The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy

[Argoo]

My time to interfere: I will provide everything you ask, after you will explain (preferably with some real proof) why as a citizen of Ukraine you are still posting on this forum instead of fighting for you Motherland in the trenches in Donbas?

Are you fighting and post the comments from the front-line?
Which you should, as you brought up that request. 

No, I should not. I'm not Russian. I'm not Ukrainian either. So why should I take part in this conflict? It's the same as me asking you (or any random person on Bitcointalk): why are you not fighting in Ukraine? 

Why should Ukrainian citizens explain to you whether they are currently fighting against an enemy that has attacked their country or not? Moreover, should they provide you with any evidence on this matter? Who are you collecting such information for? Do you by any chance work for the Russian FSB? And you certainly cannot be called an outsider, observing the war in Ukraine from the sidelines.

[serveria.com]

Oh again the lone clown show with the methodology from the Kremlin 
Haven't heard your stupid throw-ins in a long time

I answer - from the beginning of 2022 to the end of 2022, I served in Zaporozhye direction in one of the brigades formed from the territorial defense, after the wounding I was demobilized. And you know it very well, because I have already told you about it many times, but you are like a parrot with the memory of a guppie fish, every time you try to throw this “question” again and again . Now I help to provide the liberation units of the AFU with means to destroy the brown plague of Rashism. I answered your question EVERY SINGLE time.
Well, now I let you answer my question, if the one to whom I asked it, expectedly can not answer it .
Let's hear your next attempt to present your morbid marasmus of Kremlin propaganda as “truth” ! I let you, I look forward to this funny show !

PS Just don't forget - links to lying Kremlin MPIs are not a source of evidence. References to Ukrainian legislative base, to official resources, if you don't have such - just admit that you are a pathetic translator of Kremlin propaganda and you have no other sources of “information” except for it.

PS more than sure that in response will not be cited a single official document, but will be again a bunch of lies and fakes from the Kremlin media and their underlings, but not a single fact. However - it has always been like that with you

My little retarded friend, do you really think somebody here will buy this bullshit?

It's common knowledge that Ukrainian forces typically follow a process of medical treatment and rehabilitation before deciding on demobilization (complete discharge from service). Many wounded soldiers receive treatment and, if fit, return to service in non-combat roles rather than being immediately discharged.
If the person was seriously wounded, it raises the question: Why did they not return to serve in some capacity, such as training or logistics, instead of being completely demobilized?

You can find tons of stories about barely alive soldiers, even with amputated limbs being thrown back into the meat grinder. So what was your injury? You scratched your pinky finger? 

[Argoo]

The possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine as peacekeeping forces is currently being discussed in Europe. Great Britain is ready to send at least 10,000 of its troops to Ukraine, and France, Germany, and a number of other countries are also ready to introduce their troops, placing them in Kyiv, Lvov, and Odessa. In the event of a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, these forces should deter Russia from a new invasion.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180072.html

https://glavred.info/war/skolko-mirotvorcev-strany-soyuzniki-napravyat-v-ukrainu-starmer-nazval-cifry-10647746.html

You understand it yourself that it's not going to happen. NATO troops located on Ukrainian soil will make them legitimate targets for Russian forces. Which can potentially lead to WW3 and Russia nuking European capitals London, Paris etc. And please stop quoting UA propaganda media outlets.

More than 30 countries, including NATO countries France and Great Britain, have agreed to deploy their troops on the territory of Ukraine after the conclusion of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia.
https://www.dw.com/ru/london-bolee-30-stran-gotovy-k-ucastiu-v-mirotvorceskoj-missii-v-ukraine/a-71956228

Currently, specific conditions and locations for the deployment of foreign troops in Ukraine are being discussed, and issues of responding to possible provocations and shelling of Ukrainian territory by Russia are being worked out. It is assumed that they will have the right to use weapons in the event of Russia violating the terms of the ceasefire.

At the same time, Ukraine's allies are considering sending two peacekeeping missions to Ukraine at once if a sustainable ceasefire is achieved between Kiev and Moscow. We are talking about the UN mission and the mission of the "Coalition of the Willing".

The UN peacekeeping force will consist of military personnel from India, Brazil, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. They will be deployed on the Russian-Ukrainian border.

The military from the European "Coalition of the Willing" will control the borders between Ukraine and the EU. These could be soldiers from Great Britain, France, Germany, Canada and Italy.

The Italian La Stampa writes that one of the scenarios for deploying troops, which the "Coalition of the Willing" is working on, is to create four levels of interaction.
It is assumed that UN peacekeepers from non-European countries will be deployed in the demilitarized zone to monitor compliance with the ceasefire. This will be the first line of demarcation. Ukrainian troops will be on the second line. On the third line - a contingent of volunteers and not necessarily within Ukrainian territory. The fourth line is American protection.

https://24tv.ua/geopolitics/ru/mirotvorcy-ukraine-budut-sostojat-iz-sil-oon-koalicii-zhelajushhih_n2781967

[Synchronice]

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By the way, this bloodshed will not stop easily. Russia demands from Ukraine to give up on its large part of territories, never join NATO and Putin will also probably demand from Ukraine to not join EU. I think it's clear now that this war is not only about I'm afraid of NATO near my boarders, Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union.

If a criminal and maniac create conditions for the realization of his complexes - he will not rest, and will continue. If obligations and laws are not fulfilled - the criminal takes advantage of it! In 2014, everyone “forgot” about the Budapest Memorandum. When Rashism will come to Europe - everyone will suddenly remember about the 5th article of NATO .... But it will be too late - the world will have already shown the terrorist and maniac that treaties and promises are worthless.... But war and destruction will already be in the homes of Europeans ... So there will be Taiwan and other countries that counted on security treaties. And the reason is banal - terrorists don't look at laws, rights, duties.....
Believe me - if Ukraine falls, then there will be Baltic States and Poland, which Putin hates to the teeth - because they are not afraid to speak and show the truth about Rashism and Kremlin's crazy Fuhrer. Plus they remember the bloody crimes of the USSR against their countries and peoples, they remember who started the second world war together with Hitler. Then they destroyed Nazism, but did not destroy Rashism and let it germinate. Remember history, the conclusions are simple - either the cancerous tumor of Rashism will be destroyed, or the cancer will destroy the world, as Nazism almost did in the 40s of the last century.

I wonder how long will these crazy people live. Putin is 72 years old but he might live for the next 4, 8 or I don't know how many years. I also wonder how people like him go to sleep. Do they sleep naturally or do they take prescription grade sleep medicines?

I feel like the NATO is falling. The USA doesn't want to protect Europe, so EU either really unites and focuses on its own military or it falls down and every country will protect themselves from others, which I think is not a good idea.

The problem with Russia is that normal methods don't work on them. Russian GRU does an excellent job in brainwashing of their population and sadly, their brainwashing also works on lots of foreigners, thanks to the internet and stupidity of people.

The USA, probably a few countries from Europe and others, have an imperialistic ambitions, that's inevitable when you are strong and have nothing to do but [eople don't understand one thing about Russia. Russia has an imperialistic ambitions but the key difference between Russia and a few other successful countries is that Russia is not developed itself. If Russia conquers you, what benefit will it bring? Nothing. Singapure and Hong Kong are good examples of how even conquerors matter.

I do not support any type of war or influence of another country over others but I simply want to say that Russia is not a good guy here too. It's not really like Russia got offended when Ukraine decided to join NATO, Russia simply doesn't want to lose Ukraine because it wants to rebuild the Soviet Union.

EU should heavily invest in tech and renewable energy, in science and education and then EU countries will be a heavenly good place to live.

Good luck with that as long as US regime exists. Because they'll not allow any country to really grow since they count it as a threat (China is the best example!). And for the foreseeable future the orders coming down from Washington is to redirect all those investments into military to continue the proxy war with Russia...

That's true!

[DrBeer]

Oh again the lone clown show with the methodology from the Kremlin  
Haven't heard your stupid throw-ins in a long time

I answer - from the beginning of 2022 to the end of 2022, I served in Zaporozhye direction in one of the brigades formed from the territorial defense, after the wounding I was demobilized. And you know it very well, because I have already told you about it many times, but you are like a parrot with the memory of a guppie fish, every time you try to throw this “question” again and again . Now I help to provide the liberation units of the AFU with means to destroy the brown plague of Rashism. I answered your question EVERY SINGLE time.
Well, now I let you answer my question, if the one to whom I asked it, expectedly can not answer it .
Let's hear your next attempt to present your morbid marasmus of Kremlin propaganda as “truth” ! I let you, I look forward to this funny show !

PS Just don't forget - links to lying Kremlin MPIs are not a source of evidence. References to Ukrainian legislative base, to official resources, if you don't have such - just admit that you are a pathetic translator of Kremlin propaganda and you have no other sources of “information” except for it.

PS more than sure that in response will not be cited a single official document, but will be again a bunch of lies and fakes from the Kremlin media and their underlings, but not a single fact. However - it has always been like that with you

My little retarded friend, do you really think somebody here will buy this bullshit?

It's common knowledge that Ukrainian forces typically follow a process of medical treatment and rehabilitation before deciding on demobilization (complete discharge from service). Many wounded soldiers receive treatment and, if fit, return to service in non-combat roles rather than being immediately discharged.
If the person was seriously wounded, it raises the question: Why did they not return to serve in some capacity, such as training or logistics, instead of being completely demobilized?

You can find tons of stories about barely alive soldiers, even with amputated limbs being thrown back into the meat grinder. So what was your injury? You scratched your pinky finger?  

My prediction about mental shit coming from you came true!
My prediction that there will not be any reasoned, OBEDIENT answer from you - came true!
The role of a pathetic clown suits you and you play it well!  
Your pathetic attempts to cling to words - show only your pathetic soul and cowardice to answer honestly
I allow you, because of your mental impotence and stupidity, to continue spewing primitive informational crap, because it is stupid to expect anything else from you!
Question - what is the name of this mental aberration of yours ? Is it when you open your mouth, spew out something expectedly idiotic, as a result of which, in front of everyone, once again, you get your face dipped in the shit of your own stupidity and primitive lies, and you smile with joy ! ?   

[pooya87]

I wonder how long will these crazy people live. Putin is 72 years old but he might live for the next 4, 8 or I don't know how many years. I also wonder how people like him go to sleep. Do they sleep naturally or do they take prescription grade sleep medicines?

Apart from a handful of people in history, power has corrupted everyone else. The funniest case these days is happening in the NATO member called Turkey which is being mostly censored by the mainstream media. A 71-year old dictator wannabe Erdogan who has been desperately clinging to power ever since he became president of Turkey back in 2014!!! That's about 11 years and he still wants to remain in power by changing the constitution and he just arrested his biggest opponent who would have won the next election which is the reason for the massive across this NATO member state these days

[Minor Miner]

The possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine as peacekeeping forces is currently being discussed in Europe. Great Britain is ready to send at least 10,000 of its troops to Ukraine, and France, Germany, and a number of other countries are also ready to introduce their troops, placing them in Kyiv, Lvov, and Odessa. In the event of a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, these forces should deter Russia from a new invasion.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180072.html

https://glavred.info/war/skolko-mirotvorcev-strany-soyuzniki-napravyat-v-ukrainu-starmer-nazval-cifry-10647746.html

You understand it yourself that it's not going to happen. NATO troops located on Ukrainian soil will make them legitimate targets for Russian forces. Which can potentially lead to WW3 and Russia nuking European capitals London, Paris etc. And please stop quoting UA propaganda media outlets.

More than 30 countries, including NATO countries France and Great Britain, have agreed to deploy their troops on the territory of Ukraine after the conclusion of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia.
https://www.dw.com/ru/london-bolee-30-stran-gotovy-k-ucastiu-v-mirotvorceskoj-missii-v-ukraine/a-71956228

Currently, specific conditions and locations for the deployment of foreign troops in Ukraine are being discussed, and issues of responding to possible provocations and shelling of Ukrainian territory by Russia are being worked out. It is assumed that they will have the right to use weapons in the event of Russia violating the terms of the ceasefire.

At the same time, Ukraine's allies are considering sending two peacekeeping missions to Ukraine at once if a sustainable ceasefire is achieved between Kiev and Moscow. We are talking about the UN mission and the mission of the "Coalition of the Willing".

The UN peacekeeping force will consist of military personnel from India, Brazil, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. They will be deployed on the Russian-Ukrainian border.

The military from the European "Coalition of the Willing" will control the borders between Ukraine and the EU. These could be soldiers from Great Britain, France, Germany, Canada and Italy.

The Italian La Stampa writes that one of the scenarios for deploying troops, which the "Coalition of the Willing" is working on, is to create four levels of interaction.
It is assumed that UN peacekeepers from non-European countries will be deployed in the demilitarized zone to monitor compliance with the ceasefire. This will be the first line of demarcation. Ukrainian troops will be on the second line. On the third line - a contingent of volunteers and not necessarily within Ukrainian territory. The fourth line is American protection.

https://24tv.ua/geopolitics/ru/mirotvorcy-ukraine-budut-sostojat-iz-sil-oon-koalicii-zhelajushhih_n2781967

Deploying NATO or UN troops on Ukrainian territory would not be easy. This would depend on the terms of the peace treaty and as far as I know, Russia is against this idea, they would never accept a peace treaty that included this condition. France, England, Germany...want to do it but that doesn't mean they can do it because they don't have the authority to decide that.

Like before, Britain made a bold statement and was ready to send troops to Ukraine, but later, British Armed Forces Minister Luke Pollard corrected that: they would only do so with the support and participation of the United States. If the United States refuses and does not participate, it will never happen.


https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-wont-deploy-troops-ukraine-without-us-support-says-minister-luke-pollard/

[Argoo]

Deploying NATO or UN troops on Ukrainian territory would not be easy. This would depend on the terms of the peace treaty and as far as I know, Russia is against this idea, they would never accept a peace treaty that included this condition. France, England, Germany...want to do it but that doesn't mean they can do it because they don't have the authority to decide that.

The issue of sending European soldiers to Ukraine will be discussed by EU countries directly with Kiev, and not with an eye on Moscow's opinion on this issue. This follows from the statements made by French President Macron during his conversation with the media on Saturday, March 15.
"Ukraine is sovereign. If it asks to deploy allied troops on its territory, whether to accept it or not is none of Russia's business," Macron said.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180268.html

Russia is currently in a very difficult situation. It is running out of armored vehicles and artillery. The Russian military admits that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have an advantage in drones, which destroy Russian tanks and armored vehicles even before they reach the attack line. Therefore, in some significant areas of the front, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have noted the absence of armored vehicles during assault operations since last year. There are a lot of people in Russia, but they also tend to run out. The irretrievable losses of Russian soldiers on the Ukrainian front have already exceeded 900,000 and this number continues to grow.

At the same time, Putin cannot refuse to continue the war, since the Russian economy has long been rebuilt on a war footing, and a return to a peaceful economy already threatens riots in Russia itself, when the military begins to return home, where the economy and key industries are on the brink of collapse.

[Synchronice]

That's about 11 years and he still wants to remain in power by changing the constitution and he just arrested his biggest opponent who would have won the next election which is the reason for the massive across this NATO member state these days

Constitution is losing its power and value, or perhaps it has lots a long time ago. If it's possible to change constitution at any time you wish and how you wish, then what's the point of the constitution? Putin changed constitution the way he wanted, the package of constitutional changes included an amendment allowing him to run again for the presidency in 2024 and he can do it again in 2030 and stay still 2036. The president of Belarus, Lukashenko, abused constitution the way he wanted, that was really extreme.

Deploying NATO or UN troops on Ukrainian territory would not be easy. This would depend on the terms of the peace treaty and as far as I know, Russia is against this idea, they would never accept a peace treaty that included this condition. France, England, Germany...want to do it but that doesn't mean they can do it because they don't have the authority to decide that.

Like before, Britain made a bold statement and was ready to send troops to Ukraine, but later, British Armed Forces Minister Luke Pollard corrected that: they would only do so with the support and participation of the United States. If the United States refuses and does not participate, it will never happen.

Whoever offered this to Putin, seems to be a very sarcastic person.

[pooya87]

Like before, Britain made a bold statement and was ready to send troops to Ukraine

This is just as dumb a thing they said as the thing about Russian economy failing by the end of the month 3 years ago
When we check the situation with their armies we can clearly see they already suffer from a severe shortage of men. To put simply, nobody wants to join the NATO militaries. For instance UK barely has 70k troops and all their branches of military are suffering. To the point that for example they can't even man their ships anymore!

Here is a random example: https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/royal-navy-defence-secretary-no-sailors-problems-4795061

So this is not a "bold statement". This is just making some noise to take up some headlines and say they matter in geopolitical matters when in reality "the big boys" don't even let them enter the room...

[serveria.com]

Oh again the lone clown show with the methodology from the Kremlin  
Haven't heard your stupid throw-ins in a long time

I answer - from the beginning of 2022 to the end of 2022, I served in Zaporozhye direction in one of the brigades formed from the territorial defense, after the wounding I was demobilized. And you know it very well, because I have already told you about it many times, but you are like a parrot with the memory of a guppie fish, every time you try to throw this “question” again and again . Now I help to provide the liberation units of the AFU with means to destroy the brown plague of Rashism. I answered your question EVERY SINGLE time.
Well, now I let you answer my question, if the one to whom I asked it, expectedly can not answer it .
Let's hear your next attempt to present your morbid marasmus of Kremlin propaganda as “truth” ! I let you, I look forward to this funny show !

PS Just don't forget - links to lying Kremlin MPIs are not a source of evidence. References to Ukrainian legislative base, to official resources, if you don't have such - just admit that you are a pathetic translator of Kremlin propaganda and you have no other sources of “information” except for it.

PS more than sure that in response will not be cited a single official document, but will be again a bunch of lies and fakes from the Kremlin media and their underlings, but not a single fact. However - it has always been like that with you

My little retarded friend, do you really think somebody here will buy this bullshit?

It's common knowledge that Ukrainian forces typically follow a process of medical treatment and rehabilitation before deciding on demobilization (complete discharge from service). Many wounded soldiers receive treatment and, if fit, return to service in non-combat roles rather than being immediately discharged.
If the person was seriously wounded, it raises the question: Why did they not return to serve in some capacity, such as training or logistics, instead of being completely demobilized?

You can find tons of stories about barely alive soldiers, even with amputated limbs being thrown back into the meat grinder. So what was your injury? You scratched your pinky finger?  

My prediction about mental shit coming from you came true!
My prediction that there will not be any reasoned, OBEDIENT answer from you - came true!
The role of a pathetic clown suits you and you play it well!  
Your pathetic attempts to cling to words - show only your pathetic soul and cowardice to answer honestly
I allow you, because of your mental impotence and stupidity, to continue spewing primitive informational crap, because it is stupid to expect anything else from you!
Question - what is the name of this mental aberration of yours ? Is it when you open your mouth, spew out something expectedly idiotic, as a result of which, in front of everyone, once again, you get your face dipped in the shit of your own stupidity and primitive lies, and you smile with joy ! ?   

Well, I saw it coming.... this mental diarrhea proves you never were in the military and you are a liar and a coward. But it's not too late: you can still get yourself together and overcome your fear. You should stop hiding from the AFU draft officers and finally join the AFU. I believe in you, you can do it!  

Anyway, Ukraine managed to idiotically breach the agreement initiated by Trump, namely a ceasefire on energy facilities. First, they blew up a natural gas pump station in Sudzha, then, today, damaged an oil pumping station in Krasnodar region of Russia. Another proof you can't make any kind of agreements with Ukrainian junta. They will simply be breached ASAP. It means Ukrainian regime will be destroyed completely.    

[Minor Miner]

Like before, Britain made a bold statement and was ready to send troops to Ukraine

This is just as dumb a thing they said as the thing about Russian economy failing by the end of the month 3 years ago

Yes, they say a lot: they say that the Russian economy will soon collapse because of sanctions and the consequences of the war; they say that Russia has exhausted its weapons, they will not be able to prolong the war and will soon sit at the negotiating table...They have been spreading these things since the war broke out, but finally: the war has lasted for more than 3 years, many territories of Ukraine have been annexed by Russia. Most notably, the Russian economy continues to have a year of growth exceeding expectations, with GDP growth in 2024 at 3.9% - 4% and in 2023 at 3.7%, they are completely contrary to predictions and statements from Europe  .


https://sberbank.co.in/media/publications/russian-economic-update?type=trends

[Argoo]

Anyway, Ukraine managed to idiotically breach the agreement initiated by Trump, namely a ceasefire on energy facilities. First, they blew up a natural gas pump station in Sudzha, then, today, damaged an oil pumping station in Krasnodar region of Russia. Another proof you can't make any kind of agreements with Ukrainian junta. They will simply be breached ASAP. It means Ukrainian regime will be destroyed completely.    

It is impossible to violate an agreement that has not yet entered into force. Ukraine has not violated anything, since no agreement has been signed yet. Ukraine accepted the US proposal for a mutual truce to attack energy facilities and infrastructure facilities without any reservations. However, Russia did not give its consent to this, and began to put forward additional demands to Ukraine that have nothing to do with the ceasefire. Due to the fact that Russia refused to sign it, there is no agreement to this day. If someone claims that such an agreement existed and Ukraine violated it, let them indicate when it was signed, by which parties, from what time it entered into force, and most importantly, let them indicate which facilities cannot be attacked according to the agreement. Representatives of the parties have not yet decided on this issue, and there are those who accuse Ukraine of violating the future agreement.

Ukraine supported the ceasefire terms put forward by Trump without any reservations, although they are not very suitable for Ukraine, and Russia puts many additional demands on any peace proposals, and first of all, the lifting of at least some of the sanctions. This is precisely what shows how sanctions work and that they do not strengthen Russia, as the Kremlin has constantly stated, but slowly destroy its economy.
At the same time, Trump's team and he himself are increasingly convinced that it is Russia that does not want to negotiate and Trump must make a decision on this matter.

It is also worth voicing that Russia has been attacking Ukraine every day with missiles and hundreds of drones until recently, targeting schools, hospitals and simply residential buildings of civilians, and after reaching agreements on the obligation not to attack energy infrastructure, it has struck it six times.

[Minor Miner]

Deploying NATO or UN troops on Ukrainian territory would not be easy. This would depend on the terms of the peace treaty and as far as I know, Russia is against this idea, they would never accept a peace treaty that included this condition. France, England, Germany...want to do it but that doesn't mean they can do it because they don't have the authority to decide that.

The issue of sending European soldiers to Ukraine will be discussed by EU countries directly with Kiev, and not with an eye on Moscow's opinion on this issue. This follows from the statements made by French President Macron during his conversation with the media on Saturday, March 15.
"Ukraine is sovereign. If it asks to deploy allied troops on its territory, whether to accept it or not is none of Russia's business," Macron said.

As I said, it would be very difficult for Europe to send troops to Ukraine without the consent and support of the United States, and in the face of Russian opposition.
Just days after making a bold announcement they would send troops to Ukraine. On March 26, Europe withdrew the plan and said that the idea was no longer attractive with the current situation.

Like Ukraine, Europe seems to have no voice, influence or ability to make any decisions on its own in this war, but it is deliberately trying to show that it has great influence.

https://nypost.com/2025/03/26/world-news/europe-walks-back-plan-to-send-troops-to-ukraine-over-logistical-hurdles-lack-of-us-support-not-very-sexy/
Even their closest allies scoff at what Europe is proposing and doing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/europes-talks-ukraine-security-shift-sending-troops-2025-03-26/

[DrBeer]

Hello pathetic, lying, stupid clown

Where is the answer you promised to give ? Or did you promise and shit yourself as usual ?

You as always, which is not surprising to anyone, again promised to do and “went the other way”, hoping that your mass information garbage will allow everyone to forget about your promises. Be at least once in your life a man who keeps his word !

And so I remind you, I'm waiting for your answer. Even to your idiotic questions I answered, now you either answer, or EVERYTHING you show that you are a simple embittered stupid liar .

Here, so that no one forgets your promises, correspondence

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

Sorry to interfere, but as a citizen of Ukraine, I'm just very much interested in where such “ideas” as the one you mentioned that “Ukraine is a pawn in the NATO game” come from. I will be very grateful to you if you explain this idea, logically of course, with facts, real events, dates, documents ? Tell us - when it started and how it was realized by NATO ?

My time to interfere: I will provide everything you ask....

PS I hope you will not delete this post and change its content. Although you won't surprise me by doing so

[pooya87]

Great Britain, have agreed to deploy their troops on the territory of Ukraine

Speaking of "Great" Britain, they've already decided who they want to be next president of Ukraine
Their mouthpieces started advertising him to the point that it even scared him into making a statement fearing this time Zionist Zelensky who fired him before, may eliminate him to keep his rule intact.


It is worth mentioning that Zaluzhnyi is ambassador to the UK...

[Synchronice]

As I said, it would be very difficult for Europe to send troops to Ukraine without the consent and support of the United States, and in the face of Russian opposition.
Just days after making a bold announcement they would send troops to Ukraine. On March 26, Europe withdrew the plan and said that the idea was no longer attractive with the current situation.

I don't think Europe will send troops to Ukraine anytime soon but Europe will prepare, EU countries have already increased their military spendings. I'm afraid to say this but I think that NATO will not last long this way, nor EU (maybe). There might come a time when every country will have to individually protect themselves.
I don't understand what Trump wants to do with the US and allies. It wants to start a war with everyone, including Canada (China included). I don't think US economy is strong enough to fight against the world, so the world will see his bluff. But the current world is very strange, people discuss and seriously take so many dumb subjects that it's ridiculous (I mean gender issues).

[Argoo]

Great Britain, have agreed to deploy their troops on the territory of Ukraine

Speaking of "Great" Britain, they've already decided who they want to be next president of Ukraine
Their mouthpieces started advertising him to the point that it even scared him into making a statement fearing this time Zionist Zelensky who fired him before, may eliminate him to keep his rule intact.


It is worth mentioning that Zaluzhnyi is ambassador to the UK...

And what is surprising about this, if the former commander-in-chief of Ukraine Zaluzhny has repeatedly outdone the current president Zelensky regarding the support of the people of Ukraine. According to the results of a survey conducted in March of this year, Zaluzhny is trusted by 62% of Ukrainians. Of these, 35% of respondents definitely trust the former commander-in-chief, another 27% answered that they rather trust him.
https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/23564531

50.5% of Ukrainians trust Zelensky, and 42.8% do not trust him.
https://tsn.ua/ru/ukrayina/komu-ukraintsy-doveryayut-bolshe-vsego-i-na-kakoy-stupenki-zelenskiy-opros-2799152.html

It seems that the interests of Great Britain and the Ukrainian people coincide here.

[pooya87]

And what is surprising about this, if the former commander-in-chief of Ukraine Zaluzhny has repeatedly outdone the current president Zelensky regarding the support of the people of Ukraine.

When you put it that way, nothing is surprising about it...

But when you "zoom out" so to speak and see how the US regime has been using their Zionist proxy to sign deals that would effectively hand over everything in Ukraine to US and then the English got competitive thinking they are "missing out" and started putting pressure on the Zionist to give them part of the cake that used to be known as Ukraine... you can see things differently. Like suddenly they use the term "president" for Zaluzhnyi basically telling Zionist Zelensky that he has to obey their demands (sale of Ukraine's valuable resources for free) otherwise they'll overthrow him.

[WillyAp]

And what is surprising about this, if the former commander-in-chief of Ukraine Zaluzhny has repeatedly outdone the current president Zelensky regarding the support of the people of Ukraine. According to the results of a survey conducted in March of this year, Zaluzhny is trusted by 62% of Ukrainians. Of these, 35% of respondents definitely trust the former commander-in-chief, another 27% answered that they rather trust him.
https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/23564531

A Russian survey to support another candidate, to replace the one they hate most. 
What a nice gesture.