UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[ILuckyGuyI]

You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.

I agree about that. Joselu can only be a substitute player at Real Madrid in big tournaments. I respect his performance at Espanyol last season as it was impressive scoring effort. But we are talking about Real Madrid and the Real Madrid we know wouldn't make do with a striker like Joselu after parting ways with an amazing centre-forward like Benzema.

Real Madrid would make use of a striker who has similar characteristics to Benzema now. It started to seem like Real Madrid have revived their interested in Harry Kane lately. At least Transfermarkt website says that as there is such rumour recorded yesterday. Let's see whether Real Madrid can convince stubborn Tottenham chairman Levy for a reasonable transfer fee. 

I can't imagine how strong Real Madrid would be in the future while they have Kane and Mbappe at the same time.

[savetheFORUM]

There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.

Now here things are going completely unfair about Thomas Tuchel because first his entry was completely wrong with timing was also not suitable but still Bayern Munich management done and now blaming him for the failure is not fair as well Julian Nagelsmann just 35 years old was doing decent job but still they sacked him, and then we have Thomas Tuchel for the last few rounds which helps them for winning title, but sadly they fail to have any positive result in Champions League which needs time and better strategy but for the time being they have no time, but now they can do much better in next season and surely things could be on positive way but if they will sack again him on wrong time then surely they can face consequences if we have in Chelsea now it's time for them to wait and give him time for the better result.

[shogun47]

Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improve the quad or not.

That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.

I am beginning to believe that Bayern is becoming Chelsea in terms of decision-making. The way and manner Niggelsman was dismissed is a yardstick that can best measure Tuchel'a probability of staying in Bayern. He did excellently in Chelsea but may leave if he doesn't do the same at Bayern Munich. There are no two ways about it. For now, I think what the club desires is the result. lt.Naggelsmaan wasn't bad, Tuchel himself is a coach with a lot of Tactics. But at this moment, I think that was just his gloomy days which I believe will go away by next season. Tuchel needs more time

I would agree in so far as sacking Nagelsmann was an ill-considered move, but at least they got Tuchel instead and not some no name coach who has never been heard of before. But even when it comes to transfers Bayern didn't have a lucky hand although they signed big names like de Ligt and Mane, but that doesn't mean it will work out. They haven't paid enough attention to the system they are playing and instead only focused on the names. The lack of a striker was so obvious and bad that even those who have no idea about the sport could see it.

[Emitdama]

Joselu cannot be compared to Benzema, the quality of these two players is very much different. Joselu was once thrown out by Real Madrid because he was unable to compete with other players, while Benzema was able to maintain his performance since he was brought in from Lyon, he has also always been the first choice in the striker position. Real Madrid signed Joselu not to replace Benzema, for this reason he was not signed permanently by Real Madrid.

Joselu was only used as a substitute for the main striker, especially since Real Madrid had just lost Hazard, Mariano Diaz and Marco Asensio. Joselu arrival has not satisfied Real Madrid with his new signing, Perez still wants a world-class striker in the summer transfer market.
Mbappe was Perez main target to strengthen Madrid attack area, Perez also included another name as his target if he failed to bring in Mbappe, Harry Kane and Osimhen attracted Perez interest, who wanted Real Madrid to win La Liga and UCL again.

We can't compare these players because every one is having his negative and positive as well right now Real Madrid is looking for the solid striker which is under their target, but things are not going well just because of this they signed Joselu as he will surely be going to play as backup of their main striker with Joselu is now 33 years old which mean he can't be first choice even in last season his performance was at his best in La Liga.

For the main striker they are targeting few players and most chances in coming weeks we will have all details about this as well because in first phase they already fail to bring Harry Kane as Tottenham is not going to cut in their demand for their player and Real Madrid is not going to play amount like this with now we have few other players as well which can do better like Mbappé and Vlahović these are also under radar, and hopefully we will have better news in coming days as well.

[perfect999]

I think that these clubs gonna be strong candidate to win UCL next season.

The most favorite club is still manchester city.

These teams will have big chances to go to the quarter final = Madrid, Inter milan, Barcelona, Munchen.

There are also so many strongest clubt but i think that those teams gonna be the most potential team next season. I don't even wanna mention arsenal caused by this club is always having bad result in UCL.

Newcastle is coming as a one of the strongest club in EPL. Im feeling so happy to see eddie howe's squad gonna play in UCL next season.

I agreed about Manchester City as they are still one of the best in world and have ability to go through again in next season even we all know Champions League is event of surprises and shocking results, but they can do perform as they have already done in last season with for the other teams it's never been easy to predict because we can't have any solid reason for backing them specially Real Madrid, Inter Milan and Bayern Munich are facing issues which needs to fix before start of the event.

Newcastle is now back in Champions League which is amazing because after many years we have them here, and now they are also one of the best team in Premier League which can perform good even Howe Eddie is not well experienced in this event, but we can expect good performance from them.

[un_rank]

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.

The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not to blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

- Jay -

[puloweh555]

Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Maybe the option in place for Real Madrid is the right one to fill the void for Real Madrid's strikers considering that Benzema and Mariano have left. I think Real Madrid brought in Joselu for a reason, especially since some say Real Madrid panicked about buying players, but they saw Joselu as the top scorer in the league number three last season under Lewa and Benzema. Real madrid chose the realistic. Tottenham sold Kane at an expensive price, the price was unreasonable, while Mbappe and PSG were complicated. There were no attackers at all, so they brought in Joselu.

Besides, Kane, who is 30 years old, is still very expensive and the mbappe project is about to start next year. Instead of buying, it's better to borrow what is there first. Perez also said to buy an attacker to look at the pre-season first. Maybe Perez is very careful about buying expensive players because they don't want the same thing to happen again, like when they bought expensive Hazard but couldn't contribute to Real Madrid.

[rahmad2nd]

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That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.

Actually the system that Tuchel implemented when training Bayern, was quite effective. Unfortunately, they don't have enough finishing players that the team can rely on. that's why, Tuchel experienced complications so he had to try to tweak the strategy and rotate some of his players. plus trying to change the system that Nageslann has previously applied to Bayern players, a job that is quite complicated and also not as simple as we think.

Well, the new season is the real test. he can bring in newcomers as he wants to strengthen his depth. plus, Munich is well aware that they need a striker who can be relied on to become a center forward. that's why several names have been linked with Bayern. however, so far there is no certainty about which players they will bring to the Allianz Arena. at least, Tuchel or how to deepen his squad. plus, he needs a pure striker. if they do, I'm pretty sure Bayern will be one of the teams to reckon with in this competition. after all, the summer transfer window still has a lag, there is a lot of other work for Tuchel to do.
For now, we can only watch and only observe. after all competitions are reactivated, we can only assess Tuchel's performance with Bayern.

[skarais]

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The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not too blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

- Jay -

Bayern Munich are still the favorites in the Bundesliga but it is quite possible that some internal problems have been bothering them. I believe Bayern Munich are still going strong regardless of how they ended last season, but of course improvement is always expected because a team's performances are never the same from season to season.

Bayern Munich are a strong team in the Champions League, but they are not the only ones. Barcelona, ​​​Real Madrid, Manchester City, Arsenal, Napoli, Inter, PSG and several other excellent teams are good teams. So there is no reason for Bayern Munich to be satisfied with what they have now, so they have to move on.

[Ayers]

There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.

Now here things are going completely unfair about Thomas Tuchel because first his entry was completely wrong with timing was also not suitable but still Bayern Munich management done and now blaming him for the failure is not fair as well Julian Nagelsmann just 35 years old was doing decent job but still they sacked him, and then we have Thomas Tuchel for the last few rounds which helps them for winning title, but sadly they fail to have any positive result in Champions League which needs time and better strategy but for the time being they have no time, but now they can do much better in next season and surely things could be on positive way but if they will sack again him on wrong time then surely they can face consequences if we have in Chelsea now it's time for them to wait and give him time for the better result.

I think blaming him or even thinking about taking his management away from him is absolutely ridiculous. He was put in a situation where there was every chance for him to actually do a lot worse. Expectations were high. And it is understandable that a new coach is not going to deliver the results as soon as he comes. A coach is always going to need some time with the team. That time was not given to him properly.

I think that the result which he brought with the team was obviously underwhelming. But at a very small timeframe, I don’t think we should expect too much from him. Let’s just see how he performs with the team in the next season and then take the decision of keeping him or not.

[slapper]

Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.

I'm also pessimistic about Real Madrid next season, but that won't be an exaggeration. I can still hope they do well next season even if we lose Benzema, but I don't know if we will really suffer after losing him.
The fact is, Benzema is a striker that Real Madrid have relied on for many seasons. The reliance on good performances has led us to win some great titles, but of course the impact of his departure is likely to be unavoidable as long as Real Madrid do not find a suitable replacement. I know some people disagree with my assumptions, but I have what I have to say about the possibility. So when Real Madrid comes to the Champions League next season, then I know we are not a team that is more favored than other teams.

Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Yes, they're a seasoned squad, and Benzema's absence, a linchpin, could pose a hurdle to their championship aspirations. Yet, Joselu, recently on loan from Espanyol, is pegged to step into Benzema's cleats. Despite Joselu's impressive 16-goal record at Espanyol, it's fair to question his ability to mirror that success at RM. Only the future will reveal if he can level up and match Benzema's high bar.

[fuguebtc]

Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Maybe the option in place for Real Madrid is the right one to fill the void for Real Madrid's strikers considering that Benzema and Mariano have left. I think Real Madrid brought in Joselu for a reason, especially since some say Real Madrid panicked about buying players, but they saw Joselu as the top scorer in the league number three last season under Lewa and Benzema. Real madrid chose the realistic. Tottenham sold Kane at an expensive price, the price was unreasonable, while Mbappe and PSG were complicated. There were no attackers at all, so they brought in Joselu.

Besides, Kane, who is 30 years old, is still very expensive and the mbappe project is about to start next year. Instead of buying, it's better to borrow what is there first. Perez also said to buy an attacker to look at the pre-season first. Maybe Perez is very careful about buying expensive players because they don't want the same thing to happen again, like when they bought expensive Hazard but couldn't contribute to Real Madrid.

Joselu has been showing decent performance. Let’s see if he will be able to actually perform well for Real Madrid or not. It seems to me that Real Madrid have done a good job by waiting. As I see things, next season it is going to be interesting to see whom they will bring in. I also think that if Real Madrid cannot perform well with the squad that they have right now they will bring in new players quickly. Honestly, I think that Real Madrid is going to go for Mbappé in the next season. That’s why they are waiting right now.

Just imagine getting a player who they had agreed to pay 200 million for, getting for free.

[indah rezqi]

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Now here things are going completely unfair about Thomas Tuchel because first his entry was completely wrong with timing was also not suitable but still Bayern Munich management done and now blaming him for the failure is not fair as well Julian Nagelsmann just 35 years old was doing decent job but still they sacked him, and then we have Thomas Tuchel for the last few rounds which helps them for winning title, but sadly they fail to have any positive result in Champions League which needs time and better strategy but for the time being they have no time, but now they can do much better in next season and surely things could be on positive way but if they will sack again him on wrong time then surely they can face consequences if we have in Chelsea now it's time for them to wait and give him time for the better result.

Tuchel's failure in the Champions League with Bayern Munich is very natural for me. Manchester City have been hard to stop this season and they have proven that by winning their first title against Inter in the final. Not only Bayern Munich, Manchester City also managed to embarrass Real Madrid, who incidentally is the king in the Champions League. So Bayern Munich's failure in the Champions League is not a sign that there are other teams better than them who have managed to win the title.

Tuchel is not entirely at fault in this regard, but he may not have enough time to prepare everything when he has important games in the remainder of last season. Next season may be different, but I'm also not sure Bayern Munich can win the Champions League title.

[AakZaki]

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.

If their transfer only ends here, I don't feel sure they are capable of playing well in the UCL even in La Liga. They haven't changed much, the big hopes are on Jude Bellingham. But he seems to be too young for this. It looks like Anceloti wants to keep playing Kroos and Modric behind Bellingham. Of course I hope there will still be other transfers. Still doubling Kross and Modric to play in such a busy schedule is risky.

[harapan]

Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Juselu is not as bad as people make him t seem. He is not world class but he is certainly not a bad player. He is a perfect fit for a short term replacement for Benzema.
Madrid do not know if they would sign Mbappe this season and Kane even looks more difficult, because in the case of Mbappe, he actually wants to join Real Madrid, he doesn't need much convincing.
Its just a matter of time before Mbappe becomes a Madrid player. It might happen this summer too because Madrid are very optimistic about the deal.

[Docnaster]

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.

If their transfer only ends here, I don't feel sure they are capable of playing well in the UCL even in La Liga. They haven't changed much, the big hopes are on Jude Bellingham. But he seems to be too young for this. It looks like Anceloti wants to keep playing Kroos and Modric behind Bellingham. Of course I hope there will still be other transfers. Still doubling Kross and Modric to play in such a busy schedule is risky.

Joselu is understandably a great striker that is capable enough to whitewash any team on his day. He's proven himself over the years as a striker who can play for any top team in the world
However, I do not think he can be a great replacement for a player that was very decisive for Real Madrid like Karim Benzema. Joselu is good and  can be the second choice striker for Real Madrid but he shouldn't be laden with pressure to be as clinical as Benzema

[ShowOff]

If their transfer only ends here, I don't feel sure they are capable of playing well in the UCL even in La Liga. They haven't changed much, the big hopes are on Jude Bellingham. But he seems to be too young for this. It looks like Anceloti wants to keep playing Kroos and Modric behind Bellingham. Of course I hope there will still be other transfers. Still doubling Kross and Modric to play in such a busy schedule is risky.

Jude Bellingham isn't a striker, so I don't think his impact on the team is as big as a striker's. Even though Real Madrid hope Jude Bellingham can help next season, they still have to be realistic enough about the other needs of their players. Real Madrid needs a reliable striker who can replace Benzema's position, but if Ancelotti can devise a scheme without a striker or false nine, of course it will be different.

Real Madrid won't be as successful as they were a few seasons ago in the Champions League after Benzema's departure, but they are still the best team ever. Real Madrid can be a threat to any team but if they don't have an impactful striker then it's clear they won't win anything.

[Leviathan.007]

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The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not too blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

- Jay -

Bayern Munich are still the favorites in the Bundesliga but it is quite possible that some internal problems have been bothering them. I believe Bayern Munich are still going strong regardless of how they ended last season, but of course improvement is always expected because a team's performances are never the same from season to season.

Bayern Munich are a strong team in the Champions League, but they are not the only ones. Barcelona, ​​​Real Madrid, Manchester City, Arsenal, Napoli, Inter, PSG and several other excellent teams are good teams. So there is no reason for Bayern Munich to be satisfied with what they have now, so they have to move on.

The performance of Bayern Munich is completely unknown for the next season because we can't be sure how Tuchel is going to perform in the next season and what's saw from this coach was just a few games we saw in this season while he never had enough chance.
Bayern Munich had also an unstable performance and they were about to even lose the title to Dortmund in the league.
That's why we can't say if they are still the favorites in the champions league or not.

[Ndabagi01]

That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

If the team's leadership can make such a fast decision in the future months, it indicates that they are not prepared to see a positive development for the club. A manager is not fired after a few months after being hired because he has failed to achieve the team's expectations. Things like these take time, and the entire team must be patient in order to see the team's transitional progress. I believe in Tuchel and am optimistic that he will improve Bayern's performance, particularly in the Champions League.

Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Joselu is a very talented player, as seen by his previous football experience with Espanyol. Even on that premise, we cannot deny that Joselu cannot be a perfect replacement for Benzema; he can only be a more suitable option to the main player to fit that position more.  Real Madrid may have little choice to rely on him now, but it should be noted that he is likely to underperform in comparison to what Benzema was capable of doing for the squad at the time he was in the team.

[KTChampions]

The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not to blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

- Jay -

On the other hand, Dortmund lost Bellingham and, like other clubs, cannot oppose anything even to the problematic Bayern. The real pressure on Tuchel will start at the Champions League stage - any failure will be taken very painfully. Well, if he gets into any difficulties up to this point, then it will be entirely his fault - Bayern dominates the Bundesliga and this is the minimum that is expected from any coach.