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September 01, 2023, 12:26:18 PM
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    -   It will not be beneficial if a person continues to gamble after addiction has developed or entered their personality. And any addictions that were treated improperly are no longer considered to be normal. In addition, the outcome will undoubtedly be abnormal. Imagine, it's insane to kidnap your own daughter. Yuan has done it, and he didn't think that he had done it to her daughter or even her own blood.

Because a normal, rational parent would never subject their own child to such abuse. Such a person who suffers from an addiction needs counseling and rehabilitation to become better.

Imagine a smoker who has become addicted. On the cigarette pack, it is stated the implications of smoking, but since it is something you can not do without even if you know the risk, you will not bother. Once the addiction has eaten deeply inside, the problem has only just begun. Getting out of that shithole addiction is going to be hard. Once it has already become a lifestyle, nothing else can be done without serious decline.If a parent is aware of their addiction and understands the consequences, they will not want their child to end up in the same situation as them.
It is outrageous that gamblers cause such dire consequences. I honestly don't believe she could kidnap her daughter. When a person is addicted to gambling, they will run out of money and material things. They will stop playing. I don't think gambling addiction is as harmful as drug addiction. It can cause people to do such immoral things.

To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.

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September 01, 2023, 02:05:03 PM
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To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.
I think if you gamble in a country that prohibits gambling, maybe there could be a law that could make gamblers stop gambling because of course there are certain punishments for gamblers, especially addicts, but it seems that they definitely won't be punished severely, usually they are given advice by professionals to stay away from gambling so they don't. become addicted, even so, the addict will continue to gamble again in secret.

It's true that gambling addiction is almost the same as drug addiction, but the punishment doesn't seem to be the same, especially if you play gambling in a country that frees gambling, of course addicts won't be able to be severely punished because they play in countries that legalize gambling and have freedom. the only way is to let the addict go bankrupt so that he can more easily wake up from his addiction.

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September 01, 2023, 05:58:54 PM
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To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.
I think if you gamble in a country that prohibits gambling, maybe there could be a law that could make gamblers stop gambling because of course there are certain punishments for gamblers, especially addicts, but it seems that they definitely won't be punished severely, usually they are given advice by professionals to stay away from gambling so they don't. become addicted, even so, the addict will continue to gamble again in secret.

It's true that gambling addiction is almost the same as drug addiction, but the punishment doesn't seem to be the same, especially if you play gambling in a country that frees gambling, of course addicts won't be able to be severely punished because they play in countries that legalize gambling and have freedom. the only way is to let the addict go bankrupt so that he can more easily wake up from his addiction.

In place where gambling is legal there's no punishments if you turn into a gambling addicted person, what might happen is when you already suffer from too much addictions you may do things that is not usual, committing crimes just to please your gambling activities may take place, from that view, you can be punish and the government will be able to put you into a situation where you needed to face your charges, but if you are not into that far, professional help maybe the best solution together with your self-will.

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September 01, 2023, 07:44:20 PM
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It is outrageous that gamblers cause such dire consequences. I honestly don't believe she could kidnap her daughter. When a person is addicted to gambling, they will run out of money and material things. They will stop playing. I don't think gambling addiction is as harmful as drug addiction. It can cause people to do such immoral things.

To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.

if you disassemble online news from previous years, you will find quite a lot of extraordinary things done by gambling addicts, what is no less crazy imo is this case;

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Recently, a man from China was arrested for selling his child for RM35,000 to settle his online gambling debt. The father, Jiang, came from Guiyang, Guizhou and said that he had to do so because he was unemployed.
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The thing I hate most about gambling addicts is why when they are in big trouble, their family is the one they have to sacrifice, why don't they sell themselves?
there is no need to forgive people like this, their brains are stuck, they can no longer think and be healed, they should be jailed.



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September 01, 2023, 08:05:17 PM
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To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.
I think if you gamble in a country that prohibits gambling, maybe there could be a law that could make gamblers stop gambling because of course there are certain punishments for gamblers, especially addicts, but it seems that they definitely won't be punished severely, usually they are given advice by professionals to stay away from gambling so they don't. become addicted, even so, the addict will continue to gamble again in secret.

It's true that gambling addiction is almost the same as drug addiction, but the punishment doesn't seem to be the same, especially if you play gambling in a country that frees gambling, of course addicts won't be able to be severely punished because they play in countries that legalize gambling and have freedom. the only way is to let the addict go bankrupt so that he can more easily wake up from his addiction.

In place where gambling is legal there's no punishments if you turn into a gambling addicted person, what might happen is when you already suffer from too much addictions you may do things that is not usual, committing crimes just to please your gambling activities may take place, from that view, you can be punish and the government will be able to put you into a situation where you needed to face your charges, but if you are not into that far, professional help maybe the best solution together with your self-will.

What kind of punishments are you talking about? You mean you can get legal consequences for turning into an addict? I know that gambling in general isn't allowed in some countries, but where do they make a differentiation between addiction and normal gambling?

I guess someone who is seriously addicted and gambling away their financial existence really doesn't need any legal consequences on top of that. What should that even be? A financial penalty maybe? Cheesy

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September 02, 2023, 06:12:35 AM
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Yes, that's right, someone will realize that if everything has happened, then the people around him will also feel and suffer the consequences of the mistakes made by a gambling addict. In my opinion, it's not just admitting defeat, addicts will change their habits if they are not balanced with self-confidence and are willing to repent so they don't repeat it again, in my opinion, it will be very difficult to get rid of it. from gambling addiction.

One of the things to make it difficult is the environment where if you want to change and you are quickly influenced again by your friends or someone you know to play again, you won't hesitate to playback and you suddenly find yourself doing the same thing over and over again. That's why you need to stay away from such a place and find some good friends that will take you away from such bad habits. Because gambling addiction is not an easy matter and obviously we already know how it will change the life of a person permanently in a negative way if he doesn't learn to stop and change his behavior.
Gambling causes many people to lose control of their lives and gambling addiction often develops along with drug addiction. Playing for the first time and feeling satisfaction from the game, a person sinks into these emotions and wants to experience them again and again. That is why it should be remembered that gambling addiction is a rather serious problem and if you find signs of gambling addiction in your relatives acquaintances or close relatives you should take immediate action. Otherwise, gambling addiction can lead to irreversible consequences.

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September 02, 2023, 07:47:47 AM
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I think that applies to all those bigger names in the industry who claim to have won huge amounts of money, but when someone here on the forum comes up with a new account and posts that he won hundreds of thousands of dollars at this casino, how do we even know that it is not someone from the casino itself? I can definitely imagine that this kind of fake promotion is part of a casino marketing campaign and of course it should sound realistic, but I wouldn't trust it blindly ever. Screenshots mean nothing as any employee who is authorized to do that marketing could create screenshots and so on.
We don't know if he was telling the truth about winning big money because we weren't with him when he won the game either. And if it were a fake promotion made by the casino through its agents, it would not be believed easily by us because we would see or check it if we could. And it's true that screenshots can easily be made just for a promotion and we've seen that many times.

But if someone is experiencing frustration from gambling, it makes a lot of sense because he could have suffered so many losses that he would do many things including kidnapping his own grandson and asking his parents for ransom. But it was brutal for anyone to have the heart to do that because after all, it was his own grandson and it looked like he needed to get into the rehab center ASAP before things would go haywire.

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September 02, 2023, 01:45:00 PM
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To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.
I think if you gamble in a country that prohibits gambling, maybe there could be a law that could make gamblers stop gambling because of course there are certain punishments for gamblers, especially addicts, but it seems that they definitely won't be punished severely, usually they are given advice by professionals to stay away from gambling so they don't. become addicted, even so, the addict will continue to gamble again in secret.

It's true that gambling addiction is almost the same as drug addiction, but the punishment doesn't seem to be the same, especially if you play gambling in a country that frees gambling, of course addicts won't be able to be severely punished because they play in countries that legalize gambling and have freedom. the only way is to let the addict go bankrupt so that he can more easily wake up from his addiction.

In place where gambling is legal there's no punishments if you turn into a gambling addicted person, what might happen is when you already suffer from too much addictions you may do things that is not usual, committing crimes just to please your gambling activities may take place, from that view, you can be punish and the government will be able to put you into a situation where you needed to face your charges, but if you are not into that far, professional help maybe the best solution together with your self-will.
Just like in my country, the government has regulated rules regarding gambling, but this will not dampen the enthusiasm of gamblers to gamble because in my opinion the punishment is neither severe nor light for the perpetrators. If the punishment is comparable to the punishment for drug users then it is possible that people who are addicted will stop gambling.
I have a neighbor who was caught by the police while he was busy gambling with his friends even though they gambled in their own way, namely secretly, but bad luck befell him and they were jailed for 6 months and fined 10 million, after that he got out of jail he is still gambling . Maybe I think he is addicted as a gambler because he hasn't been able to stop gambling and to this day he still likes to gamble.

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It's true that gambling addiction is almost the same as drug addiction, but the punishment doesn't seem to be the same, especially if you play gambling in a country that frees gambling, of course addicts won't be able to be severely punished because they play in countries that legalize gambling and have freedom. the only way is to let the addict go bankrupt so that he can more easily wake up from his addiction.

even though drugs and gambling are 2 things that can be addictive, the impact of gambling addiction is actually not as bad as what is caused by drugs. gambling addiction will only cause gamblers to become unable to control their emotions and be more impulsive or cause harm to them or their families, whereas drugs have a much greater impact. and because of this, the punishment for gambling addiction is not equated with drug addiction because the impact is not that bad. however, if it is carried out in a country that prohibits gambling, of course the punishment will be more severe, but not imprisoned, only a fine will be given.

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even though drugs and gambling are 2 things that can be addictive, the impact of gambling addiction is actually not as bad as what is caused by drugs. gambling addiction will only cause gamblers to become unable to control their emotions and be more impulsive or cause harm to them or their families, whereas drugs have a much greater impact. and because of this, the punishment for gambling addiction is not equated with drug addiction because the impact is not that bad. however, if it is carried out in a country that prohibits gambling, of course the punishment will be more severe, but not imprisoned, only a fine will be given.
I think the impact is pretty much similar.

Either a drug addict or gambling addict, they will try to get money in order to make them satisfied including stealing other people money or taking a loan. In order to cure drug addict or gambling addict, they need to get rehabilitation and takes time.

So, everyone must not become an addict and aware about that.

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September 02, 2023, 03:22:38 PM
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even though drugs and gambling are 2 things that can be addictive, the impact of gambling addiction is actually not as bad as what is caused by drugs. gambling addiction will only cause gamblers to become unable to control their emotions and be more impulsive or cause harm to them or their families, whereas drugs have a much greater impact. and because of this, the punishment for gambling addiction is not equated with drug addiction because the impact is not that bad. however, if it is carried out in a country that prohibits gambling, of course the punishment will be more severe, but not imprisoned, only a fine will be given.
I think the impact is pretty much similar.

Either a drug addict or gambling addict, they will try to get money in order to make them satisfied including stealing other people money or taking a loan. In order to cure drug addict or gambling addict, they need to get rehabilitation and takes time.

So, everyone must not become an addict and aware about that.

Addiction to everything is bad, especially for the things that can cause you to lose your money like gambling addiction or things that can make your mind stop working and damage to health like excess of alcohol and drugs.

I think the gambler himself won't be in a position to get cured himself because in most cases he will not admit that he is being affected by the addiction. So it becomes a moral responsibility of his near and dear ones (those who know that he is addicted) to help him get out of this addiction.

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September 02, 2023, 04:41:59 PM
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We don't know if he was telling the truth about winning big money because we weren't with him when he won the game either. And if it were a fake promotion made by the casino through its agents, it would not be believed easily by us because we would see or check it if we could. And it's true that screenshots can easily be made just for a promotion and we've seen that many times.

But if someone is experiencing frustration from gambling, it makes a lot of sense because he could have suffered so many losses that he would do many things including kidnapping his own grandson and asking his parents for ransom. But it was brutal for anyone to have the heart to do that because after all, it was his own grandson and it looked like he needed to get into the rehab center ASAP before things would go haywire.

When the people said they won the game,he only know whether he won or not.Because we can’t ask them about the proof of the game,many result of jackpot was secretly maintained now.Either the winning person or the gambling agent should disclose the result,sometimes both don’t share the results.Some of the gambling addict will do the ransom for the money and they do this with the relative or friends of them.After getting money,they will release that children.When this was found by his friends or relatives,they will join this person to the hospital where the mental illness people get the treatment.
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When the people said they won the game,he only know whether he won or not.Because we can’t ask them about the proof of the game,many result of jackpot was secretly maintained now.Either the winning person or the gambling agent should disclose the result,sometimes both don’t share the results.Some of the gambling addict will do the ransom for the money and they do this with the relative or friends of them.After getting money,they will release that children.When this was found by his friends or relatives,they will join this person to the hospital where the mental illness people get the treatment.
If they say they won a game from an online casino, they can use the evidence they can easily collect to show it to the people around them. But when they lost, they wouldn't show anything and would even hide their defeat from others. They don't want to experience harassment from people around them who say bad things that they have lost. And it is true that gambling can make a person think irrationally because he only thinks about gambling and winning so he can do unreasonable actions. People like this really need to get psychiatric treatment so that they don't affect the people around them or their environment.

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September 03, 2023, 07:59:49 AM
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I think that applies to all those bigger names in the industry who claim to have won huge amounts of money, but when someone here on the forum comes up with a new account and posts that he won hundreds of thousands of dollars at this casino, how do we even know that it is not someone from the casino itself? I can definitely imagine that this kind of fake promotion is part of a casino marketing campaign and of course it should sound realistic, but I wouldn't trust it blindly ever. Screenshots mean nothing as any employee who is authorized to do that marketing could create screenshots and so on.
We don't know if he was telling the truth about winning big money because we weren't with him when he won the game either. And if it were a fake promotion made by the casino through its agents, it would not be believed easily by us because we would see or check it if we could. And it's true that screenshots can easily be made just for a promotion and we've seen that many times.

But if someone is experiencing frustration from gambling, it makes a lot of sense because he could have suffered so many losses that he would do many things including kidnapping his own grandson and asking his parents for ransom. But it was brutal for anyone to have the heart to do that because after all, it was his own grandson and it looked like he needed to get into the rehab center ASAP before things would go haywire.

Well combined with the kidnapping it is probably not a promotion stunt and I was referring to the comment before in more general terms.

But in terms of the kidnapping case swapping over to other places via the media, I am not sure how real that is and whether the thing happened as is reported. If it was the case, it is the worst someone can actually. But is such a story really shocking anymore? Think about people selling their kidneys for money to buy drugs and what not. There is so much shit going on then sometimes I feel even a horror story can't be a serious shocker anymore.

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September 03, 2023, 09:28:29 AM
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even though drugs and gambling are 2 things that can be addictive, the impact of gambling addiction is actually not as bad as what is caused by drugs. gambling addiction will only cause gamblers to become unable to control their emotions and be more impulsive or cause harm to them or their families, whereas drugs have a much greater impact. and because of this, the punishment for gambling addiction is not equated with drug addiction because the impact is not that bad. however, if it is carried out in a country that prohibits gambling, of course the punishment will be more severe, but not imprisoned, only a fine will be given.
I think the impact is pretty much similar.

Either a drug addict or gambling addict, they will try to get money in order to make them satisfied including stealing other people money or taking a loan. In order to cure drug addict or gambling addict, they need to get rehabilitation and takes time.

So, everyone must not become an addict and aware about that.
When a gambling addict or drug addict does not have the money to fulfill what makes them do something fulfilling then the only way is to commit criminal acts such as stealing or robbery and there is no way they can borrow money easily because no one believes in lending to gambling addicts or drug addicts.

This is like the bad effects of addiction only the two have very different differences and no one can realize that it is better for him to avoid addiction because he does this to get pleasure or inner satisfaction.
It is impossible for anyone to be able to control themselves over their addiction.

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September 03, 2023, 09:30:21 AM
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When the people said they won the game,he only know whether he won or not.Because we can’t ask them about the proof of the game,many result of jackpot was secretly maintained now.Either the winning person or the gambling agent should disclose the result,sometimes both don’t share the results.Some of the gambling addict will do the ransom for the money and they do this with the relative or friends of them.After getting money,they will release that children.When this was found by his friends or relatives,they will join this person to the hospital where the mental illness people get the treatment.
If they say they won a game from an online casino, they can use the evidence they can easily collect to show it to the people around them. But when they lost, they wouldn't show anything and would even hide their defeat from others. They don't want to experience harassment from people around them who say bad things that they have lost. And it is true that gambling can make a person think irrationally because he only thinks about gambling and winning so he can do unreasonable actions. People like this really need to get psychiatric treatment so that they don't affect the people around them or their environment.

Yes and in my opinion it could be bullshit, meaning that they say they have won a big jackpot from an online casino but they cannot provide strong evidence or withdrawal history, well from that alone we can confirm that they are just bullshit. Some of my gambling colleagues also say that but the fact is it's a lie, I don't know what the reason is but maybe it's like they want to boast about themselves or maybe want to be a little superior to other gamblers from luck problems but not accompanied by evidence haha. And yes that's right, when they lose I'm 100% sure they won't say anything to their colleagues, most of them will hide the defeat because maybe they are ashamed that their luck is not as lucky as others.

Now for this I strongly agree, maybe most of the people including (gamblers) already know that the things they do are very disturbing to them in any way, first of all their finances will definitely not be stable or maybe they don't have any money at all, and secondly their mental and psychological state will also definitely be disturbed. The number of defeats they experience has made them seem unconscious, and therefore the impact of gambling is very dangerous, unconsciously you can do things unexpectedly without your awareness. And obviously it can really harm other people.

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September 03, 2023, 10:19:00 AM
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I think the impact is pretty much similar.

Either a drug addict or gambling addict, they will try to get money in order to make them satisfied including stealing other people money or taking a loan. In order to cure drug addict or gambling addict, they need to get rehabilitation and takes time.

So, everyone must not become an addict and aware about that.
The addiction may remain the same, but maybe drugs are more painful if they are in rehabilitation while gambling addiction does not need rehabilitation and it also won't be as painful as drug addicts feel pain, gambling addicts are only mentally damaged and that must be treated because only a poor mentality is make someone a gambling addict, believe me most of those who become addicts are poor people whose economy is middle to lower.

Rarely do we find rich people who become addicts, they will take advantage of the situation to become a streamer and get money from affiliates, which in the end is the middle and lower class users as the target, because that's a poor mentality that makes someone become an addict, obsessed with winning big and trying to beat the casino. really hard to beat. everything comes back again from his own desire to quit addiction. if there isn't that then it will be difficult.

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September 03, 2023, 12:35:16 PM
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To me, such addicts need to be severely punished by the law so they do not relapse. Stop other addicts.
I think if you gamble in a country that prohibits gambling, maybe there could be a law that could make gamblers stop gambling because of course there are certain punishments for gamblers, especially addicts, but it seems that they definitely won't be punished severely, usually they are given advice by professionals to stay away from gambling so they don't. become addicted, even so, the addict will continue to gamble again in secret.

It's true that gambling addiction is almost the same as drug addiction, but the punishment doesn't seem to be the same, especially if you play gambling in a country that frees gambling, of course addicts won't be able to be severely punished because they play in countries that legalize gambling and have freedom. the only way is to let the addict go bankrupt so that he can more easily wake up from his addiction.

In place where gambling is legal there's no punishments if you turn into a gambling addicted person, what might happen is when you already suffer from too much addictions you may do things that is not usual, committing crimes just to please your gambling activities may take place, from that view, you can be punish and the government will be able to put you into a situation where you needed to face your charges, but if you are not into that far, professional help maybe the best solution together with your self-will.

What kind of punishments are you talking about? You mean you can get legal consequences for turning into an addict? I know that gambling in general isn't allowed in some countries, but where do they make a differentiation between addiction and normal gambling?

I guess someone who is seriously addicted and gambling away their financial existence really doesn't need any legal consequences on top of that. What should that even be? A financial penalty maybe? Cheesy
I intend to punish those addicted to gambling who act against ethics, affecting society and even family members. They can do anything to gamble. They will steal or cheat to get money to gamble. They even kidnap and extort money. They stop at nothing to get money to gamble. I need really heavy legislation for people like that. Even their relatives punish them to prevent addicts like them from becoming criminals.

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I intend to punish those addicted to gambling who act against ethics, affecting society and even family members. They can do anything to gamble. They will steal or cheat to get money to gamble. They even kidnap and extort money. They stop at nothing to get money to gamble. I need really heavy legislation for people like that. Even their relatives punish them to prevent addicts like them from becoming criminals.

It is difficult what you are saying because the death penalty also doesn't keep people from killing others and get sentenced to death for murder.

I think if someone is willing to lose it all and even risk everything from someone else, including the health and wealth of others, they are probably so fucked up mentally that they need medical help and therapy at least in combination with legal consequences like jail or other punishments. The file isn't closed when you just send them to prison although that also helps sometimes.

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September 04, 2023, 08:58:01 AM
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Well combined with the kidnapping it is probably not a promotion stunt and I was referring to the comment before in more general terms.

But in terms of the kidnapping case swapping over to other places via the media, I am not sure how real that is and whether the thing happened as is reported. If it was the case, it is the worst someone can actually. But is such a story really shocking anymore? Think about people selling their kidneys for money to buy drugs and what not. There is so much shit going on then sometimes I feel even a horror story can't be a serious shocker anymore.
We can only assume that the news is true because we also don't know what really happened. And that is the worst thing a grandfather has done to his grandson by kidnapping him and asking his parents for ransom. Gambling addiction is related to a person's mental condition, especially if that person rarely wins when gambling, which makes him do the worst things. This requires serious attention from his family and they need to ask why he had the heart to do this to his grandson.

Yes and in my opinion it could be bullshit, meaning that they say they have won a big jackpot from an online casino but they cannot provide strong evidence or withdrawal history, well from that alone we can confirm that they are just bullshit. Some of my gambling colleagues also say that but the fact is it's a lie, I don't know what the reason is but maybe it's like they want to boast about themselves or maybe want to be a little superior to other gamblers from luck problems but not accompanied by evidence haha. And yes that's right, when they lose I'm 100% sure they won't say anything to their colleagues, most of them will hide the defeat because maybe they are ashamed that their luck is not as lucky as others.

Now for this I strongly agree, maybe most of the people including (gamblers) already know that the things they do are very disturbing to them in any way, first of all their finances will definitely not be stable or maybe they don't have any money at all, and secondly their mental and psychological state will also definitely be disturbed. The number of defeats they experience has made them seem unconscious, and therefore the impact of gambling is very dangerous, unconsciously you can do things unexpectedly without your awareness. And obviously it can really harm other people.
I think maybe they are used to showing off something more to other people so that if they lose, they will keep quiet and maybe show off the things they previously got. This will depend on his self-esteem because seeing him lie to get approval from others, it is clear that there is something wrong with him and he needs to change it. Their friends will shun those who just lie without being able to provide proof because everything they say about their victory is not accompanied by real evidence so their friends will not want to be friends with them because maybe later they will lie to them again.

Finances clearly will not be stable if they continue to gamble without self-control. It was true that he would be mentally and psychologically disturbed for a long time because all he could think about was gambling and he didn't want to do anything else. They won't realize that it's wrong and if someone tells them the truth, they probably won't be able to accept it and might get angry too. And yes, it can harm others around them.

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