Portuguese League - Liga Portugal 2022/23

[Slow death]

Before break Benfica looked unstopable, question how they will look now. If Braga will manage to win game or take draw at least, it will let Porto to get a bit closer to Benfica.

well, Benfica is losing against braga, if the game continues like this then this will be a defeat for benfica that will make Porto closer to benfica, but in a way even I was already wondering if this season things would be different because last season when benfica was doing well they started to sell players and the team became unstable and they started to lose games and as a result they didn't manage to become champions, it seems to me that history will repeat itself this season

the fact that benfica is a team like the teams in the bundesliga that are profiting from the business of selling players means that benfica does not care much about winning the league, for benfica to win the league and more a matter of having more exposure for selling players than looking for profit, they only need to worry about securing a place in the champions league, unfortunately this is the scenario for many teams

well:

Braga 2 - 0 Benfica

1 half

it seems to me that the game is already decided

Do you think that Benfica will maintain its pace after the break for the World Cup, or will Braga be the first team to defeat Benfica?

with this current result in which in the 1st half braga is winning by 2 - 0 it does not seem to me that benfica will be able to leave this game with victory, this is a game in which benfica already lost, I just hope that a sequence of bad results, we can put porto as guaranteed champions this season again, this was already expected, benfica has more profit from selling players, they won't worry too much about not winning the portuguese league

[LTU_btc]

well, Benfica is losing against braga, if the game continues like this then this will be a defeat for benfica that will make Porto closer to benfica, but in a way even I was already wondering if this season things would be different because last season when benfica was doing well they started to sell players and the team became unstable and they started to lose games and as a result they didn't manage to become champions, it seems to me that history will repeat itself this season

the fact that benfica is a team like the teams in the bundesliga that are profiting from the business of selling players means that benfica does not care much about winning the league, for benfica to win the league and more a matter of having more exposure for selling players than looking for profit, they only need to worry about securing a place in the champions league, unfortunately this is the scenario for many teams

well:

Braga 2 - 0 Benfica

1 half

it seems to me that the game is already decided

Wow, what a performance by Braga and Benfica suffers their first defeat this season. And it's not just loss, they lost big - 3:0. Braga started game very powerful with early goal and in general, they were better team on pitch. I think that final result reflect game quite well. Third goal of game is must see - great Braga counter attack with precise long pass of goalkeeper. I'm happy about this result because it will make second part of season more interesting.
But I don't agree that for Benfica it doesn't cares about winning league and they think only about selling players and getting into Champions league. I think it's big emberrasement for them when main rivals Sporting and Porto wins league. @joker_josue, you're from Portugal, say the word about it .

[joker_josue]

But I don't agree that for Benfica it doesn't cares about winning league and they think only about selling players and getting into Champions league. I think it's big emberrasement for them when main rivals Sporting and Porto wins league. @joker_josue, you're from Portugal, say the word about it .

You're right! The main Portuguese clubs, basically their main objective is only one every season: to win the national championship. No club at the moment has the capacity to win a Champions League. Even if they can even do good campaigns, it will be very difficult to reach a final and win.

As for selling players... this is somewhat true, in almost all Portuguese clubs, as this is really the only major source of revenue for clubs. The value of the Portuguese league is very low compared to other major European leagues. So the solution is to monetize players.

Returning to Benfica and the first defeat of the season, against Braga. Well, it's the problem that the team did very well and there was a big break in the competition, and when they came back they picked up a strong team. The main rivals had clashes with relatively more accessible teams. Braga is a team that fights for the first places every season, and the game wasn't expected to be easy, as it wasn't.

Benfica had conditions to do better, but a good part of the players were not connected again. It was understood that they wanted to do the same as before, but things did not work. It remains to be seen whether this defeat will shake the team for the next games in January, a complicated month, or not. Especially now that the Enzo is expected to be sold.

[Slow death]

But I don't agree that for Benfica it doesn't cares about winning league and they think only about selling players and getting into Champions league.

 

Benfica's scheme is the same as the Bundesliga clubs, which even look like those mafia guys, these guys no longer care about winning the league, for example:

1 - Benfica bought Darwin Nuñez for 24 million euros, they already had in mind that they were buying a rough diamond that they just needed to polish well and then sell and make a good profit, they weren't worried about buying a player to win the league and then they sold Darwin Nuñez to liverpool for 75 million euros, that is, they sold it for 3X the price they bought

2 - Benfica bought Enzo Fernández for 12 million euros and will sell him for 120 million euros, that is 10x the amount they bought, Benfica and the Bundesliga teams already have a millionaire business and they no longer need to worry in winning the leagues but for them to continue to expose their diamonds in the rough they need to be at the top of the league and be playing in the champions league even if it's just the group stage it's enough to gain exposure

I think it's big emberrasement for them when main rivals Sporting and Porto wins league.

 

they don't even care about that, because they are worried about american dollars, until 10 years ago there was a great rivalry between these 3 clubs: sporting, benfica and porto, but nowadays benfica is more focused on getting rough diamonds (players cheap but with high talent) and then sell at a very high price, the club is profiting a lot from it, and for that reason they don't focus on having a team to win the league, who still thinks that Porto wins the league because they are strong, but that's not true, and because as benfica doesn't even care about winning, then porto has every space to win the league

[Rabi3]

But I don't agree that for Benfica it doesn't cares about winning league and they think only about selling players and getting into Champions league.

 

Benfica's scheme is the same as the Bundesliga clubs, which even look like those mafia guys, these guys no longer care about winning the league, for example:

1 - Benfica bought Darwin Nuñez for 24 million euros, they already had in mind that they were buying a rough diamond that they just needed to polish well and then sell and make a good profit, they weren't worried about buying a player to win the league and then they sold Darwin Nuñez to liverpool for 75 million euros, that is, they sold it for 3X the price they bought

2 - Benfica bought Enzo Fernández for 12 million euros and will sell him for 120 million euros, that is 10x the amount they bought, Benfica and the Bundesliga teams already have a millionaire business and they no longer need to worry in winning the leagues but for them to continue to expose their diamonds in the rough they need to be at the top of the league and be playing in the champions league even if it's just the group stage it's enough to gain exposure

I think it's big emberrasement for them when main rivals Sporting and Porto wins league.

 

they don't even care about that, because they are worried about american dollars, until 10 years ago there was a great rivalry between these 3 clubs: sporting, benfica and porto, but nowadays benfica is more focused on getting rough diamonds (players cheap but with high talent) and then sell at a very high price, the club is profiting a lot from it, and for that reason they don't focus on having a team to win the league, who still thinks that Porto wins the league because they are strong, but that's not true, and because as benfica doesn't even care about winning, then porto has every space to win the league

i don't know if what they are doing in planned or not, they probably just can't refuse offers that big and players also might wat to move to those clubs that offered to sign them, Goncalo Ramos is another player that i think would not last long with Benfica, he is a youngster and has been doing well with Benfica and of course without forgetting his performance against Switzerland with Portugal, it's hard to keep good players when they keep getting big offers from bigger clubs.

[joker_josue]

they don't even care about that, because they are worried about american dollars, until 10 years ago there was a great rivalry between these 3 clubs: sporting, benfica and porto, but nowadays benfica is more focused on getting rough diamonds (players cheap but with high talent) and then sell at a very high price, the club is profiting a lot from it, and for that reason they don't focus on having a team to win the league, who still thinks that Porto wins the league because they are strong, but that's not true, and because as benfica doesn't even care about winning, then porto has every space to win the league

I get the idea, but not quite!

In Portugal there is a very big rivalry between Benfica and Porto (mainly). If Benfica simply stops working to win the championship, it suffers from a lot of persistence on the part of the fans, which makes things very complicated. In Portugal, it is more valuable to win the national championship than a champions league, because they hardly ever get there.

Without a doubt, Benfica managed to develop an excellent youth team and a good network of scouts that allows young players to be profitable. But even then they have to show that the work is being done to win the championship, otherwise the partners can have the president removed from office.

In this specific case, Benfica mismanaged the situation with Enzo, who, according to the national press, did not want to play the match against Braga. Even so, he was in the starting lineup and as a result he was one less element on the field...

[Tumanggor]

Benfica's scheme is the same as the Bundesliga clubs, which even look like those mafia guys, these guys no longer care about winning the league, for example:

1 - Benfica bought Darwin Nuñez for 24 million euros, they already had in mind that they were buying a rough diamond that they just needed to polish well and then sell and make a good profit, they weren't worried about buying a player to win the league and then they sold Darwin Nuñez to liverpool for 75 million euros, that is, they sold it for 3X the price they bought

2 - Benfica bought Enzo Fernández for 12 million euros and will sell him for 120 million euros, that is 10x the amount they bought, Benfica and the Bundesliga teams already have a millionaire business and they no longer need to worry in winning the leagues but for them to continue to expose their diamonds in the rough they need to be at the top of the league and be playing in the champions league even if it's just the group stage it's enough to gain exposure

dortmund sells players but doesn't have achievements, that's very different from benfica, even though they sell great players they are still the strongest team in the Portuguese league

Enzo Fernandes and Nunez are proof that Benfica is good at buying and selling players and reportedly Benfica currently sees Perrone (Velez Sarsfield player) as a potential replacement for Enzo Fernandes and has the opportunity to be of great value again in the future

[joker_josue]

Here is the league table after 14 rounds:

Pos	Team	Played	Won	Draws	Lost	G.For	G.Against	G.Difference	Points
1	Benfica	14	12	1	1	37	10	27	37
2	Porto	14	10	2	2	36	10	26	32
3	Sporting Braga	14	10	1	3	32	12	20	31
4	Sporting CP	14	9	1	4	29	15	14	28
5	Casa Pia	14	8	2	4	15	11	4	26
6	Vitória SC	14	7	2	5	14	16	-2	23
7	Rio Ave	14	5	4	5	17	19	-2	19
8	Portimonense	14	6	1	7	13	16	-3	19
9	Chaves	14	5	4	5	13	18	-5	19
10	Arouca	14	5	4	5	15	24	-9	19
11	Vizela	14	5	3	6	14	13	1	18
12	Boavista	13	5	2	6	14	23	-9	17
13	Estoril	13	4	4	5	14	18	-4	16
14	Famalicão	14	4	2	8	13	18	-5	14
15	Santa Clara	14	3	4	7	11	14	-3	13
16	Gil Vicente	14	3	3	8	12	21	-9	12
17	Marítimo	14	1	4	9	9	28	-19	7
18	Paços de Ferreira	14	0	2	12	7	29	-22	2

Do you like the format/presentation of this table? Any suggestion?

[Distraction]

Benfica had a really good winning streak of five matches before facing Braga. But Braga were the team to put an end to their streak by a solid win like 3-0. It was pretty unexpected to me honestly. Benfica's winning odd was pretty low which I found really weird. Because Braga weren't a team to be underestimated. Of course this 3-0 win is still not very acceptable for Benfica but it was obvious that it was going to be a tough match. Braga had a good history against them in home matches lately and they maintained it.

But even after this loss Benfica are still five points ahead of their closest opponent in the standings. I really appreciate their high effort even though they lose some of their important players to bigger teams.

[Cryptmuster]

Benfica had a great winning streak before the break but after that they lost the last game of last year, it was the first game since the World Cup and Benfica lost 3-0 to Braga. Porto took advantage of this and closed the gap a little, but it is still 5 points. Benfica's next game will be against Portimonense, such an opponent must be defeated, they must not lose all the advantage they have gained in the season.

[joker_josue]

The next journey starts tomorrow:

Santa Clara vs SC Braga
SL Benfica vs Portimonense
FC Famalicão vs FC Vizela
FC Arouca vs Estoril Praia
Vitória SC vs Rio Ave FC
Casa Pia AC vs FC Porto
FC P. Ferreira vs GD Chaves
Marítimo M. vs Sporting CP
Boavista FC vs Gil Vicente FC


With emphasis on Benfica vs Portimonense, after Benfica's first defeat everyone is waiting to see how the team will react.
The Casa Pia vs Porto game should also be interesting, because Casa Pia has had an excellent season, and we'll see if they can withstand the pressure from Porto.


What are your guesses?

[joker_josue]

Santa Clara 0-4 SC Braga
Braga looks like they will have an excellent second round, having a comfortable victory of 4 goals over Santa Clara. It is true that the opponent is not very strong, but Braga's ability to score goals remains.


SL Benfica vs Portimonense
This is going to be the featured game for today.
After suffering the first official defeat of the season, Benfica need to find the right motivation to beat Portimonense before the Lisbon derby against Sporting CP in the next round. With a complicated week to manage, after the defeat and with problems keeping Enzo motivated, it will be an important game for the team's morale.

ODDS: SLB 1.02 // Portimonense 11.50

[Blawpaw]

Benfica has been in the lead so far without any losses, but last week they suffered their first defeat and gave space to the second  team in rank. I hope that this has been the first of many defeats which will benefit Porto.

[Blawpaw]

Benfica has been in the lead so far without any losses, but last week they suffered their first defeat and gave space to the second  team in rank. I hope that this has been the first of many defeats which will benefit Porto.

Benfica is playing with Portimonense today. The Benfica squad is not at their best as a lot of players are still coming around from vacations and the world cup, so it is possible to see Benfica tripping on this match. Hopefully, this will be one where a draw would be a probable outcome.

[Slow death]

Santa Clara 0 - 4 Braga

great victory for braga, after they had crushed benfica, this time they went to crush santa clara who had no reaction condition, with this result braga is in second place, and has a chance of becoming champion too if benfica loses points, in this condition Porto is forced to win in their next game if they want the distance between them and Benfica not to be too big and if they want to become champions Porto cannot lose points in their next game.



it will be very interesting to see how this competition between benfica, braga and porto will be in the next games because this is a very interesting competition, the 3 teams are over goals teams, they manage to score a lot of goals

[MAAManda]

Do you like the format/presentation of this table? Any suggestion?

I really love it, mate. It's like looking at the standings made by Google. I think it would be better if you implemented this standings in @OP, so that when readers open this topic, they can immediately find the most complete data about league standings without having to do a search first. Maybe we can also contact the creators of league topics to make their @OP like this, so we can move on to the next level on league topics.

[Blawpaw]

Santa Clara 0 - 4 Braga

great victory for braga, after they had crushed benfica, this time they went to crush santa clara who had no reaction condition, with this result braga is in second place, and has a chance of becoming champion too if benfica loses points, in this condition Porto is forced to win in their next game if they want the distance between them and Benfica not to be too big and if they want to become champions Porto cannot lose points in their next game.



it will be very interesting to see how this competition between benfica, braga and porto will be in the next games because this is a very interesting competition, the 3 teams are over goals teams, they manage to score a lot of goals

What is making me mad withthe classification is that Maritimo is javing one of the worst years ever and is now  the second in last. Even worst, if they do not improve or get some good results they are in to go down to the second division which never happened before. Maritimo is actually my preferred team in the world as they are my homeland team. I just wish they can turn things around and avoid any remission.

[joker_josue]

Benfica beat Portimonense by 1-0. Despite the goal being a penalty, Benfica had many opportunities throughout the game to score more goals. It wasn't a game with many goals, but it certainly served to give the team some morale again.

Today we will have Porto vs Casa Pia, a game in which Porto certainly has everything to win, despite the excellent season that Casa Pia has been having.

I really love it, mate. It's like looking at the standings made by Google. I think it would be better if you implemented this standings in @OP, so that when readers open this topic, they can immediately find the most complete data about league standings without having to do a search first. Maybe we can also contact the creators of league topics to make their @OP like this, so we can move on to the next level on league topics.

Thanks for the suggestion, and I will maybe do that in the next update.

What is making me mad withthe classification is that Maritimo is javing one of the worst years ever and is now  the second in last. Even worst, if they do not improve or get some good results they are in to go down to the second division which never happened before. Maritimo is actually my preferred team in the world as they are my homeland team. I just wish they can turn things around and avoid any remission.

It really is very strange, or out of the ordinary, what is happening with Maritimo. You can't understand how a mid-table team, over decades, is performing as poorly as this season. They really have to change a lot of things quickly, if they're not going to go down the drain.

[Silence Scream]

Here is the league table after 14 rounds:

Pos	Team	Played	Won	Draws	Lost	G.For	G.Against	G.Difference	Points
1	Benfica	14	12	1	1	37	10	27	37
2	Porto	14	10	2	2	36	10	26	32
3	Sporting Braga	14	10	1	3	32	12	20	31
4	Sporting CP	14	9	1	4	29	15	14	28
5	Casa Pia	14	8	2	4	15	11	4	26
6	Vitória SC	14	7	2	5	14	16	-2	23
7	Rio Ave	14	5	4	5	17	19	-2	19
8	Portimonense	14	6	1	7	13	16	-3	19
9	Chaves	14	5	4	5	13	18	-5	19
10	Arouca	14	5	4	5	15	24	-9	19
11	Vizela	14	5	3	6	14	13	1	18
12	Boavista	13	5	2	6	14	23	-9	17
13	Estoril	13	4	4	5	14	18	-4	16
14	Famalicão	14	4	2	8	13	18	-5	14
15	Santa Clara	14	3	4	7	11	14	-3	13
16	Gil Vicente	14	3	3	8	12	21	-9	12
17	Marítimo	14	1	4	9	9	28	-19	7
18	Paços de Ferreira	14	0	2	12	7	29	-22	2

Do you like the format/presentation of this table? Any suggestion?

Excellent performance from Braga.  I did not think that Benfica would be defeated.  But Braga clearly defeated the leader 3-0.  Benfica is still the clear leader.  With this win, Braga looks ahead in the race for second place.  Of course, if Porto misses a game and wins, they will be ahead of Braga.  The Portuguese league has become a very exciting league with the contribution of the top four teams.

[execijutiere]

Things are starting to heat up in the Portuguese league. After Benfica's defeat to Braga in the last few weeks, the points difference with Braga has dropped to 6 and this week there will be a battle between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon. Any point loss from this match will be in braga's favor. Braga will be one step closer. This week porto's job is not easy either. Their opponents are Casa pia, 5th in the league. And since it's away, they'll have a tough match ahead of them.