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The United States is developing biological weapons and new strains of coronavirus in Ukraine -> meaning: we need some shitty fabrications to later justify the use of biological and chemical weapons against Ukraine
I would not put chemical warfare or bioweapons past Putin. In fact, it's perfectly in line with his previous usage of nerve agents to assassinate his political opponents. However, I recall the U.S. vehemently denying funding gain of function research in Wuhan where it turns out they actually did fund experiments with bat coronaviruses. So likewise, I would not put it past the U.S. to have been funding whatever twisted experiments in Ukraine just as they were doing in China. I have yet to see any evidence of this, of course, but it's not a wild theory. It took something like a year before the NIH admitted what was going on in Wuhan. There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.
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March 11, 2022, 06:32:59 AM |
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‘Humanitarian corridors’ leading to Russia or Belarus rejected by KyivKyiv has rejected an offer from Moscow to create “humanitarian corridors” allowing civilians to flee six heavily bombed Ukrainian cities after it emerged that most of the supposedly safe routes led directly to Russia or its ally, Belarus.
The Russian offer came before a third round of peace talks. The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said in advance of the discussions that Moscow was ready to halt operations “in a moment” if Kyiv met a list of conditions. These included ceasing military action, changing its constitution to ensure neutrality, acknowledging Crimea as Russian territory and recognising the self-proclaimed republics in Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states.
Sounds pretty inhumane imo.
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March 11, 2022, 06:47:12 AM |
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Oh no, what a set back ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FTq7mjQZ%2FUnt1.jpg&t=665&c=JXdZB3VgMd0hGQ) When you just had enough of the shit and need to go for a shit. https://youtu.be/108GNhaaaQA
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This was supposed to be a bad thing for Putin? Why was he there in the first place? Once a WEF muppet, always a WEF muppet.
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This was supposed to be a bad thing for Putin? Why was he there in the first place? Once a WEF muppet, always a WEF muppet. The reason I've heard floated by the Putin-the-Christian-white-knight crowd is that he was a KGB agent 'infiltrating' the organization in order to take it down. Given that the target audience is the Q-tard class, that will probably work. Oh yeah, just a note on the body-bag footage, note that it is kinda of 2nd degree fake. It was some dopey eco-tard 'die-in' some years ago where morons wrap themselves in plastic bags to symbolize 'humanity' dieing from cow fart poisoning. Take note, and also take note of whatever organization was trying to pass it off as Russian (and before that, covaids) fake news. It's designed to paint people who are on the 'truth-based' side of these psy-ops look fake and stupid.
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March 11, 2022, 07:22:54 AM |
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.
No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine, I can say that no one was so interested in Ukraine until the beginning of February. Russia's fake statements that the United States has some interests here and is developing such weapons are made solely to prepare Russian audience (and perhaps some part of the world community, if they are still counting on their influence) for the possible use of chemical or biological weapons against us. Their experience is full of such precedents. It's time for the whole world to remember: if you want to know about Russia's plans, listen to what it accuses others of. ‘Humanitarian corridors’ leading to Russia or Belarus rejected by KyivKyiv has rejected an offer from Moscow to create “humanitarian corridors” allowing civilians to flee six heavily bombed Ukrainian cities after it emerged that most of the supposedly safe routes led directly to Russia or its ally, Belarus.
The Russian offer came before a third round of peace talks. The Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said in advance of the discussions that Moscow was ready to halt operations “in a moment” if Kyiv met a list of conditions. These included ceasing military action, changing its constitution to ensure neutrality, acknowledging Crimea as Russian territory and recognising the self-proclaimed republics in Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states.
Sounds pretty inhumane imo. This is not inhumane. Living as a blind propagandist slave is inhumane. And this is all Russia can offer. They are creating these so-called "humanitarian corridors" solely to film it and show on television how they are liberating the Russian-speaking population from the neo-Nazis. No one who identifies himself as a Ukrainian agrees to use these false proposals. People choose to sit in basements while their homes are bombed, but not go to Russia. Do you know what happened to the people whom Russia allegedly evacuated from the occupied Donbass and Luhansk 4 weeks ago? They were taken by bus to the Rostov region, in one of the beautiful flourishing Russian town "Red Landing". And threw on the road. People stayed for 3 days in buses and began to return home, because no one wants them there. But not everyone managed to return. The men began to be mobilized (on what damn grounds ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ) and sent to war against their own country. The conditions voiced by the shitty Peskov mean the capitulation of Ukraine and the renunciation of its own territories. Is this how negotiations are underway in the "democratic" country of Russia? Is this how the democratic western world reacts to all these ultimatums, threats and the embodiment of these bloody threats? Why the hell Ukraine has to meet these demands if the majestic invincible Russian army is already losing this war to us?
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Sure, let's call that "something something China" for now. If not in China, where else might the U.S. fund gain of function research? Ukraine seems unlikely. And as I've mentioned I've yet to see any evidence, but these things hardly come as a surprise anymore.
So why even bring this up here? Not enough COVID conspiracy threads? Zero relevance to Russia-Ukraine war, it's just words "lab" and "research" and because the other thing has the same words then let's throw it too into the dumpster fire. This whole "I don't support Putin but <insert Kremlin propaganda almost word for word>" shtick is getting old. Relevant to the extent only if Putin takes Ukraine, he also takes these bio research labs if they exist or if they're active. Alternatively, it gives Putin an excuse to launch some false flag operation - release a bioweapon and just blame the U.S. or Ukraine for releasing it. I'm thinking it will be the latter because these low effort false flag attempts seem to be the standard now. In other news: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-03-11/ukraine-says-belarus-leader-was-with-putin-at-time-of-false-flag-attackUkraine claims false flag attack on Belarus conducted by Russian jets.
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March 11, 2022, 07:40:56 PM |
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Ok, so for now, these organisations that are telling Putin that he may be wrong - seriously wrong I mean, not like when you choose the wrong key to open the door or take the wrong bus, but life-changing-mistake wrong: - Switzerland - Luxembourg - Israel - Turkey - And now the WEF - Apple Seriously, Apple is famous for getting things right. Is not that you cannot buy yourself an iPhone, is that you ARE wrong. And WEF... this should really be the last straw. If you look at the people there, most of them are really rotten bastards... if THAT kind of people do not want you there, you really need to reconsider.
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March 12, 2022, 09:54:30 AM |
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Communication, propaganda in communism are full of lies because they are dictators and have almost full control in their regimes. It is normal to see how Putin tries to insert as many lies as possible into his communication machines.
Don't trust what communists say, see what they do. Apply it with what Putin says, what he does. I don't generalize what Putin does, what he is with what Russians are because it is absolutely wrong. However, if people trust Putin, in my opinion, they are either stupid, blinded or too naive.
What's wrong with Russians are they let Putin has power for too long, more than 20 years and allow him to change Constitution as much as he wants. It sucks and now I hope they see it's time to fight back Putin, for their own sake of freedom and the power of Russian people.
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.......... if people trust Putin, in my opinion, they are either stupid, blinded or too naive. .....
Don't trust anyone especially some internet trolls. Media is nothing but propaganda anywhere in the world, proven time and time again, they lie. Endless stream of lies https://youtu.be/fXGH13N5KGA![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FFYvHBpc%2F2022-03-12-122308-1280x800-scrot.png&t=665&c=xHFB0v5nFRBnuQ)
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March 12, 2022, 10:55:43 AM |
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Communication, propaganda in communism are full of lies because they are dictators and have almost full control in their regimes. It is normal to see how Putin tries to insert as many lies as possible into his communication machines.
Don't trust what communists say, see what they do. Apply it with what Putin says, what he does. I don't generalize what Putin does, what he is with what Russians are because it is absolutely wrong. However, if people trust Putin, in my opinion, they are either stupid, blinded or too naive.
What's wrong with Russians are they let Putin has power for too long, more than 20 years and allow him to change Constitution as much as he wants. It sucks and now I hope they see it's time to fight back Putin, for their own sake of freedom and the power of Russian people.
Wat? Russia isn't ruled by communism since the collapse of the Soviets. If you want to see what communism looks like, see Trump's latest podcast with Joe Rogan... if you can find it, since it and its reuploads getting removed in a few hours after they get uploaded. Luckily commy youtube isn't the only game in town: https://www.bitchute.com/video/WdzbBWQbKhzd/
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Wat?
Russia isn't ruled by communism since the collapse of the Soviets. If you want to see what communism looks like
I knew the collapse of Soviet Union which looks like a began of something good. Putin took over and has brought it back unofficially. No one can deny what Putin has done is his attempt to bring Soviet Union back. From Russian politics to the current war, invasion in Ukraine. What he distorted his national Constitution just because of his own power is a big shame. Such constitutional distortions happen in Russia, China, Belarus, why? Because they are under dictators and politics there are a joke. Dictators obsess about themselves, then think and say without them, their nations will collapse. No one can take over their positions at the moment so they have to change national constitutions. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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The most disgusting thing is that they are so stuck in this lie that they have learned not to think outside it. When the world saw photos and videos of the maternity hospital in Mariupol after the attack, on which wounded pregnant women were shot, people from Russia began to ask how much they were paid for setting this up and applying makeup. That is, they explain all the evidence of houses razed to the ground, killed and wounded people from the standpoint that this is all an imitation, using which Kyiv wants to deceive the whole world.They don`t ask questions why Ukraine needs this? Why nobody in the whole world went out to protest with the Russian flag in support of the actions of the Russian government? Why were more that million of Ukrainians forced to leave our country in just 2 weeks? And other questions that could open their eyes. The bitter truth is that Russian people feel comfortable to live in a lie. Living this way doesn`t make them think about all this shitty atmosphere and conditions most of their population are living in. They prefer the myth about Great Empire rather then doing something to actually make their country great.
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The most disgusting thing is that they are so stuck in this lie that they have learned not to think outside it. When the world saw photos and videos of the maternity hospital in Mariupol after the attack, on which wounded pregnant women were shot, people from Russia began to ask how much they were paid for setting this up and applying makeup. That is, they explain all the evidence of houses razed to the ground, killed and wounded people from the standpoint that this is all an imitation, using which Kyiv wants to deceive the whole world.They don`t ask questions why Ukraine needs this? Why nobody in the whole world went out to protest with the Russian flag in support of the actions of the Russian government? Why were more that million of Ukrainians forced to leave our country in just 2 weeks? And other questions that could open their eyes. The bitter truth is that Russian people feel comfortable to live in a lie. Living this way doesn`t make them think about all this shitty atmosphere and conditions most of their population are living in. They prefer the myth about Great Empire rather then doing something to actually make their country great. You are absolutely right, the empire of lies is russia, nazism and fascism are in russia, there is a usual mirroring. It's like a counter-indicator, everything is reversed. In the ru-branches of the forum, stubborn quilted jackets-putinists are sitting and telling lies about "great" russia and how putin outplayed everyone. It's called clinical idiocy.
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I just want to ask a question, what is the main function of the UN? What is the need for an organization like the United Nations in the world?
What is the role of the UN when a war-like situation arises between two countries?
I do not see any other activity of the UN except the provocative activities between the internal and external problems of different countries. They have taken sides instead of negotiating between Russia and Ukraine like (Israel and Palestine) and are forcing Russia to move towards World War III through various economic bans. The world is now being controlled by some corrupt and incompetent people, On the other hand, the media is one of the biggest culprits and the center of corruption and propaganda.
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.
No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine,<> You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public. Alternatively, it gives Putin an excuse to launch some false flag operation - release a bioweapon and just blame the U.S. or Ukraine for releasing it. I'm thinking it will be the latter because these low effort false flag attempts seem to be the standard now.
I think Putin may use bio/chemical weapons and blame it on the US. I think he may claim that either the US launched a false flag operation or that the release of the weapons was the result of a bomb hitting a government/military building. Russia started the talk about bioweapons after they invaded, so they are not using it as a pretext for the invasion. Putin did not expect this level of resistance. It is possible that Putin plans on covertly using these types of weapons as a means of getting Ukraine to surrender. It would really not be possible for Ukraine to defend against these types of attacks, however, Russia explicitly using these weapons may get countries like India to change their stance on the war.
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.
No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine,<> You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public. Alternatively, it gives Putin an excuse to launch some false flag operation - release a bioweapon and just blame the U.S. or Ukraine for releasing it. I'm thinking it will be the latter because these low effort false flag attempts seem to be the standard now.
I think Putin may use bio/chemical weapons and blame it on the US. I think he may claim that either the US launched a false flag operation or that the release of the weapons was the result of a bomb hitting a government/military building. Russia started the talk about bioweapons after they invaded, so they are not using it as a pretext for the invasion. Putin did not expect this level of resistance. It is possible that Putin plans on covertly using these types of weapons as a means of getting Ukraine to surrender. It would really not be possible for Ukraine to defend against these types of attacks, however, Russia explicitly using these weapons may get countries like India to change their stance on the war. It may also be that Putin wants to provide some damaged brain food for his own people... so for now, he is not conducting a war, he is fighting the Nazis, the Ukrainians and Russians are his people, civilian targets are only hit because there are troops inside, NATO is guilty of all this, whoever disagrees or says so in public is a criminal, ... If you can believe that, you can also believe that Ukraine was creating WMD why not.
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March 12, 2022, 10:36:00 PM |
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There is definitely something fishy going on in Ukraine with regards to bio-weapons. It is unclear what exactly is going on, and there is the potential that the US is setting Russia up for embarrassment when they say their purpose of the invasion is to remove chemical weapons from Ukraine and are unable to find evidence of such.
No chemical or biological weapons are being developed on the territory of Ukraine. As a citizen of Ukraine,<> You can't possibly know that. Any chemical/biological weapons facilities are generally going to be kept secret, and wont be known to the general public. You can literally say the same thing for any country in the world. The last thing anyone is going to publicly admit is "we have chemical/biological weapons facilities here." But, of course, that doesn't mean we should all be paranoid. That doesn't mean we should send hundreds of thousands of troops and invade their country and occupy it, using nuclear weapons to intimidate them into submission. That doesn't mean we should force their people to "buy in" to our authoritarian regime. That doesn't mean we should bomb their cities. That doesn't mean we should kill thousands of people. That doesn't mean we should wage all out war. However, that is exactly what is taking place in Ukraine right now.
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