics emerged in response to contamined foreigner athletes and their delegations arriving in the country. About 200 people gathered in central Tokyo on Sunday to oppose the realization of the olympic games.

About 200 protesters gathered on Sunday outside Shinjuku station in central Tokyo, waving signs that read “No Olympics.” It was the latest in a series of small protests over the last few months targeting the Games.

Are these people really concerned about the potential infections the event could lead to, or is it just another political agenda being pushed to take advantage of the chaos for their own good, like we often see in the western world?

Could the event be cancelled due to the new infections cases increasing and consequently affect the gambling industry?

[AmoreJaz]

After covid cases started spreading fastly in Japan recently, Protest at Olympics emerged in response to contamined foreigner athletes and their delegations arriving in the country. About 200 people gathered in central Tokyo on Sunday to oppose the realization of the olympic games.

About 200 protesters gathered on Sunday outside Shinjuku station in central Tokyo, waving signs that read “No Olympics.” It was the latest in a series of small protests over the last few months targeting the Games.

Are these people really concerned about the potential infections the event could lead, or is it just another political agenda being pushed to take advantage of the chaos for their own good, like we often see in the western world?

Could the event be cancelled due to the new infections cases increasing and consequently affect the gambling industry?

we can't say the real motive here as we are not in their position. maybe, they are indeed concern about the potential increase in number of infections. however, as there are no more spectators allowed especially in tokyo area, the infections that may arise can be contained within the athletes and organisers only. but i believe, as day goes by, there will be more cases of this infection and it may turn out to be a mess. i just hope the organisers know how to contain it fast. otherwise, this olympics will go down in history as a chaotic one.

[Strongkored]

some countries will have less participants due to various reasons

Economic reasons can be the main one, especially for poor countries, without a pandemic they are already limited with finances coupled with difficult times it will make it even more difficult for poor countries to get funds to finance their athletes to go to Japan to compete.

we have a good matches of game olympic for football , about six matches this wednesday, 21 july for women , and seven matchs for men those matchs will start next day after matches football of women or 22 july it remain some days for the start of football matches , i am sure that olympic games will be good and everyone will  fun , for who like football specially and for sure who like specifie sports too whatever swimming , athletic and all other sports

I've never watched a women's football match, so don't know if there will be an interesting match for this sport, but for men's football it's for sure.

[joker_josue]

I've never watched a women's football match, so don't know if there will be an interesting match for this sport, but for men's football it's for sure.

Normally, men's football in the Olympic Games is one of the less prominent sports. The players are not from the main teams, they are usually only under-23.
The female is a little different, having already the main players in the tournament.

[TheNineClub]

I've never watched a women's football match, so don't know if there will be an interesting match for this sport, but for men's football it's for sure.

Normally, men's football in the Olympic Games is one of the less prominent sports. The players are not from the main teams, they are usually only under-23.
The female is a little different, having already the main players in the tournament.

Seems to me that maybe basketball is a bit different, right? I remember they used to have the best of the best players at one time but don't know if that changed. Hell even the USA team had stars and that's huge considering the NBA contracts.

[Lorence.xD]

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I'm not sure but I guess there are no qualifications for a country to participate in the olympic games. I mean If a country possessed an athletes to a specific sport, they should always qualify as long as the number of their teams and participants is appropriate to the rules. No more, no less.

The qualifications are only applicable for the players playing for a specific county. Prime example is the pureness of the player's nationality. There might be a slight controversy when a player has dual nationality.
I guess your country will be the one to choose representatives to play in the olympic games.

The hosting country will be the one to carry the torch and put it on the cauldron. So, it's gonna be Japan.

There are athletes for my country but they don't seem to be able to join the games. Also, I am a bit skeptical with who is going to be handling the torch because there's a time that Muhammad Ali was the one that lit the cauldron but I am not sure if it was an American one.

[W Jr.]

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

[BitcoinHunt3r]

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

I see Turkey is ranked 7th in the world in the sport of wrestling with Japan and America as the main competitors, as host Japan is favored for wrestling Turkish athletes must be mentally prepared. Meanwhile, my country Indonesia always competes in badminton and archery usually we get gold there, the main competitors are China and Japan.

[joker_josue]

I've never watched a women's football match, so don't know if there will be an interesting match for this sport, but for men's football it's for sure.

Normally, men's football in the Olympic Games is one of the less prominent sports. The players are not from the main teams, they are usually only under-23.
The female is a little different, having already the main players in the tournament.

Seems to me that maybe basketball is a bit different, right? I remember they used to have the best of the best players at one time but don't know if that changed. Hell even the USA team had stars and that's huge considering the NBA contracts.

Yes it is different. In the case of football, there are two reasons why countries do not take the best players:
- The organization of the Olympic Games does not want football to overshadow the other models, many considered amateur (although they are no longer).
- FIFA fears that the Olympic Games will become a competitor to FIFA Mudial. Hence create more limiting rules in the Olympic Games.

[zanezane]

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

In Philippines, I don't think that we will be even participating and if so, I don't think that a lot of athletes will participate, I know how my country takes care of my athlete and in a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 as the lowest, I would rank it as 1 probably because they don't have any support since they don't really further the agenda of politicians.

[Ziskinberg]

My country, Turkey, is participating in the tournament with 108 athletes. Our favorite sport is wrestling. We expect medals in wrestling. Taha Akgül is one of our most successful wrestlers. Let's see how many medals we will get back from the Olympics as Turkey. What is your country's favorite sport?

In Philippines, I don't think that we will be even participating and if so, I don't think that a lot of athletes will participate, I know how my country takes care of my athlete and in a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 as the lowest, I would rank it as 1 probably because they don't have any support since they don't really further the agenda of politicians.

The Philippines would never dominate in the Olympics, they don't have the height to compete with the Basketball, football, and other games that height is an advantage. I believe the Phillippines are mostly good at boxing.

in the last Olympics in Rio. the Philippines has only got 1 medal a silver medal only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

[iv4n]

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