Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman

[Fredomago]

Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

Yes, and maybe Thurman's greatness is yet about to start and Spence will be just a stepping stone, we don't know. But that experience he had from Manny Pacquiao helped him to be a much more experienced boxer now, he may be inactive for quite some time after his defeat but now his looking forward to grab his 2nd win since he returned in the limelight.

Thurman still got the good form and his fighting skills still showing from his recent fight, the chance of upsetting Spence is not by far, Thurman only needs to work out and train harder, just like how other fighters, adding more routine with his current trainings and drills will allow him to get a much better shape. His chances to strip Spence will be a good achievement after being beaten by Pacquiao, jus like how it has been described that one is really close. Manny wins with U.D too close that almost been a snatch from Thurman.

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[stadus]

Their records are quite close with one another, I'm not even seeing Thurman's first loss as a disadvantage. Spence is still on a streak but I guess he's still the 'underdog' (only on my point of view) if this match is really happening. One reason is experience of Thurman wherein he fought against big names of boxing industry (well spence as well) but I don't know; there's something with Thurman's previous opponents not only with pacman, which made me a bit of his fan. More like Thurman is more of a solid puncher for me, compared to Spence who often boxes out 'coz he's more of a texbook fighter.

Would be really a great match up. Big respect to the champ still even if I'm a fan of Thurman. Both have advantages;different styles in the 'square'. This would be exciting for sure!

This fight has been ordered by the WBC and that reason alone is already sufficient to believe that this fight will push through but I'm thinking that Spence might just give Thurman a shot on the WBC belt and not all the three titles that Spence has been holding, there's a reason why and it goes way back when Spence was looking forward to be a challenger of the WBA belt that Thurman held at that time, but he was denied. Not sure about this because I cannot find any article or story that can verify Spence's claim.

Anyway, fate made them to cross each other's path again and this time it's almost inevitable, just waiting for the final announcement regarding their match-up. This will be a good fight because Keith Thurman does have a good chance against Errol Spence, this will be fun.

[AmoreJaz]

Their records are quite close with one another, I'm not even seeing Thurman's first loss as a disadvantage. Spence is still on a streak but I guess he's still the 'underdog' (only on my point of view) if this match is really happening. One reason is experience of Thurman wherein he fought against big names of boxing industry (well spence as well) but I don't know; there's something with Thurman's previous opponents not only with pacman, which made me a bit of his fan. More like Thurman is more of a solid puncher for me, compared to Spence who often boxes out 'coz he's more of a texbook fighter.

Would be really a great match up. Big respect to the champ still even if I'm a fan of Thurman. Both have advantages;different styles in the 'square'. This would be exciting for sure!

This fight has been ordered by the WBC and that reason alone is already sufficient to believe that this fight will push through but I'm thinking that Spence might just give Thurman a shot on the WBC belt and not all the three titles that Spence has been holding, there's a reason why and it goes way back when Spence was looking forward to be a challenger of the WBA belt that Thurman held at that time, but he was denied. Not sure about this because I cannot find any article or story that can verify Spence's claim.

Anyway, fate made them to cross each other's path again and this time it's almost inevitable, just waiting for the final announcement regarding their match-up. This will be a good fight because Keith Thurman does have a good chance against Errol Spence, this will be fun.

though we will expect that spence will be the favourite here when it comes to odds. but for those rooting with thurman as for sure, he will seriously prepare on this fight, would be good to place bet as the odds will be good, may be 2x or more. we will see on this fight also if thurman is ready on this comeback and if he can fight big names to get a place again on this sports.

[Yaunfitda]

Their records are quite close with one another, I'm not even seeing Thurman's first loss as a disadvantage. Spence is still on a streak but I guess he's still the 'underdog' (only on my point of view) if this match is really happening. One reason is experience of Thurman wherein he fought against big names of boxing industry (well spence as well) but I don't know; there's something with Thurman's previous opponents not only with pacman, which made me a bit of his fan. More like Thurman is more of a solid puncher for me, compared to Spence who often boxes out 'coz he's more of a texbook fighter.

Would be really a great match up. Big respect to the champ still even if I'm a fan of Thurman. Both have advantages;different styles in the 'square'. This would be exciting for sure!

This fight has been ordered by the WBC and that reason alone is already sufficient to believe that this fight will push through but I'm thinking that Spence might just give Thurman a shot on the WBC belt and not all the three titles that Spence has been holding, there's a reason why and it goes way back when Spence was looking forward to be a challenger of the WBA belt that Thurman held at that time, but he was denied. Not sure about this because I cannot find any article or story that can verify Spence's claim.

Anyway, fate made them to cross each other's path again and this time it's almost inevitable, just waiting for the final announcement regarding their match-up. This will be a good fight because Keith Thurman does have a good chance against Errol Spence, this will be fun.

though we will expect that spence will be the favourite here when it comes to odds. but for those rooting with thurman as for sure, he will seriously prepare on this fight, would be good to place bet as the odds will be good, may be 2x or more. we will see on this fight also if thurman is ready on this comeback and if he can fight big names to get a place again on this sports.

Yes, I initially thought that Spence could win this easily, but I have a feeling that if the fight push through, Thurman has still something inside, some fire to proved that he is still elite as he once was one of the champion in this division and he was the man before Spence and Crawford step up in 147 lbs and before he was defeated by the legendary Pacquiao.

So maybe he can still fight and show us some good action. He has power and Spence is known to have a chin that is very suspected. Ugas hit him cleanly when they are in a break and Spence legs wiggle for a bit. So just imagine if Thurman still has the power, maybe he could give Spence a problem as a underdog.

[inthelongrun]

So up to now, we are not hearing anything. Are both sides negotiating or what? If they do not come up with a deal then I believe Spence will be stripped right away since both are handled by PBC which makes a mandatory purse bid unnecessary. Or maybe I am wrong, a purse bid will benefit Errol Spence's share of the money as a champion. The default WBC share for the champion is 63% against the challenger's 27% share while the remaining 10% will be awarded to the winner. No way Thurman will receive a 27% share, he is probably even more popular than Spence if not for the belts. But a purse bid is not also favorable to PBC because another promoter might win the bid and own the rights to stage this big fight. Most likely PBC and Spence will work this out together. Another option is for Spence to abandon his 3 belts and move up in weight but he will be throwing this easy million-dollar fight.

[Hypnosis00]

So up to now, we are not hearing anything. Are both sides negotiating or what? If they do not come up with a deal then I believe Spence will be stripped right away since both are handled by PBC which makes a mandatory purse bid unnecessary. Or maybe I am wrong, a purse bid will benefit Errol Spence's share of the money as a champion. The default WBC share for the champion is 63% against the challenger's 27% share while the remaining 10% will be awarded to the winner. No way Thurman will receive a 27% share, he is probably even more popular than Spence if not for the belts. But a purse bid is not also favorable to PBC because another promoter might win the bid and own the rights to stage this big fight. Most likely PBC and Spence will work this out together. Another option is for Spence to abandon his 3 belts and move up in weight but he will be throwing this easy million-dollar fight.

I guess Thurman would not mind the purse, he is more after of the belt that he will get once he wins the fight. Of course, once he become a champion, he will be the one that will dictate the terms and will enjoy a good percentage of purse and better rewards once he is in the position. For now, he has to sacrifice a bit, winning should be his main goal in this fight.

[Fredomago]

So up to now, we are not hearing anything. Are both sides negotiating or what? If they do not come up with a deal then I believe Spence will be stripped right away since both are handled by PBC which makes a mandatory purse bid unnecessary. Or maybe I am wrong, a purse bid will benefit Errol Spence's share of the money as a champion. The default WBC share for the champion is 63% against the challenger's 27% share while the remaining 10% will be awarded to the winner. No way Thurman will receive a 27% share, he is probably even more popular than Spence if not for the belts. But a purse bid is not also favorable to PBC because another promoter might win the bid and own the rights to stage this big fight. Most likely PBC and Spence will work this out together. Another option is for Spence to abandon his 3 belts and move up in weight but he will be throwing this easy million-dollar fight.

I guess Thurman would not mind the purse, he is more after of the belt that he will get once he wins the fight. Of course, once he become a champion, he will be the one that will dictate the terms and will enjoy a good percentage of purse and better rewards once he is in the position. For now, he has to sacrifice a bit, winning should be his main goal in this fight.

Yeah, for now, the belt is the motivation to fight. The money will come once he wins the belt and the demands will be there in his favor. We don't hear any update and maybe there are talks or negotiation in terms of the bids and once they come up with the solution or any update, they will announce it and will inform all the speculators about this possible upcoming fight.

I still want to see these two inside the ring. Spence holds the belts, but Thurman is a big threat that he needed to beat.

[mirakal]

Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

Yes, and maybe Thurman's greatness is yet about to start and Spence will be just a stepping stone, we don't know. But that experience he had from Manny Pacquiao helped him to be a much more experienced boxer now, he may be inactive for quite some time after his defeat but now his looking forward to grab his 2nd win since he returned in the limelight.

Thurman still got the good form and his fighting skills still showing from his recent fight, the chance of upsetting Spence is not by far, Thurman only needs to work out and train harder, just like how other fighters, adding more routine with his current trainings and drills will allow him to get a much better shape. His chances to strip Spence will be a good achievement after being beaten by Pacquiao, jus like how it has been described that one is really close. Manny wins with U.D too close that almost been a snatch from Thurman.

That specific defeat he experienced against Manny Pacquaio doesn't make him at a disadvantageous side nor made him a sore loser because just as you said, he was just defeated closely and not that far. In fact, that helped him a lot and grow into what he is now. This future fight is good to see because it's very unpredictable to know who have the higher hand and who does have the advantages. Some may say that Spence have it but not really, I'd say.

[boyptc]

You know what I'll wait on this match? And that is the hype of Thurman and that's the same thing that he has done when he was against Pacman.

It'll bring more hype to this match if he'll do the same marketing as those words that he has said on how confident he is to beat Spence on defending his title.

And when this match is done, is there still possibility that Spence will fight Crawford?

[btc_angela]

You know what I'll wait on this match? And that is the hype of Thurman and that's the same thing that he has done when he was against Pacman.

It'll bring more hype to this match if he'll do the same marketing as those words that he has said on how confident he is to beat Spence on defending his title.

And when this match is done, is there still possibility that Spence will fight Crawford?

Yes, I think Thurman has still the hype behind his name, although his performance against Barrios is a lot to be question because Barrios is not a legitimate welterweight and he chooses him as his comeback fight. Obviously, he won and then he went on another hiatus.

But this time, for sure Thurman will hype this fight like he did against Manny Pacquiao. He is also a gifted "talker". So who knows, maybe he will sell this fight through his mouth again.

Forget about Spence vs Crawford.

[Fredomago]

Whether Thurman has gone rusty after Manny beats him will be seen when the fight between Spence and Thurman happens.  I think the fight against Barrios is enough to awaken the and repolish his boxing skills.  Though many favors Spence, I think I'll go with the underdog this time.  With the punching power of Thurman, upset is very possible.

Thurman proved that he is still here, Pacman beat him but it was a close decision, and we saw very well that the fight was very close and that Thurman could also win that fight if the judges will give him the win. One loss does not make Thurman a bad boxers, especially that the defeat was against a hall of famer.

Yes, and maybe Thurman's greatness is yet about to start and Spence will be just a stepping stone, we don't know. But that experience he had from Manny Pacquiao helped him to be a much more experienced boxer now, he may be inactive for quite some time after his defeat but now his looking forward to grab his 2nd win since he returned in the limelight.

Thurman still got the good form and his fighting skills still showing from his recent fight, the chance of upsetting Spence is not by far, Thurman only needs to work out and train harder, just like how other fighters, adding more routine with his current trainings and drills will allow him to get a much better shape. His chances to strip Spence will be a good achievement after being beaten by Pacquiao, jus like how it has been described that one is really close. Manny wins with U.D too close that almost been a snatch from Thurman.

That specific defeat he experienced against Manny Pacquaio doesn't make him at a disadvantageous side nor made him a sore loser because just as you said, he was just defeated closely and not that far. In fact, that helped him a lot and grow into what he is now. This future fight is good to see because it's very unpredictable to know who have the higher hand and who does have the advantages. Some may say that Spence have it but not really, I'd say.

Yes, maybe just because he is the current champ, and that's a good reason for bookies to give him the credit of being a favorite but fighting skills wise, I also think that it's not that far between him and Thurman, though we will only see that when they both inside the ring and once they execute their fighting plan and adjust to what the opponent's fighting strategy.

You know what I'll wait on this match? And that is the hype of Thurman and that's the same thing that he has done when he was against Pacman.

It'll bring more hype to this match if he'll do the same marketing as those words that he has said on how confident he is to beat Spence on defending his title.

And when this match is done, is there still possibility that Spence will fight Crawford?

Yes, I think Thurman has still the hype behind his name, although his performance against Barrios is a lot to be question because Barrios is not a legitimate welterweight and he chooses him as his comeback fight. Obviously, he won and then he went on another hiatus.

But this time, for sure Thurman will hype this fight like he did against Manny Pacquiao. He is also a gifted "talker". So who knows, maybe he will sell this fight through his mouth again.

Forget about Spence vs Crawford.

Maybe for the sake of money he will do it again, he's great attracting fans with the way he sell his fight..

If the fight will be pushed we will hear more from both camps.

[Yamifoud]

You know what I'll wait on this match? And that is the hype of Thurman and that's the same thing that he has done when he was against Pacman.

It'll bring more hype to this match if he'll do the same marketing as those words that he has said on how confident he is to beat Spence on defending his title.

And when this match is done, is there still possibility that Spence will fight Crawford?

Yes, I think Thurman has still the hype behind his name, although his performance against Barrios is a lot to be question because Barrios is not a legitimate welterweight and he chooses him as his comeback fight. Obviously, he won and then he went on another hiatus.

But this time, for sure Thurman will hype this fight like he did against Manny Pacquiao. He is also a gifted "talker". So who knows, maybe he will sell this fight through his mouth again.

Forget about Spence vs Crawford.

Of course, boxing fans know about Thurman and how brave he is in fighting Pacman. Although he loss he entertained the crowd by giving Pacman a good fight, that's why fans will never forget what he did and now that he is on his way to becoming a champion again, I think he will not miss this opportunity.

[Questat]

So far, Errol Spence won the voting. However, it's fun to see that some posters think Thurman stands a chance of winning this fight. I'm hoping that it will not end in the judges' scorecards so there will be no controversy in case this fight is going to be a tight one. Thurman is not gonna make it easy for Spence, he is the champ but Thurman was once a champ and he is still young and could prove that he deserves to have a belt again.

[stadus]

Their records are quite close with one another, I'm not even seeing Thurman's first loss as a disadvantage. Spence is still on a streak but I guess he's still the 'underdog' (only on my point of view) if this match is really happening. One reason is experience of Thurman wherein he fought against big names of boxing industry (well spence as well) but I don't know; there's something with Thurman's previous opponents not only with pacman, which made me a bit of his fan. More like Thurman is more of a solid puncher for me, compared to Spence who often boxes out 'coz he's more of a texbook fighter.

Would be really a great match up. Big respect to the champ still even if I'm a fan of Thurman. Both have advantages;different styles in the 'square'. This would be exciting for sure!

This fight has been ordered by the WBC and that reason alone is already sufficient to believe that this fight will push through but I'm thinking that Spence might just give Thurman a shot on the WBC belt and not all the three titles that Spence has been holding, there's a reason why and it goes way back when Spence was looking forward to be a challenger of the WBA belt that Thurman held at that time, but he was denied. Not sure about this because I cannot find any article or story that can verify Spence's claim.

Anyway, fate made them to cross each other's path again and this time it's almost inevitable, just waiting for the final announcement regarding their match-up. This will be a good fight because Keith Thurman does have a good chance against Errol Spence, this will be fun.

though we will expect that spence will be the favourite here when it comes to odds. but for those rooting with thurman as for sure, he will seriously prepare on this fight, would be good to place bet as the odds will be good, may be 2x or more. we will see on this fight also if thurman is ready on this comeback and if he can fight big names to get a place again on this sports.

No doubt! The bookies will judge the boxer's recent fights and performance before they display it for the bettors and because of that, Spence will be the favourite to win as he came from an outstanding win from Ugas while Thurman will be the underdog as he have just returned recently and defeated one tune-up fight from being inactive for quite a long time. That being said, Thurman's odds will be juicy and might differ greatly from Spence's.

[Japinat]

So far, Errol Spence won the voting. However, it's fun to see that some posters think Thurman stands a chance of winning this fight. I'm hoping that it will not end in the judges' scorecards so there will be no controversy in case this fight is going to be a tight one. Thurman is not gonna make it easy for Spence, he is the champ but Thurman was once a champ and he is still young and could prove that he deserves to have a belt again.

Not surprising because many people believed that Thurman cannot make any difference at this point while Spence's still on his peak, I'm not saying that Thurman is already old because their gap is only a year, but people will still believe that he doesn't have that skillset to defeat the 3-belt champion and that excludes me because I believe that Thurman is not yet done.

I'd say that Spence should secure a rematch clause just to be sure if ever Thurman will indeed manage to upset Spence because I can see that Thurman might face another boxer instead if he's through with Spence as there's no clause that will block his way. Just a wild speculation though!

[harizen]

Not surprising because many people believed that Thurman cannot make any difference at this point while Spence's still on his peak, I'm not saying that Thurman is already old because their gap is only a year, but people will still believe that he doesn't have that skillset to defeat the 3-belt champion and that excludes me because I believe that Thurman is not yet done.

I understand your point though because Thurman, even rested for almost 31 months, still showed dominance against Mario Barrios and the final score given is really that gap. Although Barrios can't be compared with Spence, that means that Thurman still has it.

However, Spence's previous winnings via Decision are all landslide wins and the scores tell it all. It means no one from those opponents gives Spence a hard time even coming from a deadly car crash. Can't choose between them but I just hope that Thurman can at least give Spence a tough and close fight.

[inthelongrun]

Not surprising because many people believed that Thurman cannot make any difference at this point while Spence's still on his peak, I'm not saying that Thurman is already old because their gap is only a year, but people will still believe that he doesn't have that skillset to defeat the 3-belt champion and that excludes me because I believe that Thurman is not yet done.

I understand your point though because Thurman, even rested for almost 31 months, still showed dominance against Mario Barrios and the final score given is really that gap. Although Barrios can't be compared with Spence, that means that Thurman still has it.

However, Spence's previous winnings via Decision are all landslide wins and the scores tell it all. It means no one from those opponents gives Spence a hard time even coming from a deadly car crash. Can't choose between them but I just hope that Thurman can at least give Spence a tough and close fight.

Mario Barrios though just moved up in weight and in his last fight, he was badly dismantled by a tiny Tank Davis. Thurman is a real welterweight and he was expected to have an easy night with Barrios.  He clearly won against Barrios but there were many moments when he struggled and was running away.

Although Spence still looked vulnerable, his offense is becoming better since his accident. So far Spence struggled only against former champs Shawn Porter and Kell Brook, the same fighters that were demolished by Terrence Crawford. 

[mirakal]

I'd say that Spence should secure a rematch clause just to be sure if ever Thurman will indeed manage to upset Spence because I can see that Thurman might face another boxer instead if he's through with Spence as there's no clause that will block his way. Just a wild speculation though!

That makes sense, it's indeed better for Spence to do that and secure a rematch clause if ever the fight won't go as expected, just an added safety precaution so that Thurman will be obliged to fight him again. There's a high percentage that Thurman will move on and maybe fight Crawford next if he will upset Spence. However, if Spence here and his camp is really that confident that he can defeat the former champion then there's no need for that.

[Jating]

I'd say that Spence should secure a rematch clause just to be sure if ever Thurman will indeed manage to upset Spence because I can see that Thurman might face another boxer instead if he's through with Spence as there's no clause that will block his way. Just a wild speculation though!

That makes sense, it's indeed better for Spence to do that and secure a rematch clause if ever the fight won't go as expected, just an added safety precaution so that Thurman will be obliged to fight him again. There's a high percentage that Thurman will move on and maybe fight Crawford next if he will upset Spence. However, if Spence here and his camp is really that confident that he can defeat the former champion then there's no need for that.

Not sure though if that is going to be included, they are under PBC as far as I know. So both of them could simply request for a rematch if the fight ended in a controversial manner. And Al Haymon would love it, as the money will all be in house.

I'm still not seeing the odds for this fight though, but I think Spence will be the outstanding favorite in this fight as Thurman has been out for many months after his comeback win against Barrios.

[Baofeng]

Not surprising because many people believed that Thurman cannot make any difference at this point while Spence's still on his peak, I'm not saying that Thurman is already old because their gap is only a year, but people will still believe that he doesn't have that skillset to defeat the 3-belt champion and that excludes me because I believe that Thurman is not yet done.

I understand your point though because Thurman, even rested for almost 31 months, still showed dominance against Mario Barrios and the final score given is really that gap. Although Barrios can't be compared with Spence, that means that Thurman still has it.

However, Spence's previous winnings via Decision are all landslide wins and the scores tell it all. It means no one from those opponents gives Spence a hard time even coming from a deadly car crash. Can't choose between them but I just hope that Thurman can at least give Spence a tough and close fight.

Mario Barrios though just moved up in weight and in his last fight, he was badly dismantled by a tiny Tank Davis. Thurman is a real welterweight and he was expected to have an easy night with Barrios.  He clearly won against Barrios but there were many moments when he struggled and was running away.

Barrios should be no where the 147 lbs division, the top champions are going to dismantle him. As for Thurman performance, I will gave him so so performance against Barrios. But it is understandable as this is a come back fight for him and he gasses out in the later round and so he was running away.

Although Spence still looked vulnerable, his offense is becoming better since his accident. So far Spence struggled only against former champs Shawn Porter and Kell Brook, the same fighters that were demolished by Terrence Crawford. 

Some mental lapses for Spence as well, if he did this to Thurman or maybe Crawford he could be in danger of being knock down, here is the video in round 6,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwticO6uKns