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Question: Which of the team do you think will win the Final
Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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December 16, 2022, 05:27:17 PM
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...but what I see is that France has a stronger defense than Argentina but in the final it's always different because anyone from the two sides can win it.
I would not say that the French defense is solid, Morocco were able to get through with some tick tack football down through the wing Hakim Ziyech was playing, what saved France from being scored goals is that Morocco were not lucky and do not have reliable finishers to score. Argentina on the other hand have a better attack than Morocco, and their defense is fairly reliable so far they are not distracted, so the game is still fairly leveled considering both teams and the quality of players both team have. For France, it will be a chance to win it again after the last time, For Argentina, it is a chance to win it after their last time in 1978 and 1986.

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December 16, 2022, 05:29:04 PM
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For Morocco to be able to play in the semifinals is more than enough, so they don't feel disappointed by the defeat to France. What they faced was also the defending champion team. Even so, Morocco can play well. Even France was overwhelmed by the attacks carried out by Moroccan players. It's something extraordinary that Moroccan players do.
Indeed. Morocco players have made a great history. It is the first time they reach the semi-final, they have defeated some strong teams. If they are unable to reach the final, it is no problem for them. They have tried their best to defeat Franch in the semi-final match, just look at the stats that showed clearly their good efforts. They won the ball possession (62%), they made 13 shot attempts compared to 14 shots attempts made by France. This is surely an impressive effort. I believe Morocco players won't regret their lose against France. Now, they must focus on the next match for the third-place match. It is not over yet, they still have a chance to make another history.  Smiley

Now Argentina is the following challenge. We believe that Deschamps's strategy with France on December 18 will be able to make a new history by lifting a second trophy in a row.
Yep. Since the current France team ever experienced the final round previously, they should have a better mentality and be more confident. They also have a better squad, they have strong players in every line. So, I also think Deschamps will win 2 world cup titles in a row. He must know to choose an appropriate tactic to deal with Argentina challenge.


The last World Cup champion team is France.  Now again in the final.  So their confidence is high.  Moreover, the squad that France has is ready to face any situation.  But on the other hand, the players of Argentina are not less.  They also play at big clubs and are unbeaten in 36 matches except for an unexpected defeat against Saidi Arab.  The last Copa America win, and the Finalsima win.  However, the World Cup is on a different scale.  But he is also confident enough.  Even then, Messi often has to do things alone.  Which France does not have to do.  Anyone in France can do anything. Let's see what happens.


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December 16, 2022, 05:31:10 PM
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Meanwhile, France which is currently without Benzema, is possibility will not win in this final, although the current French squad can't be underestimated, but against Argentina and Messi will be the toughest for them. Also usually I tend favorited France for win, but this time I'm going to switch to Messi with Argentina.
Why are you leaving France's Kylian Mbappé and Antoine Griezmann off the list of good players?  Kylian Mbappé is a very good player in France and he plays with a lot of technique and is able to run very fast so you cannot rule out France's chances of winning.  Yes Messi is a great player and has many great records and has won multiple golden boots.  That's not to say he can win Argentina alone . But it can be said that Argentina's chances of winning are slightly higher
Maybe it's a personal judgement, I don't think there's a problem with that, because there will be different points of view among the fans. Likewise what we see in this post. Messi and Mbappe will fight for the title. Regardless of the differences, I hope this final will present something extraordinary from both countries. This is the culmination of all the surprises that have happened in the World Cup.
I don't think it will matter much either because Benzema is not there because France has a lot of other quality players.
precisely in this match there is rivalry or proof of the players who are currently shining, namely Messi and Mbappe, but apart from that I think a fierce match will not be avoided because the quality of these two teams is very good and both teams also have quality players in every line.
without benzema olivier giroud is a player who fills france front line and his statistics show he is quite good at finishing where he has scored 4 goals so far and is 1 goal away from his colleague mbappe who is the provisional top scorer. Olivier Giroud, who last season won the Scudetto trophy with AC Milan and if France wins the final then it will be a perfect achievement for Olivier Giroud this year. lionel messi and alvarez are a pretty good duo that argentina has at the qatar world cup I'm sure they will be able to make it difficult for Theo Hernandez to keep their moves. even messi through the press recently he said that they will be able to apply pressure early and are not afraid of Theo Hernandez.
It would not be fair to compare Benzema to any other striker in the France team. If Benzema had played from the start of the World Cup, France could have achieved more. Benzema is a very quality player.
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December 16, 2022, 05:33:39 PM
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I think Dembele needs to make a bigger contribution to the team. He has made 2 assists so far in the Poland and Australia matches. There is no goals scored by him so far. He has a really good talent actually but maybe he isn't able to take much responsibility in the absence of Mbappe especially. Dembele is more active while playing for Barcelona for example. But when you have a bigger star player among your teammates you might need to be more careful with your game. France haven't had any problem about this topic so far anyway.

Benzema's absence hasn't also been felt much as Giroud has been very successful. Benzema is still an important player for France of course but this shows that he is replaceable as well now.

Obviously Mbappe is more important than Dembele but I think the position of Dembele and Mbappe is different because it seems like Dembele plays more on the right and Mbappe on the left. With that difference I think it doesn't matter if both are played at the same time, and it also happened in this moment but Dembele is indeed often substituted and it seems very rarely Dembele plays the full 90 minutes.
Dembele and Mbappe are the main choices at their respective clubs, so it's not surprising that in the French national team at this World Cup moment Dembele and Mbappe are always the first choice in the starting eleven.

Regarding Benzema, at first it was predicted that France would have difficulties due to Benzema's absence but the fact did not happen, maybe because Benzema's absence also made Giroud able to show his quality as an old player who is still very productive.
It's just that maybe this is the last chance for Benzema to play in the World Cup, but in reality Benzema can't play because he's still suffering from an injury even though Benzema is in his best performance after getting the Ballon d'Or too.

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December 16, 2022, 05:37:00 PM
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Really? I just found out about this, it's possible that Raphael Varane and Ibrahim Konate won't be able to strengthen France in the final match later. I think this happened so suddenly, even though during the semifinal match against Morocco Raphael Varane was still healthy as usual. Rabiot and Upamecano are important players besides Raphael Varane, I hope they get treated soon and can recover before the final match against Argentina later.
I have been hearing about this issue since yesterday, but at that time there was no confirmation on how many players had the virus. I don't know, it's bad about France but I really have doubts about how many players will miss the final. Things can change when the medical team is able to make a recovery effort, but of course missing a few players because of this problem will benefit the Argentinian side.

Whatever it is I wish the best for the French squad. I'm expecting a really great final in a few days although some players will be out due to illness. If France has it, then what's the bad news about Argentina?

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December 16, 2022, 05:39:20 PM
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Yes, I will be neutral in the final match later. I will not support either of these two teams (France-Argentina). Because it doesn't matter who wins. and what is expected is that the match will be interesting and not boring. I expect a lot of goals in the match. it will be very exciting if these two teams return each other in scoring goals. However, if you remember Messi's situation, it is said that Messi will probably play for the last time in the World Cup. then surely many expect Argentina to win.
Don't expect a lot of goals in the final match, you should know that both teams have a good defense with only 5 goals conceded from all matches until both teams reach the final. France have relatively younger attackers and have good pace and acceleration in Mbappe and Dembele, while Argentina will probably just rely on the individual skills of Messi and Alvarez who are sometimes easier to stop with physical contact or a few clean tackles.

I know many people will favor France for all the abilities of its players, but I think Argentina should never be underestimated either. France as the defending champion will make efforts to defend the title, but Argentina will fight to win it because of the determination of its players.

Yes, you are right, they are not going to play very cautious looking for a counterattack.
they know each other and respect each other they are not foolish enough to play in a disorderly and decomposed way, I am more than sure of that

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December 16, 2022, 05:39:41 PM
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I see only one scenario Argentina winning the World Cup title. It is that they should play an offensive game and shouldn't be afraid of France players even for once. Even if they hesitate for a short period of time this would cause a weakness to occur in themselves and France would be there to take advantage of it. Argentina aren't a good team in defense which we have seen before clearly. Their conceding two goals and losing their 2-0 advantage against Netherlands can be a good example I assume.

Argentina should play an attacking game not to be dominated by France. They have great offense players Messi being in the first place. They won't come across a weak defense that's for sure. Messi's performance will have a big importance here.

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December 16, 2022, 05:44:28 PM
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Yes, I will be neutral in the final match later. I will not support either of these two teams (France-Argentina). Because it doesn't matter who wins. and what is expected is that the match will be interesting and not boring. I expect a lot of goals in the match. it will be very exciting if these two teams return each other in scoring goals. However, if you remember Messi's situation, it is said that Messi will probably play for the last time in the World Cup. then surely many expect Argentina to win.
Don't expect a lot of goals in the final match, you should know that both teams have a good defense with only 5 goals conceded from all matches until both teams reach the final. France have relatively younger attackers and have good pace and acceleration in Mbappe and Dembele, while Argentina will probably just rely on the individual skills of Messi and Alvarez who are sometimes easier to stop with physical contact or a few clean tackles.

I know many people will favor France for all the abilities of its players, but I think Argentina should never be underestimated either. France as the defending champion will make efforts to defend the title, but Argentina will fight to win it because of the determination of its players.
I wouldn't be sure there won't be many goals. Of course usually such serious games are played very carefully to avoid mistakes, but Argentina and France are two attacking teams. If a quick goal happens, one of the teams will have to take their chances. And the previous games have been played with an array of goals. France scored two, Argentina three.
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December 16, 2022, 05:46:11 PM
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well, I still think Argentina will win
I have seen Leo Messi very angry and very aggressive in interviews
In my opinion, before retiring he wants to take the world cup with him
and there is, I wish him with all my heart
he deserves it

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December 16, 2022, 05:47:15 PM
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I'm a Brazil supporter but I'm a big fan of Messi. After my favorite team Brazil got eliminated, I support Argentina team. Because Argentina has Messi in the team. I hope Argentina will win the World Cup this time but Messi has to play very well in this game then maybe Messi.  Now you can retire with the cup.
Apart from the competition between Messi and Mbappe, what do you think is the most interesting thing to look forward to in the 2022 World Cup final?
I also believe that Messi has high hopes of winning this final, he will do everything to make it happen, but it's never going to be easy if the other Argentinian players don't do their best.

So far the statistics for Argentina and France are almost the same so it will be difficult to determine who is better. France and Argentina both conceded 5 goals, but France is 1 goal ahead of the total they scored where France has 13 goals and Argentina 12 goals. Maybe the advantage of the players will affect the result of this final match, but I think it will be good to support Argentina to win the title because it will be very spectacular compared to France winning.
As a football lover no matter which team I support.  The World Cup will be completed in the hands of Messi.  Because Messi is the best footballer.  France will try to become champions for the second time.  But Messi will not give up anything for Messi's ultimate achievement.  Messi's teammates are dedicated to the team and Messi.  With the tenacity and team work we saw in the last semi-final, we can only hope for Argentina.  And maybe so will Messi's magic


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December 16, 2022, 05:52:28 PM
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well, I still think Argentina will win
I have seen Leo Messi very angry and very aggressive in interviews
In my opinion, before retiring he wants to take the world cup with him
and there is, I wish him with all my heart
he deserves it
I'm not believing on interview of any players, because i know that after bragging on television channels any team wants to win will definitely win, and secondly i want to say that, why Argentina will win it's not because of messi pressure or not, but the only way they can defeat France is with strategies, because expect that i believe that France may defeat them, the only way Argentina can win is the process whereby they directly mark mbappe.
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December 16, 2022, 05:52:32 PM
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well, I still think Argentina will win
I have seen Leo Messi very angry and very aggressive in interviews
In my opinion, before retiring he wants to take the world cup with him
and there is, I wish him with all my heart
he deserves it
There is a possibility that Argentina will win the World Cup now and Messi is very ambitious to bring Argentina to victory, this may be the last time Messi lifts a trophy and after that retires quietly.
It's very appropriate for a Messi to get it but it's not easy but however Messi will definitely try to maximize in the final later.

I don't want this to be a sad cry for Messi for failing later.

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December 16, 2022, 05:58:05 PM
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Voted for Argentina just now. Quite surprised to see that they have almost 70% support. France is the defending champions and they only have around 30% of the users voting for them. I guess the absence of Pogba and Benzema had its impact on the fans. Also, a lot of the users are getting emotional, since this maybe the last world cup for Lionel Messi. He is already 35 years old and Argentina has never won a world cup since his birth. Argentina won the cup a total of 2 times - in 1978, and in 1986.
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December 16, 2022, 06:00:14 PM
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I don't want this to be a sad cry for Messi for failing later.

There is nothing to cry even if he doesnt win the World Cup. Argentina has made it to the final and he knows for sure that there will be only one winner in the end so there is nothing to be ashamed of. Its not Messi vs France but its Argentina vs France so the entire team that lost on the final would be responsible for their loss though

 
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December 16, 2022, 06:02:40 PM
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I've seen a variety of questions about who will win the trophy between Argentina and France, and the match is now between Messi and mbappe. France has more manpower to win against Argentina, and even if the odds turn in Argentina's favor, I still support France and Messi fans, who are so confident in their goat which I know they will be disappointed. I've also seen concerns about Croatia playing against Morocco again after playing to a draw during the group stage.
Before now I have always feared and respected the France team but after watching France versus Morocco I discovered that the strength of the France team lies on Mbappe and griezman. It also made me understand that France team is playable as Morocco were able to snatch the possession from them both halves. It is just that they were unfortunate to concede an early goal and if you sincerely watched Argentina versus crotia you will understand that the Argentina team can play very good football and the presence of Messi is a great advantage in the middle.
Well, Morocco is also a very strong team, after all, not just on the way they knocked out Spain and Portugal, also two of the strongest teams, world champions and European champions in previous years.
Yes, probably Morocco was a bit unlucky and they should have scored at least one goal, but luck and Lloris, were on the side of France.
Mbappe is one of the best players in the world right now and probably second only to Messi. Griezmann is also in great form, his contribution to the wins is huge, his assists have helped pass more than one opponent.
Yes, France's defense is not the best, as well as Argentina's, so they both conceded quite a lot.
The final will probably not be an exception either. 

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December 16, 2022, 06:06:38 PM
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Yes, I will be neutral in the final match later. I will not support either of these two teams (France-Argentina). Because it doesn't matter who wins. and what is expected is that the match will be interesting and not boring. I expect a lot of goals in the match. it will be very exciting if these two teams return each other in scoring goals. However, if you remember Messi's situation, it is said that Messi will probably play for the last time in the World Cup. then surely many expect Argentina to win.
Don't expect a lot of goals in the final match, you should know that both teams have a good defense with only 5 goals conceded from all matches until both teams reach the final. France have relatively younger attackers and have good pace and acceleration in Mbappe and Dembele, while Argentina will probably just rely on the individual skills of Messi and Alvarez who are sometimes easier to stop with physical contact or a few clean tackles.

I know many people will favor France for all the abilities of its players, but I think Argentina should never be underestimated either. France as the defending champion will make efforts to defend the title, but Argentina will fight to win it because of the determination of its players.

Yes, you are right, they are not going to play very cautious looking for a counterattack.
they know each other and respect each other they are not foolish enough to play in a disorderly and decomposed way, I am more than sure of that
We have seen in the last few matches that when the opposition team is good, it becomes very difficult to score several goals. And the expectation is the same in the final match because both teams deserve to be champions. No one should be looked down upon in any way. But it has to be acknowledged that Messi has performed well to reach this stage after losing to Saudi Arabia. The spirit they have developed to win is truly appreciable. Now if they can hold on to it at the end then they are successful. But it must be admitted that it is very uncertain because of the opposition team is France.

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December 16, 2022, 06:10:16 PM
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When you come to football experience you will know that messi have more experience than mbappe, so what I'm saying so far is that if assuming that Messi is not in Argentina and mbappe is not in France who do you think that can win, France or Argentina, messi is playing well likewise mbappe in France, it came to my understanding that messi dont want to Miss the wining of this tournament, because retirement as i said before, i know that the match is unpredictable but i have predicted the winner being Argentina.
I didn't said that Argentina or Messi can't able to won the cup . I just want to clarify that both team has the equal strength for winning this tournament. We can't underestimate or take lightly any team. I don't disagree with that Messi has much experience in football game than Mbappe  but I have to also agree with that MBappe has the ability to stay against Argentina. Anything could be possible in football. I also agree with than possiblity of winning ratio for Argentina can be more than France but france have also the ability as they are the champion of previous FIFA world cup.

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December 16, 2022, 06:11:13 PM
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I am disagree with your opinion about World Cup not incredible success, there are never have negative issues during World Cup first match begin until right now, have external problem before World Cup and several national team want to wear wrong with captain team logo, actually have yo respect with culture and rule adopted in host World Cup as Qatar.

Have been amazing atmosphere with World Cup 2022 because have able to break the record for the highest number of spectators during the world cup edition.
Before the World Cup, there was a lot of media coverage about corruption, homophobia, human rights violations and women's oppression. There were many reasons why the 2022 World Cup should not take place in Qatar. Allegedly many millions of Euros were used with political help. But now no more negative, time cannot be changed.

In what way is he wrong?  Grin
You think from the point of view of a football fan and he thinks from the point of view of a corrupt official who made very good money on this World Cup. It is obvious that corruption and dirty deeds in FIFA did not end with the departure of Blatter, but also continue. On the whole, this absurd championship in the middle of winter was successful for the officials, and they don't give a damn about the problems of the clubs that got into hard time trouble.
When you see it from this eye, then of course he is happy.

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December 16, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
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I don't want this to be a sad cry for Messi for failing later.

There is nothing to cry even if he doesnt win the World Cup. Argentina has made it to the final and he knows for sure that there will be only one winner in the end so there is nothing to be ashamed of. Its not Messi vs France but its Argentina vs France so the entire team that lost on the final would be responsible for their loss though

For me this time I think they deserve it which is why I want them to win. It's not about Messi but the way they have played the tournament throughout despite the upset in the first game was really something. It's gonna be a tough game in finals as they need a proper plan to check Mbappe's run. Molina and De Paul are the likely one's for the job but still have doubts if they will catch onto him everytime. Others in defence line also need to check on Giroud and Dembele who can also give slight troubles from time to time. It's gonna be a tough job and it will be interesting to see how Scaloni plans thing in finals.
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December 16, 2022, 06:19:50 PM
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well, I still think Argentina will win
I have seen Leo Messi very angry and very aggressive in interviews
In my opinion, before retiring he wants to take the world cup with him
and there is, I wish him with all my heart
he deserves it
Regarding Messi's wishes, to be honest I will support him.
I'm sure about his chances of winning the final and it's time for the Argentina team to fight for it very carefully.
Every mistake will be very fatal, and Argentina really has to avoid them, especially against Mbappe. I hope Argentina will win the cup in the end, but no one is going to take France and its best squad for granted. Let's hope no disappointment settles in at the end of his stay for Argentina, and if Messi does then I think there will be a lot of respect for him.
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