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[CryptoHFs]

I checked the thread and saw nothing to be getting excited about. Whatever the OP is trying to achieve in that thread it seems something completely to Whirlwind has achieved and is trying to achieve. If I read the format correctly, there are no similarities between Whirlwind and that ETH mixer.

The main point I noted apart from the OP is looking for investment, it is not a case of where people can send funds in one crypto and receive them in a different crypto after mixing.

That guy created eth mixer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458783.new#new

Got it! You need to pay btc and receive eth. I thought you were looking for normal eth mixer. For WW I don't really know how they mix I never read the Ann nor used any mixer before thus yes mixers can do better.

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[sam00]

Got it! You need to pay btc and receive eth. I thought you were looking for normal eth mixer. For WW I don't really know how they mix I never read the Ann nor used any mixer before thus yes mixers can do better.

As far as I understood the announcement, there will be a fee involved for mixing through different currencies. In the beginning, whirlwind would have to provide liquidity on all chains to support the mixing but once user deposits on all different chains come in, they will have liquidity and the fees will keep the service alive.
This would drastically increase anonymity and being able to withdraw in multiple/different currencies makes the whole process flexible for the user.
We will have to wait for the release to be certain though, especially regarding the fees involved.

Sadly this thread is still being bombarded with spam

[JollyGood]

What is the real relationship between the CryptoHFs and stormbounty account? Yes it has been noticed by more than one member.

The fact you are constantly posting in this thread points to you having an ulterior motive. What I do not understand is that of you use your personal text to write Whirlwind cannot be trusted, what you are doing posting in the Whirlwind thread?

Got it! You need to pay btc and receive eth. I thought you were looking for normal eth mixer. For WW I don't really know how they mix I never read the Ann nor used any mixer before thus yes mixers can do better.

[CryptoHFs]

What is the real relationship between the CryptoHFs and stormbounty account? Yes it has been noticed by more than one member.

The fact you are constantly posting in this thread points to you having an ulterior motive. What I do not understand is that of you use your personal text to write Whirlwind cannot be trusted, what you are doing posting in the Whirlwind thread?

Got it! You need to pay btc and receive eth. I thought you were looking for normal eth mixer. For WW I don't really know how they mix I never read the Ann nor used any mixer before thus yes mixers can do better.

Well, I saw a whole community against one person so I decided to jump in and make the fight fair. If admins can prove its an alt you are welcome.

Here https://youtu.be/Q9-F4wi6bz4  

Aaaash now I understand.. you did like WW in the past with the bitcoin girl..

[FatFork]

Well, I saw a whole community against one person so I decided to jump in and make the fight fair. If admins can prove its an alt you are welcome.

So, what's your take on what went down and what exactly should WWM have done in this situation? I'm not sure how much you know about what happened, but I recommend giving the last few pages of this thread a thorough read to get a better idea of what's going on. Have you ever considered the possibility that this person might be wrong, and that's why they don't have the support of the community?

If this happened with a famous member here they would have been licking his balls while resolving his issue.

I don't believe that to be true, and I doubt that you have an example of such a situation ever happening.

[CryptoHFs]

Well, I saw a whole community against one person so I decided to jump in and make the fight fair. If admins can prove its an alt you are welcome.

So, what's your take on what went down and what exactly should WWM have done in this situation? I'm not sure how much you know about what happened, but I recommend giving the last few pages of this thread a thorough read to get a better idea of what's going on. Have you ever considered the possibility that this person might be wrong, and that's why they don't have the support of the community?

If this happened with a famous member here they would have been licking his balls while resolving his issue.

I don't believe that to be true, and I doubt that you have an example of such a situation ever happening.

For sure I won't go back and read all that but I have a very direct concept.

What is this forum trust built on? I believe that the most trusted resource on this forum is the topic (stake your address here) so this forum values a signed message in the first place.

Based on this and what I understand that he did sign a message from the sending address.

If this is considered a shit in this forum then you are breaking down the concept of address staking and how it validates a person.

So, are you with or against the address staking idea? You can't be with it but against this guy issue unless having no morals.

I will remove the sig text but I want to see this resolved.

[stormbounty]

Well, I saw a whole community against one person so I decided to jump in and make the fight fair. If admins can prove its an alt you are welcome.

So, what's your take on what went down and what exactly should WWM have done in this situation? I'm not sure how much you know about what happened, but I recommend giving the last few pages of this thread a thorough read to get a better idea of what's going on. Have you ever considered the possibility that this person might be wrong, and that's why they don't have the support of the community?

If this happened with a famous member here they would have been licking his balls while resolving his issue.

I don't believe that to be true, and I doubt that you have an example of such a situation ever happening.

Dude right now the clearet is down again.. in my case i saved clearnet private key and clicked to go to deposit page and it went down, i now opened the onion key, noticed the key began with same letters as clearnet page (first 2 letters), i assumed it will be same since it was same browser.. i clicked to deposit, i deposited and got stuck because the way the ux is, there is no way to proceed to withdrawal after a deposit. i messaged support, maybe there is a proceed button im not seeing, and support didnt even bother to reply... How the fuck am i wrong!



FUCK YOU

[JollyGood]

So this is what it has come down to again. If the trolling and the constant flooding of this thread with consecutive posts minutes apart both from the stormbounty account and the CryptoHFs account is not enough, the mention of religion and profanities have become their chosen choice of expression.

The stormbounty account and the CryptoHFs account are on my trust exclusion and will probably be added to my ignore list too.

FUCK YOU

What is the real relationship between the CryptoHFs and stormbounty account? Yes it has been noticed by more than one member.
The fact you are constantly posting in this thread points to you having an ulterior motive. What I do not understand is that of you use your personal text to write Whirlwind cannot be trusted, what you are doing posting in the Whirlwind thread?

FUCK YOU TOO JOLLYGOOD, YOU ARE THE WHIRLWIND ALT ACCOUNT IDIOT

Pieces of shit

[stormbounty]

So this is what it has come down to again. If the trolling and the constant flooding of this thread with consecutive posts minutes apart both from the stormbounty account and the CryptoHFs account, they mention of religion and profanities have become their chosen choice of expression.

The stormbounty account and the CryptoHFs account are on my trust exclusion and will probably be added to my ignore list too.

FUCK YOU

What is the real relationship between the CryptoHFs and stormbounty account? Yes it has been noticed by more than one member.
The fact you are constantly posting in this thread points to you having an ulterior motive. What I do not understand is that of you use your personal text to write Whirlwind cannot be trusted, what you are doing posting in the Whirlwind thread?

FUCK YOU TOO JOLLYGOOD, YOU ARE THE WHIRLWIND ALT ACCOUNT IDIOT

Pieces of shit

Yes you and your supreme leader just stole my $200 fuck you..


There is no crypto service on earth that doesnt implement a checking step to be sure the correct private key/ mnemonic phrases are saved. except of course THIS scam of a mixer

[FatFork]

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So, are you with or against the address staking idea? You can't be with it but against this guy issue unless having no morals.

Staking your address on this forum, in my opinion, holds little relevance in this particular case. Yes, it proves that the user indeed owns the address used to deposit funds on Whirlwind. However, beyond that, it doesn't prove anything else.

The whole case boils down to the user's claim that he lost access (private key) to the funded note and can't retrieve the coins. However, besides his words, there's no concrete proof to support it. But, even if he manage to prove it, it's still not Whirlwind's responsibility nor their obligation to compensate for the lost funds. Whirlwind notes are a non-custodial type of wallet, so it's unreasonable to hold them accountable for the loss of funds.

Dude right now the clearet is down again.. in my case i saved clearnet private key and clicked to go to deposit page and it went down, i now opened the onion key, noticed the key began with same letters as clearnet page (first 2 letters), i assumed it will be same since it was same browser.. i clicked to deposit, i deposited and got stuck because the way the ux is, there is no way to proceed to withdrawal after a deposit. i messaged support, maybe there is a proceed button im not seeing, and support didnt even bother to reply... How the fuck am i wrong!

You are wrong because, as you admitted yourself, you assumed something that was clearly not the case. I don't want to go into the details of how clearnet and TOR domains work, but that was a very wrong assumption. Moreover, even if you were using the same browser and opened a new tab on the same domain, your notes would still be generated with a new private key. (I just took 15 seconds to check it myself.) So, I'm baffled as to where such an assumption about something so crucial comes from.

Your second mistake was not saving the private key (and double-checking it) BEFORE depositing the funds, which is explicitly stated on the website. It's as simple as clicking a mouse to download a text file, so there's no need for manual copy-pasting into Notepad.

And finally, you're also wrong in expecting Whirlwind to bear the loss (even if it's a relatively small amount) due to clearly YOUR mistake. As I said before, even if we assume your story is true, those funds are now inaccessible to anyone, which doesn't change the fact that Whirlwind already paid that amount once. So why should they compensate you twice for your mistake?

FUCK YOU

THANK YOU!  

[CryptoHFs]

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So, are you with or against the address staking idea? You can't be with it but against this guy issue unless having no morals.

Just for my personal knowledge

Whirlwind notes are a non-custodial type of wallet
Those wallets doesn't have private key they know?

Whirlwind already paid that amount once
Paid to who? And why not to stormy?

Wallets isn't accessible
Do you mean there's a wallet generator in their interface and it generates a new wallet upon order then he gives them that wallet private key manually as notes? Why? As long as they need it why not recorded internally? If it's the case return to prev question why then paid and to who?

[FatFork]

Wallets isn't accessible
Do you mean there's a wallet generator in their interface and it generates a new wallet upon order then he gives them that wallet private key manually as notes? Why? As long as they need it why not recorded internally? If it's the case return to prev question why then paid and to who?

Actually, it seems I was wrong about that part in my previous reply. Such a system of notes has not yet been implemented and is planned with the introduction of ZK based Notes:

With the introduction of the ZK based Notes we won't have this issue anymore because the user will be the only person to have access to it, same as now, but the difference is that in the ZK Note case there is no way we can ever do something about it because your deposit will be one of *Anonymity Set value* deposits and we would have no way of knowing if you withdrew already or any other detail. If you lose it, it's on you.

I made the wrong conclusion, and I believe I've read other comments stating the same thing, suggesting that such a system is already in place.

[CryptoHFs]

Wallets isn't accessible
Do you mean there's a wallet generator in their interface and it generates a new wallet upon order then he gives them that wallet private key manually as notes? Why? As long as they need it why not recorded internally? If it's the case return to prev question why then paid and to who?

Actually, it seems I was wrong about that part in my previous reply. Such a system of notes has not yet been implemented and is planned with the introduction of ZK based Notes:

With the introduction of the ZK based Notes we won't have this issue anymore because the user will be the only person to have access to it, same as now, but the difference is that in the ZK Note case there is no way we can ever do something about it because your deposit will be one of *Anonymity Set value* deposits and we would have no way of knowing if you withdrew already or any other detail. If you lose it, it's on you.

I made the wrong conclusion, and I believe I've read other comments stating the same thing, suggesting that such a system is already in place.

Got it.. so for now they can sort it still
Anyways, nice to meet you & have a great day.

[Ojima-ojo]

I for one am excited about the addition of ETH and XMR! Should be some good times ahead and hopefully some faster growth comes with it, too.

Yes because we can easily mixed from Bitcoin to ETH,  XMR and vice vassal This is a big addition to anonymity privacy and control,  I for one will love to try that out right away if it available or I will look forward to when that feature is fully implemented on the site.


Indeed some exciting time ahead!

[sam00]

Whirlwind already paid that amount once
Paid to who? And why not to stormy?

I don't believe they refunded a user for his mistakes before. There was a case where someone deposited and also didn't save his private key. They asked the community and the opinion was pretty clear that they shouldn't refund.
Here's the short description:

The user contacted us and this is the information given to us:
1. He didn't save the Note Private Key
2. He didn't save the Note Public Address
3. He didn't save the Letter of Guarantee
4. He doesen't remember the exact donation % used
5. He can sign a message from the address used to deposit on Whirlwind

And that was their statement after the community had their opinion on it:

Thank you everyone for your responses, it's an unfortunate situation but there is nothing we can do without setting dangerous precedents or jeopardizing our integrity and we simply cannot afford to risk any of the 2 outcomes happening. This business is all about trust and the moment it's gone, it's gone for good.

You popping up here out of nowhere and calling the user "stormy" instead of his real username "stormbounty" makes me wonder what connection you two have. You previously stated that there is no connection.

Well, I saw a whole community against one person so I decided to jump in and make the fight fair. If admins can prove its an alt you are welcome.

Still makes me wonder what you are trying to accomplish.

[CryptoHFs]

You popping up here out of nowhere and calling the user "stormy" instead of his real username "stormbounty" makes me wonder what connection you two have. You previously stated that there is no connection.

Let's assume there's a connection. Does that change the fact that he has an issue? No. Then those connection moans won't work.

For me I have wrote my final thoughts about the case in the fatfork discussion. So I won't bother wasting more time in it.

BTW WW won't give extra bonus for the alt idea

[stormbounty]

Okay whirlwindmoney, don’t mix again, send my money back to the address it came from.

I don’t want it mixed anymore.




You are centralized service, not a smart contract.

[FatFork]

I for one am excited about the addition of ETH and XMR! Should be some good times ahead and hopefully some faster growth comes with it, too.

Yes because we can easily mixed from Bitcoin to ETH,  XMR and vice vassal This is a big addition to anonymity privacy and control,  I for one will love to try that out right away if it available or I will look forward to when that feature is fully implemented on the site.


Indeed some exciting time ahead!

That's going to be an interesting feature, really. I don't think there has ever been a crypto mixer that offered instant exchange integrated into the mixing process, to be honest.

For the most part, I've avoided using instant exchanges primarily because of high fees (at one point, I even thought about developing my own instant exchange that wouldn't charge any fees at all and would perform coin swaps based on the current market price). Let's just hope that Whirlwind won't charge high fees in their case and that using the mixer with the coin swapping option will still be more cost-effective than going through a traditional exchange.

[dkbit98]

That's going to be an interesting feature, really. I don't think there has ever been a crypto mixer that offered instant exchange integrated into the mixing process, to be honest.

Not that I know, but there are plenty of instant exchanges who are doing something similar and swapping Monero to Bitcoin and vice versa and I think one mixer is already using monero as advanced option for mixing Bitcoin.
I could even argue that some of this exchanges ^{(they can be found on kycnot.me)} exist longer and they are acting like mixers in this case, they don't charge high fees for this service so it won't be anything revolutionary if Whirlwind does this.
Even big centralized exchanged acted in similar way back in the days when they didn't have mandatory kyc for everyone.

[stormbounty]

 Whirlwindmoney is a criminal setup targeted at ripping newbies off their funds. They circlejerk and justify theft amongst themselves.