Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Distinctin]

I'm both fan of Canelo and GGG because their talent is truly exemptional, it's seems like that they are really born to do boxing and be known around the world. However, we cannot deny that GGG's days are already counting before he retires because he is now 40 years old so my best guess is that win or lose fighting against Canelo is his last fight before he hangs hiss gloves. At least his most awaited trilogy have happened before he retires.

While Canelo Alvarez is currently at the peak of his prime will untouchable for the time being because of his IQ in the ring to react quickly and do what response is need in-order to maintain his dominance inside the ring. Any boxer may hit him hard but Canelo will always withstand all of it, any fighter he encounters is lucky enough if it will end by a decision and not by a KO or TKO.

[molsewid]

I'm both fan of Canelo and GGG because their talent is truly exemptional, it's seems like that they are really born to do boxing and be known around the world. However, we cannot deny that GGG's days are already counting before he retires because he is now 40 years old so my best guess is that win or lose fighting against Canelo is his last fight before he hangs hiss gloves. At least his most awaited trilogy have happened before he retires.

While Canelo Alvarez is currently at the peak of his prime will untouchable for the time being because of his IQ in the ring to react quickly and do what response is need in-order to maintain his dominance inside the ring. Any boxer may hit him hard but Canelo will always withstand all of it, any fighter he encounters is lucky enough if it will end by a decision and not by a KO or TKO.

Does the trilogy of Canelo against GGG is confirm? I just knew that Canelo and his team wasn't finalized their decision but to be honest I am also rooting for this trilogy because I do believe that it was one of the worth fight to watch for. Though, we are concern about the age gap of GGG to Canelo I can still say this man has still some strength and speed that can be a good match to Canelos's prime strength. This undefeated Canelo still perform the best game of his life and I believe even this trilogy happen this man will not going to give in his belt and his reputation.

[erep]

Does the trilogy of Canelo against GGG is confirm?

I have not found any valid information that the fight between the two has reached an agreement, honestly I have been waiting for a trilogy match for the last 4 years.

Though, we are concern about the age gap of GGG to Canelo I can still say this man has still some strength and speed that can be a good match to Canelos's prime strength.

The age difference that is too far from Canelo may have the opportunity to find a weak point from the defense which is starting to not be strong enough to withstand heavy blows. However, it seems age is not a problem for GGG as it still has the energy to beat Ryota Murata in the 9th round, which means the age difference won't mean anything for two incredible fights.

[goinmerry]

Does the trilogy of Canelo against GGG is confirm? I just knew that Canelo and his team wasn't finalized their decision but to be honest I am also rooting for this trilogy because I do believe that it was one of the worth fight to watch for.

It can't be a done deal yet since Canelo Alvarez has to win first in his fight against Dmitry Bivol next month.

One thing is for sure, they are both verbally committed to accepting the fight on September 17. GGG has already done with his task which is winning his previous fight against Ryota Murata and it's now Canelo's turn to do the same.

If Canelo won, that's the only time we can see if they will finalize the deal with their trilogy.

[harizen]

However, we cannot deny that GGG's days are already counting before he retires because he is now 40 years old so my best guess is that win or lose fighting against Canelo is his last fight before he hangs hiss gloves. At least his most awaited trilogy have happened before he retires.

That's what I'm thinking too. He might treat the trilogy as his last fight and then finally hang his gloves.

However, if he will win that match, there will be encouragement on his own that he can still fight. The fact that let's say he beat Canelo, will give him more inspiration that he can still beat prime boxers who will come for him.

If the trilogy will stake both boxers' respective titles and GGG won, he will be again a multi-title holder and the next move is, to defend it or to just leave it and hang his gloves for good.

[agustina2]

Canelo doesn't have to win against Bivol just to have a 3rd fight with GGG but since Canelo won't take another chance to stain his record then I guess this is an another win in his favor and maybe we can see him to knockout Bivol. I also do agree that he also needs to defeat the latter so that there's no excuses to delay the trilogy again. The fans are already expecting so this time they better make it happen.

Yes, it's not necessary but I doubt there will be an interest in GGG to have a trilogy if Canelo will lose on Bivol.

And from what I understand, promoters or organizers both require GGG and Canelo to win their respective fights as part of the mandatory pre-requisites before making the trilogy happen. Maybe it's best for them to officially organize the trilogy if both boxers came from a win.

I'm not just sure about how true it was.

[Sanitough]

Canelo doesn't have to win against Bivol just to have a 3rd fight with GGG but since Canelo won't take another chance to stain his record then I guess this is an another win in his favor and maybe we can see him to knockout Bivol. I also do agree that he also needs to defeat the latter so that there's no excuses to delay the trilogy again. The fans are already expecting so this time they better make it happen.

Yes, it's not necessary but I doubt there will be an interest in GGG to have a trilogy if Canelo will lose on Bivol.

And from what I understand, promoters or organizers both require GGG and Canelo to win their respective fights as part of the mandatory pre-requisites before making the trilogy happen. Maybe it's best for them to officially organize the trilogy if both boxers came from a win.

I'm not just sure about how true it was.

There will be always an interest in GGG to have a trilogy with Canelo even if the latter will lose its fight against Dmitry Bivol, why? It is because GGG is not Bivol, he is always asking for the 3rd fight in the past even if Canelo is not interested, he wanted to close the fight because their standing is 1-1. But I think their trilogy will be postponed if Canelo will lose against Bivol as he will likely go for a rematch first.

I'm also not sure of their agreement but as far as I understand it, Canelo already signed it because it was a two-way deal including GGG but the money talks isn't yet agreed so the deal is not yet done. Also GGG have not signed the deal, don't know why because the last time I heard he was still busy preparing against Murata. Either way, we will know about it soon.

[bittraffic]

Canelo doesn't have to win against Bivol just to have a 3rd fight with GGG but since Canelo won't take another chance to stain his record then I guess this is an another win in his favor and maybe we can see him to knockout Bivol. I also do agree that he also needs to defeat the latter so that there's no excuses to delay the trilogy again. The fans are already expecting so this time they better make it happen.

Yes, it's not necessary but I doubt there will be an interest in GGG to have a trilogy if Canelo will lose on Bivol.

And from what I understand, promoters or organizers both require GGG and Canelo to win their respective fights as part of the mandatory pre-requisites before making the trilogy happen. Maybe it's best for them to officially organize the trilogy if both boxers came from a win.

I'm not just sure about how true it was.

Maybe the requirement is for the promoters to find out if they are both up to give a good fight than just having the trilogy for money. Both has to win a fight before the trilogy will make the promoter conclude they are fit for it and can hype to make more money.

A rematch against Bivol whenever Canelo loses is most likely to happen indeed to settle the score. The most awaited will once again take months while GG is getting older. I'm not convince anymore if he can even win another fight before Canelo.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Canelo doesn't have to win against Bivol just to have a 3rd fight with GGG but since Canelo won't take another chance to stain his record then I guess this is an another win in his favor and maybe we can see him to knockout Bivol. I also do agree that he also needs to defeat the latter so that there's no excuses to delay the trilogy again. The fans are already expecting so this time they better make it happen.

Yes, it's not necessary but I doubt there will be an interest in GGG to have a trilogy if Canelo will lose on Bivol.

And from what I understand, promoters or organizers both require GGG and Canelo to win their respective fights as part of the mandatory pre-requisites before making the trilogy happen. Maybe it's best for them to officially organize the trilogy if both boxers came from a win.

I'm not just sure about how true it was.

Maybe the requirement is for the promoters to find out if they are both up to give a good fight than just having the trilogy for money. Both has to win a fight before the trilogy will make the promoter conclude they are fit for it and can hype to make more money.

A rematch against Bivol whenever Canelo loses is most likely to happen indeed to settle the score. The most awaited will once again take months while GG is getting older. I'm not convince anymore if he can even win another fight before Canelo.

I guess as someone said, boxing is business so promoters are going to exploit everything for the money from this boxers. But to make the fight really more hype for the fans, Canelo will have to win as well to set up the most lucrative fights in terms of money for this year.

But if he losses, we don't know what will be the scenario, maybe he will do a rematch with Bivol or go with GGG.

[Sanitough]

Canelo doesn't have to win against Bivol just to have a 3rd fight with GGG but since Canelo won't take another chance to stain his record then I guess this is an another win in his favor and maybe we can see him to knockout Bivol. I also do agree that he also needs to defeat the latter so that there's no excuses to delay the trilogy again. The fans are already expecting so this time they better make it happen.

Yes, it's not necessary but I doubt there will be an interest in GGG to have a trilogy if Canelo will lose on Bivol.

And from what I understand, promoters or organizers both require GGG and Canelo to win their respective fights as part of the mandatory pre-requisites before making the trilogy happen. Maybe it's best for them to officially organize the trilogy if both boxers came from a win.

I'm not just sure about how true it was.

Maybe the requirement is for the promoters to find out if they are both up to give a good fight than just having the trilogy for money. Both has to win a fight before the trilogy will make the promoter conclude they are fit for it and can hype to make more money.

A rematch against Bivol whenever Canelo loses is most likely to happen indeed to settle the score. The most awaited will once again take months while GG is getting older. I'm not convince anymore if he can even win another fight before Canelo.

I guess as someone said, boxing is business so promoters are going to exploit everything for the money from this boxers. But to make the fight really more hype for the fans, Canelo will have to win as well to set up the most lucrative fights in terms of money for this year.

But if he losses, we don't know what will be the scenario, maybe he will do a rematch with Bivol or go with GGG.

It's only natural for the promoters to test something for them to know if this possible fight in the future will really bring them huge money because they cannot risk their boxers record and fame for just a regular fight with no hype and a market is needed to be done even if the fight is not yet materialized.

Correct! Boxing is also a business industry that's why they need to make sure that everything is in place while their boxer's name is still hyped. In the same way, Canelo is not looking to make a stop for Bivol and do some rematch soon because he will finish this fight only once to avoid dragging his name in stain as a sure money is waiting if the trilogy will happen if Canelo would really make his fight against Bivol end with a bang to continue the hype.

[Distinctin]

I'm both fan of Canelo and GGG because their talent is truly exemptional, it's seems like that they are really born to do boxing and be known around the world. However, we cannot deny that GGG's days are already counting before he retires because he is now 40 years old so my best guess is that win or lose fighting against Canelo is his last fight before he hangs hiss gloves. At least his most awaited trilogy have happened before he retires.

While Canelo Alvarez is currently at the peak of his prime will untouchable for the time being because of his IQ in the ring to react quickly and do what response is need in-order to maintain his dominance inside the ring. Any boxer may hit him hard but Canelo will always withstand all of it, any fighter he encounters is lucky enough if it will end by a decision and not by a KO or TKO.

Does the trilogy of Canelo against GGG is confirm? I just knew that Canelo and his team wasn't finalized their decision but to be honest I am also rooting for this trilogy because I do believe that it was one of the worth fight to watch for. Though, we are concern about the age gap of GGG to Canelo I can still say this man has still some strength and speed that can be a good match to Canelos's prime strength. This undefeated Canelo still perform the best game of his life and I believe even this trilogy happen this man will not going to give in his belt and his reputation.

The trilogy is not yet confirmed but this time it's about to materialized soon as GGG have been waiting for him already at the other end while Canelo is still about to have a fight on his side, both will have some talks again for formalities and about the pay cut I think. We will know soon.

This undefeated Canelo still perform the best game of his life and I believe even this trilogy happen this man will not going to give in his belt and his reputation.

Canelo is not undefeated, Floyd Mayweather managed to put a stain on his record 9 years ago when Canelo is still approaching his prime years. But I agree, Canelo made his way up to the top and I don't think he will just accept another defeat in his record.

[LUCKMCFLY]

What I really want to know is just an overview, if Canelo loses to Bivol, how would the fans react? Would they still want the CANELO and GGG fight if the Russian comes out victorious? I would honestly see it as if the 3rd place winner wanted to face the champion, it's something like that, it wouldn't make a sharp sense, now, if Canelo sweeps Bivol, the Canelo vs. GGG fight for me would be the best fight of al except these 5 years that come from boxing fights, because there is already much more emotion, the fans would be crazy, the bets would be crazy, the adrenaline would not only be in the boxers, but in all of us, I include myself because even that makes me excited .

If Bivol wins nothing will change the fans will still want the GGG - Canelo fight its long been overdue the fans want it I believe whatever happens to their respective fight because as boxing experts say style makes a fight and both GGG and Canelo can deliver an exciting fight because of their style, they are not on a conflicting style they have the same style they go for it and can stand toe to toe and loves to beat their opponent on their own game.

The trilogy will make it a very interesting and compelling match if Canelo wins his fight against Bivol. So that there will be no excuses for both sides to not fight.

Yeah, they have the same style that's why their fights are very close, specially the first one that goes into a draw, but that match is very confidential that's why the trilogy can end all the arguments as to who is the real winner between this two great fighters.

Yes, and I like the way you say it, it really is a possibility that it could happen, despite everything if Bivol does his job and defeats him, I think he would only be opening the doors much more but for him, of course, the expectations would grow, since He would not be just any boxer, I think that the greatest expectation is what he is looking for for now with Canelo and GGG, this fight must take place and should take place in 2022, I do not find reasons under which such a necessary fight should continue to be made or postponed, at least for all fans, they should from time to time think about the spectacle of sports.

[harizen]

This isn't boxing speculation, odds, or predictions but more on a discussion. No thread fits this topic so I will put it here:

Donaire: Casimero should not be stripped of WBO title

Nonito Donaire was convinced that John Riel Casimero should not be stripped of the title by the World Boxing Organization because according to him, Casimero made the weight but wasn’t given the rules and regulations to know about related to the sauna.

Donaire said the use of a sauna is not generally illegal. Actually, he was fairly right about that but as I shared here, the sauna rules are against the British Boxing Board of Control. Filipino Boxing Veteran analyst Atty. Ed Tolentino even pointed out that's already been part of the BBBofC rules since 1929. The analyst debunked the idea of Casimero being set up in Liverpool.

Instead, he blamed the lack of knowledge of Team Casimero regarding the use of the sauna.

It's now 48 hours since the ultimatum and deadline gave to Casimero to defend his side on why shouldn't he be stripped of the title. I'm looking for some updates regarding that but found nothing.

[Distinctin]

This isn't boxing speculation, odds, or predictions but more on a discussion. No thread fits this topic so I will put it here:

Donaire: Casimero should not be stripped of WBO title

Nonito Donaire was convinced that John Riel Casimero should not be stripped of the title by the World Boxing Organization because according to him, Casimero made the weight but wasn’t given the rules and regulations to know about related to the sauna.

Donaire said the use of a sauna is not generally illegal. Actually, he was fairly right about that but as I shared here, the sauna rules are against the British Boxing Board of Control. Filipino Boxing Veteran analyst Atty. Ed Tolentino even pointed out that's already been part of the BBBofC rules since 1929. The analyst debunked the idea of Casimero being set up in Liverpool.

Instead, he blamed the lack of knowledge of Team Casimero regarding the use of the sauna.

It's now 48 hours since the ultimatum and deadline gave to Casimero to defend his side on why shouldn't he be stripped of the title. I'm looking for some updates regarding that but found nothing.

I'm also trying to find some updates regarding on that matter if Casimero was truly stripped on his WBO title but it seems that they are still reviewing his case because it is also not that easy to strip someone of his belts and they are looking on every angle because there are some also rumors that these were planned ahead of time. Either way, I'm hoping that Casimero learned his lesson.

[stadus]

This isn't boxing speculation, odds, or predictions but more on a discussion. No thread fits this topic so I will put it here:

Donaire: Casimero should not be stripped of WBO title

Nonito Donaire was convinced that John Riel Casimero should not be stripped of the title by the World Boxing Organization because according to him, Casimero made the weight but wasn’t given the rules and regulations to know about related to the sauna.

Donaire said the use of a sauna is not generally illegal. Actually, he was fairly right about that but as I shared here, the sauna rules are against the British Boxing Board of Control. Filipino Boxing Veteran analyst Atty. Ed Tolentino even pointed out that's already been part of the BBBofC rules since 1929. The analyst debunked the idea of Casimero being set up in Liverpool.

Instead, he blamed the lack of knowledge of Team Casimero regarding the use of the sauna.

It's now 48 hours since the ultimatum and deadline gave to Casimero to defend his side on why shouldn't he be stripped of the title. I'm looking for some updates regarding that but found nothing.

I'm also trying to find some updates regarding on that matter if Casimero was truly stripped on his WBO title but it seems that they are still reviewing his case because it is also not that easy to strip someone of his belts and they are looking on every angle because there are some also rumors that these were planned ahead of time. Either way, I'm hoping that Casimero learned his lesson.

What do you guys think, is this planned all along by the opposing team? I hope not but it's also hard to deny not to look that way because Butler and his camp has been throwing rocks all along even before Casimero haven't caught in the act. I have read in the past that Probellum's main boy is Butler and with Casimero on the same roof would definitely cause rivalry that only one will continue to rise.

[Kemarit]

This isn't boxing speculation, odds, or predictions but more on a discussion. No thread fits this topic so I will put it here:

Donaire: Casimero should not be stripped of WBO title

Nonito Donaire was convinced that John Riel Casimero should not be stripped of the title by the World Boxing Organization because according to him, Casimero made the weight but wasn’t given the rules and regulations to know about related to the sauna.

Donaire said the use of a sauna is not generally illegal. Actually, he was fairly right about that but as I shared here, the sauna rules are against the British Boxing Board of Control. Filipino Boxing Veteran analyst Atty. Ed Tolentino even pointed out that's already been part of the BBBofC rules since 1929. The analyst debunked the idea of Casimero being set up in Liverpool.

Instead, he blamed the lack of knowledge of Team Casimero regarding the use of the sauna.

It's now 48 hours since the ultimatum and deadline gave to Casimero to defend his side on why shouldn't he be stripped of the title. I'm looking for some updates regarding that but found nothing.

I'm also trying to find some updates regarding on that matter if Casimero was truly stripped on his WBO title but it seems that they are still reviewing his case because it is also not that easy to strip someone of his belts and they are looking on every angle because there are some also rumors that these were planned ahead of time. Either way, I'm hoping that Casimero learned his lesson.

What do you guys think, is this planned all along by the opposing team? I hope not but it's also hard to deny not to look that way because Butler and his camp has been throwing rocks all along even before Casimero haven't caught in the act. I have read in the past that Probellum's main boy is Butler and with Casimero on the same roof would definitely cause rivalry that only one will continue to rise.

It's really hard to say if this is the plan all along because it doesn't sound right. But I suspect that the team of Casimero is not really aware of such rule coming from British boxing commission and for sure they have been doing sauna to get out that excess weight and he might not be the first boxer to do. It's that the career of Casimero now is turning into waste, we don't know if he can fight again this year.

[Dave1]

This isn't boxing speculation, odds, or predictions but more on a discussion. No thread fits this topic so I will put it here:

Donaire: Casimero should not be stripped of WBO title

Nonito Donaire was convinced that John Riel Casimero should not be stripped of the title by the World Boxing Organization because according to him, Casimero made the weight but wasn’t given the rules and regulations to know about related to the sauna.

Donaire said the use of a sauna is not generally illegal. Actually, he was fairly right about that but as I shared here, the sauna rules are against the British Boxing Board of Control. Filipino Boxing Veteran analyst Atty. Ed Tolentino even pointed out that's already been part of the BBBofC rules since 1929. The analyst debunked the idea of Casimero being set up in Liverpool.

Instead, he blamed the lack of knowledge of Team Casimero regarding the use of the sauna.

It's now 48 hours since the ultimatum and deadline gave to Casimero to defend his side on why shouldn't he be stripped of the title. I'm looking for some updates regarding that but found nothing.

I'm also trying to find some updates regarding on that matter if Casimero was truly stripped on his WBO title but it seems that they are still reviewing his case because it is also not that easy to strip someone of his belts and they are looking on every angle because there are some also rumors that these were planned ahead of time. Either way, I'm hoping that Casimero learned his lesson.

What do you guys think, is this planned all along by the opposing team? I hope not but it's also hard to deny not to look that way because Butler and his camp has been throwing rocks all along even before Casimero haven't caught in the act. I have read in the past that Probellum's main boy is Butler and with Casimero on the same roof would definitely cause rivalry that only one will continue to rise.

I doubt that Probellum main boy is Butler, they have a good set of boxers, including Donaire and Casimero. And it should benefit them if it is Butler vs Casimero because the money will be all in-house, so doesn't make sense that conspiracy, in my opinion. So I agree with Donaire's theory, it was Team Casimero, I don't think anyone advises him properly behind doors.

[goinmerry]

What do you guys think, is this planned all along by the opposing team? I hope not but it's also hard to deny not to look that way because Butler and his camp has been throwing rocks all along even before Casimero haven't caught in the act. I have read in the past that Probellum's main boy is Butler and with Casimero on the same roof would definitely cause rivalry that only one will continue to rise.

It's impossible that it's a stage and planned. The rules and terms about using the sauna are already there for a long.

There's clear evidence that Casimero's camp violates, how can that be staged? We should blame the whole Casimero camp here including Casimero itself since how come they don't have any idea about the rules of British Boxing.

Lesson learned that they should always be aware of the boxing terms in any region. Ignorance of the terms excuses no one even the boxer involved is a champion.

[agustina2]

Looks like John Riel Casimero still has the WBO vote of confidence. Since there's no news after the 48 hours deadline given to Casimero to explain why he should keep the title, maybe things are now settled between WBO and Casimero. It's been over a week now since the supposed title defense match against Paul Butler.

Paul Butler got the vacant interim WBO Bantamweight title. Not much knowledge about how a title match should fight on but can he still ask for a mandatory title fight against Casimero who still holds the WBO Bantamweight title?

Johnriel Casimero Still Has WBO Vote of Confidence?

[mirakal]

What do you guys think, is this planned all along by the opposing team? I hope not but it's also hard to deny not to look that way because Butler and his camp has been throwing rocks all along even before Casimero haven't caught in the act. I have read in the past that Probellum's main boy is Butler and with Casimero on the same roof would definitely cause rivalry that only one will continue to rise.

It's impossible that it's a stage and planned. The rules and terms about using the sauna are already there for a long.

There's clear evidence that Casimero's camp violates, how can that be staged? We should blame the whole Casimero camp here including Casimero itself since how come they don't have any idea about the rules of British Boxing.

Lesson learned that they should always be aware of the boxing terms in any region. Ignorance of the terms excuses no one even the boxer involved is a champion.

Exactly and I do agree that their ignorance is not an excuse because their team is consists of professionals especially Casimero, they should be fully aware that doing those actions could lead to a dangerous situation as every country has it's own set of rules to follow.

I know that Casimero is not the first one to do it but the fact that he's caught in the act is really a heavy evidence just because there's a dumb person in his camp. The damage has been done and they should just take that as a lesson rather than making some speculations that doesn't really make sense.