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September 15, 2022, 01:16:22 AM
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GGG sounds not very confident or he wasn't asked the right question to say what has been needed to say but for the love of sport and Canelo wants to bring a good show for the people this Sept 16 which is the independence day of Mecico. Amazing how embarrassing could this be if Canelo loses the fight but Judges may really be on his side.

Golovkin is the guy who won on previous occasions (at least as per most of the neutral observers), and I don't think that he is suffering from any confidence issues. And I don't think that Golovkin is under any sort of pressure. There is not much expectation from him, given his age and the uneven betting odds. On the other hand, Canelo will be under a lot of pressure, with betting odds for him in the range of 1.15 to 1.20. And a defeat would do great harm to his career, given the accusation of jury bias in previous matches.

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September 15, 2022, 01:27:50 AM
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To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.
Thanks for the link.

As expected that there would be some slight physique change and i had noticed it too but its not that surprising considering that there's a slight bump on weight
but lets see if this one wont really be resulting into some sort of slow down.
Im already readying up for this upcoming weekend which would really be a good fight to look upon.Hope it wont disappoint.

GGG sounds not very confident or he wasn't asked the right question to say what has been needed to say but for the love of sport and Canelo wants to bring a good show for the people this Sept 16 which is the independence day of Mecico. Amazing how embarrassing could this be if Canelo loses the fight but Judges may really be on his side.

It's because the interviewer didn't asked the right answer or he just put GGG on the spot. So I don't think that he is not that confident is this fight, he is smiling and acknowledging the crowd but it was obvious a pro-Canelo. And that needed 8 lbs could bring something good in GGG, I think if he decided years ago to move to this division, he can do that. But obviously, he chooses a weight that he dominated for years and that is a good strategy for his career.

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September 15, 2022, 01:35:19 AM
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To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.
Thanks for the link.

As expected that there would be some slight physique change and i had noticed it too but its not that surprising considering that there's a slight bump on weight
but lets see if this one wont really be resulting into some sort of slow down.
Im already readying up for this upcoming weekend which would really be a good fight to look upon.Hope it wont disappoint.

GGG sounds not very confident or he wasn't asked the right question to say what has been needed to say but for the love of sport and Canelo wants to bring a good show for the people this Sept 16 which is the independence day of Mecico. Amazing how embarrassing could this be if Canelo loses the fight but Judges may really be on his side.

It's because the interviewer didn't asked the right answer or he just put GGG on the spot. So I don't think that he is not that confident is this fight, he is smiling and acknowledging the crowd but it was obvious a pro-Canelo. And that needed 8 lbs could bring something good in GGG, I think if he decided years ago to move to this division, he can do that. But obviously, he chooses a weight that he dominated for years and that is a good strategy for his career.

Yes, it could be he is put on the spot and the language barrier probably all he could say is "Come on guys".
But Do you think he is also worrying that this is all for the show for Mexican independence and this fight has to be won by their hero?

No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.







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September 15, 2022, 02:46:53 AM
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No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol.

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September 15, 2022, 02:51:25 AM
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No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol.

Yes, this could really be a war, both camps are saying that they don't want to have the judges influence the outcome of the fight. And then we are hearing predictions that either of this two wanted to score a KO/TKO to end their trilogy fight.
GGG expressed that he is thinking of retiring, so this might be one of his biggest fight wherein he wanted to end his career at least beating Canelo. On the other hand, Canelo looks very confident also, his fans cheering his name he wants to erase his lost to Bivol.

 
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September 15, 2022, 03:59:09 AM
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No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

I'm pretty sure GGG knows that, therefore, I believe that he will try his best to win by KO/TKO, that way judges' decision is not necessary anymore. It's gonna be a war, GGG trying to win this trilogy while Canelo will try to have an impressive win so people will forget about how he lost to Bivol.

Yes, this could really be a war, both camps are saying that they don't want to have the judges influence the outcome of the fight. And then we are hearing predictions that either of this two wanted to score a KO/TKO to end their trilogy fight.
GGG expressed that he is thinking of retiring, so this might be one of his biggest fight wherein he wanted to end his career at least beating Canelo. On the other hand, Canelo looks very confident also, his fans cheering his name he wants to erase his lost to Bivol.

Great, that would result in an entertaining fight because both are willing to give everything they have in this fight. GGG will surely give everything, it could be his last fight, and if he wins, that's another big success in his career in boxing. I think GGG or Canelo by KO win has an attractive odds.

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September 15, 2022, 04:09:34 AM
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
seems like the votes are also favoring to the obvious result and that is GGG will take over against  Canelo in this fight , will also putting my Bet for GGG because I have been watching and following his career for several years now and I know His capacity and also about how Canelo fight in hsi career that is not enough to take down GGG .

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September 15, 2022, 04:27:47 AM
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
seems like the votes are also favoring to the obvious result and that is GGG will take over against  Canelo in this fight , will also putting my Bet for GGG because I have been watching and following his career for several years now and I know His capacity and also about how Canelo fight in hsi career that is not enough to take down GGG .

Not enough taking down GGG? yes, maybe... however, if this fight will go to the scorecards, I think Canelo will again have the edge just like their previous fight. GGG is probably aiming for a KO here, the only question is, at his age, can he take down Canelo?

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September 15, 2022, 06:51:05 AM
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<<<at his age, can he take down Canelo?>>

We are going to find out, don't miss the fight this coming September 17.

Maybe my guess would be 10% he could take down Canelo, it's very tough considering his age, but there's still a slim chance.

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September 15, 2022, 07:49:08 AM
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<<<at his age, can he take down Canelo?>>

We are going to find out, don't miss the fight this coming September 17.

Maybe my guess would be 10% he could take down Canelo, it's very tough considering his age, but there's still a slim chance.

10% would be too small.

His odds stand at 4.90 now. That means that the sportsbooks estimate his chances at around 20%. Now we need to remember that the odds are getting skewed, because a lot of Hispanic fans within the United States are placing bets on Canelo. I would estimate his chances slightly higher, at around 25% to 30%. But need to admit that Canelo is the overwhelming favorite in this fight. Just two days remain.. and it is difficult to realize that the long wait is finally over. Have been waiting for this since 2018 September.

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<<<at his age, can he take down Canelo?>>

We are going to find out, don't miss the fight this coming September 17.

Maybe my guess would be 10% he could take down Canelo, it's very tough considering his age, but there's still a slim chance.

10% would be too small.

His odds stand at 4.90 now. That means that the sportsbooks estimate his chances at around 20%. Now we need to remember that the odds are getting skewed, because a lot of Hispanic fans within the United States are placing bets on Canelo. I would estimate his chances slightly higher, at around 25% to 30%. But need to admit that Canelo is the overwhelming favorite in this fight. Just two days remain.. and it is difficult to realize that the long wait is finally over. Have been waiting for this since 2018 September.

Gamblers are considering the fact that GGG is no longer in his prime.

Though his fighting chance is still there, from what I've seen in his last fight against Murata, he still has that power
punches that if ever he got that good opening from Canelo, he can still put him down.

We just need to wait and we will see how they will perform and who will be the winner. Bookies favorite in favor
of Canelo as always.
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<<<at his age, can he take down Canelo?>>

We are going to find out, don't miss the fight this coming September 17.

Maybe my guess would be 10% he could take down Canelo, it's very tough considering his age, but there's still a slim chance.

10% would be too small.

His odds stand at 4.90 now. That means that the sportsbooks estimate his chances at around 20%. Now we need to remember that the odds are getting skewed, because a lot of Hispanic fans within the United States are placing bets on Canelo. I would estimate his chances slightly higher, at around 25% to 30%. But need to admit that Canelo is the overwhelming favorite in this fight. Just two days remain.. and it is difficult to realize that the long wait is finally over. Have been waiting for this since 2018 September.

The betting odds headed to where I expected when this fight was announced. I mean, how can GGG be only 3x something when Donaire was 4x against Inoue? Both GGG and Donaire are old and their chances are knockouts or at least hurting their younger opponents to change the pace of their fights. Donaire was proven to be capable of hurting Inoue but GGG wasn't able to deal serious damage to Canelo for 24 rounds. So yes I am expecting GGG's odds to move to 4x more than Donaire's odds against Inoue.

But as a GGG fan, I am hoping for an upset. I want a miracle. Cheesy

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September 15, 2022, 10:36:57 AM
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Gamblers are considering the fact that GGG is no longer in his prime.

Though his fighting chance is still there, from what I've seen in his last fight against Murata, he still has that power
punches that if ever he got that good opening from Canelo, he can still put him down.

We just need to wait and we will see how they will perform and who will be the winner. Bookies favorite in favor
of Canelo as always.

Because this is the truth  Smiley.

If we based our speculations on GGG's last fight then I could say that he is past his prime because he was having troubles in the early rounds in dealing with the body shots of Murata who I could say is way below Canelo's boxing skills and even if GGG has the opening I doubt that he could knockout Canelo as the latter has a granite chin so no wonder most of the gamblers outside this forum are favoring Canelo to win.

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September 15, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

But it's not a massive jump in weight and he has a lot of days to go back naturally to SMW division. It's not like the case of Roy Jones who went as high as Heavyweight and then his weight swinging around 168-175 lbs. And that was the beginning of the downfall of Roy Jones. For Canelo, it's negligible, he is still in his prime and could be walking around that weight without draining himself or changing his diet.

Ok, it's just one factor that play in my head when I read that somewhere that a boxer performance could be affected when he jump in weight like Canelo did when he fought Bivol and then go down to 168 lbs.

Nevertheless, it's just a couple of pounds and nothing  to shabby with it. Maybe if he jumps as high as what him and his team are thinking with the Cruiserweight, then just maybe it might have a drastic effect on his health. And one thing that will go with him is the advancement of sports medicine and for sure he had someone in his team watching his weight.

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I see you discussing Canelo and GGG weight. What do you think about following: GGG has only one fight in super middleweight division against Murata. Before that, he has never been in that weight. On the other hand, Canelo already had 4 fights as a super middleweight and several fights as a light heavy. That might be an advantage for Canelo. And a disadvantage as well. As on a scales they both will be super middleweight, but at a day fight Canelo will be bigger, stronger, slower. Do you think that experience in fighting in a several lbs division is useful or worthless ?

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September 15, 2022, 11:43:13 AM
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To hype everyone up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niaQyq4iGo

Intense face off between the two, and it seems that both of them are ready for a war. It's going to be a great weekend match for everyone and for sure everyone's bet is already in. Noticed though that GGG seems to be not as weight drain, I mean yes he fought at 160 lbs most of his career and then he jumps to 168 lbs here, but you can see his face and his jaw is like round and full unlike those previous fights of his, just saying. So better invite your friends this weekend and watch the fight in PPV.
Thanks for the link.

As expected that there would be some slight physique change and i had noticed it too but its not that surprising considering that there's a slight bump on weight
but lets see if this one wont really be resulting into some sort of slow down.
Im already readying up for this upcoming weekend which would really be a good fight to look upon.Hope it wont disappoint.

GGG sounds not very confident or he wasn't asked the right question to say what has been needed to say but for the love of sport and Canelo wants to bring a good show for the people this Sept 16 which is the independence day of Mecico. Amazing how embarrassing could this be if Canelo loses the fight but Judges may really be on his side.

It's because the interviewer didn't asked the right answer or he just put GGG on the spot. So I don't think that he is not that confident is this fight, he is smiling and acknowledging the crowd but it was obvious a pro-Canelo. And that needed 8 lbs could bring something good in GGG, I think if he decided years ago to move to this division, he can do that. But obviously, he chooses a weight that he dominated for years and that is a good strategy for his career.

Yes, it could be he is put on the spot and the language barrier probably all he could say is "Come on guys".
But Do you think he is also worrying that this is all for the show for Mexican independence and this fight has to be won by their hero?

No matter how I would want to make it look like a fair fight, the judges will most likely be on Canelo's side again.

Yes, it's obvious that there is a language barrier for GGG, but in any case, he just expressed his appreciation to those who went and watch their face-off. I still remember Osar Dela Hoya being the face of Mexican boxing for many years and Sept is his fighting month, now it's Canelo Alvarez turn.

And Canelo is still a huge favorite, no surprises here, but hopefully GGG will give us a want we wanted to see. And I agree about the call to the judges to be fair just in case this fight is going to end in their hands.

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Yes, it's obvious that there is a language barrier for GGG, but in any case, he just expressed his appreciation to those who went and watch their face-off. I still remember Osar Dela Hoya being the face of Mexican boxing for many years and Sept is his fighting month, now it's Canelo Alvarez turn.
That's why it's necessary that Canelo will win this fight so he will continue to represent the Mexicans.

And Canelo is still a huge favorite, no surprises here, but hopefully GGG will give us a want we wanted to see. And I agree about the call to the judges to be fair just in case this fight is going to end in their hands.
The age gap and the standing are the basis why Canelo is still the favorite, also, he won the last fight so it's no surprise that he is listed as the favorite, what I'm surprised with is that he is a huge heavy favorite.
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And Canelo is still a huge favorite, no surprises here, but hopefully GGG will give us a want we wanted to see. And I agree about the call to the judges to be fair just in case this fight is going to end in their hands.

This could possibly be the last time they will meet in the ring, Golovkin already hint at retirement the worse thing that could happen is the fight will end where the decision will go to the judges and the result could go either way, The Boxing Commission should see to it that they let judges who are fair and with a good reputation to handle the fight so the result will be acceptable to the boxing community, but it's better than the fight ends in stoppage so the result is final and will not be debatable.

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Yes, it's obvious that there is a language barrier for GGG, but in any case, he just expressed his appreciation to those who went and watch their face-off. I still remember Osar Dela Hoya being the face of Mexican boxing for many years and Sept is his fighting month, now it's Canelo Alvarez turn.
That's why it's necessary that Canelo will win this fight so he will continue to represent the Mexicans.

And Canelo is still a huge favorite, no surprises here, but hopefully GGG will give us a want we wanted to see. And I agree about the call to the judges to be fair just in case this fight is going to end in their hands.
The age gap and the standing are the basis why Canelo is still the favorite, also, he won the last fight so it's no surprise that he is listed as the favorite, what I'm surprised with is that he is a huge heavy favorite.
He can continue to rep the Mexicans though even if he losses this fight. And he has a lot of fans around the world, not just Mexicans so again, he will have a lot of support same with Golovkin.

Yes, it's true that he is the favorite even if Bivol beat him is because of the age gap. Golovkin is 40 years old and there could be sign that he is already slowing down. On the other hand, Canelo at the peak of this career and they are fighting at this weight class.

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September 15, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
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I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.

I am not sure about which boxer enjoys a greater amount of support. I assume that within the United States (especially among the Hispanic population) Canelo enjoys a greater support. Among the global audience, Golovkin maybe ahead. The odds for Golovkin have remained the same for the last several months. This makes me wonder about his support level. Given how attractive the odds are, a lot of people would have placed a bet for him. But that is simply not happening. I guess fans are being held back due to concerns related to his age.

Or maybe Canelo's fans is also betting on him that's why there are no change in the odds. Regardless, there could be some that already bet already on GGG because of the great odds and they don't want to missed it.

But what we wanted to see is just the judges here being fair at least to GGG. Canelo might gain respect more if he wins and it was he was deserving, not just a home cook judge who is going to vote for Canelo just because he is the cash cow.

Well apart from the fact that this is something that only we fans can decide on a bet, the truth is that right now I don't know who to bet on, it's incredible, because I see both boxers at the same level, and that makes it difficult for me, for me I don't think so there is a lot of limitation in age, I think that an older boxer should be more careful than a young and rookie who has no idea of ??the trajectory of his opponent, or who simply does not care, for me these things are irrelevant, because I clearly evaluate the strategy and the capacity they have in strength and resistance, that is why I insist that hopefully this fight should not be decided by the judges, it would be something sad and at the same time annoying.



And Canelo is still a huge favorite, no surprises here, but hopefully GGG will give us a want we wanted to see. And I agree about the call to the judges to be fair just in case this fight is going to end in their hands.

This could possibly be the last time they will meet in the ring, Golovkin already hint at retirement the worse thing that could happen is the fight will end where the decision will go to the judges and the result could go either way, The Boxing Commission should see to it that they let judges who are fair and with a good reputation to handle the fight so the result will be acceptable to the boxing community, but it's better than the fight ends in stoppage so the result is final and will not be debatable.
For me, GGG has always been one of the most iconic boxers, I would not like him to retire, because there is the possibility that if he wins, they would look for more fights, and it is not a bad thing, quite the opposite, and GGG could be thinking that They are new opportunities for him, I am not in favor of a boxer serving less or losing talent when he gets older, I think this does not apply in boxing, because he has much more to offer, on the other hand, Canelo has many reasons why can win, the doors would be opening for him in everything again, and possibly as I have said before, a rematch against Bivol, I think this is his first objective.


Yes, it's obvious that there is a language barrier for GGG, but in any case, he just expressed his appreciation to those who went and watch their face-off. I still remember Osar Dela Hoya being the face of Mexican boxing for many years and Sept is his fighting month, now it's Canelo Alvarez turn.
That's why it's necessary that Canelo will win this fight so he will continue to represent the Mexicans.

And Canelo is still a huge favorite, no surprises here, but hopefully GGG will give us a want we wanted to see. And I agree about the call to the judges to be fair just in case this fight is going to end in their hands.
The age gap and the standing are the basis why Canelo is still the favorite, also, he won the last fight so it's no surprise that he is listed as the favorite, what I'm surprised with is that he is a huge heavy favorite.
He can continue to rep the Mexicans though even if he losses this fight. And he has a lot of fans around the world, not just Mexicans so again, he will have a lot of support same with Golovkin.

Yes, it's true that he is the favorite even if Bivol beat him is because of the age gap. Golovkin is 40 years old and there could be sign that he is already slowing down. On the other hand, Canelo at the peak of this career and they are fighting at this weight class.

Yes, in fact GGG has many opportunities to win, it is not a lie that at 40 years old some things can be slowed down like skills, but having a talent like him is difficult, if we look at the hero of the Mexicans, yes, in fact it is a very good representation, I don't know if you remember the singer, a Mexican boxer who is also a singer, he was also a great promise in the featherweight, he is very good, but now Canelo has a pending ditch with Bivol, the fight against GGG is important but I say that the rematch he has against Bivol is much more relevant, because the Mexican did not look very good, so he has to clean his name.

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