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June 25, 2023, 06:37:38 PM
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Bayern I can understand because they are getting into a new thing with Tuchel and all, which means that it may not be that simple and I can see that. But Real is on the verge of becoming maybe (possibly) the best team we have ever seen in a long long time. These guys are trying to get Mbappe this summer, they may or they may not, or maybe they will get him next season. If they can do that, between the amazing midfield they have, and the great defense they have, they will have an unbelievable level wingers and striker as well.

Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.

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There is really no way that any team could beat a real team with Mbappe on their roster. Ancelotti might be gone, there are talks about that, they will need a great manager to see through that team as well, it might be very valuable.

If Mbape and Vinicious play along side, another history of Benzema and Real Madrid will be made again in the history of Real Madrid but will this really happen? This is a dream I want to see come to realization, the asking price of Mbape is not worth it in my opinion.

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June 25, 2023, 07:56:34 PM
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Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

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June 25, 2023, 09:36:21 PM
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Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.
Actually, Tuchel has provided the maximum strategy to be given to Bayern Munich, but for some reason Bayern Munich still fails in the champions league.
I know that Tuchel has always tried to bring his club to reach the highest point as was given to Chelsea in the past but it seems like the Bayern Munich players are unable to follow Tuchel's strategy so they still fail in the champions league.
In this new season, I only hope that Tuchel will try again to give his best for Bayern Munich to qualify for the champions league.

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June 25, 2023, 09:41:23 PM
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Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.
I'm also pessimistic about Real Madrid next season, but that won't be an exaggeration. I can still hope they do well next season even if we lose Benzema, but I don't know if we will really suffer after losing him.

The fact is, Benzema is a striker that Real Madrid have relied on for many seasons. The reliance on good performances has led us to win some great titles, but of course the impact of his departure is likely to be unavoidable as long as Real Madrid do not find a suitable replacement. I know some people disagree with my assumptions, but I have what I have to say about the possibility. So when Real Madrid comes to the Champions League next season, then I know we are not a team that is more favored than other teams.
Transfers this summer have not ended even though Perez said that they will not add any more players at this time but of course we can't take that for granted and now we just have to wait and see whether they will be satisfied with only Joselu and Brahim Diaz or is there surprise with the players they did bring back this time.
Pessimism is quite natural because indeed in the last few seasons Madrid has always fixated on Benzema but of course there must be regeneration that happens and now is the time for Madrid to do that.
The answer is of course we just have to wait for their steps to prepare for next season.

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June 25, 2023, 10:17:47 PM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

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June 25, 2023, 11:01:30 PM
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The Champions League in particular is never a safe bet, but it also makes it the most interesting competition if you ask me. All the little things that decide between success and failure. Some individual toP performances of one player or an unlucky penalty and so many other things. You need strong and consistent performances and you usually won't win it without luck. Depending on how good a team performs, luck is still a contributing factor. And yet I would also say that Manchester City is again the favorite in terms of the odds. It is like if I had to choose a team, I would choose Manchester City.

Considering the most recent result and how strong Manchester City are most people would side with them to win the title 2 times in a row. However it is really risky to bet on them anyway. Because mostly we see different champions in consecutive years. Therefore it is a big risk to bet so much money on Manchester City at a really low odd. But if one is just planning to bet on them just for fun with a small amount then it wouldn't be important if they lose their bet of course.

But to have fun about this I think the best thing to do is to bet on a team with a much higher odd and watch the journey of that team in the Champions League.  Grin

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June 25, 2023, 11:15:34 PM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Im not sure about this. Even though ancelotti is still stay until 2023 but he will be leaving from the club next season. Real madrid must have prepared his successor.
I think that any team are still having the same chance to win UCL at this moment. Real madrid's chance is not even bigger compared with manchester city. City's squad is still remain the same and there will be only a slightly change in the composition in the club as gundogan will be replacement by kovacic.

Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.
Even pep was also trying to chase more and more superstars in premier league. Recently, pep was trying so hard to get rice and gvardiol.
These players have very big price tag at this moment. I hope city will able to be back to back champion again next season.

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Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.
I'm also pessimistic about Real Madrid next season, but that won't be an exaggeration. I can still hope they do well next season even if we lose Benzema, but I don't know if we will really suffer after losing him.
The fact is, Benzema is a striker that Real Madrid have relied on for many seasons. The reliance on good performances has led us to win some great titles, but of course the impact of his departure is likely to be unavoidable as long as Real Madrid do not find a suitable replacement. I know some people disagree with my assumptions, but I have what I have to say about the possibility. So when Real Madrid comes to the Champions League next season, then I know we are not a team that is more favored than other teams.

Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

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June 26, 2023, 04:04:18 AM
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It is too early to make sure about Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Because it hasn't been even much time since we entered the summer transfer window. There is a long time period ahead of the teams to make their signings and be prepared for the Champions League journey. Until finding out the final version of their squads it is difficult to be confident about something.
For me Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern munich are the 3 strongest football teams in the world in the last few years and therefore they are always among the top favorites to win the Champions League before the start of the season.
This time though it is not sure yet how strong Real Madrid a d especially Bayern Munich will really be, because both teams still need to make some important transfers in order to strenghthen their sqads. Real has already signed Bellingham while has not made any big transfer yet.

Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.
Manchester City from English Premier League, Real Madrid from La Liga and Bayern Munich from German League are always favorites especially in UEFA Champions League. But last season did not go well for Bayern Munich. They were eliminated from the Champions League in the quarter-finals against Manchester City, and Real Madrid were eliminated from the Champions League in the 202–23 season after losing to Manchester City in the semi-finals. The Manchester City squad remains the same so far but there are some changes at Real Madrid and there could be some changes at Bayern Munich as well. Bayern Munich are likely to let Sadio Mané go. If anything like that happens, Bayern Munich will be a bit behind last season. But I hope that will not be the case with Real Madrid. Because they are able to go far in the Champions League even with the current team.

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June 26, 2023, 04:47:37 AM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

I think, Real Madrid coach still have something good to offer to the team in this season because he Really did well last season that made the team to achieved trophy and some of their players was very happy for the award given to them for the excellent performance they displayed through out the UEFA champions league last season. Despite the poor performance they experienced in this season, but they still maintain second position in the la Liga league competition and also qualified for semi-finals in the UEFA champions league, which are some of the good displays the coach has displayed that made the Real Madrid management to have full confident in him that he will use next season to make the fans happy by helping the team to achieve many titles.

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June 26, 2023, 05:57:04 AM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Real Madrid will still be led by Ancelotti until next season and this will be the last chance to bring Real Madrid back to win the Champions League title with a much better squad than before. Meanwhile, Manchester City will still be the favorite champions for next season and that is undeniable with the depth of their current squad. But after being left by captain Gundogan who joined Barcelona, now Manchester City must find a new person who is able to lead this team on the field and it is Pep Guardiola's job to give this important task to one of his players. I agree that these two teams will still be strong candidates to win the champions league, but they must not be complacent because there will be several other strong European teams ready to surprise the match later.

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June 26, 2023, 05:57:59 AM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Ancelotti is still in charge of Real Madrid for next season before resuming work as coach of the Brazil national team, he will try to give his best for Real Madrid in his final season. Last season's failures have opened Florentino Perez's eyes to immediately refresh the Real Madrid squad, Bellingham's arrival can provide Ancelotti with many options in the midfield area. Real Madrid is also hunting for a quality striker in order to improve the quality of his attacks.
Manchester City's success in winning the treble winner has motivated coaches and players to repeat their success next season, Manchester City are the defending champions, of course the team led by Guardiola is the favorite to win the UCL trophy next season.

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June 26, 2023, 06:16:25 AM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Real Madrid will still be led by Ancelotti until next season and this will be the last chance to bring Real Madrid back to win the Champions League title with a much better squad than before. Meanwhile, Manchester City will still be the favorite champions for next season and that is undeniable with the depth of their current squad. But after being left by captain Gundogan who joined Barcelona, now Manchester City must find a new person who is able to lead this team on the field and it is Pep Guardiola's job to give this important task to one of his players. I agree that these two teams will still be strong candidates to win the champions league, but they must not be complacent because there will be several other strong European teams ready to surprise the match later.
maybe in the next season Real Madrid will still be in tight competition with Man City because the two coaches Ancelotti and Guardiola have pocketed their respective weaknesses from the strategy given in the champions league. on the one hand, Man City has already secured several players who will replace Gundogan to improve the team's performance and Real Madrid is also continuing to look for reliable players to be able to beat Man City next season.
I just imagine that if Harry Kane can be bought by Real Madrid and join Los Blancos I think it will not be impossible for Madrid to be able to win back the UCL title from Man City.

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June 26, 2023, 06:48:35 AM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
And if I may ask which clubs you have in mind, to be the winners of the champions league, I feel it will be too difficult for anyone to predict what's going to happen next season, I see that most people want to be judging last season performance to that of next season which I feel is impossible, am sure a lot of surprises will come from different clubs, next season and even the champions will come as a surprise, even inter milan making it to the final I was surprised and Real Madrid did not make it, even after playing well against manchester city in the first leg, and were wonderfully defeated by manchester city in the second leg. I don't see City having the opportunity next season.

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Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.


Ancelotti has been one of the best developers in real Madrid and his presence in real Madrid has also earned him some merit, I feel he should stay and even manchester city does not have all they need just that they are experienced and they know how to take advantage of any circumstance, and the man behind it is Guardiola the mastermind behind every strategy, and I don't think manchester city will be winning the champions league again next season.

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June 26, 2023, 07:21:02 AM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Ancelotti is still in charge of Real Madrid for next season before resuming work as coach of the Brazil national team, he will try to give his best for Real Madrid in his final season. Last season's failures have opened Florentino Perez's eyes to immediately refresh the Real Madrid squad, Bellingham's arrival can provide Ancelotti with many options in the midfield area. Real Madrid is also hunting for a quality striker in order to improve the quality of his attacks.
Manchester City's success in winning the treble winner has motivated coaches and players to repeat their success next season, Manchester City are the defending champions, of course the team led by Guardiola is the favorite to win the UCL trophy next season.

Wait, so far I only came across some news outlets that said this is still rumors that Ancelotti is going to Brazil to become the national coach. Some officials said that they would like Ancelotti to become the national coach, but nothing has been confirmed yet, has it? I agree that when there is smoke there is also often a fire, but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

National coach of Brazil would be the right job for him. When I first saw those rumors I had the idea that it would work out with him as a successful, experienced and well respected coach and the individual class of the players that he can then bring together. I am looking forward to the rumors becoming serious anytime soon. That would be good news for the sport.

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June 26, 2023, 07:27:53 AM
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It is too early to make sure about Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Because it hasn't been even much time since we entered the summer transfer window. There is a long time period ahead of the teams to make their signings and be prepared for the Champions League journey. Until finding out the final version of their squads it is difficult to be confident about something.
For me Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern munich are the 3 strongest football teams in the world in the last few years and therefore they are always among the top favorites to win the Champions League before the start of the season.
This time though it is not sure yet how strong Real Madrid a d especially Bayern Munich will really be, because both teams still need to make some important transfers in order to strenghthen their sqads. Real has already signed Bellingham while has not made any big transfer yet.

Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.
Manchester City from English Premier League, Real Madrid from La Liga and Bayern Munich from German League are always favorites especially in UEFA Champions League. But last season did not go well for Bayern Munich. They were eliminated from the Champions League in the quarter-finals against Manchester City, and Real Madrid were eliminated from the Champions League in the 202–23 season after losing to Manchester City in the semi-finals. The Manchester City squad remains the same so far but there are some changes at Real Madrid and there could be some changes at Bayern Munich as well. Bayern Munich are likely to let Sadio Mané go. If anything like that happens, Bayern Munich will be a bit behind last season. But I hope that will not be the case with Real Madrid. Because they are able to go far in the Champions League even with the current team.
It's a pity for Man U and Chelsea that you did not mention them, this is for obvious reasons, the two were one of the forces to reckon with in the past when it comes to the Champions League. Besides, the club that pains me for most is Liverpool, it will do well this season in the EPL and other competitions qualified for, but unfortunately, will not be there to display its worth in the UCL.

And as for Man City, they can only adjust this summer, they have a qualified squad already. While Sadio Mane seems to be a done deal now, the guy didn't meet up to expectations, and you know clubs that need viable firepower like Bayern will not hesitate to expel such.

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Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.
In the next season I think Madrid will perform as usual even without Benzema because they already have several new players even though they seem to be a little lacking in their front line and maybe Mbappe is the only player who can replace Benzema at Madrid. because of course he has the skills and abilities needed by Madrid because with Mbappe he can make Madrid better than last season.

Mbappe shouldn't stay at PSG because of course it will be difficult for him to play in the UCL later because PSG always fails in the UCL it's difficult to reach the final, but it will be different if he plays at Madrid there is a chance to win the UCL next season because of course with Mbappe will help Madrid's strength to be better than Manchester City, which is currently the strongest club in the UCL.

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June 26, 2023, 07:56:20 AM
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It is too early to make sure about Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Because it hasn't been even much time since we entered the summer transfer window. There is a long time period ahead of the teams to make their signings and be prepared for the Champions League journey. Until finding out the final version of their squads it is difficult to be confident about something.
For me Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern munich are the 3 strongest football teams in the world in the last few years and therefore they are always among the top favorites to win the Champions League before the start of the season.
This time though it is not sure yet how strong Real Madrid a d especially Bayern Munich will really be, because both teams still need to make some important transfers in order to strenghthen their sqads. Real has already signed Bellingham while has not made any big transfer yet.

Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.

Yes, Manchester City, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich are great teams in the world currently, but league and champions league as for me, despite Madrid did not perform well in the league, they are good in the champions league Madrid has signed new players now Jude Bellingham, Fren Garcia, and Brahim Diaz  And since Benzema left Real Madrid, they have been looking for the best striker to replace him, and I believe mbappe will join them this summer to be a good replacement for Benzema, while Bayern Munich's performance has been very poor since the coach changed, and they need to buy players before the new season begins. Even though Manchester City did not make any new signings, they will do well again next season.

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The Champions League in particular is never a safe bet, but it also makes it the most interesting competition if you ask me. All the little things that decide between success and failure. Some individual toP performances of one player or an unlucky penalty and so many other things. You need strong and consistent performances and you usually won't win it without luck. Depending on how good a team performs, luck is still a contributing factor. And yet I would also say that Manchester City is again the favorite in terms of the odds. It is like if I had to choose a team, I would choose Manchester City.

Considering the most recent result and how strong Manchester City are most people would side with them to win the title 2 times in a row. However it is really risky to bet on them anyway. Because mostly we see different champions in consecutive years. Therefore it is a big risk to bet so much money on Manchester City at a really low odd. But if one is just planning to bet on them just for fun with a small amount then it wouldn't be important if they lose their bet of course.

But to have fun about this I think the best thing to do is to bet on a team with a much higher odd and watch the journey of that team in the Champions League.  Grin

It is that the odds are against you, right. Some will now bring up the example of Real Madrid and how they won it three times in a row, but that's not the new standard now and Real Madrid also had a lot of luck. Just speaking from the perspective of a better: if a bettor bet on Real Madrid against Manchester City in the semi finals when Real Madrid was down two goals until the 90th minute, who is the person to tell me that a bettor would still feel confident in the 90th minute when in order for his bet to win Real Madrid would need to score twice only to make it into overtime? That was so much luck. It is right as you said it, the odds are against someone betting on two consecutive wins of the title.

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June 26, 2023, 08:24:24 AM
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Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.

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