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July 04, 2023, 06:51:55 AM
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Top players need top managers to excel. See how well the Norwegian footballer Erling Haaland excelled under the management of Pep Guardiola. Steve Gerrard does not exactly fit the profile of top manager, he refused the deal before to move to Saudi Arabia, but since he has been without a job for a while, I am sure he has been forced to reconsider, also joined that the league is getting attention now more than last three months since they started heavily bringing other professional footballers to the league asides Ronaldo. He has some experience in English football as a player and coach in Aston Villa, and that can be of benefit to the improvement of the game of Al Ettifaq in the Saudi Professional League.

Saudis are splashing money like never before. This is the difference between them and the other Arabs. Qatar Sports Investments invested money in foreign leagues and clubs such as Paris Saint-Germain. The Saudis on the other hand are trying to strengthen the local league by spending money to acquire players and coaching staff. And the results are there for everyone to see. Qatar failed to win a single match during last year's world cup, and the Saudi Professional League is about to become one of the top football leagues globally.

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July 04, 2023, 09:36:32 AM
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It’s just a matter of time, very soon Saudi Arabia league will become very competitive and popular just like the way other leagues are popular, Saudi Arabia is really pumping money into football by getting talented players and coaches and they are being to get the public attention, lots of people will start following up Saudi Arabia league matches because of the players they signed.



Source article: https://en.as.com/soccer/cristiano-ronaldo-lines-up-nike-for-al-nassr-n/

To be competitive and very popular, I totally agree with your opinion and this is just how the Saudi league is able to maintain for many seasons and not just focus on the next season. We know that the initial arrival of one of the GOATs was an extraordinary trigger for a European player to determine his career in the Saudi league team and at the same time to get a lot of savings in the future.

There is the latest news about the popularity of this league which has made Nike, which is one of the biggest apparel brands in the world, finally signed a contract for 1 season with Al-Nassr. Maybe it's clear that this is the effect of Cristiano Ronaldo as Nike's main brand ambassador and it is likely that there will still be other apparel that will be interested in establishing a cooperation contract with other Saudi league teams later.

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July 04, 2023, 09:41:03 AM
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Top players need top managers to excel. See how well the Norwegian footballer Erling Haaland excelled under the management of Pep Guardiola. Steve Gerrard does not exactly fit the profile of top manager, he refused the deal before to move to Saudi Arabia, but since he has been without a job for a while, I am sure he has been forced to reconsider, also joined that the league is getting attention now more than last three months since they started heavily bringing other professional footballers to the league asides Ronaldo. He has some experience in English football as a player and coach in Aston Villa, and that can be of benefit to the improvement of the game of Al Ettifaq in the Saudi Professional League.

Saudis are splashing money like never before. This is the difference between them and the other Arabs. Qatar Sports Investments invested money in foreign leagues and clubs such as Paris Saint-Germain. The Saudis on the other hand are trying to strengthen the local league by spending money to acquire players and coaching staff. And the results are there for everyone to see. Qatar failed to win a single match during last year's world cup, and the Saudi Professional League is about to become one of the top football leagues globally.

I don't think it's right for them to spend so much money. If they want to improve the quality of the league and make the name of Saudi Arabia more popular, they should give importance to infrastructure. The ad that comes after giving millions of dollars to players over 30 doesn't make sense. Can you tell me a good football player, a citizen of Saudi Arabia? nothing comes to my mind. I think it makes more sense to have players around the world. Therefore, instead of paying 200 million Euros for 1 year, 200 million Euros can be spent on infrastructure and youth, and they can present great players to the world football market after 10 years.

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July 04, 2023, 09:45:32 AM
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I don't think it's right for them to spend so much money. If they want to improve the quality of the league and make the name of Saudi Arabia more popular, they should give importance to infrastructure. The ad that comes after giving millions of dollars to players over 30 doesn't make sense. Can you tell me a good football player, a citizen of Saudi Arabia? nothing comes to my mind. I think it makes more sense to have players around the world. Therefore, instead of paying 200 million Euros for 1 year, 200 million Euros can be spent on infrastructure and youth, and they can present great players to the world football market after 10 years.
we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.



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July 04, 2023, 10:17:06 AM
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we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.

I am not sure it will be a concern because the same thing happened in the top league Premier, Serie A and La Liga and the fact is their national team can still compete in several tournaments, indeed the situation is a little different in the Saudi League but overall I think there are more positive impacts. If we check the Al Nassr squad of all the players there are only 4-6 players from other countries the rest are local players. Regarding the mission of the club owner brought European top players, I have explained here even though we don't have data for the accuracy, I think that's the most reasonable reason.

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July 04, 2023, 10:22:24 AM
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This time, the Saudi Arabia league is focusing more on coaches, attempting to apply new gaming techniques from European coaches, which is one of the reasons they brought in Steven Gerrard. The Saudi league is assisting in reviving the coach, who has been out of work since being fired from Aston Villa Park. Steven Gerrard is a well-known coach outside of the EPL; he simply does not know how to handle great or mediocre clubs. He's the main character in the game, and he's not going to give up on the major mission at hand, let's hope for the best results from Steve Gerrard in his new club.
There's no need to change the coach for top clubs in SPL. The club that is placed at the bottom shall take care of this. If they wanna get more improvements in their gameplay and i think signed a new coach gonna be very useful not only for the club but for the players too.
Im feeling skeptical with gerrard. Even though he will be coaching a nonpopular club but i have the feeling that if gerrard may not be successful to bring ittifaq to the top positions. Gerrard failed a few times in EPL.
He may also fail again in SPL. People are still expecting a lot from him while im not even thinking he will be able to change ittifaq drastically. There will be a negligible difference for ittifaq compared to last season. Gerrard is gonna fail again.
He never learned from what happened with him in EPL.

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July 04, 2023, 10:36:55 AM
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Top players need top managers to excel. See how well the Norwegian footballer Erling Haaland excelled under the management of Pep Guardiola. Steve Gerrard does not exactly fit the profile of top manager, he refused the deal before to move to Saudi Arabia, but since he has been without a job for a while, I am sure he has been forced to reconsider, also joined that the league is getting attention now more than last three months since they started heavily bringing other professional footballers to the league asides Ronaldo. He has some experience in English football as a player and coach in Aston Villa, and that can be of benefit to the improvement of the game of Al Ettifaq in the Saudi Professional League.

Saudis are splashing money like never before. This is the difference between them and the other Arabs. Qatar Sports Investments invested money in foreign leagues and clubs such as Paris Saint-Germain. The Saudis on the other hand are trying to strengthen the local league by spending money to acquire players and coaching staff. And the results are there for everyone to see. Qatar failed to win a single match during last year's world cup, and the Saudi Professional League is about to become one of the top football leagues globally.
Advancing the local league is indeed a very wise thing. because it's not only the world of football that will progress there but it will attract investors and outside sponsors to join in and sponsor the clubs in the local league itself. Even the European media are now starting to report a lot about the Arab league. And I think in the coming season the world will really pay more attention to arab league football. Because even now international sports news is always warm with news from the Arab League. both in terms of player transfers or other matters. A lot of money spent to bring in the world's top players and top coaches really brings profitable results for Arab league football itself. Because I think this is not only about advancing Arab football but also about the business in it.
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July 04, 2023, 12:29:44 PM
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After repeatedly failing to coach teams in Europe, there are now rumors that Steven Gerrard will be Al-Ittifaq's coach in the Saudi league next season. According to The Athletic, Gerrard previously turned down the offer and is now confident he will be Al-Ittifaq's coach. Indeed, at this time there are still no offers from other European teams after the last time Gerrard handled Aston Villa and was sacked in October last year and I think there is nothing wrong if he accepts the offer from Al-Ittifaq first to fill the void as well as to make a lot of money.
Gerrard achievement as a manager is not so impressive that last time he was train Aston Villa but he was sacked and Arabian team Al Ettifaq indeed officially want Gerrard to be their next manager and actually this rumour was appears since few weeks ago and Gerrard even was invited went to Saudi Arabia to see the condition of Al Ettifaq stadium and the players but last time i have read the news related to this rumour is Gerrard himself has been rejected the offer from Al Ettifaq because although Al Ettifaq will offering fantastic salary for him but Gerrard doesn't interested to spend his managerial career on Saudi Pro League this becauae he still want to train european teams
The rise and fall of Steven Gerrard's managing career has made for intriguing reading, wouldn't you agree? The Rangers went undefeated throughout his time there and went on to win the championship. Nonetheless, his eleven months with Aston Villa were cut tragically short, when he was fired. The arrival of Al Ettifaq to the Saudi league presents a fresh chance.

Even if it's not quite as esteemed as the English Premier League, maybe Gerrard might use it to hone his managing talents after his loss at Aston Villa. I consider this when I read that Gerrard has turned down Al Ettifaq's offer, despite the enticing pay. His choice for European teams may reflect his desire to continue competing at a high level. What type of effect do you think a choice like that would have on his career?

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July 04, 2023, 01:50:48 PM
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This topic started in January 4th of 2023, so at the start of this year basically and we are in July now. We have 6 months done, and we are above 120 pages already, which means that there has been 20 pages per month, nearly at a level of 0.75 pages per day give or take.

That should be showing you how much this league got popular and when you are wondering why they are overpaying players more than what they are worth, it is 100% definitely not about how good those players are. They do not care about that, they all get someone, that's not the point. The point is that we wrote almost 1 page per day for this league, over half a page at the very least. This is why they spent that money, to be talked about, to be known, and to be followed. They achieved it.
You can like or dislike Cristiano Ronaldo, but you have to admit that he started the process in the Saudi League. Many players have also decided, looking at Ronaldo, that they can go and play there, especially considering the huge money that is offered there. Now Benzema, Kante, Firmino and other top players play there in addition to Ronaldo. And it's not over yet, it's quite possible a couple more players will join the league.

So soon I think the Saudi league will be in the top ten of the leading soccer leagues, if it continues to actively look for and attract players. 
Looks like Saudi Arabia is building a mega project through football. Seeing the dare of Saudi clubs rented European players with an exorbitant reward of course there is a certain mission. I believe that if the Saudi League team is able to last a long time in recruiting world -class players, the Saudi League will enter the ranks of elite competition in the world. But of course they must be able to prove it by winning the Asian Champions League. If that is realized, we are just waiting for the Qibla football will move to the Arab land.
This year they decided to take their soccer league seriously. Perhaps they looked at their neighbors from the United Arab Emirates, who literally raised Manchester City and PSG to the skies for Arab money, and decided it was better to invest at home. In general, a logical decision, just no one thought that they would act so aggressively.

In addition to the top players they have already signed Steven Gerrard to Al Ittifaq and I think this is just the beginning because good players like Benzema, Mendy, Kante and other players from European leagues need reputable coaches.
If I were the Saudis, I would hire Ancelotti as a very experienced mentor who can give a lot to players, including young Saudi players who are just learning from European players and coaches.

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we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.

I am not sure it will be a concern because the same thing happened in the top league Premier, Serie A and La Liga and the fact is their national team can still compete in several tournaments, indeed the situation is a little different in the Saudi League but overall I think there are more positive impacts. If we check the Al Nassr squad of all the players there are only 4-6 players from other countries the rest are local players. Regarding the mission of the club owner brought European top players, I have explained here even though we don't have data for the accuracy, I think that's the most reasonable reason.


But indeed, recruiting outside players must also be considered because if not, then of course many local Saudi players do not get more playing time. If that happens, then of course their national team will experience a decline in performance, of course it will be a regret at the end if it really happens. Also, we cannot equate the Saudi Professional League with the big leagues in Europe. Because after all, even though for example the English Premier League has many foreign players in their squad but in reality, there are also many local English players who play in other big clubs in Europe. The situation and factors seem to be different in Saudi, because there are not many local Suadi players playing in big clubs out there.

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July 04, 2023, 03:45:28 PM
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we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.

At the moment, it does not even look like a business from afar - such investments will never pay off. This is politics.
Real business is now (in Europe) starting to suffer like never before - more players are leaving and those who stay are logically demanding higher wages as the market has suddenly become very hot.

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July 04, 2023, 04:25:34 PM
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But indeed, recruiting outside players must also be considered because if not, then of course many local Saudi players do not get more playing time. If that happens, then of course their national team will experience a decline in performance, of course it will be a regret at the end if it really happens. Also, we cannot equate the Saudi Professional League with the big leagues in Europe. Because after all, even though for example the English Premier League has many foreign players in their squad but in reality, there are also many local English players who play in other big clubs in Europe. The situation and factors seem to be different in Saudi, because there are not many local Suadi players playing in big clubs out there.

Saudi Professional League has 16 clubs that compete every season so I think there's no way all these clubs will bring in players from other countries besides that, so far only 4 clubs are actively bringing European players this means there is still a place in 12 clubs. Another reason club owner is the local government so if indeed local players need more time to playing they can manage it with the coach I'm sure they have anticipated it, except club owners from other countries maybe he will not care about its impact.

By the way, the latest transfer news is that Al-Ittihad succeeded in bringing Jota from Celtic with a transfer fee of €29 million this fee is 2x more expensive than the market value of around €13 million. Based on the Transfermarkt record, this player joined on July 3 with a contract for 3 seasons, now ittihad has brought 3 players Benzema, Kante and Jota.

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July 04, 2023, 04:48:19 PM
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I don't think it's right for them to spend so much money. If they want to improve the quality of the league and make the name of Saudi Arabia more popular, they should give importance to infrastructure. The ad that comes after giving millions of dollars to players over 30 doesn't make sense. Can you tell me a good football player, a citizen of Saudi Arabia? nothing comes to my mind. I think it makes more sense to have players around the world. Therefore, instead of paying 200 million Euros for 1 year, 200 million Euros can be spent on infrastructure and youth, and they can present great players to the world football market after 10 years.
we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.
Behind the money spent by club owners to bring in quality players from Europe, of course there is reciprocity, this is clearly a profitable business. In addition to the money generated from sponsorships and broadcasting rights, the club can reap significant benefits from increased ticket sales. The arrival of players who are full of experience from Europe has a positive effect on local players who are there, they can develop their quality by learning directly from classy players who join their clubs. Adverse effects may not affect local players too much, they will be more motivated to show their talents in order to continue playing even as substitutes.
This cycle is not only in the Arab league, in other leagues it is also experiencing the same thing. Maybe the rules of the football association there have regulated the number of non-local players that can be played in a match in order to provide opportunities for local players to play.

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July 04, 2023, 04:59:29 PM
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we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.

At the moment, it does not even look like a business from afar - such investments will never pay off. This is politics.
Real business is now (in Europe) starting to suffer like never before - more players are leaving and those who stay are logically demanding higher wages as the market has suddenly become very hot.

I think in a very similar way, also if we think in the globalization itself , and in the football, football isnt fully globalized in terms of distribution of power, on clubs. All its in Europe and this can start to change with USA, Arabia and also China if they want to retake that way.

About Gerrard, i think its not a good step.

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July 04, 2023, 05:43:15 PM
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we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.

At the moment, it does not even look like a business from afar - such investments will never pay off. This is politics.
Real business is now (in Europe) starting to suffer like never before - more players are leaving and those who stay are logically demanding higher wages as the market has suddenly become very hot.

I think in a very similar way, also if we think in the globalization itself , and in the football, football isnt fully globalized in terms of distribution of power, on clubs. All its in Europe and this can start to change with USA, Arabia and also China if they want to retake that way.

About Gerrard, i think its not a good step.
Some English pundits are worried over the market transfer so far, Saudi Arabia clubs are now a threat to very clubs in Europe, from day one when Ronaldo signed for Al Nassr, I knew the Saudi Arabia government must use him to establish the large, his present made a lot of players to consider the league.

The arrived of Nike as AlNassr skips supplier  is a boost to the league, several investment gonna happen, within this period, and by next season, Europe and Saudi Arabia pro league will be the only countries players would like to play in. The Saudi Arabia pro league has come to stay.
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There is the latest news about the popularity of this league which has made Nike, which is one of the biggest apparel brands in the world, finally signed a contract for 1 season with Al-Nassr. Maybe it's clear that this is the effect of Cristiano Ronaldo as Nike's main brand ambassador and it is likely that there will still be other apparel that will be interested in establishing a cooperation contract with other Saudi league teams later.
The Saudi Arabian league has become a big league after Ronaldo went there. Then some European stars also move to, of course, it will be an advantage for sponsors to sell their products. Of course being a sponsor is a big advantage, maybe it will be a new place for other sports producers to enter into sponsorship. Currently only Ittihad wears Nike sponsorship. Puma and Adidas already exist while others seem to wear local jerseys.
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The last transfer of the clubs are with many stars. There are names like Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United to Al-Nassr, Karim Benzema from Real Madrid to Al-Ittihad, Ruben Neves from Wolverhampton Wanderers to Al-Hilal, Kalidou Koulibaly from Chelsea to Al-Hilal, N’Golo Kante from Chelsea to Al-Ittihad, Edouard Mendy from Chelsea to Al-Ahli, Jota from Celtic Glasgow to Al Ittihad and Marcelo Brozovic from Inter Milan to Al-Nassr. And there are many others to come. I thought there would be some surprising players going to America this year, but the move to Saudi Arabia.

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I don't think it's right for them to spend so much money. If they want to improve the quality of the league and make the name of Saudi Arabia more popular, they should give importance to infrastructure. The ad that comes after giving millions of dollars to players over 30 doesn't make sense. Can you tell me a good football player, a citizen of Saudi Arabia? nothing comes to my mind. I think it makes more sense to have players around the world. Therefore, instead of paying 200 million Euros for 1 year, 200 million Euros can be spent on infrastructure and youth, and they can present great players to the world football market after 10 years.
we will not really know what is the reason for the rich club owners in Arab. They bought European players at very high prices. it's a business, yes we know of course it's going to bring in a lot of money in terms of sponsorship and broadcast rights.
I think the arrival of European players there can also build and motivate their young players to compete. but there may be an adverse effect when one team will have 50% of players from Europe. and it makes the opportunity for their local players even less to play.

We can refer to, when Ronaldo was brought in by Al Nassr with a very fantastic salary. after that, there are many top european league players who are willing to play in this competition. So the question is, why should Ronaldo be the first one they brought in? IMO, he is the entry point for other players to glance at this competition. after that, newcomers emerged even though it was dominated by players aged 30+. Isn't this logical, if we refer to the Saudi kingdom having drawn up a strategy beforehand. yes, they say in a lot of news, that the Saudi kingdom is working with the PIF company under the auspices of Prince Mohammed bin Salman to advance football in their country.

The question is, is that their only project? I don't think so, if I have to assume and opinion, they are not as we think just to waste money buying players + fantastic salaries. if I continue with what I was thinking, this could lead to geopolitics and from a business perspective "not just for this type of sport" however, football is an ideal and very logical entry point. referring to what you said, I think otherwise. if they are, the Saudi kingdom has prepared everything from the start. just look at this time, not only 4 clubs hunting top European players. in fact, some mediocre clubs are also trying to bring in other players. for example, Al Fateh was interested and made an offer to Alixis Sanchez. meaning, without us knowing it, other clubs are also enlivening this competition. like the initial goal, they want to get a stage in the eyes of the world. other than that, maybe they will start seriously by creating quality academies. thus, we can be sure that in the next 10-20 years this league will be top. minimal, on the Asian mainland.

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July 04, 2023, 07:44:19 PM
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Top players need top managers to excel. See how well the Norwegian footballer Erling Haaland excelled under the management of Pep Guardiola. Steve Gerrard does not exactly fit the profile of top manager, he refused the deal before to move to Saudi Arabia, but since he has been without a job for a while, I am sure he has been forced to reconsider, also joined that the league is getting attention now more than last three months since they started heavily bringing other professional footballers to the league asides Ronaldo. He has some experience in English football as a player and coach in Aston Villa, and that can be of benefit to the improvement of the game of Al Ettifaq in the Saudi Professional League.

Saudis are splashing money like never before. This is the difference between them and the other Arabs. Qatar Sports Investments invested money in foreign leagues and clubs such as Paris Saint-Germain. The Saudis on the other hand are trying to strengthen the local league by spending money to acquire players and coaching staff. And the results are there for everyone to see. Qatar failed to win a single match during last year's world cup, and the Saudi Professional League is about to become one of the top football leagues globally.

I don't think it's right for them to spend so much money. If they want to improve the quality of the league and make the name of Saudi Arabia more popular, they should give importance to infrastructure. The ad that comes after giving millions of dollars to players over 30 doesn't make sense. Can you tell me a good football player, a citizen of Saudi Arabia? nothing comes to my mind. I think it makes more sense to have players around the world. Therefore, instead of paying 200 million Euros for 1 year, 200 million Euros can be spent on infrastructure and youth, and they can present great players to the world football market after 10 years.

well, if the government of saudi arabia is not bringing players like ronaldo then nothing will ever change, saudi arabia players need to be in contact with great players like ronaldo and benzema and so many others to start putting in a lot of effort and with that also become talented players, for hundreds of years it has always been a consensus that people have the ability to learn things by watching other people do them, no one was born skilled, no one was born with talent and the only way for a player to have great talent is to practice a lot with people who have great talents

when the arab league has many famous coaches and famous foreign players it will make saudi arabia players start to take soccer very seriously too, and with that saudi arabia will also have many good players, we can see that in the portuguese leagues, call1 , bundesliga, premier league, la liga that also has many good foreign players, an example of this is deque messi and from argentina, but he played in barcelona, then in PSG. and i need to do what saudi araba is doing to evolve their league

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July 04, 2023, 07:59:13 PM
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The Saudi Arabian league has become a big league after Ronaldo went there. Then some European stars also move to, of course, it will be an advantage for sponsors to sell their products. Of course being a sponsor is a big advantage, maybe it will be a new place for other sports producers to enter into sponsorship. Currently only Ittihad wears Nike sponsorship. Puma and Adidas already exist while others seem to wear local jerseys.
I think Ronaldo Moving to the Saudi Arabian league and its impact worldwide is the perfect experiment that was successful. Now we see players moving there. Like someone rightly said and I agree to it in every sense of the world, this is simply sportswashing- using popular figures like famous sports men to improve the country's image and divert attention from other issues. If Messi had moved there we would have seen increased attention than it is getting more but they are slowly generating the attention.

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