Do you blame someone for your gambling losses?

[LUCKMCFLY]

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But if they only blame other people for making them lose money from gambling, it's not purely the fault of their friends because that person could have avoided it by saying no to gambling and choosing to go home. But we have no power to refuse it, and we will even follow our friends to play gambling. And if they lose, they try to get their money, but the harder they try, the more money they will lose on the gambling table.

Exactly, there is no one to blame even the bookies. In gambling, we put our hope for luck, not something that is certain to get. If someone loses and blames other people, maybe he needs to change his mind in gambling. Because gambling is not someone else's will, but his own will. When he made a deposit, it was his decision. Even if there are people who ask him to gamble, the decision is made from his decision and not from the one who invited him. When we lose and lose everything, that needs to be a reason to stop if we can. But if not, make it time to rest and change our gambling style. Maybe we are doing wrong while betting.

Here you always have to expect something, that always when we play the total responsibility rests with the player plus nobody, what's more, the casino does not force people to play, it does not force anyone to make high bets and no friend rolls for the friend to do it lose, if you take Advice from a friend, the one who is responsible for your actions is the person, it is not the friend, the friend gives his point of view, neither the casino nor the friend are to blame for what a player loses, because? because it is a responsibility, there is no other, if it is lost it will Always be the responsibility of the Person but not of third Parties.

[Franctoshi]

Looks like there's was a compromise in that judgement and judicial partiality played out here ,someone gambled away 5.6 million and where asked to pay 150,000 only ,too small when compared with the amount of money being gambled away despite being given 7 years of imprisonment. They're hold with two count charge here, criminal offense and false allegation. The state of this guys greediness was in the high place. Both persons might be two gamble addicts and should
have allowed to undergo some psychological evaluation to know their mental status.

[serjent05]

Usually as a gambler you are angry with a certain player or team, at least if you lost the bet because they did not score well. Actually, you can only blame 1 person and that is yourself, since you are gambling yourself. But at that moment you can't think straight and you only think about winning. It goes wrong because gamblers see their gambling as work, not gambling. But some gamblers also become aggressive in their behavior if they have lost a large sum of money but have angry outbursts as a result.

Gambling is not a team game like cricket or football where 11 players are playing and you get angry because one of them didn't play well and you lost the match because of him, but it's like a one-way street, it's only you and a single path in front of you, and it's totally up to you if you want to follow that path and go ahead or simply avoid it.

True gambling is only between the gambler and the gambling platform.  Any activity done by the gambler is according to his own accord and decision.  No one is pushing him to gamble so there is no reason to blame other in case the gambler suffered huge losses.

And if you decide to go ahead from that path, and when you face problems and consequences along the way, there is no one else to be blamed since you were standing alone at the beginning of that street and it was you who chose this path.

The gambler should be man enough to accept his losses.  He must take responsibility in whatever the result of his action so it is really very unethical and morally wrong to blame others when the problem is created by the gambler himself.

[nullama]

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The gambler should be man enough to accept his losses.  He must take responsibility in whatever the result of his action so it is really very unethical and morally wrong to blame others when the problem is created by the gambler himself.

Yes, that's in my view the correct mindset. Anything that happens to your life is your responsibility.

That might sound harsh to some, but in reality it's quite liberating because you don't depend on anyone else, you can change your life right now, without asking anyone. You just need to change your actions, and that's it.

[Silberman]

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The gambler should be man enough to accept his losses.  He must take responsibility in whatever the result of his action so it is really very unethical and morally wrong to blame others when the problem is created by the gambler himself.

Yes, that's in my view the correct mindset. Anything that happens to your life is your responsibility.

That might sound harsh to some, but in reality it's quite liberating because you don't depend on anyone else, you can change your life right now, without asking anyone. You just need to change your actions, and that's it.

This is called and internal locus of control, basically those that believe their actions are the main drive behind their outcomes are said to be like this, as you may imagine those which believe their luck or environmental factors are the most important when determining the outcomes of their actions have an external locus of control, and the research about this indicates that those with an internal locus of control become more successful as they are not willing to blame others for their own mistakes.

[nullama]

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This is called and internal locus of control, basically those that believe their actions are the main drive behind their outcomes are said to be like this, as you may imagine those which believe their luck or environmental factors are the most important when determining the outcomes of their actions have an external locus of control, and the research about this indicates that those with an internal locus of control become more successful as they are not willing to blame others for their own mistakes.

Interesting, I had no idea there was a specific concept relating to this. Here's the wikipedia entry if anyone is interested in reading further: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control

And here is a diagram with some examples about external locus of control:

[maydna]

Looks like there's was a compromise in that judgement and judicial partiality played out here ,someone gambled away 5.6 million and where asked to pay 150,000 only ,too small when compared with the amount of money being gambled away despite being given 7 years of imprisonment. They're hold with two count charge here, criminal offense and false allegation. The state of this guys greediness was in the high place. Both persons might be two gamble addicts and should
have allowed to undergo some psychological evaluation to know their mental status.

We'll never know if there was a compromise in the case. But that could happen to see that the amount to be paid is very small, as you said. And if both of them are gambling addicts, they should get additional punishment or perhaps, it's not punishment but some rehabilitation to cure gambling addiction. If it could be given to both of them, maybe they could change after the sentence was over so they wouldn't repeat his actions in the future. 7 years in prison is not a long time, and maybe it's good to make both of them reflect and learn from the mistakes they have made to others.

[Casdinyard]

Looks like there's was a compromise in that judgement and judicial partiality played out here ,someone gambled away 5.6 million and where asked to pay 150,000 only ,too small when compared with the amount of money being gambled away despite being given 7 years of imprisonment. They're hold with two count charge here, criminal offense and false allegation. The state of this guys greediness was in the high place. Both persons might be two gamble addicts and should
have allowed to undergo some psychological evaluation to know their mental status.

I guess it's all about how much they could pay at the moment given their financial status and all that. I've seen cases like this before (not gambling-related but money is still involved between relatives) and they are not really keen on putting charges that are beyond what the accused could pay. So it just makes sense, at least to me. Plus the 7 year charge I think was more than enough punishment considering how much money the prison's gonna make off of them.

They are definitely gambling addicts already, psychological evaluation could only lead to plead for insanity or something like that, which will prolong this case.

[carlisle1]

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The gambler should be man enough to accept his losses.  He must take responsibility in whatever the result of his action so it is really very unethical and morally wrong to blame others when the problem is created by the gambler himself.

Yes, that's in my view the correct mindset. Anything that happens to your life is your responsibility.

That might sound harsh to some, but in reality it's quite liberating because you don't depend on anyone else, you can change your life right now, without asking anyone. You just need to change your actions, and that's it.

This is called and internal locus of control, basically those that believe their actions are the main drive behind their outcomes are said to be like this, as you may imagine those which believe their luck or environmental factors are the most important when determining the outcomes of their actions have an external locus of control, and the research about this indicates that those with an internal locus of control become more successful as they are not willing to blame others for their own mistakes.

If you are good at taking full responsibility in each action that you are going to take, the chance of doing things in a careful manner might
always be with you.

Knowing that no one is to be blamed in each action that you are taking gives you that mentality to focus on what you are doing, even in gambling
it's you and no one should be blame with the direction you take your bankroll.

Win or lose, it's your money to take care and there's should be no one that will be involved whatever the outcomes.

[Vaskiy]

What the son and mom did together is kind of trick to get back what they've lost gambling. In the advanced technology based living each and everything will be easily caught. Before gambling one should understand well and do the right thing than just struggling after a massive loss. Some people loss funds from their accounts due to hacks. Those are exceptions, apart it is the gambler responsible for the loss. Whether it is sports betting or casino games, one should understand and gamble. Getting suggestions is good, but the end decision should be ours.

[nullama]

What the son and mom did together is kind of trick to get back what they've lost gambling. In the advanced technology based living each and everything will be easily caught. Before gambling one should understand well and do the right thing than just struggling after a massive loss. Some people loss funds from their accounts due to hacks. Those are exceptions, apart it is the gambler responsible for the loss. Whether it is sports betting or casino games, one should understand and gamble. Getting suggestions is good, but the end decision should be ours.

Yeah, but even in the case of hacking I would think the gambler is responsible. The hacked person could have been more careful with online activities, used a better password, etc.

Of course someone else did the active thing, but the gambler in that case did some things that allowed to create the situation the hacker took advantage of.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Sometimes people don't know how to hide their mistakes and want to take advantage of the system, then in such a case it is evident that people only think about winning Anyway, and it is easier to blame a casino for their Naivety or maybe for doing things are very bad, this is a behavior that has no cavities in honor or loyalty, apart from wanting to cheat a casino and not accept their mistakes, that is something that is really Painful, if you did not want to lose money,then why risked it? I don't understand it,but that's how there are Geners in the world.

It is human nature to blame others. It would be quite natural that in most cases, people are looking for scapegoats to be the victim being blamed. in this case, involving casinos and gambling. even so, overall I agree with what you say. not infrequently, someone's bad behavior comes out when circumstances are urgent. as told in this thread, mother and daughter are looking for their victims to blame for everything they have done. what is clear, actions like this cannot be justified in the end they get rewarded for what they have done by languishing in iron bars.

Really an action that is not appropriate for us to imitate, clearly a case like this is detrimental to itself. therefore, gamble according to what we can afford without harming other parties. blaming someone for a gambling loss, is not a commendable action. that's why awareness and responsibility are needed when we have this one hobby. because, gambling always involves risk and we gamblers must realize and understand it.

I think that a human being when he can do something like admitting his own mistakes is growing widely, it is not a bad thing to point out that we as players have more mistakes than hits, it is normal, as in trading things can happen in different ways just when we can see it in different ways, first if someone is blamed for our mistakes in the casino it is as a way of being able to take away the blame, but that will not return our money, the other way is , if the casino is blamed for wanting to " stealing from us" would remove all responsibility and make anything always blame the casino, that's something that is very bad, but there are people who do it and they are People who start to make a problem out of Everything they see.

[tusandii]

What the son and mom did together is kind of trick to get back what they've lost gambling. In the advanced technology based living each and everything will be easily caught. Before gambling one should understand well and do the right thing than just struggling after a massive loss. Some people loss funds from their accounts due to hacks. Those are exceptions, apart it is the gambler responsible for the loss. Whether it is sports betting or casino games, one should understand and gamble. Getting suggestions is good, but the end decision should be ours.

Yeah, but even in the case of hacking I would think the gambler is responsible. The hacked person could have been more careful with online activities, used a better password, etc.

Of course someone else did the active thing, but the gambler in that case did some things that allowed to create the situation the hacker took advantage of.

Yes in the case of hacking the real culprit was a gambler who was negligent of his online status and also the password he created.
Many gamblers are careless so they don't think about the consequences of their mistakes, maybe they just consider it a trivial thing, but in any gambling there is accountability so that in acting you must always be careful.

A crime or criminal act such as hacking can occur because of an opportunity and if the gambler gives this opportunity then everything is finished because the hacker can do whatever he wants.

[nullama]

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Yes in the case of hacking the real culprit was a gambler who was negligent of his online status and also the password he created.
Many gamblers are careless so they don't think about the consequences of their mistakes, maybe they just consider it a trivial thing, but in any gambling there is accountability so that in acting you must always be careful.

A crime or criminal act such as hacking can occur because of an opportunity and if the gambler gives this opportunity then everything is finished because the hacker can do whatever he wants.

Yeah, it all depends on how the system was exposed though.

I have no idea about the specifics of this case, but I think in most cases people just use weak passwords or leave accounts logged on, etc. Basic security is not done in many cases, so it could be something like that.

On the other hand it could have been a more sophisticated attack, in which even the latest security wouldn't work.

[danherbias07]

Looks like there's was a compromise in that judgement and judicial partiality played out here ,someone gambled away 5.6 million and where asked to pay 150,000 only ,too small when compared with the amount of money being gambled away despite being given 7 years of imprisonment. They're hold with two count charge here, criminal offense and false allegation. The state of this guys greediness was in the high place. Both persons might be two gamble addicts and should
have allowed to undergo some psychological evaluation to know their mental status.

Yeah, that's the story and it's sad to see that such people are using the law to get away from their problem and I do believe they are successful in doing it.
From millions to just a hundred thousand that needs to be paid back, I say it's a win for the gamblers here but on the wrong way.
Abuse of the law.
Indeed some psychological help is needed for these people and if proven that they are not in the right mental state, perhaps they could put them in the right facility to extend the rehabilitation. It will be difficult to just leave them walking with society because if they can bend the law against a big business what else worst thing they can do against individual people who they will borrow money from?
Gambling addiction is such a mess because it requires tons of money, and the expensive attribute of it may be worst than drugs and alcohol problems because of the continuous money-spending habit.

[dunfida]

What the son and mom did together is kind of trick to get back what they've lost gambling. In the advanced technology based living each and everything will be easily caught. Before gambling one should understand well and do the right thing than just struggling after a massive loss. Some people loss funds from their accounts due to hacks. Those are exceptions, apart it is the gambler responsible for the loss. Whether it is sports betting or casino games, one should understand and gamble. Getting suggestions is good, but the end decision should be ours.

Yeah, but even in the case of hacking I would think the gambler is responsible. The hacked person could have been more careful with online activities, used a better password, etc.

Of course someone else did the active thing, but the gambler in that case did some things that allowed to create the situation the hacker took advantage of.

Yes in the case of hacking the real culprit was a gambler who was negligent of his online status and also the password he created.
Many gamblers are careless so they don't think about the consequences of their mistakes, maybe they just consider it a trivial thing, but in any gambling there is accountability so that in acting you must always be careful.

A crime or criminal act such as hacking can occur because of an opportunity and if the gambler gives this opportunity then everything is finished because the hacker can do whatever he wants.

The thing that boggles me is on the time that how these people wasnt able to detect or notice it out that there are some unauthorized transactions made on their account until it did become big and something significant before they do make out some complaint? We know that in every transactions on your credit card or even debit would really be giving out that text notification which its impossible that its just that too late
before they file some complaint. We dont know whats the actual deal whether the hacking is really that real or just some alibi just because they had spend out their credit on playing on gambling
and just pretending that they didnt know?

We know that we do have lots of moduses on which people would be able to do as long it could benefit them out. As for general speaking about blaming your losses into someone
is something not that right. Its your responsibility and would really be facing up on whatever things or consequences lies ahead.

[doomloop]

I think that a human being when he can do something like admitting his own mistakes is growing widely, it is not a bad thing to point out that we as players have more mistakes than hits, it is normal, as in trading things can happen in different ways just when we can see it in different ways, first if someone is blamed for our mistakes in the casino it is as a way of being able to take away the blame, but that will not return our money, the other way is , if the casino is blamed for wanting to " stealing from us" would remove all responsibility and make anything always blame the casino, that's something that is very bad, but there are people who do it and they are People who start to make a problem out of Everything they see.

A person who tends to blame the casino for their losses should not gamble in the first place because they can't even take the blame for them losing their own money in gambling, such people are so extremely irritating and has useless natures, having a person like that around you makes you want to fight with them because they do things that you don't like at all.

I don't think that a casino would really care if a person blames them after losing money because they probably know that their claims have no value and even if they try and sue them for it, no one will really give any importance to what they say.

[Fesatmas]

A person who tends to blame the casino for their losses should not gamble in the first place because they can't even take the blame for them losing their own money in gambling, such people are so extremely irritating and has useless natures, having a person like that around you makes you want to fight with them because they do things that you don't like at all.

I don't think that a casino would really care if a person blames them after losing money because they probably know that their claims have no value and even if they try and sue them for it, no one will really give any importance to what they say.

There should be no one to blame here, one is betting on one's own volition, there is no second or third-party involvement and it is an individual decision for everyone. Healthy gamblers are those who are able to take responsibility for whatever results they will get, therefore the money factor that is used as a bet also greatly influences a person's psychology when gambling. Get used to gambling with cold money, meaning that with money you are ready to lose. It is a gamble where one will win if luck comes his way but the problem is that most people always think that they can be one of the lucky ones among the rest and the cycle will continue until they realize that they have lost it all. And finally, if luck wants to always come, then the only way is for them to become a dealer.

[masulum]

I don't think that a casino would really care if a person blames them after losing money because they probably know that their claims have no value and even if they try and sue them for it, no one will really give any importance to what they say.

Gambling players should be aware of what they have done. It would be stupid decision to blame provider, when he loss. If he can't prove the provider is cheating, then he won't get anything. Players like this are players who are not mentally ready to play gambling. They think gambling will bring a lot of money, but they are not ready to accept every loss. I think, the more he tells that the provider is cheating but can't prove it, and he can only prove that he has lost in a row history, then more people will laugh at him and say he was crazy because lose in gambling. However, when he loses it's not the provider's responsibility anymore, but his own responsibility for the money.

[tusandii]

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Yes in the case of hacking the real culprit was a gambler who was negligent of his online status and also the password he created.
Many gamblers are careless so they don't think about the consequences of their mistakes, maybe they just consider it a trivial thing, but in any gambling there is accountability so that in acting you must always be careful.

A crime or criminal act such as hacking can occur because of an opportunity and if the gambler gives this opportunity then everything is finished because the hacker can do whatever he wants.

Yeah, it all depends on how the system was exposed though.

I have no idea about the specifics of this case, but I think in most cases people just use weak passwords or leave accounts logged on, etc. Basic security is not done in many cases, so it could be something like that.

On the other hand it could have been a more sophisticated attack, in which even the latest security wouldn't work.

Maybe we don't know how, but a hacker is much smarter and has many ways to hack whatever he wants.
But there are several factors that make it easier for hackers to carry out their actions as I have stated before.
Maybe with caution and also always maintaining security can further minimize hacking actions.
But unfortunately hackers are far ahead of us so we can only try our best to avoid being hacked.