[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25

[harizen]

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

[stomachgrowls]

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

Trying out to accumulate more bets with that having a huge time frame or gap? This is the only thing that i do have in mind if we do speak about those betting lines are already that available.
We could obviously see up these things specially on known or popular boxers or simply with those huge main event or known ones which it would be understandable that it would be getting that so much attention.
So making those odds and bets to be available could neither be seen on 1-2 months before the fight which its not something new anymore.We've seen several fights on having
this kind of set-up.

[Maslate]

Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight.  Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight.  Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.  

I guess that's somehow expected from Naoya Inoue and his team because even if we say that a few pound difference is somehow nothing and won't matter, we shouldn't forget that Fulton owns this division and is already used to the weight when fighting unlike Inoue where this is his first time in the weight class and is already facing the 2-belt world champion. But still, my vote and money goes for Inoue in this bout. It will be hard to defy him after witnessing his greatness in the previous division.

[Casdinyard]

Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight.  Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight.  Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.  

I guess that's somehow expected from Naoya Inoue and his team because even if we say that a few pound difference is somehow nothing and won't matter, we shouldn't forget that Fulton owns this division and is already used to the weight when fighting unlike Inoue where this is his first time in the weight class and is already facing the 2-belt world champion. But still, my vote and money goes for Inoue in this bout. It will be hard to defy him after witnessing his greatness in the previous division.

Exactly. I think that's a postulate when it comes to fighting a seasoned boxer in a particular weight division. The self-inflicted pressure of keeping up with the people's standards and most of all finding an edge against a fighter who is very confident and comfortable with his weight is going to be a problem. Inoue knows that much. But I believe he'd be able to give us a good fight, if not win the game for himself. Inoue seems to follow Pacquiao's trends, starting small and working his way up to higher weight divisions, but unless he wows me or proves to me that he has the same potential as the Pacman himself, I'm not going to get my hopes up looking for a new pound-for-pound king.

[stadus]

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

And there are even some fights that is already listed on the sports books even if the fight is still under discussion and is not yet official. Has everyone noticed that? When that happens, it makes me think that there's some inside news that only these bookies know because why would they publish it in a much early stage when the fight is still under discussion.

Given that this fight is a championship fight for Inoue and a title defense for Fulton, we can somehow say that this is also a big event especially in Japan where Inoue will be chasing title again inside his own country. Maybe in the middle of next month, we will see some odds regarding this fight.

[goinmerry]

And there are even some fights that is already listed on the sports books even if the fight is still under discussion and is not yet official. Has everyone noticed that? When that happens, it makes me think that there's some inside news that only these bookies know because why would they publish it in a much early stage when the fight is still under discussion.

I second this. It can be mostly found in fiat sportsbooks I believed as I also encounters some before.

And guess what, some of those fights where there is no official announcement even have a date of the fight lol.

Not tried yet betting on those but just wondering if the bet will push through even if there's no made official announcement yet on that specific fight.

[AmoreJaz]

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

Trying out to accumulate more bets with that having a huge time frame or gap? This is the only thing that i do have in mind if we do speak about those betting lines are already that available.
We could obviously see up these things specially on known or popular boxers or simply with those huge main event or known ones which it would be understandable that it would be getting that so much attention.
So making those odds and bets to be available could neither be seen on 1-2 months before the fight which its not something new anymore.We've seen several fights on having
this kind of set-up.

if we will get the official date, for sure bookies will list it even crypto bookies as inoue is a known boxer. they maybe are waiting for the official announcement. for small events, usually a week or few days before the fight. but with inoue, it would be months before the fight. inoue will be the favourite here so maybe bet on other betting lines like if this fight will go the distance or not.

[Kemarit]

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

And there are even some fights that is already listed on the sports books even if the fight is still under discussion and is not yet official. Has everyone noticed that? When that happens, it makes me think that there's some inside news that only these bookies know because why would they publish it in a much early stage when the fight is still under discussion.

Given that this fight is a championship fight for Inoue and a title defense for Fulton, we can somehow say that this is also a big event especially in Japan where Inoue will be chasing title again inside his own country. Maybe in the middle of next month, we will see some odds regarding this fight.

I don't think that they have that inside news, maybe just the same with us, they are all over the news to see what will be the fight ahead and then list it in their  sports book already.

So they can just skipped it or removed it right away if the fight is not going to happen, simply as that.

This fight says April-May in Japan, probably just few things need to be settled in that country before the official announcement of the fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I believe that even if it's already official, the odds will not be available at this early. Usually, the odds are available 1 week before the fight, while on some fights it's a day before the fight, so sorry guys, we cannot bet early on this game.

It's not the most cases. Sometimes there are big matches that are listed early even several months before the fight.

Take the example of the Bantamweight Unification bout between Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler. It was announced if I'm not mistaken around October but bookies, even crypto-sportsbook already listed the fight right away.

If you also look at some listed future boxing matches in some sportsbook, there are matches that are just 1-2 months to go and so. I don't know how's the system behind it but not all fights are only available for betting within a 1 week timeframe or less.

Trying out to accumulate more bets with that having a huge time frame or gap? This is the only thing that i do have in mind if we do speak about those betting lines are already that available.
We could obviously see up these things specially on known or popular boxers or simply with those huge main event or known ones which it would be understandable that it would be getting that so much attention.
So making those odds and bets to be available could neither be seen on 1-2 months before the fight which its not something new anymore.We've seen several fights on having
this kind of set-up.

if we will get the official date, for sure bookies will list it even crypto bookies as inoue is a known boxer. they maybe are waiting for the official announcement. for small events, usually a week or few days before the fight. but with inoue, it would be months before the fight. inoue will be the favourite here so maybe bet on other betting lines like if this fight will go the distance or not.

Yes, but this is Inoue, not a small fighter, his name resonates already even for American boxing fans. So for sure if we will hear when the fight will be, bookies will lay down the odds for us, it could be just the ML in the beginning though. But as we approach the fight night, there could be more options for us specially the odds for a knockout victory.

The initial date that we here for his fight is sometime around April or even May in Japan. Maybe they are just waiting for a good weather there and just few touch ups on the contract itself.

[Russlenat]

The initial date that we here for his fight is sometime around April or even May in Japan. Maybe they are just waiting for a good weather there and just few touch ups on the contract itself.

And as long as we don't hear even a little problem on this fight, we can always assume that it's going to happen. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Bob Arum would like this fight, another belt for his cash cow in case Inoue will win, that way Inoue's popularity will increase which will benefit his promotion.

[Vaculin]

The initial date that we here for his fight is sometime around April or even May in Japan. Maybe they are just waiting for a good weather there and just few touch ups on the contract itself.

And as long as we don't hear even a little problem on this fight, we can always assume that it's going to happen. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Bob Arum would like this fight, another belt for his cash cow in case Inoue will win, that way Inoue's popularity will increase which will benefit his promotion.

So far, we haven't heard some unfortunate news between two camps and that means that their discussion is going smoothly. I know Bob Arum won't insist himself to get his boxer to the A-side because they are just a visitor and a challenger of Fulton's belt and if ever Bob will insist, just if ever, I bet that will be the start of misunderstanding that might result into a promoter's rivalry because Al Haymon will surely appear when that happens. But again, so far so good.

[Silberman]

Without doubt if Fulton could beat Inoue that would be a huge upset and will give Fulton a great deal of the credibility and the respect that he is looking for, however after reading the interview it seems to me that he is too fixated on the fans and who they support, fans like who they like, I am not from the Philippines and yet I never missed a fight of Pacquiao so his arguments ring hollow to me, if he wants to be a superstar then he needs to prove he is one and he has the perfect opportunity against Inoue to do so.

I agree, many boxing fans are expecting that Inoue can knockdown Fulton.  IF Inoue lost against Fulton, Fulton will definitely get a huge respect from the crowds and the thought of Inoue's power will then be takes as limited to the bantamweight only.

Though I am still thinking that Inoue is still at disadvantage here since this is a new division for him and he hasn't tested the waters yet he is scheduled his first fight against a champion.  I think it is too rush for Inoue's camp to fight a champion without testing the power of the super bantamweight boxers.

Inoue is taking a risk, there is little doubt in my mind this is the case, and we have a very recent example with Canelo, Canelo has a huge punching power on his division, but as soon as he moved up and fought against Bivol his punching power became trivial and Bivol dominated him clearly, now I think of Inoue as a better fighter than Canelo so it is likely he can overcome this, so it is a risk to fight a champion right away but even then I still think he can win.

[Maslate]

Without doubt if Fulton could beat Inoue that would be a huge upset and will give Fulton a great deal of the credibility and the respect that he is looking for, however after reading the interview it seems to me that he is too fixated on the fans and who they support, fans like who they like, I am not from the Philippines and yet I never missed a fight of Pacquiao so his arguments ring hollow to me, if he wants to be a superstar then he needs to prove he is one and he has the perfect opportunity against Inoue to do so.

I agree, many boxing fans are expecting that Inoue can knockdown Fulton.  IF Inoue lost against Fulton, Fulton will definitely get a huge respect from the crowds and the thought of Inoue's power will then be takes as limited to the bantamweight only.

Though I am still thinking that Inoue is still at disadvantage here since this is a new division for him and he hasn't tested the waters yet he is scheduled his first fight against a champion.  I think it is too rush for Inoue's camp to fight a champion without testing the power of the super bantamweight boxers.

Inoue is taking a risk, there is little doubt in my mind this is the case, and we have a very recent example with Canelo, Canelo has a huge punching power on his division, but as soon as he moved up and fought against Bivol his punching power became trivial and Bivol dominated him clearly, now I think of Inoue as a better fighter than Canelo so it is likely he can overcome this, so it is a risk to fight a champion right away but even then I still think he can win.

Yes, I understand you mate but that's what boxing is, it's all about risk because even if we're talking about a heavy favorite who's chance to get defeated is slight, it is still not guaranteed that what we thought will always be the outcome just because of the stated fact. Just like this one, Inoue is taking a risk, big risk means big reward but Fulton got more risk as he got more belts to offer while Inoue got none. But unlike Canelo and Bivol, the weight difference between bantam to super-bantam (4 lbs) and super-middle to LHW (7 lbs) is not the same and one more thing, Bivol got the height and reach advantage as Canelo is somewhat smaller against the natural LHWs.

[BitcoinPanther]

Yes, because if we based on the reality, only few boxers with smaller weights are popular, the only one I know is Inoue and he will become more popular because he is moving up on his weight class. This is definitely the kind of journey Manny Pacman had succeeded in the past, that's why he was the only 8th division champion because he started from smaller weights and increase his weight but still dominate the bigger boxers.

Manny Pacquiao could have been a 10 division champion if he didn't skipped 2 division when he decided to go up in weight.  Anyhow, I heard that Inoue is somehow tense about this upcoming fight.  Since this is his first time fighting in the heavier Division and he is worried about his preparation since he doesn't know if his preparation is enough for the fight.  

I think it's just normal for any boxer to move up and weight and not sure what their performance will be, and even how great Inoue is in the lower weight of 118 lbs and unifying is, still this is a new dimension for him.

True, I think Inoue should have not rush the fight for the title, he should have scheduled a tune up fight to have a feel of the power, defense and stamina of the 122 lbs boxer.  By doing that fight, he can have a clear understanding the situation in 122 lbs weight class, and he can have a more effective idea on how to lay his strategy against Fulton.

Inoue though could go as high as 130 lbs, unlike Manny we really reaped everyone when he is climbing in weight as high as 147 lbs and if I'm not mistaken, fought at a super welterweight at a catch weight against Antonio Margarito.

Inoue is still young and possibly can go to heavier class but the question will be the effectiveness of his power.  Since Inoue isn't a normal on those weight classes, he needs time to adjust.

[chaser15]

Inoue is still young and possibly can go to heavier class but the question will be the effectiveness of his power.  Since Inoue isn't a normal on those weight classes, he needs time to adjust.

Slowly but surely he can move up in weight. I think with more years of continuous fighting, he can get to at least Welterweight.

He is already overqualified at the Bantamweight and Super Bantamweight and I think in 1-2 years, he can move up to Featherweight.

But of course, his promoter Bob Arum will have a big influence on that as even Inoue can go up weight, if Arum wants to make it slowly, Inoue will just follow.

[harizen]

True, I think Inoue should have not rush the fight for the title, he should have scheduled a tune up fight to have a feel of the power, defense and stamina of the 122 lbs boxer.  By doing that fight, he can have a clear understanding the situation in 122 lbs weight class, and he can have a more effective idea on how to lay his strategy against Fulton.

Disagree. 118 to 122 doesn't really have a big difference. He is even overqualified in this division. It's totally a waste of time if Naoya Inoue will instead fight another opponent at 122 instead of directly going to a champion.

Don't feel that he's rushing things to get a title because this fight against Fulton is really the best and smartest thing to do for him.

Fulton on the other hand might be at the disadvantage here knowing Inoue's strength and capability.

[goinmerry]

Inoue is taking a risk, there is little doubt in my mind this is the case, and we have a very recent example with Canelo, Canelo has a huge punching power on his division, but as soon as he moved up and fought against Bivol his punching power became trivial and Bivol dominated him clearly, now I think of Inoue as a better fighter than Canelo so it is likely he can overcome this, so it is a risk to fight a champion right away but even then I still think he can win.

Inoue taking a risk? Fulton is even the underdog in this match. Inoue can surely handle Fulton. That Canelo's case is different from Inoue's today, Canelo is pushing for a big difference in the environment when he chooses to fight Dmitry Bivol. Just wait and see how Inoue will beat Fulton and unify all other belts at the Super Bantamweight division.

As we speaks, Inoue as a challenger is still the Favorite to win the match.

[Yamifoud]

Inoue is taking a risk, there is little doubt in my mind this is the case, and we have a very recent example with Canelo, Canelo has a huge punching power on his division, but as soon as he moved up and fought against Bivol his punching power became trivial and Bivol dominated him clearly, now I think of Inoue as a better fighter than Canelo so it is likely he can overcome this, so it is a risk to fight a champion right away but even then I still think he can win.

Inoue taking a risk? Fulton is even the underdog in this match. Inoue can surely handle Fulton. That Canelo's case is different from Inoue's today, Canelo is pushing for a big difference in the environment when he chooses to fight Dmitry Bivol. Just wait and see how Inoue will beat Fulton and unify all other belts at the Super Bantamweight division.

As we speaks, Inoue as a challenger is still the Favorite to win the match.

I believe Canelo was also the favorite when he fought Bivol, but it turns out he was well dominated by the speed and size of a champion. Maybe this fight is quite different as Inoue is the heavy favorite, and I think Inoue is very much comfortable with the new weight class.

[Oasisman]

Inoue is taking a risk, there is little doubt in my mind this is the case, and we have a very recent example with Canelo, Canelo has a huge punching power on his division, but as soon as he moved up and fought against Bivol his punching power became trivial and Bivol dominated him clearly, now I think of Inoue as a better fighter than Canelo so it is likely he can overcome this, so it is a risk to fight a champion right away but even then I still think he can win.

Inoue taking a risk? Fulton is even the underdog in this match. Inoue can surely handle Fulton. That Canelo's case is different from Inoue's today, Canelo is pushing for a big difference in the environment when he chooses to fight Dmitry Bivol. Just wait and see how Inoue will beat Fulton and unify all other belts at the Super Bantamweight division.

As we speaks, Inoue as a challenger is still the Favorite to win the match.

I believe Canelo was also the favorite when he fought Bivol, but it turns out he was well dominated by the speed and size of a champion. Maybe this fight is quite different as Inoue is the heavy favorite, and I think Inoue is very much comfortable with the new weight class.

Yes, he was. However, Inoue and Canelo are completely a different fighter. So, different fighter, different weight class, and definitely will have different outcome.
In this match, Inoue will surely going to be heavily favoured than Canelo had when he fought Bivol.
I am one of those who admire Inoue, as he is a complete fighter. Not underestimating his opponent, but more of believing what Inoue is capable of.

[mirakal]

Inoue is taking a risk, there is little doubt in my mind this is the case, and we have a very recent example with Canelo, Canelo has a huge punching power on his division, but as soon as he moved up and fought against Bivol his punching power became trivial and Bivol dominated him clearly, now I think of Inoue as a better fighter than Canelo so it is likely he can overcome this, so it is a risk to fight a champion right away but even then I still think he can win.

Inoue taking a risk? Fulton is even the underdog in this match. Inoue can surely handle Fulton. That Canelo's case is different from Inoue's today, Canelo is pushing for a big difference in the environment when he chooses to fight Dmitry Bivol. Just wait and see how Inoue will beat Fulton and unify all other belts at the Super Bantamweight division.

As we speaks, Inoue as a challenger is still the Favorite to win the match.

I believe Canelo was also the favorite when he fought Bivol, but it turns out he was well dominated by the speed and size of a champion. Maybe this fight is quite different as Inoue is the heavy favorite, and I think Inoue is very much comfortable with the new weight class.

Yes, he was. However, Inoue and Canelo are completely a different fighter. So, different fighter, different weight class, and definitely will have different outcome.
In this match, Inoue will surely going to be heavily favoured than Canelo had when he fought Bivol.
I am one of those who admire Inoue, as he is a complete fighter. Not underestimating his opponent, but more of believing what Inoue is capable of.

Actually, it was Canelo who has the heavy favorites compared to Inoue because he is only a slight favorites against Foltun.

Based on these articles.

Caesars Sportsbook list Alvarez as a -550 favorite (risk $550 to win $100), while Bivol is going off at +400 in the latest Canelo vs. Bivol odds.

source.

Naoya Inoue   -244
Foltun +205
https://oddspedia.com/boxing/naoya-inoue-stephen-fulton-1088754

It's just that Inoue's fight is the latest that we forget the old fights of Canelo already. At the end of the day, we still don't know who will win despite a fighter is a heavy favorite.