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June 07, 2023, 01:24:43 PM
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Try emailing their support, that's usually where you'd get a quick reply (I emailed them yesterday and they replied quickly).

As soon as I wrote here, the transaction was confirmed immediately. Grin



Same here... Took a while longer than expected, but the tx has arrived Smiley

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June 07, 2023, 07:04:44 PM
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It has been several hours since I made a withdrawal (on 0 hours) request and it still shows as pending on the blockchain. This is the first time something like this has happened to me when using Whirlwind and as they have not posted about any potential issues this is somewhat confusing.

The image you posted shows the transaction as unconfirmed. Do you have any confirmations at all or is it still unconfirmed even after all this time?

I've probably asked for a withdrawal at the same time as Ratimov, I can see a pending tx now, it's a fresh and unconfirmed one but seems like they are rolling withdrawals right now.
It has been several hours since you posted. Has your transaction moved from pending to confirmed or is it still pending?

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June 07, 2023, 07:15:42 PM
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I've probably asked for a withdrawal at the same time as Ratimov, I can see a pending tx now, it's a fresh and unconfirmed one but seems like they are rolling withdrawals right now.
It has been several hours since you posted. Has your transaction moved from pending to confirmed or is it still pending?

No, but it's not big deal.
Simply we're unlucky, the fees were enough for the first block but the block didn't come in time, in the last 24h only 123 blocks have been mined 21 less than normal, and somebody dumped 40Mvb of tx in one go, so no surprise it's being pushed down.
Before block 793,255 you could get confirmations with 25vbytes, after it jumped for hours to 80.

Seen it before, just being unlucky, but as I said no big deal, it will confirm for sure during the night.



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June 07, 2023, 09:57:02 PM
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Deposit at Note Public Address accumulates for APR, ?, I suppose so, but if I want to delete this address after some deposits, I must create a note without deposit, then, the system automatically recognizes me to continue Anonymity mining.?

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June 08, 2023, 05:49:05 AM
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Deposit at Note Public Address accumulates for APR, ?, I suppose so, but if I want to delete this address after some deposits, I must create a note without deposit, then, the system automatically recognizes me to continue Anonymity mining.?

If you create a note without deposits, what AMR (Anonymity Mining Rewards) are you expecting? AMR is granted only for notes with a balance greater than 100K sats.
In this way, there is no need to "recognise" a user, it is sufficient to "recognise" a positive (and greater than 100K satoshi) balance

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Deposit at Note Public Address accumulates for APR, ?, I suppose so, but if I want to delete this address after some deposits, I must create a note without deposit, then, the system automatically recognizes me to continue Anonymity mining.?

If you create a note without deposits, what AMR (Anonymity Mining Rewards) are you expecting?

I have a better question.
What kind of impact can a new, never used address (without balance) have on anonymity, mining or anything? Isn't the whole thing designed so that the mixer has more funds from different sources?

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Deposit at Note Public Address accumulates for APR, ?, I suppose so, but if I want to delete this address after some deposits, I must create a note without deposit, then, the system automatically recognizes me to continue Anonymity mining.?

If you create a note without deposits, what AMR (Anonymity Mining Rewards) are you expecting?

I have a better question.
What kind of impact can a new, never used address (without balance) have on anonymity, mining or anything? Isn't the whole thing designed so that the mixer has more funds from different sources?

I guess an empty address, used or unused, has no impact whatsoever in the mixing process.
For what it us concerned there are 10^38 empty addresses out there.

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June 08, 2023, 11:04:22 AM
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Seen it before, just being unlucky, but as I said no big deal, it will confirm for sure during the night.
Sure as you said, my withdrawal must have been confirmed at some point in the early hours.

No, the transaction remains unconfirmed. Although the service still sets good fees with a similar fee, 44-48 sat/byte, apparently this time the long confirmation is caused by the operation of the blockchain itself and its temporary loading. In general, I like that even with free withdrawals, the mixer does not send transactions to users with minimal fees.
I suppose (and hope) your withdrawal has been completed by now.

I guess an empty address, used or unused, has no impact whatsoever in the mixing process.
For what it us concerned there are 10^38 empty addresses out there.
I agree with you, it stands to reason an empty address as far as Whirlwind is concerned would have literally no impact whatsoever when it comes to mixing. Unless I am missing the obvious, I cannot see any scenario where having multiple empty addresses would have any benefit at all.

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June 08, 2023, 08:38:53 PM
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Deposit at Note Public Address accumulates for APR, ?, I suppose so, but if I want to delete this address after some deposits, I must create a note without deposit, then, the system automatically recognizes me to continue Anonymity mining.?

If you create a note without deposits, what AMR (Anonymity Mining Rewards) are you expecting? AMR is granted only for notes with a balance greater than 100K sats.
In this way, there is no need to "recognise" a user, it is sufficient to "recognise" a positive (and greater than 100K satoshi) balance

I think you answer me from your experience and it is not the correct answer, if you think you gave it to me.

I have a deposit and I have a NPA (Note Public Address) I want to delete it. Then, the new note is to receive new funds with deposits (NPA) and add the existing note to this new one.

In this case, no deposit note is created, but it does have a balance or will have it.


Hi, whirlwindmoney Any answer would be very nice. I made a small deposit to test the campaign.
Cheers.

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June 08, 2023, 08:56:30 PM
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@famososMuertos, if you have a note with a balance (whether you've deposited to it or used "Pay to note"), and it's great than 100k sats you are in the anonymity campaign automatically and will receive the interest.

Hopefully that answers it, otherwise I'm not understanding your question properly  Cheesy

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Thanks for responding so quickly HZ, yes, well I understand that 100k sat means.

The question is whether the old APR is associated with this new Note, after removing the previous one. If the answer is in the two previous posts, my apologies, it's Monday. I'm the crazy one, no problem.  Smiley

2. From what I understand, the campaign pays to deposits associated with the Note and the deposits to NPA?

thanks again for the answers.


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June 08, 2023, 09:48:33 PM
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Thanks for responding so quickly HZ, yes, well I understand that 100k sat means.

The question is whether the old APR is associated with this new Note, after removing the previous one. If the answer is in the two previous posts, my apologies, it's Monday. I'm the crazy one, no problem.  Smiley

2. From what I understand, the campaign pays to deposits associated with the Note and the deposits to NPA?

thanks again for the answers.

The campaign pays to all eligible notes with a balance of 100k sats or more, no matter what type of note it is or where the funds came from. Does that make sense?

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June 12, 2023, 02:27:35 AM
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Is everything still active? It seems that development and communication stopped pretty abruptly, although the site is online of course. I wanted to add a lot more to start getting good dividends going from anonymity mining, but it's a scary thing to deposit coins and entrust them with the site when things have just gone weirdly quiet.
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Is everything still active? It seems that development and communication stopped pretty abruptly, although the site is online of course. I wanted to add a lot more to start getting good dividends going from anonymity mining, but it's a scary thing to deposit coins and entrust them with the site when things have just gone weirdly quiet.

I believe that most of the functionality has been implemented and we are in a phase right now where we/they just need more people to use the service.
The signature campaign as well as the anonyminity mining campaign are up and running and there probably just aren't daily updates at this point.
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June 13, 2023, 07:50:29 AM
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Is this the first case (okay, technically only an accusation) of linking users through notes?
2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?
The lesson is of course: address reuse is terrible for privacy.

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The lesson is of course: address reuse is terrible for privacy.
Not only is the address reused, but to break the link between the sending and receiving address, you need to trust the mixer to keep your coins for a longer time, and the withdrawal is random, no matter how good the mixer is. If you withdraw directly from the deposit address, you reduce your privacy.

I wonder how long the mining campaign will last, because in the future users will be forced to leave their money at the mixer for a longer time, and the mixer will not be able to pay them. without reward payment or high deposit volumes, I do not know if this goal will be achieved.

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Hello, apparently whirlwind has been down for a couple of hours.
Is that true also for you?

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Hello, apparently whirlwind has been down for a couple of hours.
Is that true also for you?
Hi, not for us at least. Both clearnet and Tor seem to work fine. We will post another message in the next hours with a more in-depth response to all the discussions in the topic and what we've been working on during the past weeks.

Edit: Just noticed our Clearnet server provider is doing infrastructure upgrades until midnight CET time, so 2 hours left. Tor is still accessible during this time.
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Hi, not for us at least. Both clearnet and Tor seem to work fine. We will post another message in the next hours with a more in-depth response to all the discussions in the topic and what we've been working on during the past weeks.

Edit: Just noticed our Clearnet server provider is doing infrastructure upgrades until midnight CET time, so 2 hours left. Tor is still accessible during this time.

Clearnet is also down with me, only the Cloudflare page with the "Error code 525" message. Maybe you should check your SSL settings there.

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btw. TOR is running regularly.

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Hi, not for us at least. Both clearnet and Tor seem to work fine. We will post another message in the next hours with a more in-depth response to all the discussions in the topic and what we've been working on during the past weeks.

Edit: Just noticed our Clearnet server provider is doing infrastructure upgrades until midnight CET time, so 2 hours left. Tor is still accessible during this time.

I can confirm this:
Clearnet is unreachable as @whirlwindmoney has stated (it says "SSL Handshake failed" for me).
Onion link resolves quickly, I can access my dashboard/note and todays payment from the signature campaign is also available or at least shows up as I haven't withdrawn yet.



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That's all it said and after I responded, I haven't heard back from him... It seems like you not being as active as before raised somewhat of a concern with some people.
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