Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[suchmoon]

some kind of convoy of troops is traveling through the territory of Belarus

What kind of convoy could it be? Ukrainian forces in Belarus? Belarusian forces decided to paint "V" on their vehicles?

by the end of 2021 all Tochka-U missiles of this unit will be replaced with Iskanders

Russia removed Tochka-U from service several years ago

Ok then, one debunked lie at a time.

The same one that flew to Donetsk three weeks ago

I don't think that's how missiles work, but if it's really the same then it was in possession of DNR, wasn't it?

[be.open]

I don't think that's how missiles work, but if it's really the same then it was in possession of DNR, wasn't it?

Three weeks ago, a Ukrainian Tochka-U missile flew into Donetsk, they managed to shoot it down, but there were still casualties. In Kramatorsk, they did not even try to shoot down the rocket and the cluster munition went off right in the thick of people at the station.

I think Ukraine just doesn't want civilians to leave Kramatorsk to the east, they want to keep using the tactic of hiding behind civilians as human shields. In this area, a blow to the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Russia is brewing, there are rumors that a fresh armored corps has been brought up from Kursk.

Ok then, one debunked lie at a time.

In your fantasies, you can debunk anything. It is quite easy to determine with great accuracy where the rocket came from, it was fired from a distance of 45 km southwest of Kramatorsk.

[suchmoon]

I think Ukraine just doesn't want civilians to leave Kramatorsk to the east

People in the train station were waiting to go west. There are no trains going east. It would be absurd to evacuate towards the front line, of course people are trying to get away from the war.

And:

Kramatorsk local authorities were starting to evacuating residents by buses and cars, according to the mayor of the city Oleksandr Honcharenko.

"Today we are starting an emergency evacuation of people with all public transport, all private transport. We are looking for drivers. Approximate 30-40 drivers are needed as of today," Honcharenko said during an online briefing.

[TwitchySeal]

The operation had a chance to become fast, but very small. Ukraine is the largest country in Europe, after Russia, it is much larger than Germany or France.

Your excuses for Russias military failures aren't true, and even if they were, they don't make sense - unless you're trying to say Putin was surprised at how large Ukraine was geographically after he tried to overthrow their government.

If you include Crimea and Donbass, Ukraine is only slightly bigger than France.



If you don't consider Crimea and Donbass as part of Ukraine, France is actually larger.

You are the victim of Russian propaganda.

[Branko]

I would be grateful if people from Ukraine and Russia could comment this video
(and point what's possibly wrong/untrue):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhkJZ3Dyb4

[paxmao]

I think Ukraine just doesn't want civilians to leave Kramatorsk to the east

People in the train station were waiting to go west. There are no trains going east. It would be absurd to evacuate towards the front line, of course people are trying to get away from the war.

And:

Kramatorsk local authorities were starting to evacuating residents by buses and cars, according to the mayor of the city Oleksandr Honcharenko.

"Today we are starting an emergency evacuation of people with all public transport, all private transport. We are looking for drivers. Approximate 30-40 drivers are needed as of today," Honcharenko said during an online briefing.

There is no sense in a false flag operation targeting a railway station in such an strategic location. It is a very valuable infrastructure that, at the moment is taking people west, but may also bring troops to the east.

If you wanted to further raise aversion to Putin's military there are targets without any strategic value and plenty of civilians. That is, if you are a total sociopath and this makes sense to you.

No, this was a planned attack to an strategic infrastructure and the fact that there were civilians was indifferent to the psychotic strategists in Putin's army.

You are the victim of Russian propaganda.

The more the Second World War came to an end, the closer were the German victories to Berlin.

You are talking about the tactical retreat / victory in Kyiv?

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In your fantasies, you can debunk anything. It is quite easy to determine with great accuracy where the rocket came from, it was fired from a distance of 45 km southwest of Kramatorsk.

And in your fantasies you can "prove" anything. Even if you are not presenting any evidence. The missile came from Shakhtarsk.

[Branko]

I would be grateful if people from Ukraine and Russia could comment this video
(and point what's possibly wrong/untrue):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhkJZ3Dyb4

He is an apologist for state terrorism.

I asked about facts or lies, not moral stance

[suchmoon]

The more the Second World War came to an end, the closer were the German victories to Berlin.

You are talking about the tactical retreat / victory in Kyiv?

It sounds like he's talking about Putin's "victories" getting closer to Moscow. Soon we'll be hearing about Russians heroically looting Voronezh to prevent anything valuable from falling into the hands of nazis.

[paxmao]

The more the Second World War came to an end, the closer were the German victories to Berlin.

You are talking about the tactical retreat / victory in Kyiv?

It sounds like he's talking about Putin's "victories" getting closer to Moscow. Soon we'll be hearing about Russians heroically looting Voronezh to prevent anything valuable from falling into the hands of nazis.

I think some of the posts here help so much the Ukrainian cause. I mean, the ones from be.open mostly.

[LTU_btc]

I think this is another provocation by Ukraine under a false flag, shortly after Bucha. Russia does not have Tochka-U missiles in service, and in the direction of the wreckage, it flew in from the southwest, from the territory controlled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

I didn't expected to hear something different from you. Ok, let's debunk it:
1. Russian forces used Tochka-U in military training in Belarus just before war in Ukraine:
https://rg.ru/2022/02/15/na-ucheniiah-v-belarusi-otrabatyvaiut-puski-raket-i-podderzhku-oboroniaiushchihsia-vojsk.html
It's also possibe that attack was made using Belarus owned Tochka-U, but I don't think that it change something.
2. You're saying that it flew from southwest, but there is reports and video taht Tochka-U was released from Shakhtarsk direction, which is controlled by Russia:
https://t.me/itsdonetsk/11817
3. Kramatorsk station was hited on 10:30 AM local time, but on Russian media there was message about it on 10:25 AM local time. Interesting that tweet was made via TweetDeck - tool used to make scheduled tweets:
https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1512345886268997632
4. Day before this attack on one pro-Russian Telegram channel there was post for people who are leaving Kramatorsk, Slovyansk and near cities suggesting to avoid railway transport:
https://imgur.com/TVZMOlu
And after all, I don't see why Ukraine would need to kill their own citizens, especially in such expensive way - they don't have that much Tochka-U missiles.

[suchmoon]

Russian military bravely looted Chernobyl:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/europe/chernobyl-russian-withdrawal-intl-cmd/index.html

"The Russian military went through all Ukrainian clothes, personal belongings, like dogs, in search of, probably, money, valuables, laptops,"

There's hope that Darwin may eventually catch up with some of them because apparently they also took radioactive samples from a lab.

[TwitchySeal]

Russian military bravely looted Chernobyl:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/europe/chernobyl-russian-withdrawal-intl-cmd/index.html

"The Russian military went through all Ukrainian clothes, personal belongings, like dogs, in search of, probably, money, valuables, laptops,"

There's hope that Darwin may eventually catch up with some of them because apparently they also took radioactive samples from a lab.

"I hope they don't find all the gold we buried in the red forest"

[Tash]

Russian military bravely looted Chernobyl:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/europe/chernobyl-russian-withdrawal-intl-cmd/index.html

"The Russian military went through all Ukrainian clothes, personal belongings, like dogs, in search of, probably, money, valuables, laptops,"

There's hope that Darwin may eventually catch up with some of them because apparently they also took radioactive samples from a lab.

Don't worry the CNN propaganda machine will bite the dust also.
This is still a pro Bitcoin forum, is't it?

[icopress]

Don't worry the CNN propaganda machine will bite the dust also.

Not earlier than, all those who were engaged in torture and murder will be punished.

[TwitchySeal]

Russian military bravely looted Chernobyl:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/europe/chernobyl-russian-withdrawal-intl-cmd/index.html

"The Russian military went through all Ukrainian clothes, personal belongings, like dogs, in search of, probably, money, valuables, laptops,"

There's hope that Darwin may eventually catch up with some of them because apparently they also took radioactive samples from a lab.

Don't worry the CNN propaganda machine will bite the dust also.
This is still a pro Bitcoin forum, is't it?

Remember when the talking point was that the whole war in Ukraine thing was fake?

LOCAL IN UKRAINE "NO WAR HERE" & COMPLETELY FAKE ASS MSM NEWS FOOTAGE & NARRATIVE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/htTj6cGnTgZC/

This is turning into a pretty good comedy.  Especially enjoyable is watching the reactions of the (highly vaxxed) mouth breathers who watch the mainstream media and think it's real.

Tel-lie-vision the biggest enemy there is

“All the world’s a stage”

William Shakespeare




https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1498090127146504193

[Tash]

Russian military bravely looted Chernobyl:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/europe/chernobyl-russian-withdrawal-intl-cmd/index.html

"The Russian military went through all Ukrainian clothes, personal belongings, like dogs, in search of, probably, money, valuables, laptops,"

There's hope that Darwin may eventually catch up with some of them because apparently they also took radioactive samples from a lab.

Don't worry the CNN propaganda machine will bite the dust also.
This is still a pro Bitcoin forum, is't it?

Remember when the talking point was that the whole war in Ukraine thing was fake?

LOCAL IN UKRAINE "NO WAR HERE" & COMPLETELY FAKE ASS MSM NEWS FOOTAGE & NARRATIVE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/htTj6cGnTgZC/

This is turning into a pretty good comedy.  Especially enjoyable is watching the reactions of the (highly vaxxed) mouth breathers who watch the mainstream media and think it's real.

Tel-lie-vision the biggest enemy there is

“All the world’s a stage”

William Shakespeare



https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1498090127146504193

Remember once again there will be the same result, no place for Nazis in this world.

[TwitchySeal]

Russian military bravely looted Chernobyl:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/europe/chernobyl-russian-withdrawal-intl-cmd/index.html

"The Russian military went through all Ukrainian clothes, personal belongings, like dogs, in search of, probably, money, valuables, laptops,"

There's hope that Darwin may eventually catch up with some of them because apparently they also took radioactive samples from a lab.

Don't worry the CNN propaganda machine will bite the dust also.
This is still a pro Bitcoin forum, is't it?

Remember when the talking point was that the whole war in Ukraine thing was fake?

LOCAL IN UKRAINE "NO WAR HERE" & COMPLETELY FAKE ASS MSM NEWS FOOTAGE & NARRATIVE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/htTj6cGnTgZC/

This is turning into a pretty good comedy.  Especially enjoyable is watching the reactions of the (highly vaxxed) mouth breathers who watch the mainstream media and think it's real.

Tel-lie-vision the biggest enemy there is

“All the world’s a stage”

William Shakespeare



https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1498090127146504193

Remember once again there will be the same result, no place for Nazis in this world.

What about the ones you've been defending lately?

[Veleor]

Reporters from the Washington Post arrived at the train station in Kramatorsk 15 minutes after the attack.
Are they on duty around the clock in every Ukrainian city?

Not earlier than, all those who were engaged in torture and murder will be punished.

Patrick Lancaster informed that the body of a dead woman with a swastika was found in the basement of a Mariupol school. Disturbing video! - https://youtu.be/6LQSYmda0Sc
I decided to clarify it, because a few days ago there was a message from the Ukrainian official Alexey Arestovich that this victim was found in Gostomel.

[Tash]

...............
Remember once again there will be the same result, no place for Nazis in this world.

What about the ones you've been defending lately?

So your argument is the war is a good thing, two Nazi sides shoot each other, the Ukraine govenment Azov battalion and some lost souls on the other side of the fence.

What about the Australian peace vehicle did they join also?

[hellflame]

War crimes are being commited by ukrainian soldiers also.

https://twitter.com/OTorresdelCampo/status/1511421975008272391

Russian prisoners knee capped,mutilated and burned.

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1508777630836969474

A Russian POW it's dragged on the floor like a corpse and laid besides two Russian corpses. The man recording loads his rifle. The Russian POW begs in terror.
Russian PoWs getts executed.

https://twitter.com/iamavikjordan/status/1509845638749442051?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/KPDanielle1/status/1510686202978045959?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/KPDanielle1/status/1510886293852594181

It might give the impression that the Russian military were captured after having been wounded. But that’s not the case. At the end of the video, we can see Ukrainian soldiers shooting all the newly arrived prisoners through their legs.

https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1507975846384082945

Ukrainian soldier using deceased russian pow phone to call and taunt his/her family

https://twitter.com/raczylo/status/1508046216420020225