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September 16, 2021, 08:17:31 PM |
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To get rid of masks slowly, we need to be vaccinated fully. Now, it is definitely the main criterion for people to go anywhere freely and worrying less about having a really serious covid-19 period. Vaccines are very important to keep people away from intensive care also. There isn't any logical reason for being anti-vaxxer. It is people's life we are talking about.
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September 16, 2021, 08:54:01 PM |
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The idea of vaccination is a good one, but I don’t think it is something that they have to force people to do. Getting vaccinated should be something of choice, you should decide whether you want to do it or not, if you want to do it then you can go ahead and get vaccinated and if not you can leave it. They shouldn’t be forcing anyone to get vaccinated, and more of a lot of people are scared and they don’t trust whether they vaccine is reliable or not and the after effects of it is what you don’t know.
We have heard a lot of bad stories about the vaccines and the kind of effects they had on some people, although I can’t really say for sure if all those stories are true or not.
There are way too many people in the world who are either anti-vaxx as a whole, or they just anti-covid vaxx basically, and that is the kind of trouble that we are living right now. For some reason, at one point in history vaccinations turned from something that saves lives to few people saying they are bad into a lot of people saying they are bad. How did something that saved lives of millions upon millions of people suddenly started to see by some people as something that is bad is beyond me. But, the reality is that without vaccination, covid would have been so much worse, so much worse.
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dunfida
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September 16, 2021, 09:11:06 PM |
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The idea of vaccination is a good one, but I don’t think it is something that they have to force people to do. Getting vaccinated should be something of choice, you should decide whether you want to do it or not, if you want to do it then you can go ahead and get vaccinated and if not you can leave it. They shouldn’t be forcing anyone to get vaccinated, and more of a lot of people are scared and they don’t trust whether they vaccine is reliable or not and the after effects of it is what you don’t know.
We have heard a lot of bad stories about the vaccines and the kind of effects they had on some people, although I can’t really say for sure if all those stories are true or not.
There are way too many people in the world who are either anti-vaxx as a whole, or they just anti-covid vaxx basically, and that is the kind of trouble that we are living right now. For some reason, at one point in history vaccinations turned from something that saves lives to few people saying they are bad into a lot of people saying they are bad. How did something that saved lives of millions upon millions of people suddenly started to see by some people as something that is bad is beyond me. But, the reality is that without vaccination, covid would have been so much worse, so much worse. But due to some side effects then people do really get paranoid when it comes to this on where they do think off that vaccine could really make it more worst without even thinking on whats the percentage of those people who got died because of side effects.Some do think that this is just part of the business and vaccines doesnt really give out effectiveness or doesnt change anything at all. We are really living into a world on where vaccination is a must thing.
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September 16, 2021, 09:40:13 PM |
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To get rid of masks slowly, we need to be vaccinated fully. Now, it is definitely the main criterion for people to go anywhere freely and worrying less about having a really serious covid-19 period. Vaccines are very important to keep people away from intensive care also. There isn't any logical reason for being anti-vaxxer. It is people's life we are talking about.
When it's about personal choices, you can't admit that it's logic or not. No one has the right to enforce someone to take the vaccination but that one can be forbidden from using some public spaces and this has no relation with his personal opinions/principles. Personally, i prefer waiting for the maximum time before taking the vaccine so i can watch how it may has bad impacts to some people and the differences between the different vaccines so i can make a better choice. I am not obligated to travel or change my location so i can wait to be the last one who will take the vaccine. The debate about vaccination becomes more rough imo. I think about people living under wars or in closed countries (North Corea) if we want to vaccinate the whole globe. Also new births and prisoners, is it right to give them vaccines without their own permission !
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September 16, 2021, 10:00:54 PM |
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This is really going to be a problem to those unvaccinated like me mate, but that doesn't stop me because if I'm out of job because of that; crypto is my second alternative for taking earning to continue living. However, fully vaccinated or not our lives still continue to prosper and having our immunity will last as long as you pursue self medication and avoid those evil doctors who still profit from pandemic covid-19 lies behind medical administration.
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September 17, 2021, 01:19:11 AM |
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Just sharing my experience as me and my wife are already fully vaccinated.
Went out yesterday to buy some stuff, and then me being a diabetic, I have to eat something. So we went to the favourite restaurant we eat and they are allowing dine-in as long as you are fully vaccinated. So we show them our vaccination card and off we go.
But being fully vaccinated doesn't mean that you can't contract Covid, specially with the latest variant. My brother who is also fully vaccinated, got infected after he feel ill and have to go to the doctor for a check-up. At least he has some protection and is now on the recovery phase (self-isolation for 2 weeks, but I said he needs to extend it to a month).
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Sithara007
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September 17, 2021, 04:53:19 AM |
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This is really going to be a problem to those unvaccinated like me mate, but that doesn't stop me because if I'm out of job because of that; crypto is my second alternative for taking earning to continue living. However, fully vaccinated or not our lives still continue to prosper and having our immunity will last as long as you pursue self medication and avoid those evil doctors who still profit from pandemic covid-19 lies behind medical administration.
What a load of BS? The majority of the deaths that have occurred in my neighborhood was caused by a delay in seeking medical help. Self medication works with minor illnesses such as flu and cold, but not with COVID. I would advice everyone to get hospitalized if they get infected with COVID and in case they suffer from breathing difficulty or fatigue. Self-medication won't work if you can't breathe on your own. And staying unvaccinated is your own choice.. but it's not something that I would ever consider for any of my family members.
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Ausgewielt
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September 17, 2021, 06:12:53 AM |
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Unfortunately the availability of tue vaccine is still low. I need to wait for long time until I can get it. I personally think that it is a humanity matters and vaccine should not be traded but should be distributed freely. The companies which produce vaccine should not take advantage in this situation, but government still have to support that company. Today, in my country there are many places that ask the citizens to show vaccination card. Even companies also give time about 1 month maximum to it's workers to get vaccinated.
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September 17, 2021, 06:27:01 AM |
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This is really going to be a problem to those unvaccinated like me mate, but that doesn't stop me because if I'm out of job because of that; crypto is my second alternative for taking earning to continue living. However, fully vaccinated or not our lives still continue to prosper and having our immunity will last as long as you pursue self medication and avoid those evil doctors who still profit from pandemic covid-19 lies behind medical administration.
It's not so simple like this. Without the vaccine you will be forbidden from travelling even inside your country and it won't be possible to go to stores and public buildings (probably all of them) that are part of our daily appointments. It looks like life without vaccination is going to be like a home prison imposed by governments following WHO's guidance. It means you can expect similar regulations for most countries. To keep our routines normal and our lives prospering and thriving like you said, we will have to take the vaccine, there isn't another option.
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Vishnu.Reang
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September 17, 2021, 08:10:10 AM |
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It's not so simple like this. Without the vaccine you will be forbidden from travelling even inside your country and it won't be possible to go to stores and public buildings (probably all of them) that are part of our daily appointments. It looks like life without vaccination is going to be like a home prison imposed by governments following WHO's guidance. It means you can expect similar regulations for most countries. To keep our routines normal and our lives prospering and thriving like you said, we will have to take the vaccine, there isn't another option.
There are certain groups of people who can't be vaccinated due to medical conditions and other issues. These restrictions are meant for them. Otherwise, everyone else is supposed to get inoculated with two doses of the vaccine (third booster dose as well, if there is a requirement). The pandemic has already killed 5-10 million individuals so far, and the governments are gradually getting stricter with the restrictions. If they want the pandemic to be contained within the next 6-12 months, then they need to compel the population to take vaccine.
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globalpain
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September 17, 2021, 09:20:15 AM |
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Unfortunately the availability of tue vaccine is still low. I need to wait for long time until I can get it. I personally think that it is a humanity matters and vaccine should not be traded but should be distributed freely. The companies which produce vaccine should not take advantage in this situation, but government still have to support that company. Today, in my country there are many places that ask the citizens to show vaccination card. Even companies also give time about 1 month maximum to it's workers to get vaccinated.
We can see that vaccination is one of the requirements whether it's from the company or others, and the problem is that there are still many who have not been vaccinated for various exact reasons, I don't think it's fair when someone loses their job because they haven't been vaccinated
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September 17, 2021, 09:25:55 AM |
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This is really going to be a problem to those unvaccinated like me mate, but that doesn't stop me because if I'm out of job because of that; crypto is my second alternative for taking earning to continue living. However, fully vaccinated or not our lives still continue to prosper and having our immunity will last as long as you pursue self medication and avoid those evil doctors who still profit from pandemic covid-19 lies behind medical administration.
In my place, there are many doctors and health clinics who always state positively anyone who goes there for treatment, this is because all Covid patients will get special treatment and this is a business for doctors, I think without being vaccinated, we will be strong in dealing with the virus with a record of maintaining health, namely food and lots of physical exercise.
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DrBeer
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September 17, 2021, 10:10:30 AM |
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Vaccination is very easy to imagine in the form of a classic story: there is a very wide river teeming with aggressive crocodiles. People need to cross this river from bank to bank. You can try to swim very quickly across the river - there is a different from 0 probability that the crocodiles will not have time to react to you. But others offered to quickly build a bridge, even if in a hurry, even without a 100% guarantee that no one will fall from it. But it is guaranteed that 99% will surely cross the river safely. What do you choose - try to quickly cross the river every time, or go over the bridge? Also with vaccination - you can not get vaccinated and risk guaranteed with a high probability, but you can get vaccinated and get very limited risks with a low probability
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September 17, 2021, 11:25:49 AM |
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Vaccination is very easy to imagine in the form of a classic story: there is a very wide river teeming with aggressive crocodiles. People need to cross this river from bank to bank. You can try to swim very quickly across the river - there is a different from 0 probability that the crocodiles will not have time to react to you. But others offered to quickly build a bridge, even if in a hurry, even without a 100% guarantee that no one will fall from it. But it is guaranteed that 99% will surely cross the river safely. What do you choose - try to quickly cross the river every time, or go over the bridge? Also with vaccination - you can not get vaccinated and risk guaranteed with a high probability, but you can get vaccinated and get very limited risks with a low probability
Anti-vaxxers are having a field day with this pandemic. They have successfully convinced hundreds of millions around the world not to take vaccine, by spreading rumors of side effects. Even developed countries like the United States are reporting 2,000+ deaths per day now (and according to various sources, almost all of the deaths are among the unvaccinated people). During the initial phases it was OK to refuse vaccination, because the clinical trials were not complete. But now, billions of doses have been administered and very few people have reported side effects. No justification exists to refuse vaccination now.
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September 17, 2021, 12:21:38 PM |
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Vaccination is very easy to imagine in the form of a classic story: there is a very wide river teeming with aggressive crocodiles. People need to cross this river from bank to bank. You can try to swim very quickly across the river - there is a different from 0 probability that the crocodiles will not have time to react to you. But others offered to quickly build a bridge, even if in a hurry, even without a 100% guarantee that no one will fall from it. But it is guaranteed that 99% will surely cross the river safely. What do you choose - try to quickly cross the river every time, or go over the bridge? Also with vaccination - you can not get vaccinated and risk guaranteed with a high probability, but you can get vaccinated and get very limited risks with a low probability
Anti-vaxxers are having a field day with this pandemic. They have successfully convinced hundreds of millions around the world not to take vaccine, by spreading rumors of side effects. Even developed countries like the United States are reporting 2,000+ deaths per day now (and according to various sources, almost all of the deaths are among the unvaccinated people). During the initial phases it was OK to refuse vaccination, because the clinical trials were not complete. But now, billions of doses have been administered and very few people have reported side effects. No justification exists to refuse vaccination now. To dumb for people to believe in such rumors hopefully they will realize that the vaccine goes with many trial across the globe and this is not secretly happened since this was over the news when the vaccine created. I do hope Anti-vaxxers will realize that they should believe on the experts who created the vaccine so that we can achieve the herd immunity globally. Maybe its time for government to take action to the people spreading false news so that we can achieve the goal and this covid will slowly fades away.
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September 17, 2021, 02:44:39 PM |
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Unfortunately the availability of tue vaccine is still low. I need to wait for long time until I can get it. I personally think that it is a humanity matters and vaccine should not be traded but should be distributed freely. The companies which produce vaccine should not take advantage in this situation, but government still have to support that company. Today, in my country there are many places that ask the citizens to show vaccination card. Even companies also give time about 1 month maximum to it's workers to get vaccinated.
We can see that vaccination is one of the requirements whether it's from the company or others, and the problem is that there are still many who have not been vaccinated for various exact reasons, I don't think it's fair when someone loses their job because they haven't been vaccinated yes, what you say is true. my friend was forced to not work because he had not received the vaccination. as you said if you want to work in a vaccination card company is now a mandatory requirement. my friend was not vaccinated not because she didn't want to be vaccinated, but because she had an inherited disease that made her unable to receive the vaccine.
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September 17, 2021, 03:03:42 PM |
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You can always join the rebellion against these tyrants and tell them to go fuck themselves. It is not really that hard. Dump your big house that eats away half of your monthly income, get a smaller car, eat less and you'll be able to survive through this mess even without a job. If you want to comply because you don't want to move from your comfort zone, then get ready to be vaxxed forever and end up a genetically modified bio-mess. Yeah, I love it. A vaccine panorama and a funny meme. Currently, in our country, to return to work must be fully vaccinated. Unvaccinated people will be at a disadvantage to them. Traveling between countries also requires full vaccinations and screening tests to get on the plane.
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September 17, 2021, 04:21:56 PM |
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You can always join the rebellion against these tyrants and tell them to go fuck themselves. It is not really that hard. Dump your big house that eats away half of your monthly income, get a smaller car, eat less and you'll be able to survive through this mess even without a job. If you want to comply because you don't want to move from your comfort zone, then get ready to be vaxxed forever and end up a genetically modified bio-mess. Yeah, I love it. A vaccine panorama and a funny meme. Currently, in our country, to return to work must be fully vaccinated. Unvaccinated people will be at a disadvantage to them. Traveling between countries also requires full vaccinations and screening tests to get on the plane. It was a hilarious meme, haha. We are not all the same, but most private sector employers are advising job seekers to get vaccinated because it is one of their requirements, and the government is planning to make it mandatory, so we won't have a choice. We have no choice but to follow. I am vaccinated, but I respect those who do not want to be.
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September 17, 2021, 04:30:34 PM |
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Vaccination is very easy to imagine in the form of a classic story: there is a very wide river teeming with aggressive crocodiles. People need to cross this river from bank to bank. You can try to swim very quickly across the river - there is a different from 0 probability that the crocodiles will not have time to react to you. But others offered to quickly build a bridge, even if in a hurry, even without a 100% guarantee that no one will fall from it. But it is guaranteed that 99% will surely cross the river safely. What do you choose - try to quickly cross the river every time, or go over the bridge? Also with vaccination - you can not get vaccinated and risk guaranteed with a high probability, but you can get vaccinated and get very limited risks with a low probability
Anti-vaxxers are having a field day with this pandemic. They have successfully convinced hundreds of millions around the world not to take vaccine, by spreading rumors of side effects. Even developed countries like the United States are reporting 2,000+ deaths per day now (and according to various sources, almost all of the deaths are among the unvaccinated people). During the initial phases it was OK to refuse vaccination, because the clinical trials were not complete. But now, billions of doses have been administered and very few people have reported side effects. No justification exists to refuse vaccination now. I will say this - there are enough fools everywhere. Fools have always been, fools will always be! But there is a slight difference. Being a fool and denying computer technology, for example, will only lead to technological backwardness. But it will not lead to death! Denial of the need for vaccinations, and refusal of vaccinations, will actually become some kind of "natural selection", because the unvaccinated have the maximum mortality rate, and the unvaccinated who have had the illness and who have received complications will find themselves on the "outskirts" of a full life, and are likely to become, in a sense, "outcasts". Well, for the rest of the population, not vaccinated, will become a "walking advertisement" of the statement "it is necessary to be vaccinated!" It may sound a little harsh, but this is the reality ...
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September 17, 2021, 06:14:14 PM |
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To dumb for people to believe in such rumors hopefully they will realize that the vaccine goes with many trial across the globe and this is not secretly happened since this was over the news when the vaccine created. I do hope Anti-vaxxers will realize that they should believe on the experts who created the vaccine so that we can achieve the herd immunity globally.
Maybe its time for government to take action to the people spreading false news so that we can achieve the goal and this covid will slowly fades away.
Unfortunately there are way too many people who are dumb enough to think that they are actually the smart ones. That's not a joke, people who do not get vaccination believes that they are the smart people. Because, we get vaccinated and "do not ask any questions about it", they assume that we did absolutely zero research about it and just accepted it because government told us to get it, they do not realize that we did our research and found it very beneficial to get it. Hence, because they do not get it and because so many people do get it, they assume that they are the smart ones who realize what's wrong. In reality they do not realize they are the idiots who cause the world to still be in this mess, if they weren't acting like this then the world would become a good place by now.
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