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The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.
I think Inoue doesn't have an attitude of thinking he has the advantage. Even though his previous opponents are tagged as an underdog, he always takes those seriously without thinking he has the advantage over them. The same goes for fighting Fultin, Inoue will just do what he really is in the boxing ring. The excitement is much stronger since from defending titles he used to, Inoue will now be a challenger. Correct that we will only see who will be the much better fighter at the day of the fight.
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March 10, 2023, 09:16:47 PM |
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The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.
I think Inoue doesn't have an attitude of thinking he has the advantage. Even though his previous opponents are tagged as an underdog, he always takes those seriously without thinking he has the advantage over them. The same goes for fighting Fultin, Inoue will just do what he really is in the boxing ring. The excitement is much stronger since from defending titles he used to, Inoue will now be a challenger. Correct that we will only see who will be the much better fighter at the day of the fight. Yes, and this kind of attitude and mentality of some of the best boxers we have, they are not thinking of any advantage instead, they are going to see the fight just like any regular fight. They will have to train very hard and then try to go with their strategy. So both of this boxers have that kind of attitude except that only one will have to win this fight. And most likely it will be Inoue because of the big difference - he has that heavy hands that almost knockout all of his previous opponents.
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March 10, 2023, 11:59:17 PM |
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The advantage depends on how each boxer sees it. Inoue might be thinking that he has the advantage, but Fulton could also believe the same. We will only know who is better once they fight. However, based on the betting odds, Inoue is highly favored to win. Therefore, we can give him the overall advantage to win.
I think Inoue doesn't have an attitude of thinking he has the advantage. Even though his previous opponents are tagged as an underdog, he always takes those seriously without thinking he has the advantage over them. The same goes for fighting Fultin, Inoue will just do what he really is in the boxing ring. The excitement is much stronger since from defending titles he used to, Inoue will now be a challenger. Correct that we will only see who will be the much better fighter at the day of the fight. Yes, and this kind of attitude and mentality of some of the best boxers we have, they are not thinking of any advantage instead, they are going to see the fight just like any regular fight. They will have to train very hard and then try to go with their strategy. So both of this boxers have that kind of attitude except that only one will have to win this fight. And most likely it will be Inoue because of the big difference - he has that heavy hands that almost knockout all of his previous opponents. We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment. Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.
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March 11, 2023, 12:01:50 PM |
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We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment. Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.
Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe.
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March 11, 2023, 12:20:55 PM |
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We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment. Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.
Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe. I agree, the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight is very slim, and since Inoue is a natural bantamweight, it's his first time moving up, so there should be no significant problems. I'm sure he can manage any minor issues and be 100% fit once the fight is scheduled.
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For us boxing fans, this is a great year because best of the best boxers in the world will have a match in this current year. There are 6 great fighters that will fight to become best of the best in their division and these boxers are Stephen Fulton Vs Naoya Inoue, Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia and David Benavidez vs Caleb Plant. I'm still waiting to see a deal between Crawford vs Spence. I hope that there will be a deal this year and many boxing fans will be happy if it will happen.
Anyway between Inoue and Fulton, I'll pick Inoue even if he will increase his weight. People think that moving in weight class doesn't affect things but I know that there will some effect to Inoe but still I'm sure that he can adapt the change and he can overcome that only problem. I saw them both training very hard and I hope that both of them will give a fight that will satisfy the audience and the fans.
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It's because these days, influence and politics inside the industry became a big hurdle before a fight could even have a discussion. Top Rank, DAZN, PBC and even Probellum is not giving any chance for a fight to happen if they are not going to organize it, it might happen though but it will be a long shot and probably, could take much a lot of time rather than discussing directly. Unlike what we have back in the day where entertainment is the priority because these promoters and boxers are nothing if nobody is supporting them.
SO much politics inside and this is the main reason on why there are interesting fights or bouts of certain boxers cant really happen due to this reason on where promoters are the ones who would really be making the final decision whether the fight would be pushing through or not.News could really be that early but assurance that it would happen is never been guaranteed since anytime it could really be postponed or sudden withdrawal or something like that.It isnt something new if we do speak about related to this. If ever a certain fight is already that final or set out date then its good but im not anticipating unless it is really that nearly approaching. Yes, that is the trouble of the boxing industry these days because promoters are too greedy making their own fight rather than giving the people the entertainment they wanted. To think, it's quite simple, for those boxers who got more to lose then it's expected that they should be favored in the table and have the bigger slice of the purse but even that easy is not enough to make the fight. What we can do right now is to speculate some of the expected fight while also waiting for the final announcement whether the fight will push through or not.
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March 11, 2023, 06:57:22 PM |
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We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment. Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.
Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe. I agree, the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight is very slim, and since Inoue is a natural bantamweight, it's his first time moving up, so there should be no significant problems. I'm sure he can manage any minor issues and be 100% fit once the fight is scheduled. It's just 4 pounds to be exact and I reckon that the weight difference is the least of their problem for now because if that is the case then I bet we are already hearing some news about it. There's two ways, first is he might add to his weight to become more buffed and there's no need to add because 122 is his original and natural weight. Frankly that's one the reasons why Inoue had to leave 118 because knew that the time will come where Inoue is not anymore fitting at 118.
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March 11, 2023, 07:20:12 PM |
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We cant really make out some conclusive approach that Inoue does have a huge advantage on here, we should really be thinking that this is a different weight division which means that it is really that different but we know that changes in weight isnt really that much of an issue since it is really that impossible that Inoue wont really be making out some adjustment. Both camps wont really be that confident considering that there's too much hype on this fight considering that Inoue is the favorite.
Not much adjustment is needed for Inoue here as he doesn't increase in weight a lot, and I'm pretty sure he's still comfortable with the super bantamweight division. Maybe in a higher weight division we should be concerned, but not here. It's just peanuts for Inoue, as his power is going to destroy Fulton if he wants to prove that he can beat Inoue and will go toe-to-toe. I agree, the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight is very slim, and since Inoue is a natural bantamweight, it's his first time moving up, so there should be no significant problems. I'm sure he can manage any minor issues and be 100% fit once the fight is scheduled. It's just 4 pounds to be exact and I reckon that the weight difference is the least of their problem for now because if that is the case then I bet we are already hearing some news about it. There's two ways, first is he might add to his weight to become more buffed and there's no need to add because 122 is his original and natural weight. Frankly that's one the reasons why Inoue had to leave 118 because knew that the time will come where Inoue is not anymore fitting at 118. Well it can be muscle mass or just water weight, all Inoue will do is drink water and that's it, won't be a problem for him making weight. And with that it will be his advantage to be real, as there will be no problems on his side making 122 lbs. And then once he is fully rehydrated, all the leverage and power will be in full display here. So no need to be concern on his weight at super bantamweight.
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March 11, 2023, 07:57:10 PM |
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Yes, that is the trouble of the boxing industry these days because promoters are too greedy making their own fight rather than giving the people the entertainment they wanted. To think, it's quite simple, for those boxers who got more to lose then it's expected that they should be favored in the table and have the bigger slice of the purse but even that easy is not enough to make the fight. In fairness though, these big promoters are the reason why some mega-big bouts also happened. Without their strong influence and expertise in the boxing market industry, they can't organize big fights. At some point though, They are also the reason why some popular boxers today reach the stage of being the highest-paid boxer and always in a title match. Since business is associated with building a legacy of a boxer, we can't just expect our desired fight to just happened and be organized that easily. We don't like some of the promoter's actions but let's face it, nothing we can do about it.
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March 11, 2023, 09:01:07 PM |
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Yes, that is the trouble of the boxing industry these days because promoters are too greedy making their own fight rather than giving the people the entertainment they wanted. To think, it's quite simple, for those boxers who got more to lose then it's expected that they should be favored in the table and have the bigger slice of the purse but even that easy is not enough to make the fight. In fairness though, these big promoters are the reason why some mega-big bouts also happened. Without their strong influence and expertise in the boxing market industry, they can't organize big fights. At some point though, They are also the reason why some popular boxers today reach the stage of being the highest-paid boxer and always in a title match. Since business is associated with building a legacy of a boxer, we can't just expect our desired fight to just happened and be organized that easily. We don't like some of the promoter's actions but let's face it, nothing we can do about it. I agree, there's exactly nothing we can do about it. What we can do is to support the fights that they organize and if these fights are not interested enough to get our support then it's better for us not to watch it and just prefer to be updated later on if what happened as almost everything will be connected especially in the future fights. It might be a huge disappointment to us fans that we haven't got the chance to see the Crawford-Spence fight, at least they are still doing their part to make the other fights happen for us to enjoy. Like this fight, we are all expecting this to happen and fortunately, Al Haymon didn't interfere as Fulton is his cow.
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It might be a huge disappointment to us fans that we haven't got the chance to see the Crawford-Spence fight, at least they are still doing their part to make the other fights happen for us to enjoy. Like this fight, we are all expecting this to happen and fortunately, Al Haymon didn't interfere as Fulton is his cow. And one of the said reasons why the Crawford-Spence fight didn't materialize is that Crawford was a free agent and don't have a big promoter company that will handle business and negotiations against the big promotional company that Spence is currently under contract. Sad to see Crawford end up fighting against not that ranked boxers just to keep him active in the ring after being parted with the Top Rank Promotions. Here in Fulton vs Inoue fight, it's good to see that this fight was organized and boxing politics did not take place between the 2 big promoters.
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March 11, 2023, 09:52:28 PM |
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I agree, there's exactly nothing we can do about it. What we can do is to support the fights that they organize and if these fights are not interested enough to get our support then it's better for us not to watch it
It's not that promoters are the only ones to blame why we see failed negotiations of some of the most failed anticipated fights that are being looked forward to witness by most boxing fans. Sometimes, the boxer themselves is doing a clear ducking and will just consider fighting depending on what they think is the right time. Lots of expected fights already were expected to happen during the peak but just happened later on which is not totally exciting anymore. Notable examples are, Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Canelo vs GGG trilogy, Crawford vs Spence, and many more.
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I agree, there's exactly nothing we can do about it. What we can do is to support the fights that they organize and if these fights are not interested enough to get our support then it's better for us not to watch it
It's not that promoters are the only ones to blame why we see failed negotiations of some of the most failed anticipated fights that are being looked forward to witness by most boxing fans. Sometimes, the boxer themselves is doing a clear ducking and will just consider fighting depending on what they think is the right time. Lots of expected fights already were expected to happen during the peak but just happened later on which is not totally exciting anymore. Notable examples are, Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Canelo vs GGG trilogy, Crawford vs Spence, and many more. No one is to blame here. In order for a fight to be realized, both parties and the promoters must agree to the terms and conditions. If one party does not agree, then the fight is not going to happen. That is why there is a contract that they must follow. Also, since their negotiations are confidential, if we blame someone, we are just speculating.
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Thank you, @Ziskinberg, for updating us on the schedule of the upcoming fight. Now that we have a confirmed date, we can mark our calendars and make sure not to miss it. While the betting odds may be in favor of Inoue, do any of you believe we will see a major upset?
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March 12, 2023, 09:31:11 PM |
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Thank you, @Ziskinberg, for updating us on the schedule of the upcoming fight. Now that we have a confirmed date, we can mark our calendars and make sure not to miss it. While the betting odds may be in favor of Inoue, do any of you believe we will see a major upset?
I never rule out an upset provided that the one that upset the favorite guy has a 50 to 60% knock-out ratio, Fulton's KOs ratio is 38.1% and against a guy who eats up power punches from the likes of Donaire the probability is just too low, he can be fast and had a lot of punch combination and movement in the ring but once Inoue invested on the stomach that will be the start of the end. Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.
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Thank you, @Ziskinberg, for updating us on the schedule of the upcoming fight. Now that we have a confirmed date, we can mark our calendars and make sure not to miss it. While the betting odds may be in favor of Inoue, do any of you believe we will see a major upset?
2 pages back, @inthelongrun has posted the official date already, and the OP has acknowledge it but perhaps to just update the title of the thread. As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs. He just tear up that division, knockout Donaire and then gets the last of the belt against Butler with another knockout win as well. This might be a new division for him, but it just just 4 lbs of his last weight class so we don't see any problem and on the contrary, it might help him a lot because he doesn't have to weight drain himself trying to make the weight. And it will be in his native Japan, so Fulton will have to travel and put his belt on the line against the Monster, which could be a difficult task. And so far the odds are per Stake: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGv2sk9S.png&t=665&c=BXg9YWYzGJ_H4A)
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March 12, 2023, 11:57:49 PM |
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Fulton will be the luckiest guy on this planet if he can upset Inoue I doubt if it will be by knockout.
A big recognition indeed for Stephen Fulton if he managed to beat Naoya Inoue. But I won't call it an upset but rather just a win on usual. Fulton might be the underdog but I'm sure he will give Inoue a tough fight in his career.
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March 12, 2023, 11:59:48 PM Last edit: March 13, 2023, 12:54:29 AM by chaser15 |
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As far as upsets, Fulton is the champion and a live dog, so it's possible, but it's unlikely to happen because of what we have seen on Inoue in his last couple of fights in 118 lbs. I think Stephen Fulton is the only boxer as a dominant champion that Naoya Inoue will face for the first time in his career. Most of the time, Inoue defends his belts but this time he's the challenger. It's been also always a rare situation when we see a challenger as a Favorite and that's how strong Inoue is. Fulton even as a champion is facing a tough wall to destroy. Can't wait to see them settling the score in the ring.
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