Do you blame someone for your gambling losses?

[BitDane]

The law distinguishes between games of skill (which are legal) and games of chance (which are illegal). Legal forms of gambling include the lottery, land-based casinos and sports betting, whereas roulette, dice games and non-skilled card games are considered illegal.
Souce

Isn't the statement conflicting? Since the quoted stated that game of chance is illegal, how come lottery and land based casinos is legal?  We all know lottery is one of the most famous game of chance.  If game of chance is illegal then this should be illegal.   So I think any gambling not regulated by the government is illegal, may it be skill based or chance based when it is unlicensed then it is illegal.

This is one question that i do have in mind is that why they would be penalized on something that they do spend out? If this one pertains about playing on an illegal aspect
then its normal that they did really commit out some violation but of course they would be having that reasoning.

The fact that they commit illegal actions through illegal gambling activity, they will sure get penalized.  In my country, if someone is caught engaging in illegal gambling, they are jailed and fined according to the law.  I think these mother and son excuses themselves from such illegal activity by giving a reason that someone moved their fund, the innocent approach but they are caught empty handed that make them admit the lies.  Thus they are sentenced to 7 years of imprisonment or pay the penalty.

[Aikidoka]

Yes, I blame someone.

Especially for the people who are playing at "Blackjack" tables play with basic strategy because it's f*cking make me mad if they not playing with basic strategy. Scared to hitting, while in the book they should hitting.

Because of these lack knowledge player, can make me lose. I want to punch him in the face ~XD

I have also experienced this similar issue while playing gambling games against people, particularly with players who do not follow any strategy. It can be frustrating to play against them since it is difficult to predict their moves.

Their unpredictable moves can make it challenging to predict their next move and often result in losses, even if they are not particularly skilled at the game, they'd just be scared to do the usual thing but they surprise you by using another moves. I must admit that I have lost several times to these kinds of players myself

[Peanutswar]

This kind of story is nothing new only happens to the people who wants to blame other for the consequence, they just want to blame others to keep out their gambling cases, recently the banks still have an issue but in that case most of the transactions today are now getting verified and if that case that the court will know that they have a background in some gambling activity this might remove the file case to the organization handled their money instead these kind of actions are now liable with the mother and the son. There are no safe haven in playing gambling.

[ethereumhunter]

Playing gambling is at individual risk, no one is to  be blamed if their is lose of money. Sueing someone for lose does not make any sense. Gambling is  meant for adults to make decisions to play or not, Gambling has rules which has never been stated that it is a crime to hold someone responsible for asking one to play gamble.

Sometimes someone invites his friends to play gambling and they both experience the same defeat. His friend could blame that person for asking him to gamble and causing him to lose. This has often been encountered and not infrequently ends with the breakup of the friendship. But they both know what the risks of gambling are and can accept whatever the outcome is, they won't blame each other and can even keep laughing while lamenting their defeat. This requires maturity on the part of a person to know that anything he does in gambling can cost him money.

[Yamifoud]

Yes, some people are right for not blaming others because it was our choice to be here and gamble our money. Indeed, it was not right but I hate to say that sometimes it happens especially if having terrible losses because of that person. I surely cannot hold my tempter. Therefore, before we gamble we have to be sure that whatever happens to our funds is still okay. No hurt feelings when it is a loss and no blaming should be done otherwise, we put an end to our gambling life as it was not healthy, and ain't doing this for entertainment anymore but it was already a chase of winning.

[KTChampions]

The law distinguishes between games of skill (which are legal) and games of chance (which are illegal). Legal forms of gambling include the lottery, land-based casinos and sports betting, whereas roulette, dice games and non-skilled card games are considered illegal.
Souce

Isn't the statement conflicting? Since the quoted stated that game of chance is illegal, how come lottery and land based casinos is legal?  We all know lottery is one of the most famous game of chance.  If game of chance is illegal then this should be illegal.   So I think any gambling not regulated by the government is illegal, may it be skill based or chance based when it is unlicensed then it is illegal.
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Everywhere there are such paradoxes. If I remember correctly, almost all gambling is banned in Japan (or Korea?) but betting on horse/dog racing is legal. What is the logic? I can't bet on a football game, but I can bet on which dog will run to the finish line first? I think this is only the influence of lobbying groups and nothing more. The very essence of the law is indifferent to everyone.

[Taskford]

Playing gambling is at individual risk, no one is to  be blamed if their is lose of money. Sueing someone for lose does not make any sense. Gambling is  meant for adults to make decisions to play or not, Gambling has rules which has never been stated that it is a crime to hold someone responsible for asking one to play gamble.

Sometimes someone invites his friends to play gambling and they both experience the same defeat. His friend could blame that person for asking him to gamble and causing him to lose. This has often been encountered and not infrequently ends with the breakup of the friendship. But they both know what the risks of gambling are and can accept whatever the outcome is, they won't blame each other and can even keep laughing while lamenting their defeat. This requires maturity on the part of a person to know that anything he does in gambling can cost him money.

Maybe he hype his friend so much that's why he was been blame about bad situation happen to him. To avoid this its really better to tell all information they needed since if his friend can understand the risk of their games played then they will never mock at you but instead healthy discussion will be build up and  possibly that they can create good plan towards the options they want to try on.

Its good that your friend understand the risk and its condition so that you can avoid blame game and can create good eye view to influence people to gamble responsibly and take care on their capital set.

[darewaller]

I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

I believe they have a family history of being a compulsive gambler because they can pretend that they really hacked if they don’t have history of gambling. KYC is not an issue since they loss the money and probably casino doesn’t asked them to do KYC since they didn’t manage to withdraw the funds. KYC typically applied when they already want to withdraw the funds. I think the prosecution evidence on this case are their family  background since a mother and son not typically joining together to gamble if they didn’t do this most of the time.

With this, they just waste money on fine or jail time instead of just accepting the losses.

So gambling addictions are like genes too that can be passed? Interesting but I think it does not come naturally. Maybe the parents gambles carelessly even if their children are around so there is a tendency that the kids will copy it and worse is the parents just allow their kids to gamble.

That's too irresponsible. KYC is not the real issue here but it's about being addicted. KYC or not, an addicted gambler won't care only to continue playing but there are casinos which mandate KYC during the start or when you are still signing up on them. Not only they lose money but they also lost their morals but I think they don't really care about the opinion of other people. What is only important for them is to recover their money.

[len01]

Sometimes someone invites his friends to play gambling and they both experience the same defeat. His friend could blame that person for asking him to gamble and causing him to lose. This has often been encountered and not infrequently ends with the breakup of the friendship. But they both know what the risks of gambling are and can accept whatever the outcome is, they won't blame each other and can even keep laughing while lamenting their defeat. This requires maturity on the part of a person to know that anything he does in gambling can cost him money.

of course it started with the two people using money that they couldn't afford to lose so that when they both lost at gambling they would definitely blame each other and end up being enemies with each other, that was very bad.
but it's normal for someone who loses money at gambling to become emotional because it's a natural hormone of mind that appears to remember the lost money and feel disappointed and take it out on others.

[Sterbens]

of course it started with the two people using money that they couldn't afford to lose so that when they both lost at gambling they would definitely blame each other and end up being enemies with each other, that was very bad.
but it's normal for someone who loses money at gambling to become emotional because it's a natural hormone of mind that appears to remember the lost money and feel disappointed and take it out on others.

It sounds ridiculous, how can we blame people who invite us to gamble, someone can get to know gambling because it can't be separated from their environment, and on average they are already in their teens and have a very high curiosity. This should prevent them from blaming each other when they lose at gambling, because before doing so you can be sure they already know the risks. Losing money is a very common risk in gambling, I will only enjoy it when I lose.

[BitcoinPanther]

Kinda dumb as a petition though. I mean, I reckon it should be pretty easy to find traces (plus most gambling related stuff need KYC nowadays).

I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

When I think of the case and reading the Nigerian law stated by the replies here, I think the mother and son chooses to lie about their gambling activity to avoid being charged of illegal gambling.  So they claim that they don't have any idea and just found out that there are illegal transfers from their account which later on the mother and child admitted that they are telling a lie and they personally do the transfer to bet.

I believe they have a family history of being a compulsive gambler because they can pretend that they really hacked if they don’t have history of gambling. KYC is not an issue since they loss the money and probably casino doesn’t asked them to do KYC since they didn’t manage to withdraw the funds. KYC typically applied when they already want to withdraw the funds. I think the prosecution evidence on this case are their family  background since a mother and son not typically joining together to gamble if they didn’t do this most of the time.

With this, they just waste money on fine or jail time instead of just accepting the losses.

I think not only history but they are themselves are compulsive gamblers.  Reason why even if they are doing illegal gambling, they can't stop because they have this uncontrollable urge to gamble.  They could have avoid the charges if they are playing with legal gambling games allowed by the state, but obviously the authority find out that the are engaging with illegal gambling activity.

[BobK71]

I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

I believe they have a family history of being a compulsive gambler because they can pretend that they really hacked if they don’t have history of gambling. KYC is not an issue since they loss the money and probably casino doesn’t asked them to do KYC since they didn’t manage to withdraw the funds. KYC typically applied when they already want to withdraw the funds. I think the prosecution evidence on this case are their family  background since a mother and son not typically joining together to gamble if they didn’t do this most of the time.

With this, they just waste money on fine or jail time instead of just accepting the losses.

So gambling addictions are like genes too that can be passed? Interesting but I think it does not come naturally. Maybe the parents gambles carelessly even if their children are around so there is a tendency that the kids will copy it and worse is the parents just allow their kids to gamble.

That's too irresponsible. KYC is not the real issue here but it's about being addicted. KYC or not, an addicted gambler won't care only to continue playing but there are casinos which mandate KYC during the start or when you are still signing up on them. Not only they lose money but they also lost their morals but I think they don't really care about the opinion of other people. What is only important for them is to recover their money.

Nothing good can be expected from an addicted gambler. Moreover, if a minor is addicted to gambling, it may be due to the carelessness of his parents. But only KYC cannot provide any solution in this regard. Because nowadays many people can complete KYC with their parents' documents. Here, in case of minor, father and mother should take adequate care. And if he is an adult then if he does not try to protect himself from that addiction then it is not possible to bring that gambler back to the right path by others.

[nullama]

I would even go further, and say that if you constantly blame someone else for your issues, then your life will probably never be great.

If, on the other hand, you take the responsibility for everything that happens to you, then you are in a position of power, because you can change yourself, and by changing yourself you can change your life.

Blaming someone else removes your power. Don't do it if you want a great life. Take full responsibility of everything that happens to you in life.

[Mahanton]

I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

I believe they have a family history of being a compulsive gambler because they can pretend that they really hacked if they don’t have history of gambling. KYC is not an issue since they loss the money and probably casino doesn’t asked them to do KYC since they didn’t manage to withdraw the funds. KYC typically applied when they already want to withdraw the funds. I think the prosecution evidence on this case are their family  background since a mother and son not typically joining together to gamble if they didn’t do this most of the time.

With this, they just waste money on fine or jail time instead of just accepting the losses.

So gambling addictions are like genes too that can be passed? Interesting but I think it does not come naturally. Maybe the parents gambles carelessly even if their children are around so there is a tendency that the kids will copy it and worse is the parents just allow their kids to gamble.

That's too irresponsible. KYC is not the real issue here but it's about being addicted. KYC or not, an addicted gambler won't care only to continue playing but there are casinos which mandate KYC during the start or when you are still signing up on them. Not only they lose money but they also lost their morals but I think they don't really care about the opinion of other people. What is only important for them is to recover their money.

Nothing good can be expected from an addicted gambler. Moreover, if a minor is addicted to gambling, it may be due to the carelessness of his parents. But only KYC cannot provide any solution in this regard. Because nowadays many people can complete KYC with their parents' documents. Here, in case of minor, father and mother should take adequate care. And if he is an adult then if he does not try to protect himself from that addiction then it is not possible to bring that gambler back to the right path by others.

Not all guardian or parents who would really be blamed if ever their children did really engage into something because we know that no matter how hard we do teach up those good deed or ways of living, it wont really be assure that it would really be applied or would be followed by your children.We do know that in todays world on which there are lots of distractions which it would really be leading out into those things which
we didnt even can believe that it did really happen.Thing here is that you've been here for them in case shit things happen. Speaking about blaming someone for your gambling losses then it is really a normal behavior of someone who do fall out into this kind of thing on which it would really be that normal that they would be having this kind of reaction because we cant really easily accept our mistakes but if things comes
worst then there's nothing you can do because no matter how hard you do point up your fingers, we arent that blind not to determine on whose the real at fault on this one.

[STT]

Very common strategy to deflect blame, childish even when people do this.   Its the type of thing any court will see every day commonly and in the end have to ignore as any viable excuse and punish when sentencing.   Its the opposite of taking responsibility and will lead to reoccurrence of the factors that led to the criminal charges hence a court will often be more harsh for people that try to excuse themselves in this way.

When trying to get away with a crime, dont be lazy about it.  The detectives and court themselves literally have a thousand times your experience, if you are saying what every criminal says you appear like an idiot in your denials.

[danherbias07]

I would even go further, and say that if you constantly blame someone else for your issues, then your life will probably never be great.

If, on the other hand, you take the responsibility for everything that happens to you, then you are in a position of power, because you can change yourself, and by changing yourself you can change your life.

Blaming someone else removes your power. Don't do it if you want a great life. Take full responsibility of everything that happens to you in life.

Very nice advice right there.
I don't think anyone who just keeps on blaming his own mistakes on others is going to be successful in their life. Somewhere down the road, it will eat him/her up and it will only be a life full of regrets and hopelessness.
Being responsible for our own mistakes is what makes us stronger in life, not just in our gambling activities but also in our choices. I remember one time I bet on a big game for the underdog and my friend keeps on telling me I should take the favorite team. When my bet lost, I didn't blame anyone for my mistake but instead, I just got over it and take it as a good learning experience to sometimes listen to the people near you than being full of pride.

[NicNacCoin]

Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do?

The fact that the mother and son have been jailed for seven years is significant because the mother and son gave wrong information in gambling betting and following that wrong information someone suffered a loss of 7 million Nigerian currency Nairo. I can't blame mother and son in this case because if someone gave me wrong information or signal then I should have observed well before I followed that signal. I can't support this seven-year jail of mother and son in any way.
In my personal life I spend some of my time gambling but in this case if someone gives me a signal from an outside source I do not act on the signal until I verify it myself. There are certainly risks involved in gambling but I don't think it's fair to put the blame for that risk on someone else.

[Chikito]

If I remember correctly, almost all gambling is banned in Japan (or Korea?)

No, Japan is okay, I don't know if Korea is. I recently play Pachinko in Japan 5 years ago. and, I think almost casino in Japan is open to everyone, except age. So, Pachinko in Japan is dominated by aged players but I have never seen a player under 17 years play with his mom like the post above. This situation makes me think that the more advanced that country, then have high the moral standards to do not invite his son to gamble.

And, the government should not jail both (mom and son) at the same time ( 7 years), because the child doesn't knows anything, and better that son is get treated in a child protection home.

[Weawant]

Nothing good can be expected from an addicted gambler. Moreover, if a minor is addicted to gambling, it may be due to the carelessness of his parents. But only KYC cannot provide any solution in this regard. Because nowadays many people can complete KYC with their parents' documents. Here, in case of minor, father and mother should take adequate care. And if he is an adult then if he does not try to protect himself from that addiction then it is not possible to bring that gambler back to the right path by others.

An addict must be willing to stop gambling himself or to reduce his gambling time by himself before any external body can step in to help him get his desire goals. Going to force those goals on a gambler that's addicted without his approving is a waste if time.

First he has to subconsciously agree and then everything will move smoothly, addicts are very depress and can do unthinkable things just to get what they want. They can buy KYC from online to get access to the gambling sites, we don't have to blame their parents.

As a parent, you just have to do the best they can do in training their children and it's left for the children to choose the path that they'll follow. As a parents you can't do it all which is why you need the help of others to help with your children training.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe he hype his friend so much that's why he was been blame about bad situation happen to him. To avoid this its really better to tell all information they needed since if his friend can understand the risk of their games played then they will never mock at you but instead healthy discussion will be build up and  possibly that they can create good plan towards the options they want to try on.

Its good that your friend understand the risk and its condition so that you can avoid blame game and can create good eye view to influence people to gamble responsibly and take care on their capital set.

We don't know that but if both of them knew about the risks of gambling, they wouldn't make fun of each other because they both went through the same experience. What is important is that they can feel the experience of playing the game together and get the same experience and of course, they can enjoy the atmosphere at the gambling place. Plus, if they can enjoy the game, they might come back to the casino another day to enjoy some time together. It's better to leave all the negative thoughts in each other to avoid disturbing the friendship.

of course it started with the two people using money that they couldn't afford to lose so that when they both lost at gambling they would definitely blame each other and end up being enemies with each other, that was very bad.
but it's normal for someone who loses money at gambling to become emotional because it's a natural hormone of mind that appears to remember the lost money and feel disappointed and take it out on others.

If they blame each other for losing at gambling, it could end in a fight because each will stand by his stance and don't want to be blamed. This will also make them emotional and could damage their friendship. For this reason, maturity is needed to accept all the risks that arise from gambling so that they will not blame each other and can still have fun. Or should they not need to play gambling together rather than blaming each other if they lose.