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March 03, 2023, 12:19:26 PM
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
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March 03, 2023, 02:09:36 PM
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Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
Well, he did too great to be able to climb that ladder and be the favorite. I am just glad that Fulton didn't even flinch with the challenge, he may also like to see how far this guy could reach after dominating the lower weight class. Indeed, all credit to him. His camp could just ignore him and wait until he beat some guys in the higher ranks before taking them and yet they accepted it as soon as he came up.

That makes me worry about betting for Inoue here. Fulton's confidence is too high like he is damn sure he can win this match. We will see.

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March 03, 2023, 02:45:31 PM
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Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
Well, he did too great to be able to climb that ladder and be the favorite. I am just glad that Fulton didn't even flinch with the challenge, he may also like to see how far this guy could reach after dominating the lower weight class. Indeed, all credit to him. His camp could just ignore him and wait until he beat some guys in the higher ranks before taking them and yet they accepted it as soon as he came up.

That makes me worry about betting for Inoue here. Fulton's confidence is too high like he is damn sure he can win this match. We will see.


A fighter's heart as for my take in how Fulton accepts the challenge, though we know that Inoue can make an upset even he's a challenger here. His former division is not by far from this new one.

Maybe Fulton's confidence was high since he's the current champ and like what you said, he's not just a champ
doing nothing, but he climbs up because he showcases his skills and dominates all those past opponents.
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March 03, 2023, 09:02:50 PM
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

That was the olympics, right? Surely, the Japan didn't anticipated that one and they aren't the only ones who judged the fight, so what happened back at the day especially when it's already decades away is actually different from what we have now. We are now in the modern times where cheating might be easy but it's hard to get past by it especially if there's so many eyes watching.

I know that there are some Fulton fans that are worried by that same incident that might happen again, but folks, Inoue doesn't need any help nor will tolerate any help from the judges.

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March 03, 2023, 09:18:56 PM
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
This is where should Fulton be showing on whose the champion on that division and would definitely earn that respect but lets see if Inoue would be easily snatched out those belts and would really be having
that domination but he couldn't really just that too confident because Fulton wouldnt surely be giving up the belt easily and this is something that really interesting to see or look
at considering that Inoue had stepped up on the ladder and trying out to test his power on higher weight divisions.It wont really be that simple i guess just as usual
but knowing "the monster" then for sure he wont disappoint.

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March 03, 2023, 10:15:07 PM
 #366

This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.
This is where should Fulton be showing on whose the champion on that division and would definitely earn that respect but lets see if Inoue would be easily snatched out those belts and would really be having
that domination but he couldn't really just that too confident because Fulton wouldnt surely be giving up the belt easily and this is something that really interesting to see or look
at considering that Inoue had stepped up on the ladder and trying out to test his power on higher weight divisions.It wont really be that simple i guess just as usual
but knowing "the monster" then for sure he wont disappoint.

That's mainly the reason why this fight attracts a lot of attention in the whole boxing industry because apart from seeing Inoue's journey in this new weight class, this is also about Fulton's title defense against a boxer who is touted to be a monster just like what his nickname shows. Even us, right? We can't really let this slide because both mentioned boxers do have a decent chance and capabilities to knock down each other. That said, I think this fight will go down to who will crumble first and who can weather all the vicious punches.

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March 03, 2023, 11:02:30 PM
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

That was the olympics, right? Surely, the Japan didn't anticipated that one and they aren't the only ones who judged the fight, so what happened back at the day especially when it's already decades away is actually different from what we have now. We are now in the modern times where cheating might be easy but it's hard to get past by it especially if there's so many eyes watching.

I know that there are some Fulton fans that are worried by that same incident that might happen again, but folks, Inoue doesn't need any help nor will tolerate any help from the judges.

not only eyes from the boxing fans, but basically anyone can get a video now with the fight and they can always re-play it to investigate if there was indeed cheating. the technology and social media nowadays are more sophisticated. also, as japanese people are known to be honest people, i don't think they will go to that route of cheating. so am pretty confident about this fight. fulton should not worry about the cheating aspect.

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March 03, 2023, 11:15:04 PM
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also, as japanese people are known to be honest people, i don't think they will go to that route of cheating. so am pretty confident about this fight. fulton should not worry about the cheating aspect.
I will argue with this, there are lots of recorded fights against japanese boxer on their hometown that was cheated either by japanese referee intervention stoping the fight even though the other fighter can still fight. Or by the judges score. That's why KO is always needed for someone to win versus a japanese fighter fighting in Japan. Just example the previous fight of casimero, although later on it was fixed.

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March 03, 2023, 11:59:09 PM
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also, as japanese people are known to be honest people, i don't think they will go to that route of cheating. so am pretty confident about this fight. fulton should not worry about the cheating aspect.
I will argue with this, there are lots of recorded fights against japanese boxer on their hometown that was cheated either by japanese referee intervention stoping the fight even though the other fighter can still fight. Or by the judges score. That's why KO is always needed for someone to win versus a japanese fighter fighting in Japan. Just example the previous fight of casimero, although later on it was fixed.

Can we just talk about that if we see cheating being happened on this fight?

It's more making sense to discuss the technical side of this fight like analysis from both and recent news involving the fight.

Going back to topic, still no official date being announced but I'm sure we will get that information later on.

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March 03, 2023, 11:59:24 PM
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This is where should Fulton be showing on whose the champion on that division and would definitely earn that respect but lets see if Inoue would be easily snatched out those belts and would really be having
that domination but he couldn't really just that too confident because Fulton wouldnt surely be giving up the belt easily and this is something that really interesting to see or look
at considering that Inoue had stepped up on the ladder and trying out to test his power on higher weight divisions.It wont really be that simple i guess just as usual
but knowing "the monster" then for sure he wont disappoint.

That's mainly the reason why this fight attracts a lot of attention in the whole boxing industry because apart from seeing Inoue's journey in this new weight class, this is also about Fulton's title defense against a boxer who is touted to be a monster just like what his nickname shows. Even us, right? We can't really let this slide because both mentioned boxers do have a decent chance and capabilities to knock down each other. That said, I think this fight will go down to who will crumble first and who can weather all the vicious punches.
If this one would end up on toe to toe kind of fight then basing up on physique then i would really be seeing Fulton would be better but seeing Inoue's body on his recent fight against Butler which i could say

that he could able to match it up too.This is more interesting if the fight wont really be involving much clinching or running just like on what Butler did which is really that disappointing.

Hope we could see a belt to belt fight without involving of having running all around.Lots of people been liking to see for Inoue to dominate this new weight division.

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March 03, 2023, 11:59:32 PM
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Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

The situation just got into a timing. If Inoue didn't move up, Fulton is about to make a move in the 126 lbs. But since it's timing that Inoue moved up and Fulton is still the champion, he needs to finish some tasks first before moving forward to avoid any regrets in his career.

It's good no ducking happened, thanks to their respective promoters that even a business competitors, they grant what the boxing fans and not involved any business drama like what happened to the supposed Donaire vs Moloney bout that got cancelled.
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March 04, 2023, 01:23:34 AM
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Can we just talk about that if we see cheating being happened on this fight?

It's more making sense to discuss the technical side of this fight like analysis from both and recent news involving the fight.

Going back to topic, still no official date being announced but I'm sure we will get that information later on.
Apologize getting off topic, this is just to reply and debunk the quoted boxing myth.

Back to topic, i expect this fight will be in US not in Japan, as the current title holder Stephen needs more recognition than that, but still respect to their team for accepting such offer to fight in the challenger's hometown.

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March 04, 2023, 08:00:57 AM
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This is why its unlikely that there would be some unjustifiable counts of punches landed and missed out on this one.Lets just see on whose better inside the ring
between these two.

Let's forget that speculation of cheating and anything else. I doubt that will happen in this fight.

Naoya Inoue surely is pissed if something like that happened where the clear winner of the fight won't be the announced winner.

It will also ruin the market of the boxing industry in Japan if such big fights will be associated with cheating.

There will be no cheating speculation in this fight because it will not be decided by the judges. I'm pretty sure one of them will win via KO, but I have doubts it will be Fulton since Inoue has been eliminating boxers that he fought, and I think he will be more aggressive against a champion.

Yes, Inoue has been steam rolling everyone at 118 lbs, and since he has move up to super bantamweight, champion like Fulton is waiting for him. So give credit for Fulton here, he might be really confident and thinks that he need to beat Inoue, and gain the respect.

For Inoue's climbing up, yes, it might not be so difficult for him after all. And it just happen that he will go against one of the best champion in this division, nevertheless, he will be still be the favorite against the American.

When an Asian fighter is favored against an American, it typically means the fighter is really good. Given that Foltun is the champion, he should be the favorite, but due to Inoue's dominance in the bantamweight division, many people think it's just another day in the office for Inoue. They believe he will do his usual thing, which is to dominate the fight and knock out his opponent.

We are about to witness another historic fight since this will be Inoue's first fight in the super bantamweight division. If he beats the champion with an impressive win, the hype surrounding him will only grow stronger.

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March 04, 2023, 10:27:18 AM
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I remember when Inoue turned pro, he was hyped a lot in Japan. The kid refused to continue as an amateur after failing to qualify in the Olympics and went to pro. He picked a Ph national champion with a decent record and I thought about how he dared an experienced pro on his debut. I was hoping Inoue will lose. We'll then, Inoue stopped his foe in his debut and after just 3 wins, he dared to face future world champion Taguchi and won. The rest is history, after 5 wins he fought for a world title, becoming the fastest Japanese to become a world champion and breaking the record of the current 115 champion, Kazuto Ioka.

Now there is no stopping for Inoue's ambitions as he wants to become a 4-division world champion and this time in order to match Ioka's 4-division championship again, the most in Japanese boxing. We will see if Fulton allows that to happen.

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I remember when Inoue turned pro, he was hyped a lot in Japan. The kid refused to continue as an amateur after failing to qualify in the Olympics and went to pro. He picked a Ph national champion with a decent record and I thought about how he dared an experienced pro on his debut. I was hoping Inoue will lose. We'll then, Inoue stopped his foe in his debut and after just 3 wins, he dared to face future world champion Taguchi and won. The rest is history, after 5 wins he fought for a world title, becoming the fastest Japanese to become a world champion and breaking the record of the current 115 champion, Kazuto Ioka.

Now there is no stopping for Inoue's ambitions as he wants to become a 4-division world champion and this time in order to match Ioka's 4-division championship again, the most in Japanese boxing. We will see if Fulton allows that to happen.

It's a long way to go for Inoue to become Japan's next 4 division world champion and be probably in the category of 5 division world champ with Naoko Fujioka, sixth world might be a stretch for him, but we will see.

And he has a good chance against Fulton here, it might be his biggest test so far, but with the way Inoue is improving and we might not see his prime years yet, he might achieved that feat and tie Ioka's record for a Japanese boxer.

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I remember when Inoue turned pro, he was hyped a lot in Japan. The kid refused to continue as an amateur after failing to qualify in the Olympics and went to pro. He picked a Ph national champion with a decent record and I thought about how he dared an experienced pro on his debut. I was hoping Inoue will lose. We'll then, Inoue stopped his foe in his debut and after just 3 wins, he dared to face future world champion Taguchi and won. The rest is history, after 5 wins he fought for a world title, becoming the fastest Japanese to become a world champion and breaking the record of the current 115 champion, Kazuto Ioka.

Now there is no stopping for Inoue's ambitions as he wants to become a 4-division world champion and this time in order to match Ioka's 4-division championship again, the most in Japanese boxing. We will see if Fulton allows that to happen.

It's a long way to go for Inoue to become Japan's next 4 division world champion and be probably in the category of 5 division world champ with Naoko Fujioka, sixth world might be a stretch for him, but we will see.

And he has a good chance against Fulton here, it might be his biggest test so far, but with the way Inoue is improving and we might not see his prime years yet, he might achieved that feat and tie Ioka's record for a Japanese boxer.

He is still in his prime, so I don't want to limit the possibility of him achieving more success in the future. In my opinion, Inoue is an extraordinary fighter. He is a heavy hitter, just like Manny Pacquiao. If he can take care of his body and conditioning, he will most likely still be a great boxer even if he goes up to challenge the big fighters in higher divisions.

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Back to topic, i expect this fight will be in US not in Japan, as the current title holder Stephen needs more recognition than that, but still respect to their team for accepting such offer to fight in the challenger's hometown.

The first time Fulton will fight in Japan and seems he doesn't bother anyway which is good.

Some critics throw words at Inoue on not fighting outside Japan not realizing that he's not even in charge of where the fight should happen and Japan no doubt does have a big market in the boxing industry which is also considered a good event place for a big title fight.

Regardless, I'm sure the home arena is not a big deal and Fulton will just fight with the same approach to every of his fight.

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He is still in his prime, so I don't want to limit the possibility of him achieving more success in the future. In my opinion, Inoue is an extraordinary fighter. He is a heavy hitter, just like Manny Pacquiao. If he can take care of his body and conditioning, he will most likely still be a great boxer even if he goes up to challenge the big fighters in higher divisions.

It's a good test that we will see Naoya Inoue fighting a much caliber fighter. After being the most dominant at 118, no one can even be close to him in that division. At 122, we want to see if Inoue will also have the same journey as 118, and 122 doesn't really have much of that difference.

If he beats Fulton, let's expect that instead of a title defense, a unification match is probably the next thing that can happen to him.

If fortunate things continue to happen to Inoue, he can go up to Super Featherweight (130) or even up to Lightweight (135).
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I remember when Inoue turned pro, he was hyped a lot in Japan. The kid refused to continue as an amateur after failing to qualify in the Olympics and went to pro. He picked a Ph national champion with a decent record and I thought about how he dared an experienced pro on his debut. I was hoping Inoue will lose. We'll then, Inoue stopped his foe in his debut and after just 3 wins, he dared to face future world champion Taguchi and won. The rest is history, after 5 wins he fought for a world title, becoming the fastest Japanese to become a world champion and breaking the record of the current 115 champion, Kazuto Ioka.

Now there is no stopping for Inoue's ambitions as he wants to become a 4-division world champion and this time in order to match Ioka's 4-division championship again, the most in Japanese boxing. We will see if Fulton allows that to happen.

It's a long way to go for Inoue to become Japan's next 4 division world champion and be probably in the category of 5 division world champ with Naoko Fujioka, sixth world might be a stretch for him, but we will see.

And he has a good chance against Fulton here, it might be his biggest test so far, but with the way Inoue is improving and we might not see his prime years yet, he might achieved that feat and tie Ioka's record for a Japanese boxer.

He is still in his prime, so I don't want to limit the possibility of him achieving more success in the future. In my opinion, Inoue is an extraordinary fighter. He is a heavy hitter, just like Manny Pacquiao. If he can take care of his body and conditioning, he will most likely still be a great boxer even if he goes up to challenge the big fighters in higher divisions.

That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

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Back to topic, i expect this fight will be in US not in Japan, as the current title holder Stephen needs more recognition than that, but still respect to their team for accepting such offer to fight in the challenger's hometown.

The first time Fulton will fight in Japan and seems he doesn't bother anyway which is good.

Yes, he embrace that challenge that only few fighters wanted to go that route. To go to Japan and face their best boxer right now in Inoue. So he is unfazed with it, and just think of it as a big test on him mentally.

Some critics throw words at Inoue on not fighting outside Japan not realizing that he's not even in charge of where the fight should happen and Japan no doubt does have a big market in the boxing industry which is also considered a good event place for a big title fight.

Regardless, I'm sure the home arena is not a big deal and Fulton will just fight with the same approach to every of his fight.

You're right, there are a lot of Japanese promoters as well not just in boxing but in other combat sports. That's why they even stages New Year fight with Rizin and they were able to lure Floyd and Manny to fight on such exhibition fights.

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