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June 26, 2023, 09:03:40 AM
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Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.

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June 26, 2023, 09:26:33 AM
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There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.

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June 26, 2023, 09:57:45 AM
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There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.
Blaming Tuchel for the failure of Bayern Munich is unfair. He was brought in when the season was already ending and he didn't have enough time to study the team and rearrange them for the needed result. It was really embarrassing to see his team crash out of the Champion league quarter-final after losing to Villarreal. It takes time for a coach to get the loyalty and support of a new set of players. Maybe people are expecting him to replicate his performance in Chelsea when he took over the club mid-season after the sack of Frank Lampard. He is not a magician, so couldn't perform any miracle.

I said it from the unset that the management of Bayern Munich will hold him responsible for the performance of the club next season. They should ensure he gets all the players he needs and those he doesn't want should be offloaded from the team. The sack of Kahn and Salihamidzic  will help him because it will give him freedom and make him take control of the team. He had a bitter and sweet time with Chelsea and it will be nice to see what he can do with a club in his home country, Germany.   

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June 26, 2023, 11:46:14 AM
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I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
Bayern munchen's directors thought that if its club will able to win treble winnners by signed tuchel as a new coach but the fact that if bayern was almost trophyless if it was not lucky enough at the last matchday. Im feeling doubt about bayern's performance next season.
UCL has become the main target but seeing how strong manchester city right now makes me feel doubt if bayern will have chance to take it from manchester city. Even im not sure if real madrid will able to take back UCL trophy next season.
The competition will become even more competitive.

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June 26, 2023, 12:01:54 PM
Last edit: June 26, 2023, 12:16:26 PM by Sakanwa
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Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.
 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.

 Judging from joselu's stats in 2022/23 season for Espanyol he had 16 goals in 34 matches added with 2 assists, well that might be good for a player of his age but not up to standards for a club like Realmadrid, they need a constant goal scorer like halland that would help them challenge for the UEFA championship title again, of which I'll prefer victor oshimen to be in that position, the  Napoli top 9 would perfectly replace Karim with ease because he's younger, a perfect finisher with pace, good scoring mentality and assists  from modric and vini jnr would make it easier for him to attain a better scoring record of the 2022/23 campaign in Napoli having 26 goals in 32 matches with 4 assists, better than that of joselu's.

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June 26, 2023, 12:02:09 PM
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There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.
Yes, it's true that it won't have any effect if Tuchel is sacked. Those who expect Tuchel to be sacked just because he failed to UCL have never thought maturely that to make a great club it takes time to approach players let alone manage new players he meets, it's not entirely TUchel's fault. it's just because the players are less effective so it's wrong to blame the manager just for failing.

Tuchel came at the wrong time for that I think sacking him was a fatal mistake because it's useless if changing managers it will take more time to perfect the desired playing style, moreover everything needs a process because there is no instant process in football that's why if one full season Tuchel was with Munich but it ended badly maybe we can blame that, but Tuchel's arrival has not been a full season so he is not to blame.

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June 26, 2023, 12:27:13 PM
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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Real Madrid will still be led by Ancelotti until next season and this will be the last chance to bring Real Madrid back to win the Champions League title with a much better squad than before. Meanwhile, Manchester City will still be the favorite champions for next season and that is undeniable with the depth of their current squad. But after being left by captain Gundogan who joined Barcelona, now Manchester City must find a new person who is able to lead this team on the field and it is Pep Guardiola's job to give this important task to one of his players. I agree that these two teams will still be strong candidates to win the champions league, but they must not be complacent because there will be several other strong European teams ready to surprise the match later.
maybe in the next season Real Madrid will still be in tight competition with Man City because the two coaches Ancelotti and Guardiola have pocketed their respective weaknesses from the strategy given in the champions league. on the one hand, Man City has already secured several players who will replace Gundogan to improve the team's performance and Real Madrid is also continuing to look for reliable players to be able to beat Man City next season.
I just imagine that if Harry Kane can be bought by Real Madrid and join Los Blancos I think it will not be impossible for Madrid to be able to win back the UCL title from Man City.
These two coaches are indeed very experienced in the champion league competition and it would not be surprising if later the two of them would meet again to bring their team to victory. Both Manchester City and Real Madrid have made improvements to the central side to get a new midfielder to organize attacks. On the other hand, if we talk about Harry Kane, it is too difficult to realize joining Real Madrid and there is no hope for Real Madrid to want to sign him because the transfer fee asked is too high for a 30-year-old striker. It's better for Real Madrid to save their money to prepare so they can get Mbappe, who is still young and much better.

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June 26, 2023, 12:58:16 PM
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I think that these clubs gonna be strong candidate to win UCL next season.

The most favorite club is still manchester city.

These teams will have big chances to go to the quarter final = Madrid, Inter milan, Barcelona, Munchen.

There are also so many strongest clubt but i think that those teams gonna be the most potential team next season. I don't even wanna mention arsenal caused by this club is always having bad result in UCL.

Newcastle is coming as a one of the strongest club in EPL. Im feeling so happy to see eddie howe's squad gonna play in UCL next season.



First UCL qualifying round will be started soon.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0282-1844a0d542df-012d8d001944-1000--first-qualifying-round-draw/

This will be deciding which clubs that will be able to go to the UCL, UEL or conference league.

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Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
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You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.

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June 26, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
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Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
-snip-
You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
Joselu playing with Mbappe in same team is a winning squad for me. I know a player like Mbappe would meet the requirements because Real Madrid is a team that has fast players and they rely on swift counter attack in most games.
I don't know how long Modric has on his contract with Madrid, also considering his age, but am sure a player like him in mid field would be a good link between these two potential strikers.
The only issue would be Mbappe adapting to the team and living conditions of the new place. That's if he ends up joining the team as speculated during the transfers.

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June 26, 2023, 02:38:21 PM
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Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
For the few months Tuchel has been the coach of Bayern munich I wont be too fast to conclude if his performance as the coach was not good enough. I think the time tuchel was appointed as the coach of Bayern Munich, I don't think if any coach would come by that time to get use to the players so fast and  to give the best performance as a coach . Tuchel tried his best to make sure that Bayern Munich didn't lose the championship even if when he was appointed as coach was not the best time to start up the job.

Bayern Munich still needs to give tuchel chance to deliver what he has for the team, i don't have any doubt on Tuchel because he was able to perform very well as coach for Chelsea.  Chelsea won the Champions League under tuchel as coach, this can only be achieved from a coach that knows what he is doing. I strongly believe Tuchel can do a great job for Bayern Munich with all his experience he has, Bayern Munich just need to give him time to see what he can offer for the club.  

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June 26, 2023, 03:27:55 PM
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 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.
Fans like us can only give opinions according to our own views, while the team management and coaches also have their own views in recruiting players into the team. I also don't know what Joselu sees from Real Madrid, while players like Victor Oshimen, Harry Kane or even Kylian Mbappe are very clear that they are all players who have made pretty good achievements in the team they have occupied. So Real Madrid fans can only hope for Joselu to be better than Karim Benzema.
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 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.
Fans like us can only give opinions according to our own views, while the team management and coaches also have their own views in recruiting players into the team. I also don't know what Joselu sees from Real Madrid, while players like Victor Oshimen, Harry Kane or even Kylian Mbappe are very clear that they are all players who have made pretty good achievements in the team they have occupied. So Real Madrid fans can only hope for Joselu to be better than Karim Benzema.

Will Joselu be made permanent by Real Madrid? Because as far as I know Joselu is only a loan player and also, Joselu is old if he becomes a Real Madrid player. Therefore, I am sure that Real Madrid will not sign Joselu because even Real Madrid does not keep or will not sign old players who do not have great achievements and potential. Because yes, Real Madrid only retains old players who really have a big contribution to the team's performance, such as Luka Modric and Toni Kroos, for example, who are still in the Real Madrid squad so far.

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June 26, 2023, 04:35:57 PM
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Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
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You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
Karim Benzema was a very important player for Real Madrid. Karim Benzema was the captain and main striker of Real Madrid. He has performed very well for Real Madrid for as long as he has played for Real Madrid. Karim Benzema has won several titles for Real Madrid including La Liga(3), Copa del Rey(5) and UEFA Champions League titles(5). These titles next to his name for Real Madrid show how effective a player he was for Real Madrid. Age may have forced him to leave Real Madrid. He played at Real Madrid as long as age was not an issue. His achievement may be remembered by Real Madrid.

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June 26, 2023, 04:37:48 PM
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Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
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You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
Joselu cannot be compared to Benzema, the quality of these two players is very much different. Joselu was once thrown out by Real Madrid because he was unable to compete with other players, while Benzema was able to maintain his performance since he was brought in from Lyon, he has also always been the first choice in the striker position. Real Madrid signed Joselu not to replace Benzema, for this reason he was not signed permanently by Real Madrid.

Joselu was only used as a substitute for the main striker, especially since Real Madrid had just lost Hazard, Mariano Diaz and Marco Asensio. Joselu arrival has not satisfied Real Madrid with his new signing, Perez still wants a world-class striker in the summer transfer market.
Mbappe was Perez main target to strengthen Madrid attack area, Perez also included another name as his target if he failed to bring in Mbappe, Harry Kane and Osimhen attracted Perez interest, who wanted Real Madrid to win La Liga and UCL again.

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June 26, 2023, 04:57:47 PM
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Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improve the quad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
I am beginning to believe that Bayern is becoming Chelsea in terms of decision-making. The way and manner Niggelsman was dismissed is a yardstick that can best measure Tuchel'a probability of staying in Bayern. He did excellently in Chelsea but may leave if he doesn't do the same at Bayern Munich. There are no two ways about it. For now, I think what the club desires is the result. lt.Naggelsmaan wasn't bad, Tuchel himself is a coach with a lot of Tactics. But at this moment, I think that was just his gloomy days which I believe will go away by next season. Tuchel needs more time

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June 26, 2023, 05:05:46 PM
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Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.

looking at the current squad of real madrid, we can easily conclude that it is not a squad that can be considered a strong candidate to win the champions league, in my opinion real madrid has not invested much money in the attack, for some reason they seem being very confident of rodrigo and vinicius, so with benzema leaving they focus only on getting a player to replace benzema, they don't look at players who can also replace vinicius and rodrigo, so it's something very strange, since real madrid stayed stuck in this thought that they have not been able to sign very famous players

maybe it's due to the disappointment they had in the last 3 seasons when they signed certain players (I won't mention their names) for a very high price but those players didn't play anything, they just made losses. but one thing is certain: real madrid next season will not be a strong candidate as it has been the case in recent times, even for real madrid to win la liga will be a very difficult task next season. we will see in the friendly matches that will take place next month how they will do, this will give us an idea of what we can expect from real madrid

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June 26, 2023, 05:25:02 PM
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For the few months Tuchel has been the coach of Bayern munich I wont be too fast to conclude if his performance as the coach was not good enough. I think the time tuchel was appointed as the coach of Bayern Munich, I don't think if any coach would come by that time to get use to the players so fast and  to give the best performance as a coach . Tuchel tried his best to make sure that Bayern Munich didn't lose the championship even if when he was appointed as coach was not the best time to start up the job.

Bayern Munich still needs to give tuchel chance to deliver what he has for the team, i don't have any doubt on Tuchel because he was able to perform very well as coach for Chelsea.  Chelsea won the Champions League under tuchel as coach, this can only be achieved from a coach that knows what he is doing. I strongly believe Tuchel can do a great job for Bayern Munich with all his experience he has, Bayern Munich just need to give him time to see what he can offer for the club.  
I think it will take about 10 or 15 games to judge him on the new season. I know he already had a few games there but he inherited someone else's team, which means that he was having trouble. This means that with the new transfers and the camp, there is a good chance that we could end up with a good amount of return that will end up with a trouble.

I am not saying that this should be a big deal, all I am saying is that we could end up with a situation where I think it is going to be a great deal of work in the end, and we shouldn't be really worried about it neither. I know people are dealing with all kinds of trouble when they are starting anew, so this summer should help him a lot and they may do a lot better and maybe win the whole thing.

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June 26, 2023, 05:53:28 PM
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 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.
Fans like us can only give opinions according to our own views, while the team management and coaches also have their own views in recruiting players into the team. I also don't know what Joselu sees from Real Madrid, while players like Victor Oshimen, Harry Kane or even Kylian Mbappe are very clear that they are all players who have made pretty good achievements in the team they have occupied. So Real Madrid fans can only hope for Joselu to be better than Karim Benzema.

Will Joselu be made permanent by Real Madrid? Because as far as I know Joselu is only a loan player and also, Joselu is old if he becomes a Real Madrid player. Therefore, I am sure that Real Madrid will not sign Joselu because even Real Madrid does not keep or will not sign old players who do not have great achievements and potential. Because yes, Real Madrid only retains old players who really have a big contribution to the team's performance, such as Luka Modric and Toni Kroos, for example, who are still in the Real Madrid squad so far.
Does not seem.
Because what I know is that Real Madrid will only retain young players who have a better performance.
I'm not saying Joselu isn't very good but because of his old age it will definitely have a big impact on his performance in matches.
But if Joselu has a good contribution at Real Madrid I think Real Madrid's management will consider signing Joselu.

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June 26, 2023, 06:00:24 PM
 #460

 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.
Fans like us can only give opinions according to our own views, while the team management and coaches also have their own views in recruiting players into the team. I also don't know what Joselu sees from Real Madrid, while players like Victor Oshimen, Harry Kane or even Kylian Mbappe are very clear that they are all players who have made pretty good achievements in the team they have occupied. So Real Madrid fans can only hope for Joselu to be better than Karim Benzema.

Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

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