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July 17, 2024, 05:14:07 PM
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Yes, it's true, maybe England wouldn't have been able to get to the final if they had met Germany or Spain earlier. But their luck was indeed quite impressive. and it was the second final in a row in which England had finished runners up for two consecutive Euros. And maybe in the next Euro Competition England could again be able to advance to the final. and if that happens then it is quite surprising. But they have never won a European title even though they have always had great players in their squad. And when England made it to the final again, I thought that England would win the European title for the first time. but apparently that didn't happen. And the best team like Spain still gets it because Spain was the team that deserved it from the start. Because the way they play is always not boring.

Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.

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July 17, 2024, 05:16:31 PM
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Uefa have now selected several players who are worthy of being included in euro team this year and the team is mostly dominated by Spanish players, So this indicates that the current Spanish squad is really filled with very good players.


Maybe apart from Kyle Walker, I agree on the best line-up for Euro 2024. The reason is that the RB position that deserves it more is Dani Carvajal. We know that the right side of the Spanish defense is always safe with its impressive performance. Not only at club level, Dani Carvajal can still make a big contribution to his country until the final.

Apart from that, I am very happy to see Spain's generation of golden wingers consisting of Lamine Yamal and Nico Williams because these two players often cook up the opponent's defense, especially in yesterday's final match against England. On the other hand, Cucurella, who usually performed poorly with Chelsea, when playing for Spain surprised everyone with his performance. Even his crucial interceptions often saved Spain from dangerous attacks from opponents.
Kyle Walker may be one of the players who probably shouldn't be in the squad, but we don't know what underlies UEFA choosing Walker as one of the players who deserves to fill the position of the best defender on the right side of the euro team defense during the Euros played this year, if we look at Walker performance he is actually not able to make much of an impact on the English defense and even in the final we can see if the English defense is too It is easy to exploited by Nico Williams, especially in the final match I saw that Walker left his position too often and went up to help England's attack and instead it became a blunder that made it easier for Nico Williams to provide a pass for the Spanish striker to score.
In recent years Spain has continued to produce a lot of young talent who can compete at international level during this time, and I think we will continue to see Spain become a very strong team for the next few years after the regeneration they are currently doing.

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July 17, 2024, 05:22:11 PM
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Yes, it's true, maybe England wouldn't have been able to get to the final if they had met Germany or Spain earlier. But their luck was indeed quite impressive. and it was the second final in a row in which England had finished runners up for two consecutive Euros. And maybe in the next Euro Competition England could again be able to advance to the final. and if that happens then it is quite surprising. But they have never won a European title even though they have always had great players in their squad. And when England made it to the final again, I thought that England would win the European title for the first time. but apparently that didn't happen. And the best team like Spain still gets it because Spain was the team that deserved it from the start. Because the way they play is always not boring.
For me that was privileged to watch most of England, Spain and Germany games in the just concluded UEFA Euros Championship, I think I quite agree with you to an extent. Germany before they were eliminated by the eventual winners of the tournament Spain were visibly better than England in terms of performance and would've stood a better chance of eliminating England if the two teams had met each other in the competition. Germany who happens to be the host nation was unfortunate to meet a stronger team like Spain in the quarter finals which was why they got knocked out while England on the other had was lucky with knockout stages draw. They had to face teams that wasn't as strong as Germany, Spain or France till they reached the final of the competition. England wasn't convincing with their performances but they managed to get to the finals which was what they wanted but couldn't get the ultimate prize because they faced a better team like Spain

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July 17, 2024, 05:54:52 PM
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This could have actually been a more enjoyable tournament if some other favourites also played better. I mean England and France especially here. I can say England were better to watch at least but still not good enough. Bu thankfully we had Spain and Germany as well.  Smiley  After Germany were eliminated I was fully confident about Spain to win the title. Nothing is guaranteed in football, I know. But Spain were just too good to believe in a different team to make it.

After Southgate announced his decision, I guess Deschamps is next?  Tongue
If England had a pair with either Germany  or Spain earlier after their group stage or at the group stage then they might have not even had the privilege of playing at the finals in the first place because there was no way they could have get passed Spain , Germany and even France .. yet they failed at the final  Smiley...they really need to put in more effort probably better luck next time as we now have  a defending champion which is Spain.

England's passage to the knockout stages was easy for them, as England only beat Switzerland and the Netherlands to enter the final. Spain, on the other hand, defeated strong teams like Germany and France to enter the finals and the final match was within their grasp. If England had played the teams that Spain played in the knockout stages, they might not have made it to the final, although England's performance was not that great. Anyway, as Spain team is strong enough and their performance is not comparable, surely they are deserving champions which is why they won the Euro trophy. But England needs to up their game and if they can build a strong squad for the next Euro Cup they will have dreams of winning the title.
You consider Germany and France to be very strong opponents for Spain, while you consider Netherlands and Switzerland as weak opponents for England. Find out more about what Netherlands has achieved in football and how strong Switzerland is in football. Germany and France were tough opponents for Spain and Switzerland and Netherlands were much tougher opponents for England. You have to accept that England performed well in the quarter-final and semi-final matches which led them to qualify for the finals, while Spain's field is the same. However, Spain definitely performed better than England in the final match, attacking as well as counter-attacking which is why they got success against England. With all the players England have in their squad, it is certainly possible to beat the best teams in the world.

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July 17, 2024, 06:26:23 PM
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Winners usually get a better sign from the "players of the tournamnet" type of stuff, but I disagree. Just because spain won, they put so many Spanish players there, and to be fair they played all well too, but Olmo? I do not think so. I think even Akanji is in question, I just don't think that they were as good as this, fabian ruiz wasn't that great neither.

First of all, Jude wasn't "this" bad, ok maybe he wasn't as good as his Real Madrid level, he played better at the club, so I agree, but not in the 11 players of the tournament? Are we insane? Dude still played awesome, hell that over head kick goal to make them go on? That goal alone itself puts him here, anyone who thinks he doesn't is beyond imagination. And this is me, being someone who has never set foot in UK ever in my life, I have no connection to them, and yet even I feel mad about Jude not being in there.

This feels too biased to winners and I think he deserved it even more than Kyle Walker who is his countrymen. I would put in some other different players as well, but I do not want to just do all of this in a post, I think everyone basically can see that they would all have at least one or two players they would prefer.

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July 17, 2024, 06:48:18 PM
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Yes, it's true, maybe England wouldn't have been able to get to the final if they had met Germany or Spain earlier. But their luck was indeed quite impressive. and it was the second final in a row in which England had finished runners up for two consecutive Euros. And maybe in the next Euro Competition England could again be able to advance to the final. and if that happens then it is quite surprising. But they have never won a European title even though they have always had great players in their squad. And when England made it to the final again, I thought that England would win the European title for the first time. but apparently that didn't happen. And the best team like Spain still gets it because Spain was the team that deserved it from the start. Because the way they play is always not boring.

Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
Whether luck or not , it was recorded that they reached the finals and they would have even caused some kind of upset too if only they didn't go back and relax after scoring that equalizer because the goal made them relax and Spain was tirelessly working in the Frontline with the likes of William and yamal running down defenders on a steady.

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Spain is able to be consistent in every match they play so it is not surprising if we see that they are able to reach the final round and win the championship trophy, facing England precisely the young Spanish squad is able to continue their positive trend so far so it seems that they are also still worthy of being favored in the World Cup later, but it seems that for the World Cup, Spain will have quite a tough job because how there will be many strong teams will played Especially Latin America which is likely to be a stumbling block for Spain later, Spain currently manages to become the country that has won the most Euro titles with a total of 4 championship trophies, in addition to winning the Euro Champion trophy automatically makes Spain current ranking rise to 3rd FIFA ranking.
There is no doubt Spain were dominating team in this event with they won 3 games in group stage and concede no goal and having all wins into knockout rounds with just Germany game were tough for them but still things were well under control in all event which allow them to have win in this Euro 2024.

Spain having good squad with many skilled and quality players if they are not having any serious injury then most chances we will have them at their best in coming world cup even we are having good teams into South America but still things are favourable for the Spain to have good chance of going into top spots because they are doing good job in all departments of the game and their quality and consistency is amazing for staying into top teams.

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July 17, 2024, 09:28:01 PM
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You consider Germany and France to be very strong opponents for Spain, while you consider Netherlands and Switzerland as weak opponents for England. Find out more about what Netherlands has achieved in football and how strong Switzerland is in football. Germany and France were tough opponents for Spain and Switzerland and Netherlands were much tougher opponents for England. You have to accept that England performed well in the quarter-final and semi-final matches which led them to qualify for the finals, while Spain's field is the same. However, Spain definitely performed better than England in the final match, attacking as well as counter-attacking which is why they got success against England. With all the players England have in their squad, it is certainly possible to beat the best teams in the world.

What's your point? England had an easier path and they went through it worse. But we can make an assessment from the other side: before the start of the tournament, England was the main favorite (rated slightly better than France), Spain was rated 3 times worse. If I remember correctly the odds were approximately 3 and 10+. But by the finals the roles had completely changed and Spain was already the favorite and they confirmed their status. It turns out England failed, doesn't it?

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July 17, 2024, 10:59:36 PM
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They officially announced the best players during this tournament and now I guess since we are in the summer and transfer windows are open in most of the leagues, we are can see some more offers for these players they had good performances.
This can make everything hard for these teams to keep the players there.


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July 17, 2024, 11:58:42 PM
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And before the final, Spain also played more aggressively compared to England. This can be seen from the statistics below:
A good visualization of what was obvious to everyone: England reached the final only thanks to a convenient tournament bracket and luck/randomness. If you look at the quality of the game, they are somewhere in 4-7 place, no higher, it is not surprising that Southgate is leaving the post of head coach of the national team. He would have been forgiven if England had won the title with a dismal performance, but when there is no performance or result, you have to take responsibility.
Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner.

Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final.


Source: Gareth Southgate
The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

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July 18, 2024, 10:39:00 AM
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Southgate has officially stepped down from his position as England coach.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c978e37ld7ro

I believe this is great news for England, however... It depends on who they are going to bring next. If they don't find a better replacement then this means nothings to them.  Sad

Southgate was feeling the high pressure over himself during Euro 2024. As I was giving this action by him a possibility, I can't say I'm surprised to hear it. I'm afraid he has hever been suitable for this team. England can start lifting trophies finally if they find a good coach.
It is not surprising that Southgate resigned from coaching the England national team. The reason is, he has also coached the England national team for quite a long time, namely since 2016. Apart from that, while coaching the England national team, Southgate also had great difficulty presenting trophies for the England national team. Even in two editions of the Euro, including the current edition, as we know, Southgate failed to present a single trophy for the England national team. So it was natural that he chose to resign, because he felt he was not suitable to be England national team coach. Maybe Southgate is having a little difficulty in managing the players that the England national team currently has. Because as we know, currently the majority of players from England are star players. Maybe because of this, Southgate cannot control the players in the England national team more freely. And because of that, the England national team's performance was less than optimal and their chemistry was not well formed.

So for now the England national team must be able to find a coach who has excellent leadership attitudes. Because that way England's star players can definitely be managed well. Currently, it seems that there are several potential coaches who will be rumored to replace Southgate in the England coaching chair. The coaches are Lee Carsley and Eddie Howe.

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July 18, 2024, 11:03:54 AM
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They officially announced the best players during this tournament and now I guess since we are in the summer and transfer windows are open in most of the leagues, we are can see some more offers for these players they had good performances.
This can make everything hard for these teams to keep the players there.



Talking about the offers for some of these players, we know many of the players on that list would get something higher when it comes to the demand for their services, like Arsenal linking up to Nico Williams and his price value won't be as same as when the tournament was still young and now I think it would be much higher, but can Arsenal even try to get this players? I don't know about the other players but Nico is the only one I've seen that both Arsenal and Chelsea are going for and the player don't have it in mind to play for Barcelona, so would it be a positive addition to the Arsenal side if he eventually joins the Gunners coupled with the players they have?🤔
To make money some of these clubs won't have a rethink on letting some of these players go, like the likes of Saliba of Arsenal, I still think MADRID would do everything humanly possible to get him on their side and I feel it would be a bad choice if Arteta to let him join the Spanish power house Madrid.

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July 18, 2024, 01:27:22 PM
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Maybe apart from Kyle Walker, I agree on the best line-up for Euro 2024. The reason is that the RB position that deserves it more is Dani Carvajal. We know that the right side of the Spanish defense is always safe with its impressive performance. Not only at club level, Dani Carvajal can still make a big contribution to his country until the final.

Apart from that, I am very happy to see Spain's generation of golden wingers consisting of Lamine Yamal and Nico Williams because these two players often cook up the opponent's defense, especially in yesterday's final match against England. On the other hand, Cucurella, who usually performed poorly with Chelsea, when playing for Spain surprised everyone with his performance. Even his crucial interceptions often saved Spain from dangerous attacks from opponents.

Both of them had a great Euros Competition. Kyle Walker made life difficult for whoever that came up on him. Gakpo? Nico Williams? Whodo you want to mention? He's 34 and be still proactive like he is 24Years old. As for Dani Carvajal, same way he performed atba top level for Real Madrid during the Champions League Competition, he did the same for Spain. He is such a good example of consistency and dedication to them youngins.

It's difficult to say who should leave or stay for me (Must have said something about this before ) Nico Williams and Lamine Yamal are great lads, don't you dare forget the name Olmo who was also instrumental during games they played, on the ball and also off the ball.

I watched Marc Cucurella as a Brighton player, then I watched him without bias and I know how good he was attacking and at the same time defending, I also know he had his first Premier League Competition goal against Manchester United. He has been utilized wrongly or he needed time to settle down. I'm certain he'll get better next season.

Akanji shouldn't have made it, I'd rather the name Rudiger.


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July 18, 2024, 01:42:16 PM
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Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
That's right, Spain vs Germany is the ideal final at Euro 2024, these two teams played very well during the Euro. The players of both teams also have great talent who will present a final match full of tension and will spoil the eyes of football fans. However, this match happened faster than expected, Spain had to face a team that qualified for the final due to luck alone.

England are not the favorites to win Euro 2024 because their performance was still below expectations, the players did not have good chemistry between the lines, they had difficulty beating their opponents several times even though they finally managed to appear in the final. Spain really deserved to be champions because they had quality players and their journey to the final was not easy, they had to overcome challenges from big teams in order to appear in the final, the victory over England was very worthy because the quality of the two was very different.

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July 18, 2024, 01:46:54 PM
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You consider Germany and France to be very strong opponents for Spain, while you consider Netherlands and Switzerland as weak opponents for England. Find out more about what Netherlands has achieved in football and how strong Switzerland is in football. Germany and France were tough opponents for Spain and Switzerland and Netherlands were much tougher opponents for England. You have to accept that England performed well in the quarter-final and semi-final matches which led them to qualify for the finals, while Spain's field is the same. However, Spain definitely performed better than England in the final match, attacking as well as counter-attacking which is why they got success against England. With all the players England have in their squad, it is certainly possible to beat the best teams in the world.

What's your point? England had an easier path and they went through it worse. But we can make an assessment from the other side: before the start of the tournament, England was the main favorite (rated slightly better than France), Spain was rated 3 times worse. If I remember correctly the odds were approximately 3 and 10+. But by the finals the roles had completely changed and Spain was already the favorite and they confirmed their status. It turns out England failed, doesn't it?
England performed much lower than expected in the tournament. Frankly, this was a disappointment for many. Of course, I expected success from Spain, but I did not expect a clear difference. They wiped out England in the final and won the championship with their dominant game. Absolutely the entire team deserves recognition. Spain showed again that it is one of the greatest teams in Europe and the world.

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July 18, 2024, 01:59:23 PM
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Yes, it's true, maybe England wouldn't have been able to get to the final if they had met Germany or Spain earlier. But their luck was indeed quite impressive. and it was the second final in a row in which England had finished runners up for two consecutive Euros. And maybe in the next Euro Competition England could again be able to advance to the final. and if that happens then it is quite surprising. But they have never won a European title even though they have always had great players in their squad. And when England made it to the final again, I thought that England would win the European title for the first time. but apparently that didn't happen. And the best team like Spain still gets it because Spain was the team that deserved it from the start. Because the way they play is always not boring.

Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
Whether luck or not , it was recorded that they reached the finals and they would have even caused some kind of upset too if only they didn't go back and relax after scoring that equalizer because the goal made them relax and Spain was tirelessly working in the Frontline with the likes of William and yamal running down defenders on a steady.
Yea, that is what they think is the best for them after equalizing the goal, they wanted to defend the goal to penalty shootout and they forgot that Spain don't win with penalties but within 90 minutes which make me see England as weak because they didn't go to the field to grab the cup but they were hoping to be lucky again.

However reaching the finals is a big achievement for them because they played the best team in the finals which most people knew that England will not win Spain in the finals. So I will say that they reached their highest point in the tournament.

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July 18, 2024, 02:21:21 PM
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Yea, that is what they think is the best for them after equalizing the goal, they wanted to defend the goal to penalty shootout and they forgot that Spain don't win with penalties but within 90 minutes which make me see England as weak because they didn't go to the field to grab the cup but they were hoping to be lucky again.
Dragging the match to penalty shootout would have actually been the best option for England. Initially I was thinking they will fall back to the defense and never allowed Spain to score even a single goal, then use counter attack whenever they get the ball. But it seems they ignored this strategy that helped Chelsea make remarkable progress in their football during the era of Drogba. Hence, they paid the ultimate price of losing the trophy to Spain who are very good at scoring and deserve the winning. Well, the final came out as expected because majority opted for Spain to win.


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July 18, 2024, 02:31:26 PM
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They officially announced the best players during this tournament and now I guess since we are in the summer and transfer windows are open in most of the leagues, we are can see some more offers for these players they had good performances.
This can make everything hard for these teams to keep the players there.



In practice it is a Spain with a few other players.  It is no coincidence that I would like to say, I have always said and bet on Spain and this has not disappointed me at all and has also led me to profits in this regard.
So in the end I was right about Spain.
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July 18, 2024, 02:34:40 PM
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And before the final, Spain also played more aggressively compared to England. This can be seen from the statistics below:
A good visualization of what was obvious to everyone: England reached the final only thanks to a convenient tournament bracket and luck/randomness. If you look at the quality of the game, they are somewhere in 4-7 place, no higher, it is not surprising that Southgate is leaving the post of head coach of the national team. He would have been forgiven if England had won the title with a dismal performance, but when there is no performance or result, you have to take responsibility.
Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner.

Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final.


Source: Gareth Southgate
The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

Gareth Southgate has maintained the morale of the England national soccer team for eight years. Now he needs support himself. Perhaps the best way for him to recover will be a vacation on the beach, where he can quietly drink lemonade and watch from the sidelines. I think it is time for a young and promising English coach to emerge who will favor an attacking style of play.

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The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

The decision is all there if we want, in the end one era ends and another opens.  Sometimes even when you have won it is necessary to change for a sort of renewal.
So I would like to say, okay, thank him and move on.  This is the best way to do things.  As it was for Lippi at Juventus, except that he left as a champion (also with Italy).

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