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Author Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25  (Read 7007 times)
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March 15, 2023, 11:54:58 PM
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Nah, I'm going to pass on that one. It's not that I'm disrespecting Fulton nor underestimating him, it's just that it is truly hard to bet against the Naoya Inoue who is touted as the monster himself just like his alias. Fulton might be fine as a comb at 122 but I cannot stand betting against the favorite in this case, it will be a profitable wager for sure if it turns out that the champion successfully defended his belt but that is a big if for now as I know Inoue will always evolve into a much stronger monster if he will face a competitive and strong boxers. For comparison, look at Inoue before and after his 1st fight against Donaire.
I agree. I am also hesitant to bet for the champion here and that's not because I am underestimating him, it's just that Naoya Inoue can be explosive especially now with his new goal to dominate the new weight class.
Plus, it's not like he leaped on higher heights, he just went upward one weight away which could be perfect for his body build. I mean, this could be the weight class where he perfectly fits and won't have any trouble when the weigh-ins happen.
So, he is comfortable and in condition. This is the formula for a boxer to win a fight, especially for a boxer who had gained a lot of experience fighting strong ones in his past fights.
Even if they will give an amount that is difficult to resist for Fulton, I won't take it.

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March 16, 2023, 03:11:06 AM
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If he will manage to take this one away from the monster, it is surely a good start to move up and
challenge the current champ on his chosen division.

Actually, I want to see Stephen Fulton having a rematch with a much-improved Brandon Figueroa in the 126 after this match against Naoya Inoue. I'm sure Fulton won't bother to stay at 122 anymore regardless of the result of this match as that was already his original plan and it's just timing that Inoue decided to move up.

I also think Fulton is not considering having possibility of a unification match against his fellow title holder at 122 lbs, Murodjon Akhmadaliev which has a scheduled title defense against a Filipino, Marlon Tapales next month. He is surely want to moved up weight no matter what.

Can't wait to see the result of this match and how it will change the current phase of the Super Bantamweight division.

If Stephen Fulton loses against Naoya Inoue, it might not be good timing for him because Figueroa won recently vs. Mark Magsayo for the WBC featherweight interim championship. Fulton should win 1 fight in featherweight before he can argue for a challenge against Figueroa.

Has anyone created a thread for Murodjon Akhmadaliev vs. Marlon Tapales already? We should watch this next fight of Inoue's next opponent after Fulton hehehe.

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March 16, 2023, 05:58:53 AM
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If Stephen Fulton loses against Naoya Inoue, it might not be good timing for him because Figueroa won recently vs. Mark Magsayo for the WBC featherweight interim championship. Fulton should win 1 fight in featherweight before he can argue for a challenge against Figueroa.

Has anyone created a thread for Murodjon Akhmadaliev vs. Marlon Tapales already? We should watch this next fight of Inoue's next opponent after Fulton hehehe.
There's no problem if Fulton lose in this fight, many people will not argue if there's a rematch Fulton vs Figueroa because Fulton have beat Figueroa on the last match, it's different if Figueroa was won, a rematch it's needed to see if Fulton win was a fluke or not.

AFAIK I don't see anyone creating a thread for Murodjon Akhmadaliev vs. Marlon Tapales, but since Tapales is a Filipino, people might want to watch this match.

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March 16, 2023, 09:29:36 AM
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If he will manage to take this one away from the monster, it is surely a good start to move up and
challenge the current champ on his chosen division.

Actually, I want to see Stephen Fulton having a rematch with a much-improved Brandon Figueroa in the 126 after this match against Naoya Inoue. I'm sure Fulton won't bother to stay at 122 anymore regardless of the result of this match as that was already his original plan and it's just timing that Inoue decided to move up.

I also think Fulton is not considering having possibility of a unification match against his fellow title holder at 122 lbs, Murodjon Akhmadaliev which has a scheduled title defense against a Filipino, Marlon Tapales next month. He is surely want to moved up weight no matter what.

Can't wait to see the result of this match and how it will change the current phase of the Super Bantamweight division.

Yes, same here mate. Fulton already gave us a sign that he will leave his present weight class regardless of the result and will campaign at 126, if it's not because of Naoya Inoue's climb towards 122, Steph Fulton may have already vacated his belts and left the division but since Inoue became the WBO super-champion, that pave a way to make this fight happen as Fulton is also looking forward to the very same thing.

After this fight, there's a good chance that Fulton and Figueroa's path may cross again as by that time they are situated in the same weight class and maybe by that time, Figueroa might be WBC champion if he can defeat Rey Vargas.

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March 16, 2023, 10:11:45 AM
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If he will manage to take this one away from the monster, it is surely a good start to move up and
challenge the current champ on his chosen division.

Actually, I want to see Stephen Fulton having a rematch with a much-improved Brandon Figueroa in the 126 after this match against Naoya Inoue. I'm sure Fulton won't bother to stay at 122 anymore regardless of the result of this match as that was already his original plan and it's just timing that Inoue decided to move up.

I also think Fulton is not considering having possibility of a unification match against his fellow title holder at 122 lbs, Murodjon Akhmadaliev which has a scheduled title defense against a Filipino, Marlon Tapales next month. He is surely want to moved up weight no matter what.

Can't wait to see the result of this match and how it will change the current phase of the Super Bantamweight division.

Yes, same here mate. Fulton already gave us a sign that he will leave his present weight class regardless of the result and will campaign at 126, if it's not because of Naoya Inoue's climb towards 122, Steph Fulton may have already vacated his belts and left the division but since Inoue became the WBO super-champion, that pave a way to make this fight happen as Fulton is also looking forward to the very same thing.

After this fight, there's a good chance that Fulton and Figueroa's path may cross again as by that time they are situated in the same weight class and maybe by that time, Figueroa might be WBC champion if he can defeat Rey Vargas.

This is a good thing because Inoue will always look for a good challenge, and I guess Fulton here has the same thoughts. That's why he chose to stay for a while to face the monster. He knows what is at stake in this fight; a win here will make him a popular boxer as nobody is really talking about him, so the world will know about Fulton.

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March 16, 2023, 02:31:10 PM
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Nah, I'm going to pass on that one. It's not that I'm disrespecting Fulton nor underestimating him, it's just that it is truly hard to bet against the Naoya Inoue who is touted as the monster himself just like his alias. Fulton might be fine as a comb at 122 but I cannot stand betting against the favorite in this case, it will be a profitable wager for sure if it turns out that the champion successfully defended his belt but that is a big if for now as I know Inoue will always evolve into a much stronger monster if he will face a competitive and strong boxers. For comparison, look at Inoue before and after his 1st fight against Donaire.
I agree. I am also hesitant to bet for the champion here and that's not because I am underestimating him, it's just that Naoya Inoue can be explosive especially now with his new goal to dominate the new weight class.
Plus, it's not like he leaped on higher heights, he just went upward one weight away which could be perfect for his body build. I mean, this could be the weight class where he perfectly fits and won't have any trouble when the weigh-ins happen.
So, he is comfortable and in condition. This is the formula for a boxer to win a fight, especially for a boxer who had gained a lot of experience fighting strong ones in his past fights.
Even if they will give an amount that is difficult to resist for Fulton, I won't take it.

That's interesting point when analyzing the fight, Inoue just move a weight away from the current that he fully dominated,
it's not a big change and like you, it's more comfortable for him as he's still on his prime.

We can witness both greatness from these two champs, one was the challenger who wanted to climb up and earned more titles under his belt.

And the other one who will defend his title and will try to upset the heavy favorites.
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I agree. I am also hesitant to bet for the champion here and that's not because I am underestimating him, it's just that Naoya Inoue can be explosive especially now with his new goal to dominate the new weight class.
Plus, it's not like he leaped on higher heights, he just went upward one weight away which could be perfect for his body build. I mean, this could be the weight class where he perfectly fits and won't have any trouble when the weigh-ins happen.
So, he is comfortable and in condition. This is the formula for a boxer to win a fight, especially for a boxer who had gained a lot of experience fighting strong ones in his past fights.
Even if they will give an amount that is difficult to resist for Fulton, I won't take it.
Rightfully so, Naoya is a beast that has proven himself time and time again. He's still at his prime, packs the punch that literally defeated one of the greats in Nonito Donaire (although let's face it, Donaire's past his prime during their fight already), and well, he's very hungry to prove himself. This fight is not going to be easy for Fulton despite him sitting in the weight division he's in for quite some time now and Naoya just stepping up to face greater challenges. Naoya's going to give him a run for his money, and could possibly defeat him in his own weight division. Man's a beast that's all I gotta say.

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March 16, 2023, 07:49:01 PM
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This is a good thing because Inoue will always look for a good challenge, and I guess Fulton here has the same thoughts. That's why he chose to stay for a while to face the monster. He knows what is at stake in this fight; a win here will make him a popular boxer as nobody is really talking about him, so the world will know about Fulton.
And taking into account what we have heard of Fulton it seems that is precisely what he wants, while boxers fight to earn money that does not mean they cannot have other motivations from time to time, Fulton is disappointed by the lack of popularity he has and he probably sees in Inoue a huge chance for him to change this, after all if he can defeat one of the most dominant boxers we have now, that will surely boost his career and his fame.
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March 16, 2023, 08:59:27 PM
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This is a good thing because Inoue will always look for a good challenge, and I guess Fulton here has the same thoughts. That's why he chose to stay for a while to face the monster. He knows what is at stake in this fight; a win here will make him a popular boxer as nobody is really talking about him, so the world will know about Fulton.
And taking into account what we have heard of Fulton it seems that is precisely what he wants, while boxers fight to earn money that does not mean they cannot have other motivations from time to time, Fulton is disappointed by the lack of popularity he has and he probably sees in Inoue a huge chance for him to change this, after all if he can defeat one of the most dominant boxers we have now, that will surely boost his career and his fame.
Climbing up the ladder is something a very common target or goal of a certain boxer specially into his career.There are really just that boxers who do have that notable achievements and that what makes
them popular and despite of being underdog or challenger but still he do ends up on being supported mainly by the masses which it is really indeed surprising. Stepping up on higher or lower division and tending
to dominate that then it would really be a milestone for any challenger out there.Its good that he decided to step up since he had been able to reach up that undisputed title on
his recent division and now stepping up would be the only path to take.,

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March 16, 2023, 09:27:40 PM
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This is a good thing because Inoue will always look for a good challenge, and I guess Fulton here has the same thoughts. That's why he chose to stay for a while to face the monster. He knows what is at stake in this fight; a win here will make him a popular boxer as nobody is really talking about him, so the world will know about Fulton.
And taking into account what we have heard of Fulton it seems that is precisely what he wants, while boxers fight to earn money that does not mean they cannot have other motivations from time to time, Fulton is disappointed by the lack of popularity he has and he probably sees in Inoue a huge chance for him to change this, after all if he can defeat one of the most dominant boxers we have now, that will surely boost his career and his fame.
Climbing up the ladder is something a very common target or goal of a certain boxer specially into his career.There are really just that boxers who do have that notable achievements and that what makes
them popular and despite of being underdog or challenger but still he do ends up on being supported mainly by the masses which it is really indeed surprising. Stepping up on higher or lower division and tending
to dominate that then it would really be a milestone for any challenger out there.Its good that he decided to step up since he had been able to reach up that undisputed title on
his recent division and now stepping up would be the only path to take.,

That's what I also read about, Fulton wanted to fight Inoue and he is not afraid even to travel just to face him. So the extra motivation is that he wants to be the first boxer to give Inoue his lost and take that 0. And that's what we love about fighters like Fulton, it's not that overconfident or what, but they want to test themselves against the best. So instead of moving up to another weight class, he decided to stay, maybe just one last fight for him to defend his belt against Inoue and if ever he beats him, he will be recognized and respected.

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March 16, 2023, 09:45:25 PM
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Nah, I'm going to pass on that one. It's not that I'm disrespecting Fulton nor underestimating him, it's just that it is truly hard to bet against the Naoya Inoue who is touted as the monster himself just like his alias. Fulton might be fine as a comb at 122 but I cannot stand betting against the favorite in this case, it will be a profitable wager for sure if it turns out that the champion successfully defended his belt but that is a big if for now as I know Inoue will always evolve into a much stronger monster if he will face a competitive and strong boxers. For comparison, look at Inoue before and after his 1st fight against Donaire.

I like to bet on the underdog so I think I'll be betting on Fulton.  Being a champion, we know Fulton has the capability, it is that Naoya Inoue is somehow overrated and massively favored by the crowd due to his past performance.  Remember, For Inoue, this is a new weight class that is dominated by Fulton, let alone a heavier one.  So I think betting on Fulton is not that disadvantageous for me. 

Though I agree that Inoue has the capability to evolve just like what happen in his 2 fights against Donaire, but, this is the first time Inoue fighting a championship title in the 122 lbs so the evolution of Inoue in this weight division hasn't been triggered yet  Grin

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March 16, 2023, 09:55:18 PM
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Nah, I'm going to pass on that one. It's not that I'm disrespecting Fulton nor underestimating him, it's just that it is truly hard to bet against the Naoya Inoue who is touted as the monster himself just like his alias. Fulton might be fine as a comb at 122 but I cannot stand betting against the favorite in this case, it will be a profitable wager for sure if it turns out that the champion successfully defended his belt but that is a big if for now as I know Inoue will always evolve into a much stronger monster if he will face a competitive and strong boxers. For comparison, look at Inoue before and after his 1st fight against Donaire.

I like to bet on the underdog so I think I'll be betting on Fulton.  Being a champion, we know Fulton has the capability, it is that Naoya Inoue is somehow overrated and massively favored by the crowd due to his past performance.  Remember, For Inoue, this is a new weight class that is dominated by Fulton, let alone a heavier one.  So I think betting on Fulton is not that disadvantageous for me. 

Though I agree that Inoue has the capability to evolve just like what happen in his 2 fights against Donaire, but, this is the first time Inoue fighting a championship title in the 122 lbs so the evolution of Inoue in this weight division hasn't been triggered yet  Grin

New weight division for Inoue, but the move up is not that big, so for me, it is not difficult for Inoue to fight on this weight division.
He may seem overrated, but we can see that he can really perform a very good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.
Well, everyone has their own bet on this upcoming fight. If you will bet on Inoue, the profit is only small if you bet small.
So look for other money betting lines like if this will go the distance or what round will this fight be finished?
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Nah, I'm going to pass on that one. It's not that I'm disrespecting Fulton nor underestimating him, it's just that it is truly hard to bet against the Naoya Inoue who is touted as the monster himself just like his alias. Fulton might be fine as a comb at 122 but I cannot stand betting against the favorite in this case, it will be a profitable wager for sure if it turns out that the champion successfully defended his belt but that is a big if for now as I know Inoue will always evolve into a much stronger monster if he will face a competitive and strong boxers. For comparison, look at Inoue before and after his 1st fight against Donaire.

I like to bet on the underdog so I think I'll be betting on Fulton.  Being a champion, we know Fulton has the capability, it is that Naoya Inoue is somehow overrated and massively favored by the crowd due to his past performance.  Remember, For Inoue, this is a new weight class that is dominated by Fulton, let alone a heavier one.  So I think betting on Fulton is not that disadvantageous for me. 

Though I agree that Inoue has the capability to evolve just like what happen in his 2 fights against Donaire, but, this is the first time Inoue fighting a championship title in the 122 lbs so the evolution of Inoue in this weight division hasn't been triggered yet  Grin

New weight division for Inoue, but the move up is not that big, so for me, it is not difficult for Inoue to fight on this weight division.
He may seem overrated, but we can see that he can really perform a very good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.
Well, everyone has their own bet on this upcoming fight. If you will bet on Inoue, the profit is only small if you bet small.
So look for other money betting lines like if this will go the distance or what round will this fight be finished?

If he's confident to go up after this match then its good for him exploring on different category can give him more achievements and this is what the best thing to do while he is young since he can sealed up a good records on his career.

If we talk about betting well maybe many well bet on Inoue even if the return is low since this is a high chance winning compare to betting on opponent where the chance to lose is so high. But I also doubt Inoue will make the fight extend until round 12 since this guy known to finish of his opponent as early as he can and he always target to get a K.O victory on his match.

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March 16, 2023, 10:57:53 PM
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This is a good thing because Inoue will always look for a good challenge, and I guess Fulton here has the same thoughts. That's why he chose to stay for a while to face the monster. He knows what is at stake in this fight; a win here will make him a popular boxer as nobody is really talking about him, so the world will know about Fulton.
And taking into account what we have heard of Fulton it seems that is precisely what he wants, while boxers fight to earn money that does not mean they cannot have other motivations from time to time, Fulton is disappointed by the lack of popularity he has and he probably sees in Inoue a huge chance for him to change this, after all if he can defeat one of the most dominant boxers we have now, that will surely boost his career and his fame.
Climbing up the ladder is something a very common target or goal of a certain boxer specially into his career.There are really just that boxers who do have that notable achievements and that what makes
them popular and despite of being underdog or challenger but still he do ends up on being supported mainly by the masses which it is really indeed surprising. Stepping up on higher or lower division and tending
to dominate that then it would really be a milestone for any challenger out there.Its good that he decided to step up since he had been able to reach up that undisputed title on
his recent division and now stepping up would be the only path to take.,

That's what I also read about, Fulton wanted to fight Inoue and he is not afraid even to travel just to face him. So the extra motivation is that he wants to be the first boxer to give Inoue his lost and take that 0. And that's what we love about fighters like Fulton, it's not that overconfident or what, but they want to test themselves against the best. So instead of moving up to another weight class, he decided to stay, maybe just one last fight for him to defend his belt against Inoue and if ever he beats him, he will be recognized and respected.
He would definitely gain that respect and of course the fame afterwards considering on how highly favorite Inoue is and on the time he do able to beat him up and having that first lose of Inoue then that is really something that Fulton could really attain in speaking about popularity and recognition which would boost up his career even more in boxing. Well, we cant really tell out on how this fight would conclude out
even Inoue supporters are already making up conclusion but we shouldn't really be having that kind of mindset as long theres no one had been KO'ed or been beaten up then its not over yet.

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March 16, 2023, 11:56:35 PM
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If Stephen Fulton loses against Naoya Inoue, it might not be good timing for him because Figueroa won recently vs. Mark Magsayo for the WBC featherweight interim championship. Fulton should win 1 fight in featherweight before he can argue for a challenge against Figueroa.

That depends if Brandon Figueroa will win or not against Rey Vargas.

The scenario would be, regardless of Fulton winning or losing against Inoue, he might probably face Figueroa in 126 if let's say, he loses too against Rey Vargas.

If Figueroa won indeed and successfully elevated into a regular champion, Fulton might wait first before being a challenger.

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March 16, 2023, 11:59:11 PM
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Well, we cant really tell out on how this fight would conclude out
even Inoue supporters are already making up conclusion but we shouldn't really be having that kind of mindset as long theres no one had been KO'ed or been beaten up then its not over yet.

We just have to wait for the fight to see what happened. Inoue supporters obviously will just think of Inoue being the winner here for an obvious reason. Fulton on the other hand, should just take his performance level to something very higher and try to spoil the expectations of Inoue fans.

Not just that, as a champion, Fulton should show us an explosive fight regardless if he loses here as if he wasn't able to show us that, he doesn't deserve the title and being a champion in the first place. It's also good to see him leaving the 122 being a champion.
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March 17, 2023, 09:19:19 AM
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Well, we cant really tell out on how this fight would conclude out
even Inoue supporters are already making up conclusion but we shouldn't really be having that kind of mindset as long theres no one had been KO'ed or been beaten up then its not over yet.

We just have to wait for the fight to see what happened. Inoue supporters obviously will just think of Inoue being the winner here for an obvious reason. Fulton on the other hand, should just take his performance level to something very higher and try to spoil the expectations of Inoue fans.

Not just that, as a champion, Fulton should show us an explosive fight regardless if he loses here as if he wasn't able to show us that, he doesn't deserve the title and being a champion in the first place. It's also good to see him leaving the 122 being a champion.

What's most important is that Fulton will dance with Inoue to make it an interesting fight. We don't want to be disappointed again where a fighter is very aggressive with their words, but when in the ring, they just fight to survive, just like what happened to Butler when he fought Inoue for the undisputed fight back in the bantamweight division.

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March 17, 2023, 12:51:09 PM
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Well, we cant really tell out on how this fight would conclude out
even Inoue supporters are already making up conclusion but we shouldn't really be having that kind of mindset as long theres no one had been KO'ed or been beaten up then its not over yet.

We just have to wait for the fight to see what happened. Inoue supporters obviously will just think of Inoue being the winner here for an obvious reason. Fulton on the other hand, should just take his performance level to something very higher and try to spoil the expectations of Inoue fans.

Not just that, as a champion, Fulton should show us an explosive fight regardless if he loses here as if he wasn't able to show us that, he doesn't deserve the title and being a champion in the first place. It's also good to see him leaving the 122 being a champion.

What's most important is that Fulton will dance with Inoue to make it an interesting fight. We don't want to be disappointed again where a fighter is very aggressive with their words, but when in the ring, they just fight to survive, just like what happened to Butler when he fought Inoue for the undisputed fight back in the bantamweight division.

It's really different when you are in the ring with Inoue, specially if you taste his power for the first time. And this is what happen to Butler, he try to be aggressive early by then again, when Inoue caught him with a good punch, Butler back up.

So hopefully this is not going to be the case for Fulton, he is the champion and he really fought hard against Figueroa and survived and win that fight. And this fight is really going to define him whether he is really that good is somewhat this fight is going to be closed at least unlike the Butler fight wherein it was a complete domination by Inoue.
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It's really different when you are in the ring with Inoue, specially if you taste his power for the first time. And this is what happen to Butler, he try to be aggressive early by then again, when Inoue caught him with a good punch, Butler back up.
"That's right, we have seen many times in his fights that his opponents end up outmatched. Actually, it was only Donaire who gave him some kind of trouble in their first fight. But, I'm sure Inoue has learned a lot from that experience, and he is now a more mature boxer, with a more technical strategy.

So hopefully this is not going to be the case for Fulton, he is the champion and he really fought hard against Figueroa and survived and win that fight. And this fight is really going to define him whether he is really that good is somewhat this fight is going to be closed at least unlike the Butler fight wherein it was a complete domination by Inoue.
Whether he is a champion or not, Inoue does not care. He will always give his best to deliver an impressive outcome. What Fulton has to do is train hard and not chicken out once he feels the heavy punches of Inoue. It's sure to be very painful, but if he wants to have a chance, he needs to take it and give his own big shots as well.
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March 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM
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This is a good thing because Inoue will always look for a good challenge, and I guess Fulton here has the same thoughts. That's why he chose to stay for a while to face the monster. He knows what is at stake in this fight; a win here will make him a popular boxer as nobody is really talking about him, so the world will know about Fulton.
And taking into account what we have heard of Fulton it seems that is precisely what he wants, while boxers fight to earn money that does not mean they cannot have other motivations from time to time, Fulton is disappointed by the lack of popularity he has and he probably sees in Inoue a huge chance for him to change this, after all if he can defeat one of the most dominant boxers we have now, that will surely boost his career and his fame.

That's how I see it. Fulton is really aiming to prove that he can beat the Monster and he will earned lot of respect once he does that, if Fulton will upset Inoue, I mean if he wins this fight.

He will earn more money fight, I'm assuming that a rematch may take place to make more money for
both the fighters and the promoters.
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