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Hey Trofo I won my h2h . Why I stay hqve just 3 pointa The last week I got 3 points. So it will be 6. Or I have wrong
Your first week game is not counting. Bonta took place of itshalla so you will have to play against Bonta in Round 12 when there wasn't a game scheduled for Div 3 before. This worked out well for you also since that means you don't get that -1 penalty point for being late in round 1. I wrote about that in the post when Bonta entered our league. Your game against itshalaa and hakan's this week are just rescheduled. When you look the table you can see under games played that you played only 1 game not two like most teams. Check the tables and full schedule and it will be clear. I hope, if not chat with you later on clubhouse ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Soo Kokee got his - 1 point deleted (in his favor) , and my 7 gw point deleted (I feel like I got penaltied for no reason) . Soo with much respect I Just wanna say what I think. There is a line between 'fair' and 'equalty' and not every equalty is fair soo I don't know what the say. 'This is not fair sir! ' Is my best answer rn ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I don't have any other suggestion too but 2 week combined kokke got 3 correct answers should not be equal to me (which 2th gw winner, total 12 correct answer) This kinda problem happend to our Türkiye Super leauge this season due to earthquake. Some teams in earthquake area could not continued the leauge cause the obvious reasons. All the games left against thoose teams got 3-0 win. And BeşiktaşClub meganerClub meganer said this is not fair (like me ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) and now I'm Beşiktaş ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You can't look at it from that point of view. You were never gonna get that 7:0 and it is not Kokkee fault. If anybody is to blame it is itshalla who did not post answers. He is therefore removed from league without option to join again. Just because we don't want situations like this. All his games are void as they did not happen. If there was other situation and Bonta did not join, you would have gotten 3:0 as forfeit, same as Kokee got initially and same as all opponents of wszocki got. Everything else is due to H2H. I have 12 correct picks in 2 rounds and just one point to show for it. That is RNG, it will get towards the mean sooner or later. I don't think anyone who looks at this situation objectively can find anything wrong about it. We were super happy for the way how we managed to handle it. In first I was a little offended. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) I typed a long mesagge like a lawyer ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) but since you guys are on charge and making final desicions. There is no point of me wasting my energy for no reason, and I like you Mr Trofo. I'm smart enough to know you don't have time for this sht and need to keep leauge going somehow. And I'm ok with that. Soo When I type my toughts (which they are not changed) I consider we are friends playing a game for fun together and thats all that metters. I understand the situation and ok to keep going. But I had to say what I think and feel, that who I am. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Since I don't have any better solution eighter, ok ofcourse let's 'pretend' that 2 weeks never happend (which they did) BUT.... Kokee should keep his - 1 point penalty, justice for other 1st and 2th gw late submitters. (Sorry kokke Im not against you its Just about fairness.) And I don't want (and did not want in the first place) 7 0 win anyway. I don't need that free points to kick your assses.... You and Viv, I'm ganna soo beat you guys... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Hope to see you in the Cup
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Oh forgot the say and if we are not counting the games against ıtshalaa then I should not be freebet winner for 1th and 2th game weeks and that freebets should go to real winners. I Just want what I deserve. Nothing more
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Oh forgot the say and if we are not counting the games against ıtshalaa then I should not be freebet winner for 1th and 2th game weeks and that freebets should go to real winners. I Just want what I deserve. Nothing more
everyone fights against the free bet regardless of whether the opponent does not answer their questions. You got the most points out of everyone in your group, so you won the free bet 😁
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in Round 2 we have a draw between Igebotz and buwaytrees - it will be settled in round 3
Ive never won a free bet and I always end up losing the draws- hey buwaytress you wanna put a side bet of 1mBTC on this one? You and Harko understands this game perfectly. I have a pretty bad stat for free bets so you are at an advantage here. I had to yield this round to @igebotz, pm me your btc address for the payment of our side bet, congratulations my man!
Thank you; I believe I was quite confident with my picks and the H2h questions. It was the ideal retaliation for what you did to me last season, and you also took away my 2mBTC, so I had to reclaim it, which I achieved. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) PM sent!
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June 19, 2023, 05:00:48 PM |
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Oh forgot the say and if we are not counting the games against ıtshalaa then I should not be freebet winner for 1th and 2th game weeks and that freebets should go to real winners. I Just want what I deserve. Nothing more
everyone fights against the free bet regardless of whether the opponent does not answer their questions. You got the most points out of everyone in your group, so you won the free bet 😁 Yeah, free bets are against your whole league. You can play for it even when you don't have a fixture. They are yours fair and square. Since I don't have any better solution eighter, ok ofcourse let's 'pretend' that 2 weeks never happend (which they did) BUT....
Kokee should keep his - 1 point penalty, justice for other 1st and 2th gw late submitters. (Sorry kokke Im not against you its Just about fairness.)
In a way they did not happen. They will happen at later date. How can we give a penalty for round where he did not need to play? What happens if he submits late when he actually plays that round? It is really difficult to strike a good balance between competition fairness and actually allowing people to compete. I can't even give a negative point for match that did not happen in software I am using to cover the league. We decided on keeping highest possible standards in first 2 leagues and having 3rd league as a sort of development league. I am quite sure nobody in Division 1 will post answers late or stop playing. I can't say the same for Div 3. Best thing you can do is play well and earn a promotion. We introduced penalties as a way to relegate players that aren't serious enough and to improve qoulity and fairness in first 2 divisions. Due to the nature of competition there will always probably be one league where stuff like this will happen. As the competition grows and maybe even from Season 3 that could be another new bottom division.
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June 19, 2023, 06:11:24 PM |
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Holy moly Kokee ganna hate me ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He needed to play and he did, but filled the form late which has a penalty, which it was given already. He needed to play just like everybody, he Just did not had to win thats it. And he did not know it anyway only thing he knows is he needed to answer questions in time, well he should have know atleast.
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Not a good start for me, got lost 2 times. The last match between Spain and Croatia made me nervous. In the penalty shootout, Croasia had to lose with 2 missed penalties. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Dont worry, there is plenty more chances to get back up in table. Well done to all guys who are still holding 100% win record! Four points from two round is not a bad start of new season for me, but this is just a start and we have a lot of rounds ahead of us. Next round is very important for me because I play against Trofo, and he has a small advantage with his DOTA question, this is not going to be easy.
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Looks like there is no place to hide for either of us anymore, because I'm playing against @darxiaomi for this round, so I guess there's every chance that we will get to settle our differences, including the H2H duel. That means, really I need to do better in this round, after losing last round and there is quite a bit on the line to look forward to too but then another stalement here would be some really weird shit ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Look how good guys we are we play in this round between us to make the things easy for the organizers. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) About this round questions, i think it was the first time i have to do a very deep research, between U21, DOTA and Tennis in grass wich its a unique surface.... man it was hell. One thing i noticed, Gouiri its 23 years old, why he can play U21? its like the olimpic rule where you can have 3 players above the age?.
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One thing i noticed, Gouiri its 23 years old, why he can play U21? its like the olimpic rule where you can have 3 players above the age?.
Not really, the rule is quite different this time around, The age bracket when it comes to eligibility for Euro U21 is usually a bit complex, for instance this year Euro U21 qualification phase started about one-two years ago, and during that period players would surely have been a year or 2 older, so it will be very unfair for a player that was allowed to participate in the qualifier ineligible for the main tournament, hence UEFA often taken a specific date prior to the qualifying stages so players 21 or younger as at then will all be eligible for the tournament in case of this year's Euro 21, players Born on January 1st, 2000 or later are all eligible to partake in the tournament, according to the UEFA U21 webpage. Article 42 Player eligibility 42.01 Each association must select players for its national representative team who hold the nationality of its country and who comply with the provisions of Articles 5 to 9 of the Regulations Governing the Application of the FIFA Statutes.
42.03 Players are eligible to play in the competition if they were born on or after 1 January 2000.
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Oh man how I hate DOTA! I never watched a single game and researching about it is a real pain in the ass. It took me 10 minutes just to find the damn season 20 of the DreamLeague! I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be included in the questions, I'm just ranting about it because I don't have much time to do the research.
Btw, what happened to Team Liquid? If I'm not mistaken they were somewhere near the top when we had DOTA question last time. Now I see that they are sitting at the bottom of the group A.
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congrats man, it was a while, but you have made it, onwards to better results
This is sad and happy to hear at the same time ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) here you go, congratz dude keep up the good work ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) this was a tricky gw, winning 3 point in this one is good thing imo.. Keep fighting Thanks! I will savor this moment for a very long time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Great man! Congrats! I guess I had to lose for the first time so you can have your first win ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) My loss was a close one (Darxiaomi beat me 5-4) but I had a bad feeling about it the whole week. I was actually really surprised about five goals in the third place game of the Nations league. I expected a game similar to the final game - with little or no goals. That's why I went with 4 or less goals in both games. But I guess the only thing that matters in the Nations league is the winner because if I'm not mistaken the winning nation gets a direct placement in the EURO. Indeed mate! I think sometimes the world works in such funny ways, if it was something to bet on, that you lose and I win, I would probably never take it. It's like asking Manchester City to lose while asking Elche to win at the same time. It's totally luck man. Sometimes I pick so much care and results are all weird, sometimes I pick following suggestions, like in F1 pool which I have almost no knowledge, and can win top spot. NL winner is Euro spot yes I think that's how it works. Slackovic agree, if not for the people on this forum (Liquipedia is suggested and it's the best for me), it's impossible to find correct pages about the particular tournament. For such a big sport, they really have very bad structure and organization, like even betting it's hard to find this particular tournament. I looked on my phone for a long time and it showed me all kinds of different things but not specifically DL20 for Dota2 until I looked on liquipedia once I got on computer. It took me seriously 2 DOTA questions to understand "double elimination bracket" someone tell me if you understand what that means without explanation lol. You have to look at past results and then you understand how it works. Anyway no complaints anymore I have a clear "Strategy" for DOTA now all questions lol
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Oh man how I hate DOTA! I never watched a single game and researching about it is a real pain in the ass. It took me 10 minutes just to find the damn season 20 of the DreamLeague! I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to be included in the questions, I'm just ranting about it because I don't have much time to do the research.
Btw, what happened to Team Liquid? If I'm not mistaken they were somewhere near the top when we had DOTA question last time. Now I see that they are sitting at the bottom of the group A.
They had bad tournament, maybe even better for them to recuperate a little. Why did you need that long to find it? Just use liquipedia, page I gave you link for. It is literally one click to get there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And no amount of research will help you answer this one, it is really though since teams are very similar in strength. That advantage some of them have at the moment will probably mean nothing when we get to brackets. We had a shitload of crazy results in this one.
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They had bad tournament, maybe even better for them to recuperate a little. Why did you need that long to find it? Just use liquipedia, page I gave you link for. It is literally one click to get there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And no amount of research will help you answer this one, it is really though since teams are very similar in strength. That advantage some of them have at the moment will probably mean nothing when we get to brackets. We had a shitload of crazy results in this one. Yeah, I saved the Liquipedia link when you last posted it. That and UltimateTennis website for tennis tournaments. With DOTA I opened Liquipedia and couldn't find anything useful. I thought that Liquipedia for DOTA is something like SofaScore for "normal" sports. But then I just typed the name of the tournament into the search and find the teams included. So this time it's just pure luck when choosing the finalists? Well... Maybe it will be better for me. Last week I thought that I chose good answers and I ended up losing for the first time. Let's not make it two losses in a row ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Oh man how I hate DOTA! I never watched a single game and researching about it is a real pain in the ass.
Same here. I'll start vetoing eSports ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) _______________________ @hakan2217 - some things in the 3rd Division cannot be 100% organized - we received a huge number of new players that are still learning how it all works. We have 1 player that immediately withdrew which caused us big problems and another that we were waiting for to start playing. That one was replaced with another member, and the league will be organized in a way to be the same for all players - meaning that you will simply play against another player at another time. As Trofo said, Kokee cannot be punished for a round that was voided. If he was playing against another player he would have lost the point, but he was lucky and his game was postponed.
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Oh man how I hate DOTA! ~snip
as I already said, I am taking that as a handicap, cannot do research, just luck on that question but overall, this round will be luck based, with U21 football, NBA draft, Dota and Tennis on grass surface, there is no point to do research a lot expecting a lot of surprises in all those questions, maybe NBA draft should go as planned, but all the others should go different ways, will be great to catch 5 this round
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Oh man how I hate DOTA! ~snip
as I already said, I am taking that as a handicap, cannot do research, just luck on that question but overall, this round will be luck based, with U21 football, NBA draft, Dota and Tennis on grass surface, there is no point to do research a lot I went with completely random answer in DOTA question just not to get penalty. It's pointless for to try make research about because I have no clue about esports, completely. It's true that many questions is luck based this week - youth football is often comes with surprises and tennis on grass is always difficult to predict, not like clay or hard.
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Took me some efford to make sure all the finalists could actually meet in the final, specially in the DOTA one, I hope I didn't mess things up in this aspect. Might comment more after the submition deadline. Also there's no market for the DOTA tournament or did I just fail to see them?
I see I'm matched with a new player in this tournament, let's see how will he perform.
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June 20, 2023, 11:02:23 AM Last edit: June 20, 2023, 11:57:27 AM by casperBGD |
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Alcaraz match is being canceled, not sure why, but don't think that Fils is going to withdraw after two wins do anyone has better info on this?
will wait for some more time to submit answers, is this question void if he withdraws or QF or less option applies as right answer?
edit: Fils withdraw, Alcaraz is playing with another opponent, that is lucky loser
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June 20, 2023, 11:29:01 AM |
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Outright cancelled, not postponed? Weird, did some research but found nothing
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June 20, 2023, 11:50:22 AM |
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Alcaraz match is being canceled, not sure why, but don't think that Fils is going to withdraw after two wins do anyone has better info on this?
will wait for some more time to submit answers, is this question void if he withdraws or QF or less option applies as right answer?
Fils withdrew. Rinderknech is the lucky loser so he'll be filling that spot.
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