PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded!

[madnessteat]

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I absolutely agree with you. Any law can be circumvented if it does not include the death penalty as a punishment. Cockfighting owners can simply register their organization in another jurisdiction and continue to hold fights indoors, where law enforcement can't get to them. Residents of the Philippines will be able to visit such online gambling sites using a VPN.

[yazher]

Yes, gambling never ends. Even though there is a ban from the government, people are still gambling in hidden places. Offline and online gambling will thrive and attract people to keep coming back to gambling. That's because they can channel their desire to meet their friends and play gambling together. Maybe that taste is what they are looking for in the gambling world and can't find anywhere else. But hopefully, they can find another source of fun and not gambling because it will make them lose their money.

Yeah! if people realize their own mistakes, they will gonna take heed next time and eventually look for something that has no risk when only looking for fun. After all, the risk-free things are there and you don't need a bunch of groups to make you happy, just a small club where you meet some people who will gonna be like a family to you is enough to have fun as long as you don't do anything illegal. Spending time with the right people is also fun and the only thing that will ruin it is envy and other diseases of the heart.

[Yamifoud]

Yes, gambling never ends. Even though there is a ban from the government, people are still gambling in hidden places. Offline and online gambling will thrive and attract people to keep coming back to gambling. That's because they can channel their desire to meet their friends and play gambling together. Maybe that taste is what they are looking for in the gambling world and can't find anywhere else. But hopefully, they can find another source of fun and not gambling because it will make them lose their money.

Yeah! if people realize their own mistakes, they will gonna take heed next time and eventually look for something that has no risk when only looking for fun. After all, the risk-free things are there and you don't need a bunch of groups to make you happy, just a small club where you meet some people who will gonna be like a family to you is enough to have fun as long as you don't do anything illegal. Spending time with the right people is also fun and the only thing that will ruin it is envy and other diseases of the heart.

It does not end but will be minimized, that's what the government wants because they cannot totally eradicate gambling. Their decision is for the benefits of the poor, poor people has to spend on their needs as they cannot afford to gamble, maybe they will just gamble a small amount as their excuse but they tend to gambling addicting which we are trying to prevent.

[Fredomago]

It does not end but will be minimized, that's what the government wants because they cannot totally eradicate gambling. Their decision is for the benefits of the poor, poor people has to spend on their needs as they cannot afford to gamble, maybe they will just gamble a small amount as their excuse but they tend to gambling addicting which we are trying to prevent.

Easy access to gambling by means of digital money, gcash and paymaya if I'm not mistaken offer direct transactions for anyone to play directly from the previous E-Sabong website, I remember someone from my neighborhood that instead of using the Ayuda from the government the father of a certain family used big portions of the money to gamble and instead of having a much longer supplies; they needed to ask assistance again from their near side relatives for some extended help.

[carlisle1]

People will not stop supporting this because they got used to gambling when E-Sabong was legalized, and it's already part of our culture that some of us love Sabong. If it's easy for operators to operate an illegal online sabong, then they would not stop doing it, unless those who participated will also face the consequences but it's not the case because the liability only goes to the operators.

I'm sure that the people who support the E-sabong have decreased in big numbers today since it was suspended by the government. It's not convenient anymore to play here since deposits and withdrawals are not thru the famous payment method GCASH. Average gamblers won't surely like the idea of placing a bet on any other methods since their public information might be exposed. They are used using GCASH where cash-in and cashout are almost instant with no sweat.

It's also difficult to find an agent these days as they can't just show themselves to the public and promote illegal gambling operations. That will be a risky move for them and possibly might be caught by the authorities. They won't even be trusted right away by the public since everyone knows that E-Sabong is not operating anymore

They may be decreased in numbers but they still have huge followers of e-sabong remember this e-sabong has become a multi-billion pesos industry even beating revenues from cockfighting held in cockfight arenas, they are employing thousands of people the guerilla operation or underground operation will keep on and I don't think authorities can keep up, even if they are not using GCASH there's a possibility these operators will use Cryptocurrency, to avoid getting tracked.

That's a good possibility if those gamblers and operators will start using crypto and the bond between them developed good trust
It's very possible that they will continue operating this illegally.
I'm pretty sure that those elites are capable of working it out and facilitate without any radar from the authorities, as even before they
can locate them high officials who also part of the syndicate can easily track this information and feed it to the operators.

[crzy]

That's a good possibility if those gamblers and operators will start using crypto and the bond between them developed good trust
It's very possible that they will continue operating this illegally.
I'm pretty sure that those elites are capable of working it out and facilitate without any radar from the authorities, as even before they
can locate them high officials who also part of the syndicate can easily track this information and feed it to the operators.

Illegal gambling will always be part of our corrupt system, I don't think we can still change this one.
With regards to crypto adoption, I don't think its a good idea since not all bettors know Cryptocurrency and the online sabong target market is the poor people who are easily get addicted and don't know much about the risk of gambling, crypto is too broad for them. Well, the authorities should continue to regulate this and monitor the whole system, many are still addict on this sabong.

[Distinctin]

The way I see it, I might be wrong but I seriously think that they are already dead because why would they hide these agents for months now. Well, that said, I hope I'm wrong.

There is so much discussion on this - this should happen and this should not happen.
But this gambling has never ended - and it will never end. Maybe - the people in the village and middle class people have this entertainment and source of enjoyment - dont think there is any end to it.

Perhaps, you're just confused about this discussion. This Sabong is a traditional game in the Philippines where the middle class and lower class is the majority participants, the game was already circulating in the country and was introduced in the somewhere in the 15th century, so we can somehow say that this won't end anytime soon.

The government and authorities are just banning the online version of the game and not the the actually Sabong itself where you can bet personally.

[Viscore]

It does not end but will be minimized, that's what the government wants because they cannot totally eradicate gambling. Their decision is for the benefits of the poor, poor people has to spend on their needs as they cannot afford to gamble, maybe they will just gamble a small amount as their excuse but they tend to gambling addicting which we are trying to prevent.

Easy access to gambling by means of digital money, gcash and paymaya if I'm not mistaken offer direct transactions for anyone to play directly from the previous E-Sabong website, I remember someone from my neighborhood that instead of using the Ayuda from the government the father of a certain family used big portions of the money to gamble and instead of having a much longer supplies; they needed to ask assistance again from their near side relatives for some extended help.

I believe gambling won't never be stopped even if the government tighten its rules. But given the case you said, using Ayuda for his gambling addiction, i guess that needs to be given discipline and even proper sanction from the government. Whether we deny it or not, those cash assistance from the government are even the fuels to gamble more especially that they don't hardly earned that money that is why its very easy for them to lose.

[Sirait]

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I absolutely agree with you. Any law can be circumvented if it does not include the death penalty as a punishment. Cockfighting owners can simply register their organization in another jurisdiction and continue to hold fights indoors, where law enforcement can't get to them. Residents of the Philippines will be able to visit such online gambling sites using a VPN.

really not worth it if the punishment for cockfighting perpetrators is the death penalty LOL. I strongly support the Philippine government to ban cockfighting but it would be even more effective if cockfighting was not banned but strictly regulated. Cockfighting is one of the longest bets in the world, it's hard to wipe it clean.

[Russlenat]

It does not end but will be minimized, that's what the government wants because they cannot totally eradicate gambling. Their decision is for the benefits of the poor, poor people has to spend on their needs as they cannot afford to gamble, maybe they will just gamble a small amount as their excuse but they tend to gambling addicting which we are trying to prevent.

Easy access to gambling by means of digital money, gcash and paymaya if I'm not mistaken offer direct transactions for anyone to play directly from the previous E-Sabong website, I remember someone from my neighborhood that instead of using the Ayuda from the government the father of a certain family used big portions of the money to gamble and instead of having a much longer supplies; they needed to ask assistance again from their near side relatives for some extended help.

I believe gambling won't never be stopped even if the government tighten its rules. But given the case you said, using Ayuda for his gambling addiction, i guess that needs to be given discipline and even proper sanction from the government. Whether we deny it or not, those cash assistance from the government are even the fuels to gamble more especially that they don't hardly earned that money that is why its very easy for them to lose.

Gambling has been always a problem in any given country, well not all but mostly. Even if the government will take harsh measures, the people can still find a way where and when to gamble because there will be always a gambling site/venue where they can gamble even if it's already illegal.

The problem in society nowadays, people tend to look for easy money that's why they chose to gamble even if the chance of losing is much more greater than winning. That's also why they are easily get scammed.

[sovie]

It does not end but will be minimized, that's what the government wants because they cannot totally eradicate gambling. Their decision is for the benefits of the poor, poor people has to spend on their needs as they cannot afford to gamble, maybe they will just gamble a small amount as their excuse but they tend to gambling addicting which we are trying to prevent.

Easy access to gambling by means of digital money, gcash and paymaya if I'm not mistaken offer direct transactions for anyone to play directly from the previous E-Sabong website, I remember someone from my neighborhood that instead of using the Ayuda from the government the father of a certain family used big portions of the money to gamble and instead of having a much longer supplies; they needed to ask assistance again from their near side relatives for some extended help.

I believe gambling won't never be stopped even if the government tighten its rules. But given the case you said, using Ayuda for his gambling addiction, i guess that needs to be given discipline and even proper sanction from the government. Whether we deny it or not, those cash assistance from the government are even the fuels to gamble more especially that they don't hardly earned that money that is why its very easy for them to lose.

Gambling has been always a problem in any given country, well not all but mostly. Even if the government will take harsh measures, the people can still find a way where and when to gamble because there will be always a gambling site/venue where they can gamble even if it's already illegal.

The problem in society nowadays, people tend to look for easy money that's why they chose to gamble even if the chance of losing is much more greater than winning. That's also why they are easily get scammed.

With the passage of time new generation interests are changing too. They are more relaxed and likes to live in a comfortable environment.
I believe in next couple of year - this gambling style will be limited to a few group of people. Of Course - government keeps a check but the people are way smarter than what gov thinks.

[michellee]

I absolutely agree with you. Any law can be circumvented if it does not include the death penalty as a punishment. Cockfighting owners can simply register their organization in another jurisdiction and continue to hold fights indoors, where law enforcement can't get to them. Residents of the Philippines will be able to visit such online gambling sites using a VPN.

I think the punishment will not be a death sentence but a prison sentence because this is different from the abuse of illegal drugs such as narcotics. At the same time, online cockfighting owners can choose where they can register their business and choose a country that allows gambling so they will not be penalized. The use of VPNs will grow, especially in the Philippines, so people will still be able to play online gambling.

Yeah! if people realize their own mistakes, they will gonna take heed next time and eventually look for something that has no risk when only looking for fun. After all, the risk-free things are there and you don't need a bunch of groups to make you happy, just a small club where you meet some people who will gonna be like a family to you is enough to have fun as long as you don't do anything illegal. Spending time with the right people is also fun and the only thing that will ruin it is envy and other diseases of the heart.

People who have lost many times and finally realize their mistakes will try to stop gambling and find other less risky pleasures. Maybe they need to find other activities that are not related to gambling, let alone gambling which is illegal in their country so they don't have to experience or get punished later. If they could find something that would allow them to enjoy their time apart from gambling, they wouldn't be wasting their money on anything but could actually be getting some valuable quality time.