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September 05, 2022, 11:25:26 PM
 #981

We do know that each boxer does have different styles on selling up their fights which is commonly on trash talking but i do see some do just keep quiet and let their fists do the talking which i do see or something that i do recommend.

In fairness to Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin, they are not the type of boxers that usually do trash talks as part of promoting the fight.

Their respective "NAME" is just enough to attract people to pay for the tickets to witness them fighting at the ring.

That kind of recognition is not that easy to achieve but these 2 future boxing legends able to build their legacy to a top level.

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September 05, 2022, 11:46:30 PM
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We do know that each boxer does have different styles on selling up their fights which is commonly on trash talking but i do see some do just keep quiet and let their fists do the talking which i do see or something that i do recommend.

In fairness to Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin, they are not the type of boxers that usually do trash talks as part of promoting the fight.

Their respective "NAME" is just enough to attract people to pay for the tickets to witness them fighting at the ring.

That kind of recognition is not that easy to achieve but these 2 future boxing legends able to build their legacy to a top level.
Yes, we are all aware of that unlike into those other famous boxers who do really talk shit or even into those lower division who do keeps talking and somewhat comes to a point
that its already irritating but its true that unlike these two where we know that these fighters arent really that tactful before the fight.
They've earned that popularity and respect of the fans with their own ways and behavior which is something that we do prefer.

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September 05, 2022, 11:53:23 PM
 #983

We do know that each boxer does have different styles on selling up their fights which is commonly on trash talking but i do see some do just keep quiet and let their fists do the talking which i do see or something that i do recommend.

In fairness to Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin, they are not the type of boxers that usually do trash talks as part of promoting the fight.

Their respective "NAME" is just enough to attract people to pay for the tickets to witness them fighting at the ring.

That kind of recognition is not that easy to achieve but these 2 future boxing legends able to build their legacy to a top level.
Yes, we are all aware of that unlike into those other famous boxers who do really talk shit or even into those lower division who do keeps talking and somewhat comes to a point
that its already irritating but its true that unlike these two where we know that these fighters arent really that tactful before the fight.
They've earned that popularity and respect of the fans with their own ways and behavior which is something that we do prefer.

indeed, these 2 boxers don't need to trash talk to sell their tickets. they already gained their popularity and reputation in the boxing community. they just need to promote their match just like the regular promotion. we are excited for this match because it may be the last hurrah for GGG, whereas, we will witness what's for him for canelo on this one. a lot of boxing fans felt cheated when GGG lost to canelo. so can we see a clear winner this time around?

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September 05, 2022, 11:58:18 PM
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So we are just few weeks before this fight happens and lets see if Canelo's fans wont be disappointed or into those GGG fans. Cool

Time flies so fast. I didn't realize that it was only about a matter of over a week and we will now witness this fight.

Excited here to watch the fight live. Let's get this on!

More importantly, want to see GGG beating the crap of Canelo to end their chapter.
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September 06, 2022, 01:08:47 AM
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So we are just few weeks before this fight happens and lets see if Canelo's fans wont be disappointed or into those GGG fans. Cool

Time flies so fast. I didn't realize that it was only about a matter of over a week and we will now witness this fight.

Excited here to watch the fight live. Let's get this on!

More importantly, want to see GGG beating the crap of Canelo to end their chapter.

Everyone is really excited to have this fight finally happening after so much delays on Canelo's side because he thinks he won the fight with GGG already.

But boxing fans think otherwise, first fight should be GGG and the second one, it could go either side. And majority of us knows that GGG has been robbed so he will be our sentimental favorite in this fight and hopefully if it goes down to the judges again, GGG will be treated fair specially if it's a clear win for him.

 
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September 06, 2022, 02:16:35 AM
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Everyone is really excited to have this fight finally happening after so much delays on Canelo's side because he thinks he won the fight with GGG already.

But boxing fans think otherwise, first fight should be GGG and the second one, it could go either side. And majority of us knows that GGG has been robbed so he will be our sentimental favorite in this fight and hopefully if it goes down to the judges again, GGG will be treated fair specially if it's a clear win for him.

I was watching the second fight live, and at the same time I was following the scorecards from various channels such as NBC Sports. None of these channels had Canelo ahead when the 12th round ended. But I agree that the second one was close, unlike the one-sided first fight (where Golovkin just destroyed Canelo). Unfortunately in sports such as gymnastics, boxing.etc, we are still dependent on manual scoring. And when humans do the scoring instead of machines, it always give raise to arguments of bias.

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September 06, 2022, 01:50:23 PM
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Everyone is really excited to have this fight finally happening after so much delays on Canelo's side because he thinks he won the fight with GGG already.

But boxing fans think otherwise, first fight should be GGG and the second one, it could go either side. And majority of us knows that GGG has been robbed so he will be our sentimental favorite in this fight and hopefully if it goes down to the judges again, GGG will be treated fair specially if it's a clear win for him.

I was watching the second fight live, and at the same time I was following the scorecards from various channels such as NBC Sports. None of these channels had Canelo ahead when the 12th round ended. But I agree that the second one was close, unlike the one-sided first fight (where Golovkin just destroyed Canelo). Unfortunately in sports such as gymnastics, boxing.etc, we are still dependent on manual scoring. And when humans do the scoring instead of machines, it always give raise to arguments of bias.

Way back, the influence of social media is not that much unlike now that if there's a robbed that may take place, the noise around social media can influence the judges and the organizations decision. It can be changed or reverse or maybe can be void declaring that no one wins because of any questionable score cards.

Better to win with a huge margin or, if possible, to KO their opponents, so no questionable declaration of the winner.

Getting close, less than 2 weeks and we will see them back inside the ring.

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Everyone is really excited to have this fight finally happening after so much delays on Canelo's side because he thinks he won the fight with GGG already.

But boxing fans think otherwise, first fight should be GGG and the second one, it could go either side. And majority of us knows that GGG has been robbed so he will be our sentimental favorite in this fight and hopefully if it goes down to the judges again, GGG will be treated fair specially if it's a clear win for him.

I was watching the second fight live, and at the same time I was following the scorecards from various channels such as NBC Sports. None of these channels had Canelo ahead when the 12th round ended. But I agree that the second one was close, unlike the one-sided first fight (where Golovkin just destroyed Canelo). Unfortunately in sports such as gymnastics, boxing.etc, we are still dependent on manual scoring. And when humans do the scoring instead of machines, it always give raise to arguments of bias.
Can we expect on future years to come on having machine scoring on some sport? It might be that accurate? There are angles which might cant be seen by machines but can be seen by human awareness and observation thats why manual scoring would really be still preferred but since machine scoring isnt available yet then lets see if ever this one pushed through but its true that speaking about possible
bias decisions then it could happen but these judges wont really make themselves easily get caught nor too that obvious.

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Can we expect on future years to come on having machine scoring on some sport? It might be that accurate? There are angles which might cant be seen by machines but can be seen by human awareness and observation thats why manual scoring would really be still preferred but since machine scoring isnt available yet then lets see if ever this one pushed through but its true that speaking about possible
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I made a post on this, a few weeks ago. Several techniques are available for mechanical scoring. But the problem is that none of the boxing organizations (WBO, IBF.etc) have approved them. They are still in the initial stages of development, and although they have been tested on various amateur competitions, I don't expect mechanical scoring to be implemented anytime soon on major tournaments. Anyway, just 10 days to go.. the 4-year wait is finally coming to an end. And hopefully, this time we will have a clear winner and things will be settled once and forever.   

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September 07, 2022, 04:29:17 AM
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most people have more appreciation for GGG, I don't know if maybe he as a person has more charisma, something they like and want to see him succeed,
Maybe one of the reason why many people are rooting for GGG  is the fact that in this fight he doesnt have a win yet. Thus fans are looking forward for him to take down Canelo especially his previous fights (before this) are a victory for him, its like he redeem himself after his loss.

but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years.
Yes, I think they can put on a good show, and on Canelo's side I think he is a boxer who can't stop winning, whatever he wants to win, sometimes I think Canelo wants to go in looking for a knockout, it sounds crazy , but everything is possible, for me this boxer is saving something, I don't know how his training will be, to be with GGG He has to be hitting him very hard and the fact of fighting against GGG is not easy at all, the boxer has good experience, I know that most of you have been waiting for this fight, and I know that when I am there in the middle of the fight the stakes will be very high, you could say that they will be a great number, the number that I see that is greater is in money for the bets..

Can we expect on future years to come on having machine scoring on some sport? It might be that accurate? There are angles which might cant be seen by machines but can be seen by human awareness and observation thats why manual scoring would really be still preferred but since machine scoring isnt available yet then lets see if ever this one pushed through but its true that speaking about possible
bias decisions then it could happen but these judges wont really make themselves easily get caught nor too that obvious.

I made a post on this, a few weeks ago. Several techniques are available for mechanical scoring. But the problem is that none of the boxing organizations (WBO, IBF.etc) have approved them. They are still in the initial stages of development, and although they have been tested on various amateur competitions, I don't expect mechanical scoring to be implemented anytime soon on major tournaments. Anyway, just 10 days to go.. the 4-year wait is finally coming to an end. And hopefully, this time we will have a clear winner and things will be settled once and forever.   

I think that all this has to do with the clear disagreement that there is with the decisions of the judges, and if it is a fact that it can be done, only that this would be a series of sensors and it seems to me that the boxers would have to accept such things, for In general, we have had unpleasant experiences with the refereeing and technical decisions of the judges in any sport, but more so in boxing, from an Olympics to a professional fight, and we have clear examples that everyone here remembers, the past Olympics with the Japanese and the clear fight that was won by Mayweather with Pacquiao that was Mayweather running around the ring.

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Can we expect on future years to come on having machine scoring on some sport? It might be that accurate? There are angles which might cant be seen by machines but can be seen by human awareness and observation thats why manual scoring would really be still preferred but since machine scoring isnt available yet then lets see if ever this one pushed through but its true that speaking about possible
bias decisions then it could happen but these judges wont really make themselves easily get caught nor too that obvious.

I made a post on this, a few weeks ago. Several techniques are available for mechanical scoring. But the problem is that none of the boxing organizations (WBO, IBF.etc) have approved them. They are still in the initial stages of development, and although they have been tested on various amateur competitions, I don't expect mechanical scoring to be implemented anytime soon on major tournaments. Anyway, just 10 days to go.. the 4-year wait is finally coming to an end. And hopefully, this time we will have a clear winner and things will be settled once and forever.   

Mechanical scoring might not be suitable for professional boxing especially in the highest competition.
Usually, when a boxing match is very close and the score cards are very close, it would create a minor controversy right after the end of the match. Can't blame the judges though as they are watching the match live and they need to decide on that point of view. Replay of the video would determine who really wins.
Except for those clearly biased judging, that will make a huge controversy.. Like the Pacquiao and Horn fight.

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Can we expect on future years to come on having machine scoring on some sport? It might be that accurate? There are angles which might cant be seen by machines but can be seen by human awareness and observation thats why manual scoring would really be still preferred but since machine scoring isnt available yet then lets see if ever this one pushed through but its true that speaking about possible
bias decisions then it could happen but these judges wont really make themselves easily get caught nor too that obvious.

I made a post on this, a few weeks ago. Several techniques are available for mechanical scoring. But the problem is that none of the boxing organizations (WBO, IBF.etc) have approved them. They are still in the initial stages of development, and although they have been tested on various amateur competitions, I don't expect mechanical scoring to be implemented anytime soon on major tournaments. Anyway, just 10 days to go.. the 4-year wait is finally coming to an end. And hopefully, this time we will have a clear winner and things will be settled once and forever.   

Mechanical scoring might not be suitable for professional boxing especially in the highest competition.
Usually, when a boxing match is very close and the score cards are very close, it would create a minor controversy right after the end of the match. Can't blame the judges though as they are watching the match live and they need to decide on that point of view. Replay of the video would determine who really wins.
Except for those clearly biased judging, that will make a huge controversy.. Like the Pacquiao and Horn fight.

So boxing judges boxing obsolete with mechanical scoring? Nevertheless, I think the governing bodies will not allow this kind of judging. For sure they could have vested interest on having judges score the actual fight.

But yeah, just a couple more days to go before this finally landed, everyone is anticipating that they will just continue what they left off in the 2 fights that the had, round 25 in this trilogy starts.

 
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But yeah, just a couple more days to go before this finally landed, everyone is anticipating that they will just continue what they left off in the 2 fights that the had, round 25 in this trilogy starts.

I know everyone is patiently waiting for this one, it's going to be another great fight for sure, just like the last two fights, it's not boring, and since it could be the last fight, this trilogy will surely end up leaving people entertained after the fight. The question now is, who will win the battle, the majority think Canelo will win, but I think GGG really has a shot here, the underdog is gonna win, my guess.

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But yeah, just a couple more days to go before this finally landed, everyone is anticipating that they will just continue what they left off in the 2 fights that the had, round 25 in this trilogy starts.

I know everyone is patiently waiting for this one, it's going to be another great fight for sure, just like the last two fights, it's not boring, and since it could be the last fight, this trilogy will surely end up leaving people entertained after the fight. The question now is, who will win the battle, the majority think Canelo will win, but I think GGG really has a shot here, the underdog is gonna win, my guess.

Check the votes in the poll, majority thinks that GGG will win in this fight.

Maybe you are talking about the sports bookies odds, yeah, they have Canelo as the favorite just like in the first 2 fights. Nevertheless, boxing fans here like you wanted to see that this 3rd fight will be in GGG greatest performance, enough for him to secure a win in the judges card, and please no controversies, we already have that in the first 2 fights.

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But yeah, just a couple more days to go before this finally landed, everyone is anticipating that they will just continue what they left off in the 2 fights that the had, round 25 in this trilogy starts.

I know everyone is patiently waiting for this one, it's going to be another great fight for sure, just like the last two fights, it's not boring, and since it could be the last fight, this trilogy will surely end up leaving people entertained after the fight. The question now is, who will win the battle, the majority think Canelo will win, but I think GGG really has a shot here, the underdog is gonna win, my guess.

Check the votes in the poll, majority thinks that GGG will win in this fight.

Maybe you are talking about the sports bookies odds, yeah, they have Canelo as the favorite just like in the first 2 fights. Nevertheless, boxing fans here like you wanted to see that this 3rd fight will be in GGG greatest performance, enough for him to secure a win in the judges card, and please no controversies, we already have that in the first 2 fights.

I guess he is talking about the bookies odds as we all know that Canelo is a heavy favorite.

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Now though Canelo is a firm -390 favorite (bet $390 to win $100) with FanDuel to beat GGG again, while Golovkin is a +290 underdog (bet $100 to win $290).

It has not change, the odds are still the same. Well, hopefully we are right here as personally I like to see GGG taking a revenge by a big win.
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GGG does not have to mind the trash-talk, he needs to focus on this fight and prove to the world that he can beat Canelo. Imagine if GGG will win here, that would give Canelo 2 losses in a row and will result in reducing his popularity. People will also remember that GGG is the better fighter between the two, so I understand why GGG is silent, it only says he will do the talking in the ring.

GGG is always silent and never we saw him badmouthing his opponent. Him being humble just want to prove his strength in the actual fight and not by words. GGG is also not the type of boxer that will return dirty talk. He will rather be silent about it and just wait for the result on the day of the fight.

Canelo on the other hand already put some heated arguments against GGG but still, the latter just remained silent and calm.

And that's the best thing about Golovkin, he ain't the type of boxer who does some issues or sick argument just to sell a fight. He was humble since he started his career in the boxing industry and made a name without scratching someone's back or stepping on someone, all Golovkin wanted is to show the whole industry what he made of and just like to do the talk.

For Canelo, it's fine for him to talk big and everything like that because he can also prove what he is saying inside the ring. It's just that Canelo knew some time ago that without the help of the judges, he now has 3 losses in his career that's why he is trying to take a fight into Golovkin's head to mess the latter's strategy.

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This fight does not need trash talk to hype it, it was the fans who requested to see it and here it is, so I can say that it's going to be a sold-out fight and the fans will be entertained watching this. Canelo is the winner in the previous match but anything can happen here, GGG could win here and maybe retire to give Canelo a lesson that trash talking is bad.

Canelo just hates GGG for backstabbing him in the past now this is his time to take revenge, there's really no need to thrash talking show off on this fight, they are not meeting for the first time this is their third match its time for both fighters to show respect, GGG is doing that he is more concentrated on the fight while Canelo is not, he is thrash talking GGG he seldom does that to his opponents, I think GGG is getting in his head and he is aware that he badly needs to win this fight, to climb to the all-time greats again.

Whatever his reason, it doesn't look good on him because we idolized Canelo and we know he is not a trashtalker. Thing is, if he gets trashtalked, he is easily affected, so that's not good because it will lose his concentration in the fight, and I'm afraid this time the judges won't be able to save him.

Come on, let us not be sensitive here, this is boxing, it's entertainment and therefore trash talking is just normal. It's something that will add spices on the fight and so that people will keep talking, and as a result, they'll be able to sell more tickets for more profits, simple as that.

That's why Canelo should know better that a trashtalk is just normal to hear prior the fights and GGG is just trying to mess up Canelo's mind, to think, Canelo has been a lot sensitive recently especially when he is not seeing or getting what he is preparing for and he need to control that because that could mess his strategies big time.

I know that there's a lot of pressure building on his shoulders because of the upset he experienced recently and then there's this pressure to win this trilogy because this is his ticket against Bivol in a rematch. If Canelo will be sensitive again in this fight because GGG has been rooted to win more by the fans then I really think that the judges cannot help him this time around.

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September 08, 2022, 02:57:53 AM
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9 days remaining for the match. I have noticed that odds have become slightly more favorable towards Golovkin. For him, previously it was in the range of +330 to +350, but now I am seeing odds of +280 to +290. Still I believe that he is under-rated in this fight. I have made a bet in favor of Golovkin, but only for a small amount. Heart still says that Golovkin will win somehow, but if I think realistically, then I don't see a path for him to win. He needs a KO given the bias from judges. And KO against Canelo looks near impossible, given the age of GGG.

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September 08, 2022, 03:38:54 AM
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We do know that each boxer does have different styles on selling up their fights which is commonly on trash talking but i do see some do just keep quiet and let their fists do the talking which i do see or something that i do recommend.

In fairness to Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin, they are not the type of boxers that usually do trash talks as part of promoting the fight.

Their respective "NAME" is just enough to attract people to pay for the tickets to witness them fighting at the ring.

That kind of recognition is not that easy to achieve but these 2 future boxing legends able to build their legacy to a top level.

They might not be trash talking at each other, however, Canelo and GGG very much hate each other hehe. It began during their rematch when Canelo was caught using a banned chemical in boxing which is a steroid and which also can improve performance of athletes. GGG talked about this in press conferences and Canelo did not like this. Ever since the rematch, they have hated each other. See the latest conferences for this fight. Canelo was telling the media that GGG is an asshole. GGG was only quiet, however, in some articles it was mentioned that GGG said that Canelo's behavoir in the press conference might be the side effects of steroids heheheheh.

@Sithara007. Realistically Canelo can knockout this old version of GGG through body punches, I reckon. However, GGG is not be very easy to knockout. He has not been knockout in his whole career.

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That's why Canelo should know better that a trashtalk is just normal to hear prior the fights and GGG is just trying to mess up Canelo's mind, to think, Canelo has been a lot sensitive recently especially when he is not seeing or getting what he is preparing for and he need to control that because that could mess his strategies big time.

I'm not sure but it was Canelo who throws that trash talk saying that he will end GGG's career after this fight. It was not GGG who was focusing on this chance. It's been a long delayed rematch and I'm sure fans are everywhere, with or without the trash talk's support, will be there for this fight. Though it's added, more talks about both fighters and engagements with fans and readers will also add up for potential sales in tickets and on any gambling platforms.

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I know that there's a lot of pressure building on his shoulders because of the upset he experienced recently and then there's this pressure to win this trilogy because this is his ticket against Bivol in a rematch. If Canelo will be sensitive again in this fight because GGG has been rooted to win more by the fans then I really think that the judges cannot help him this time around.

It is indeed a ticket for his rematch if ever he will decide to move up for another try, Bivol though got his own upcoming fight and we don't know what will happen, though personally I can say that with his amazing skills he can win that fight, we witness his quickness and good counter each time Canelo attempts to box him.

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