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May 02, 2023, 01:23:51 PM |
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It is quite clear to me that people who lose money in one way or another are trying to outsmart the system (like this mother and son), but it is not clear to me that the punishment should be even 7 years in prison for such an act, and even less that the punishment can be replaced by a monetary one which is just a little more than $300 per person in this case.
For me, a fairer punishment would be to ban the mother and son from gambling, because they were found to be real addicts who have a serious problem. Such people should be helped to get rid of addiction, because punishment will not solve anything.
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May 02, 2023, 05:49:39 PM |
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It's sad to say that the Parents that should be the role model and the one who knows best for their children is the one who makes him at his worst, the addiction to gambling really makes your life miserable, if you are weak and you know to yourself that you are not mentally stable do not try to gamble, you dont know what you can do if you already addicted to it. They should not only fined, they should also get into rehabilitazion, that should be the best consequence for their action but hopefully they've learned their lessons,
There is no one to blame about your gambling losses but only yourself because you are the one who decide to gamble and you are the one who risk your money so why need to blame anyone if only consists yourself.
Yeah right, supposedly the parent is the one who will prevent the child into this kind of activities it's unusual act of putting your own kids to this kind of messed instead of saving them from the worse things that may happen to their lives, parents are the one who are in-charge to assure that they will be given a good life for their kids not to drag them any kind of illegal things. No one can be blame but the person itself, with what happens it should be a lesson that needs to learn to avoid certain things to happen to anyone. love your kids and don't bring them to any kind of act that will lead them to suffer.
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May 02, 2023, 06:02:04 PM |
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If I remember correctly, almost all gambling is banned in Japan (or Korea?)
No, Japan is okay, I don't know if Korea is. I recently play Pachinko in Japan 5 years ago. and, I think almost casino in Japan is open to everyone, except age. So, Pachinko in Japan is dominated by aged players but I have never seen a player under 17 years play with his mom like the post above. This situation makes me think that the more advanced that country, then have high the moral standards to do not invite his son to gamble. And, the government should not jail both (mom and son) at the same time ( 7 years), because the child doesn't knows anything, and better that son is get treated in a child protection home. To answer the question mentioned above, South Korea is not really a gambling-friendly type of country and here's their rule about gambling: Gambling by Korean citizens is prohibited both inside and outside of the nation.
However, In Korea, there are roughly 18 actual casinos that are designed only for foreign tourists, and any citizen belonging to Korea caught gambling faces harsh penalties. Only foreign tourists visiting the country can indulge in gambling activities and games. SourceJapan is different, the country is almost open to all types of gambling activities as long as it's deemed legal by the government and given that the gambler is above 20 years old. Back to the topic, I don't think that the mother is in the right mind because she drags her own son into her mess instead of setting a good role model to her son and I strongly agree about the judge's verdict because they are much better inside the prison as they literally need some help especially the son so that his life won't be totally destroyed and will be given another chance to straighten up his life when his jail time are over.
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May 02, 2023, 07:01:26 PM |
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Someone an undeveloped mind will always find a way to not blame himself but save face and blame someone else for their failure. It could be just an excuse but then there is just quit a lot to say when you as a parent teaching your kid to gamble together without care in losing it all. Not a good model indeed.
I don't think that a mother with such an evil soul and mind who can easily put the blame on her own gambling addiction and losses to someone else would really care about what her child learns from her as she will most probably be happy to teach him her evil tactics. She is probably not a good parent if we see it that way. You can barely find a parent who will involve their children in things like these unless there is a single mother who shares or does almost everything with her only son but still, things like these aren't to be told or taught to young people, she probably doesn't care if her child spends the rest of his life in prison.
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May 02, 2023, 07:26:52 PM |
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Someone an undeveloped mind will always find a way to not blame himself but save face and blame someone else for their failure. It could be just an excuse but then there is just quit a lot to say when you as a parent teaching your kid to gamble together without care in losing it all. Not a good model indeed.
Bad behavior indeed and it is not worth the example of a parent to behave, who knows what he thinks to bring his child to play gambling and throw stones and then hide hand. It is quite clear to me that people who lose money in one way or another are trying to outsmart the system (like this mother and son), but it is not clear to me that the punishment should be even 7 years in prison for such an act, and even less that the punishment can be replaced by a monetary one which is just a little more than $300 per person in this case.
For me, a fairer punishment would be to ban the mother and son from gambling, because they were found to be real addicts who have a serious problem. Such people should be helped to get rid of addiction, because punishment will not solve anything.
It is quite difficult to forbid them gambling, considering that gambling today is easier and can access gambling just by using a cellphone without anyone knowing, the penalty for gambling will never be effective. I think it's better in prison and being fostered by officers so they can feel deterrent with the actions they have taken.
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May 02, 2023, 08:16:56 PM |
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Someone an undeveloped mind will always find a way to not blame himself but save face and blame someone else for their failure. It could be just an excuse but then there is just quit a lot to say when you as a parent teaching your kid to gamble together without care in losing it all. Not a good model indeed.
Bad behavior indeed and it is not worth the example of a parent to behave, who knows what he thinks to bring his child to play gambling and throw stones and then hide hand. Obviously kids do not belong to the casino in any way, shape or form. Actually, assuming the child would grow up to become a gambler with problems of addiction then sooner or later would blame his old father of all the money and misfortunes he had to suffer for many years. And believe it or not, those kind of situations are more common than you think, unfortunately. Parents in this country do not allow children to do anything related to adulthood but still encourage them to learn card games, like poker or Truco. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 02, 2023, 09:46:14 PM |
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Someone an undeveloped mind will always find a way to not blame himself but save face and blame someone else for their failure. It could be just an excuse but then there is just quit a lot to say when you as a parent teaching your kid to gamble together without care in losing it all. Not a good model indeed.
Bad behavior indeed and it is not worth the example of a parent to behave, who knows what he thinks to bring his child to play gambling and throw stones and then hide hand. Obviously kids do not belong to the casino in any way, shape or form. Actually, assuming the child would grow up to become a gambler with problems of addiction then sooner or later would blame his old father of all the money and misfortunes he had to suffer for many years. And believe it or not, those kind of situations are more common than you think, unfortunately. Parents in this country do not allow children to do anything related to adulthood but still encourage them to learn card games, like poker or Truco. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Well there are really indeed corners in the world on which it is really that turning out that gambling is really that main thing that they could be able to deal with. We know that parenting does really play a huge role when it comes on raising up your kids. If you do let them engage on their early years then for sure on what you would be expecting on which it would turn out for them to be a gambling addict. Problems and issues been arisen basing up on the things that you had just neglected all over the years as a parent. For someone who arent really that mentally and emotionally prepared and you do find yourself to be engaging with gambling then turns out to be a huge mess or negative then it would really be just a normal approach or reaction on which you would really be pointing out fingers into someone or whatever you could be able to blame on which is really just a common behavior or reaction.
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May 02, 2023, 09:58:58 PM |
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I don't really have to do so... Atleast not exactly like they lost on the game with my own bucks? Not so... In this case, it's something different... This is act of wickedness, greed and desperation.. why would they wanna make someone suffer for what they outrightly knew wasn't the person's crime?.. addiction has caused alot of atrocities honestly... When I read articles like this, I'll simply wonder how it begone to get to that point.. how could they not control it when it was getting outta hand?? Could they have actually sourced for money somewhere to take the acclaimed person to court ?? (Cus, ofcourse you can't lay accusations off illegally.... that'll mean taking laws into your hands right??)? Hmmm Sandra 🧑🦰
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Well let me tell ya what, I sure don't see her winning mother of the mother of the year award anytime soon. This is super trashy for a mom to be teaching her son these types of ways, even if this son is a fully grown man...just smells pathetic.
No, I never would blame anyone else for my gambling losses. The other person you have to blame for your own gambling losses is your own self! No two ways about it.
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May 02, 2023, 11:03:29 PM |
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When you start employing the blaming games its already a sign that you are hooked on gambling, compulsive gamblers will try to hide their true character in gambling and they can do this by blaming others, based on the story OP provided she is not a good example to her son, I doubt if her son will respect her for being a compulsive gambler and for lying about the transferred funds. She should make up to her son even if she is in prison and she can start repenting and asking for forgiveness to her son.
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May 02, 2023, 11:12:36 PM |
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Pathetic people.
These are the people that you should avoid if you ever encounter one or two in real lives. They can't accept the reality that they've lost and trying to prove that it's not their fault that they've lost their money as they gamble.
Believe me, these people are no good and you don't want to be associated with them because they don't take things accountable for what they've done. Trying to run away and blame what they did to anyone that's just a fantasy, they should really get lost.
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May 03, 2023, 01:57:58 AM |
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Playing gambling is at individual risk, no one is to be blamed if their is lose of money. Sueing someone for lose does not make any sense. Gambling is meant for adults to make decisions to play or not, Gambling has rules which has never been stated that it is a crime to hold someone responsible for asking one to play gamble.
but this is what is happening mate, gamblers are looking for someone or something to blame so they will justify their addiction or losses. there are many people I knew in the past that has this attitude . but luckily ? i never become one because I took control of my gambling activity and I am in full obligation in what would be the outcome. When you start employing the blaming games its already a sign that you are hooked on gambling, compulsive gamblers will try to hide their true character in gambling and they can do this by blaming others, based on the story OP provided she is not a good example to her son, I doubt if her son will respect her for being a compulsive gambler and for lying about the transferred funds. She should make up to her son even if she is in prison and she can start repenting and asking for forgiveness to her son.
when we are dealing in something not normal in which excessive gambling , then that proves one thing that respect must not be for ours .
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May 03, 2023, 02:44:40 AM |
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSrZAbn3.png&t=665&c=H_Q98oaTXn7LlA) The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization. Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard. Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you. But I don't follow anyone's information in gambling, if someone has given me any information in sports betting, I must have checked it carefully before following it. As every gambling has ricks and these ricks will be borne only by the user himself. It would not be reasonable to impose this liability on anyone else in the event of a loss, and every gambler must be 18 plus years of age. A gambler is responsible for everything related to his own account. Here he cannot blame others in any way. And it is true that one should never gamble on the words of others. Any bet should be well researched beforehand. Because there is no guarantee in gambling, the risk is always high. One should not lose one's wits and blame others. Rather, by doing this, both people will have to face various problems.
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May 03, 2023, 03:17:20 AM |
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Pathetic people.
These are the people that you should avoid if you ever encounter one or two in real lives. They can't accept the reality that they've lost and trying to prove that it's not their fault that they've lost their money as they gamble.
Believe me, these people are no good and you don't want to be associated with them because they don't take things accountable for what they've done. Trying to run away and blame what they did to anyone that's just a fantasy, they should really get lost.
No one is exempt of making mistakes, we all make them, the difference is how we react to them, someone that is willing to accept the responsibility for their mistakes and does what is necessary in order to never repeat them is a person that over the long run is going to develop a very strong character, but those that refuse to accept the responsibility for their actions are people that you do not want in your life, because you never know when they are going to make a mistake and blame you for it, even if you had nothing to do with it.
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May 03, 2023, 10:34:27 AM |
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Pathetic people.
These are the people that you should avoid if you ever encounter one or two in real lives. They can't accept the reality that they've lost and trying to prove that it's not their fault that they've lost their money as they gamble.
Believe me, these people are no good and you don't want to be associated with them because they don't take things accountable for what they've done. Trying to run away and blame what they did to anyone that's just a fantasy, they should really get lost.
You are right. They will only blame other people if something is not the way they want and in this case, after playing gambling and losing, they will blame other people or even the gambling machine. Among our many friends, there must be friends like that and we shouldn't need to get too close to them so we don't get into trouble either. They will never grow up if they only blame others and don't want to introspect themselves. Yet by introspection, they will see whether their actions are right or wrong. And if it goes wrong, they can fix it so it doesn't happen again.
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May 03, 2023, 11:00:10 AM |
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You are right. They will only blame other people if something is not the way they want and in this case, after playing gambling and losing, they will blame other people or even the gambling machine. Among our many friends, there must be friends like that and we shouldn't need to get too close to them so we don't get into trouble either.
They will never grow up if they only blame others and don't want to introspect themselves. Yet by introspection, they will see whether their actions are right or wrong. And if it goes wrong, they can fix it so it doesn't happen again.
I will only blame someone if they're the ones that talked me into placing a gamble that I knew wasn't likely to play out. Gambling platforms always warn their users to be up to a certain age to be able to use thier platform and if you proceed to accept the terms and conditions, you have no moral right to blame anyone for your losses. Just like Bitcoin trading and investment, any bettor should always stake an amount of money he or she can afford to lose. Gambling addiction isn't an easy thing to overcome, it's better to stay away than fight the addiction. It's ideal to not give gambling predictions without proper analysis in order to avoid blames.
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May 03, 2023, 11:03:50 AM |
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That's so wrong. Well, they will be investigated if what they say is true. But I doubt they are. Not taking responsibilities for her own mistake, that's not a good lesson for the kid and he might do this kind of trick too when he grows up, worse this will be like his job. Gambling advertisements always tells us to gamble responsibly, and this is not how it is. It was said for a reason because we will end up like this case of the mother and son if we don't control out gambling habit. I don't blame anyone with all my losses, better, I actually keep it to myself because I am shy to let others find out that I lost my bet.
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May 03, 2023, 11:13:46 AM |
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSrZAbn3.png&t=665&c=H_Q98oaTXn7LlA) The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization. Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard. Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you. From what I have seen, a lot of people like to blame, and especially make false accusations against the casinos once they lose a substantial amount of money. You can see this happening almost daily on this forum. But its all hotheads trying to exact revenge or cheat their way into getting their money back. As far as the story of the mother and son goes, I think they totally deserve punishment for falsely accusing someone of a crime which could ruin that persons life, although 7 years seems a bit harsh, given the amount of money only being 8000 dollars worth of Naira- But that has absolutely nothing to do with gambling nor could it be blamed on gambling addiction since the crime here is false accusation. At most it could be seen as the result of gambling addiction. Thats still no excuse to do something that disgusting, though.
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May 03, 2023, 11:35:03 AM |
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I personally don't blame my own mistakes or unlucky moments to people around me. What happens to you 'was gonna happen', you had nothing to do to change result. Sometimes this destiny mentality can help you cope with losses. You can never change something that already happened anyways. You could try to avoid. Its all up to you. I saw weird people that blame others. I think its really annoying behavior. People should think that friendships are more important than money.
I don't blame others but when I am playing slots I don't want anyone to talk to me,not even my closest family members as when I see bad runs and bonus rounds giving me empty spins my level of rage is at the highest.This way I would start yelling if my wife talks to me for anything she may need,she knows that I gamble but she also knows that I have recovered addiction in 2020 and is still with me,I would yell and tell her that you are the most unlucky person in the world as I am in rage at those moments and she knows and does not say anything. That is why I play most of the time when I am alone rather than with people around me as bad situations will be created then. I see that. I also have rage attacks sometimes mainly disturbed by family members. Some people just don't understand what gambler feels like. When you keep losing and get blamed suddenly because of a luck based game, its normal you get angry. People see this as "its nothing bro chill, i just joke". But its definitely time to not be mocked by anyone around you. If you could recover from your gambling addiction through enjoying lonely gambling runs I congratulate you. I guess its fine. Gambling when you are calm can work better even.
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May 03, 2023, 11:47:30 AM |
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That's so wrong. Well, they will be investigated if what they say is true. But I doubt they are. Not taking responsibilities for her own mistake, that's not a good lesson for the kid and he might do this kind of trick too when he grows up, worse this will be like his job. Gambling advertisements always tells us to gamble responsibly, and this is not how it is. It was said for a reason because we will end up like this case of the mother and son if we don't control out gambling habit. I don't blame anyone with all my losses, better, I actually keep it to myself because I am shy to let others find out that I lost my bet.
I really don't understand people who are blaming others in loses , i mean in the first place before you bet its your choice to do it and if you lose then you shouldn't blaming others as they are not the one who bet it. Those kind of people should be avoided as for sure it will lead to altercation or even a fight. Even my self no matter what fault or loses that I've been through i wont be blaming others.
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