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April 29, 2023, 02:28:50 AM
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.



It appears that the mother and son have committed fraud by giving false information in their petition and accusing someone else of fraudulently transferring the funds without their authorization. That is absolutely mad idea and a total irresponsibility. It is not clear whether they are trying to make someone pay for something they didn't do or if there is a double standard involved. But of course all and all their actions are unethical and illegal, and they should be held accountable for their wrongdoing. Gambling away such a large amount of money is a serious matter, but it is not an excuse to engage in fraudulent behavior. If they don't they will surely do it again.

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April 29, 2023, 08:05:31 AM
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.

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April 29, 2023, 08:13:15 AM
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
Greed as usual, what can you expect from a addicted gambler?
I'm wondering who's the real gambler here, the son or the mother who influence his son to be a gambler too?
Now they are paying the karma for making false mistakes. Personally, I won't blame someone for my losses, first of all I don't let someone handle my finances, and second I know what I'm doing so every mistakes that I make I should be more responsible for that and accept that mistakes.
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April 29, 2023, 09:08:44 AM
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

For someone who has already lost so much money, a punishment with one more fine is indeed a very severe penalty.
I believe this was a desperate attitude on the part of someone trying to recover money that would certainly be sorely missed by this family.

Anyway, putting the blame on someone else in order to destroy the life of someone who has nothing to do with the fact is much more wrong.

However, I believe that freedom imprisonment and even forced community service would be more efficient than a fine, because how will they pay this fine now that they have already lost so much money in gambling?
I catch your drift, but I gotta push back. Slapping someone with a cell or community service for a non-violent misstep like gambling? That's not only overkill but straight-up counterproductive. We gotta switch gears, treating addiction and gambling woes as public health dramas, not crime sprees. Let's bankroll education, prevention, and rehab plans to help folks conquer their demons and bounce back.

On top of that, let's hold the gambling biz's feet to the fire for the damage they inflict. Profiting off people's cravings without an ounce of accountability or oversight? No dice. But let's not lose sight of the human angle. The one facing that hefty tab is probably in a world of hurt, and they need our understanding and empathy, not our shade.

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April 29, 2023, 09:27:42 AM
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

they both did the stupidest thing imo..their total loss was N5.6m + N150000 (peace fee) Cheesy

making false testimonies because losing to gambling is a very reckless thing, every gambling site must have a good problem-solving team and can't be fooled carelessly. I would never do stupid things like this because I gamble consciously and am ready for whatever happens in the end (win or lose).



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April 29, 2023, 09:44:29 AM
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Yes, you can put a blame on someone for your losses in gambling if that person contributed to your finanl decision in making that particular bet you lost, but you need to first blame yourself for being too open for receiving external feeds from others influencing your gambling decision, when you do do then you will now discover the more needs to make decisions by yourself in other not to regret any outcome being received, what keep me more concerned about this is that if you win, this same people will come out in telling others they make you win but when you loose, they wouldn't do that, rather they will keep mute.

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April 29, 2023, 10:38:37 AM
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Their tandem will lead them together as Partners in Crime that I think the fine is very tin to what crime they have committed .
better that they will be confined to rehabilitation and will let them stay there until realization about how they manage to act with that.
8000 dollars is not a small amount specially in the country they are living and better that there will be a much higher punishment for them.
because this will not stop here and there will be more victim in the future if their horn will not be cut now.









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April 29, 2023, 11:47:08 AM
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
Greed as usual, what can you expect from a addicted gambler?
I'm wondering who's the real gambler here, the son or the mother who influence his son to be a gambler too?
Now they are paying the karma for making false mistakes. Personally, I won't blame someone for my losses, first of all I don't let someone handle my finances, and second I know what I'm doing so every mistakes that I make I should be more responsible for that and accept that mistakes.
I agree with you that it's not fair to blame anyone for a gambling loss, it usually depends on the person. I think they bet out of greed without checking anything. Blaming others after a loss since there are gains and losses in gambling, it is not easy to determine when one becomes too much. It is not possible for a gambler to win consistently due to the successful use of game theory. Therefore it is easy to win if you make the right decision without being greedy.

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April 29, 2023, 03:07:08 PM
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Well, they have 2 options. Either stay in jail for 7 years or pay just 320$.

Well, I can't relate that much on this one because I myself isn't blaming anybody if I'm losing in gambling. I mean it's my own decisions to enter gambling so I will be the one who's to blame if I will lose my money. I guess the only scenario that we will blame gambling for our losses is that if some friend of yours tried to tell you to bet on a particular team, you bet on it and you lose. Maybe that's the time where you can blame your friend. Cheesy

How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.
It's gambling, and gambling isn't picky. Tongue

Nobody is safe from gambling addiction. Mother, father, son, daughter, cousins. All people can get addicted into gambling. As long as they tried it, and it come to a point where they want to spend more time with it then it's gambling addiction already. I guess the mother needs money, and she doesn't have any ways to earn money so she resorted to gambling. Either way, I agree with you that she didn't become a good model for his son, and it's quite unfortunate for the kid to be involved into gambling as such a young age.

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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
people like that cheat for their own benefit even just to gamble and lose must sacrifice others, that's really a fatal mistake let alone lying to everyone in general by making up stories and engineering so that their plays are successful then everyone is deceived too and finally a lot which is sacrificed only to make up for the money lost from gambling.

It's sad to see crimes like this really endanger everyone, not just one or two people who are affected but the whole society is also affected. I also often see stories like this but rarely get punished accordingly so they can commit crimes like that again, but the 7 year sentence the OP was telling me about wasn't sure it would make the mother and daughter change  Grin

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How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.
Here we see a picture of addicted gamblers. Both of them are addicted to gambling thee is no doubt about it. But I do not think that the attempt to rehabilitation or the means of punishing them is correct. What's wrong with a gambler gambling with his money? I will spend my money and i have the right. I will never accept blame for that. I am only responsible for managing the money in gambling so it will be the way I control it. Losses in gambling should never be blamed on others.

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April 30, 2023, 03:24:52 AM
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Try to trace out about the currency being used is Naira which means that this one happened on Nigeria.
Did make out some few research about the gambling laws and regulations in Nigeria and i found this one.

The law distinguishes between games of skill (which are legal) and games of chance (which are illegal). Legal forms of gambling include the lottery, land-based casinos and sports betting, whereas roulette, dice games and non-skilled card games are considered illegal.
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Thank you for your elaborating their laws and the links so it's now clear to me why they get punished.

I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.
As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.

if you have read the article. the money is on their Opay account. and they falsely alleged that someone used that money for sportsbetting. but maybe based from the investigations of EFCC, they were giving false claims that someone used their money for gambling to get back the money. but in reality, they were the ones who gambled the money, hence, charged of bordering false information.
and both mother and son pleaded guilty for such charges. so yeah, they did use it for sporsbetting and lost, and was trying to get funds back by saying that someone used their account without authorisation to get the money.
I see, so this might be the cause why they are punished and I don't see any likeliness that there's another reason why the authority had to punish them since their laws dictate that it's illegal to gamble on some certain games.

It's just too naive or stupid to blame someone if it's their account in the first place but action never lies so the authority probably asked people what are they doing on their daily lives. Probably someone told the authority that they were addicted with gambling so there's no need to prolong the investigation and they had to accept their punishment for what they did.

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How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.
Here we see a picture of addicted gamblers. Both of them are addicted to gambling thee is no doubt about it. But I do not think that the attempt to rehabilitation or the means of punishing them is correct. What's wrong with a gambler gambling with his money? I will spend my money and i have the right. I will never accept blame for that. I am only responsible for managing the money in gambling so it will be the way I control it. Losses in gambling should never be blamed on others.

The problem here is both the mother and son filed a false petition to EFCC blaming other individual for allegedly transferring their money in a sports betting account without their authorization. But actually they're just giving this false information obviously to get their money back even they're the ones who spent it in gambling.

Well, I agree with you that there's nothing wrong if you gamble your money because that's your right. However, blaming others and making up stories because you can't accept the outcome of your actions are a different thing. The moral story is don't gamble the money that you can't afford to lose and don't blame other people for your losses. In the first place, no one coerce you to gamble it's your own will.

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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
Greed as usual, what can you expect from a addicted gambler?
I'm wondering who's the real gambler here, the son or the mother who influence his son to be a gambler too?
Now they are paying the karma for making false mistakes. Personally, I won't blame someone for my losses, first of all I don't let someone handle my finances, and second I know what I'm doing so every mistakes that I make I should be more responsible for that and accept that mistakes.
Well addiction is a great and very difficult disease to fight and from the look of things, the mother has been the engineering force behind her son's gambling addiction and I see no reason why someone else would have access to your online account and even had to transfer your money to a betting platform and all you can do is gamble with betting house and how did the money and child get access to the betting account and rather than Making any bets, they would have reported to the casino if the act wasn't intentional and I guess they knew what they were getting involved with but as we all know that, no one dreams of losing in gambling as everyone wants to make it big in gambling.
I will just describe the act as a greedy one.

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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
Lol, that's a classic way to steal the bank's money and create a story that usually sells if the crime rate within a country or a specific city is pretty high. Like, if the guy who made up that story lived in a city where there are usual cases of robbery, he could have been able to get away with that, but he must have been pretty unfortunate.

About the mother and her son, that sounds like a lame story to me. Why would they not report the case if their money was stolen from their wallet until it was all gambled and lost? No wonder why they were not believed at all.

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April 30, 2023, 07:14:43 AM
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Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

Another crazy gambling related story. It always surprises me why people would bet so much money if they can't afford to lose it. By now everybody should know that there is no sure win when it comes gambling, we need to be prepared to lose our money if we gamble regularly. That is why the number one rule is to never gamble with money that we need in the near future. Trying to argue that there was a fraudulent transfer seems not very logical in today's time, we can follow any transfer and there will be records that show where the money went and for what it has been used. But still 7 years seems like a long prison sentence given that they both pleaded guilty. What I don't understand is that there is an option for a fine, does that mean they don't have to go to prison if they pay the fine?
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April 30, 2023, 08:23:37 AM
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
This particular case of the OP is pathetic, such people should be severely sentenced as they are evil and should not be appreciated in society. How can someone be so callous and dubious blaming a financial institution for the money they actually spent themselves? Well, it's still difficult for me to believe such a story despite being a practical case as they pleaded guilty.

People are just evil, this is beyond gambling blames to me.

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April 30, 2023, 10:13:43 AM
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Agree, bro.

Who has the intention to gamble?
If we gamble with our own intention, it is funny to blame other people. Losing during gambling is our own responsibility, we don't need to blame others.

People who blame others or casinos for their losses, can't control their emotions and can face reality. These types of people must stay away from gambling, they can't understand what gambling is.
apart from not being able to control their emotions, people who blame their losing gambling on other people or gambling sites are crazy people, how can they do that while when they make a deposit, this is done consciously and voluntarily

if I met someone like this I would hit them on the head with a sandal LOL

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Playing gambling is at individual risk, no one is to  be blamed if their is lose of money. Sueing someone for lose does not make any sense. Gambling is  meant for adults to make decisions to play or not, Gambling has rules which has never been stated that it is a crime to hold someone responsible for asking one to play gamble.

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April 30, 2023, 11:47:05 AM
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I hope we all learn something from this story that OP shared today, this is the reality of how cruel people can be when it comes to money, they gambled the money away themselves and they are looking for someone to take the blame, may we not be the victim of something we know nothing about, people are too wicked in this world, greed got them for good but they aren't ready for the loss, this is the same warming I am giving some people around me who loves to gamble too much, they go hungry because of gambling and they will call me to help them. Such people will find it hard to pursue a goal in life because all their minds will be robbed by gambling.

No wonder why my mother used to believe that the casinos or gambling havens owners are using some kind of Juju on the gamblers, because they will never be in their right state of mind after becoming addictive to gambling, sometimes, we really need to check ourselves, and ask questions.

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