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April 05, 2024, 10:15:47 PM
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Talking about strength and form both Real Madrid a d Manchester city are both of almost equal levels and they are both very experienced in the champions league only that they have not been able to keep equal records as Real
The bookies are currently in agreement with that statement with the odds @2.70 for Madrid and @2.40 for City. I was expecting the gap to be wider and that Madrid is going to be the favorite for the first leg since the game will be played at Santiago Bernabéu. Not that it really matters since odds above @2 for either team is good.

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April 05, 2024, 11:30:02 PM
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There is only one thing that upsets me about the confrontation between Real and City, and that is that they met at an early stage. I think it would have been more logical if they had met in the semi-finals or even in the final.
I agree that if these clubs meet each other in either semi final or final match, it looks better but if all things are as arrangement, football will not have its natural beauty.

But on the other hand, this gives other teams a chance to extend their participation in the Champions League playoffs, because if Real and City had other opponents, then they would have minimal chances against such teams, because you said correctly, they are favorites. I have no idea who can win, it’s too difficult to predict.
To win Champions League, a club must beat other clubs that are either champions from other leagues or best clubs from other leagues. So they must beat all strong clubs along their way to a final match and beat an opponent in the final match to take the crown. I don't see if Real Madrid won't meet Manchester City but meet another club like Bayern Munich or Barcelona, will we again say they meet each other too early.

This season seems to be better for Real Madrid than for Manchester City and they will try to use it to beat Manchester City in quarter finals.

Barcelona had a better performance than we could even expect to see from this team because they won the game against Napoli while Barcelona was not in the good form and they were even about to lose their coach Xavi before the end of this season because of him not having a good performance during this season. But Barcelona changed a lot and they improved the team to have better performance and that's why they could beat Napoli.
Now Barcelona have bigger dreams. It seems they are even thinking about the final match of the Champions League even with the bad financial situation they have. Yamal the player of Barcelona also said he has the dream of playing in the final match for Barcelona.


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April 05, 2024, 11:46:58 PM
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Although Real Madrid are safely at the top of the La Liga table but still, Real Madrid do not have really impressive results in the Champions League matches this season. Moreover, Real Madrid will have to face Manchester City although indeed, Manchester City also sometimes fails to get a win in big matches as happened lately also in the Premier League against Arsenal which ended in a goalless draw. Therefore, any result is still very likely to happen in the match between Real Madrid v Manchester City in the quarter-finals this time but even so, I think Manchester City still has a slightly higher chance than Real Madrid at this moment.

Manchester City and Real Madrid’s performance this season have made it very hard for me to predict who will be the possible winner of this champions league quarterfinal match. They are both playing great  football and it hasn’t warrant any of the team to lose form since beginning of the season. The two of them have potential for their league titles and also have potential to win in all competitions they are currently participating in. It is better I don’t chose one team ahead of the other, let the match decide who the winner will be. Let their performance that day in that match determine who will win the match.

Let's not forget that Manchester City is the champions last season and they played against Real Madrid which is one of the best teams to have won the Champions more than any other team it's very bad not to see th as the favorite of the competition even though one of them will only qualify to the semi finals but it's possible to see the winning team between this two teams. In the league Both  Manchester City and Real Madrid are doing very well but I think they will focus more on the champions league if they are sure dong your that they have secured their different league trophies.

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April 06, 2024, 05:16:19 AM
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Let's not forget that Manchester City is the champions last season and they played against Real Madrid which is one of the best teams to have won the Champions more than any other team it's very bad not to see th as the favorite of the competition even though one of them will only qualify to the semi finals but it's possible to see the winning team between this two teams. In the league Both  Manchester City and Real Madrid are doing very well but I think they will focus more on the champions league if they are sure dong your that they have secured their different league trophies.
But it was Manchester City's first trophy in the Champions League and it is not a guarantee that he will repeat the Champions League trophy again this season because Real Madrid have corrected their mistakes last season and will try as hard as possible to beat Manchester City in the quarter-finals this time because Real Madrid doesn't want to repeat the same mistakes that caused them to be eliminated from the Champions League. I believe Real Madrid will win their 15th Champions League title again.

Manchester City is focused on 3 competitions this season because they want to get the treble winner again, so their focus will be divided not only on the Champions League because in the Premier League itself, Manchester City's position is not completely comfortable because Liverpool and Arsenal are still in the hunt for the title as well as Manchester City who don't want to lose his dominance in the last few seasons.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid can focus more on the Champions League because its position at the top of the La Liga standings is quite safe because it has widened the gap with the clubs below it, so Real Madrid is not worried and Carlo Ancelotti will prepare a good strategy in this crucial match. I am very confident that Real Madrid will avenge their defeat last season.

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Let's not forget that Manchester City is the champions last season and they played against Real Madrid which is one of the best teams to have won the Champions more than any other team it's very bad not to see th as the favorite of the competition even though one of them will only qualify to the semi finals but it's possible to see the winning team between this two teams. In the league Both  Manchester City and Real Madrid are doing very well but I think they will focus more on the champions league if they are sure dong your that they have secured their different league trophies.
But it was Manchester City's first trophy in the Champions League and it is not a guarantee that he will repeat the Champions League trophy again this season because Real Madrid have corrected their mistakes last season and will try as hard as possible to beat Manchester City in the quarter-finals this time because Real Madrid doesn't want to repeat the same mistakes that caused them to be eliminated from the Champions League. I believe Real Madrid will win their 15th Champions League title again.

Manchester City is focused on 3 competitions this season because they want to get the treble winner again, so their focus will be divided not only on the Champions League because in the Premier League itself, Manchester City's position is not completely comfortable because Liverpool and Arsenal are still in the hunt for the title as well as Manchester City who don't want to lose his dominance in the last few seasons.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid can focus more on the Champions League because its position at the top of the La Liga standings is quite safe because it has widened the gap with the clubs below it, so Real Madrid is not worried and Carlo Ancelotti will prepare a good strategy in this crucial match. I am very confident that Real Madrid will avenge their defeat last season.

Bro, I understand what you are trying to say, that real madrid have improved this season compared to last season, but their is no guarantee that they have made any corrections because they haven't played each other yet, so in that case, you wouldn't know what tactical correction that has been made in the team.

And as for having different focus, I don't think it's necessary because that is what bigger teams are used too, they just take it as it comes, though I won't deny the fact that Manchester city hasn't been their best form this season, but I really don't think, they are going to be an easy fixtures against real madrid, because this is the champions league, it's a competition for men, and Manchester city have all at their disposal, so you don't just rule them out like that.

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Talking about strength and form both Real Madrid a d Manchester city are both of almost equal levels and they are both very experienced in the champions league only that they have not been able to keep equal records as Real
The bookies are currently in agreement with that statement with the odds @2.70 for Madrid and @2.40 for City. I was expecting the gap to be wider and that Madrid is going to be the favorite for the first leg since the game will be played at Santiago Bernabéu. Not that it really matters since odds above @2 for either team is good.
Even in an away game, Manchester City is still favored by bookies instead of Real Madrid. The lower odds mean a lot for the city. It's possible for the city to beat Real Madrid at an away game, too. Guardola needs to put draw as a minimum result that must be achieved against real madrid.
It will open the way for Manchester City to perform better in the second leg, which will happen away from Real Madrid. The golden momentum for City to destroy the mentality of real Madrid's players by beating all of them with good scores at Santiago bernabeu.
The history said that if madrid was king of comeback but it's rarely happening against a team in the same like madrid.

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April 06, 2024, 06:12:06 AM
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Even in an away game, Manchester City is still favored by bookies instead of Real Madrid. The lower odds mean a lot for the city. It's possible for the city to beat Real Madrid at an away game, too. Guardola needs to put draw as a minimum result that must be achieved against real madrid.
It will open the way for Manchester City to perform better in the second leg, which will happen away from Real Madrid. The golden momentum for City to destroy the mentality of real Madrid's players by beating all of them with good scores at Santiago bernabeu.
The history said that if madrid was king of comeback but it's rarely happening against a team in the same like madrid.
One thing we should know about the Santiago Bernabéu stadium, it's a solid ground for massive winnings for Real Madrid. We have historical meetings for these teams and they're not always doing what we think will happen, instead these teams will become very competitive and ready to take up the tough race, they're willingly to ensure they're having smooth race. Manchester City are English side and we all know what that exactly means for them to feature in the UEFA Champions League. Pep Guardiola will not let his guards down and will always be there to make everything run smoothly for them.

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Talking about strength and form both Real Madrid a d Manchester city are both of almost equal levels and they are both very experienced in the champions league only that they have not been able to keep equal records as Real
The bookies are currently in agreement with that statement with the odds @2.70 for Madrid and @2.40 for City. I was expecting the gap to be wider and that Madrid is going to be the favorite for the first leg since the game will be played at Santiago Bernabéu. Not that it really matters since odds above @2 for either team is good.
If only based on the odd given by the dealer or the house then it is clear that both have almost the same odd and more than @2 is decent amount to bet on but this is bet that is difficult to really predict correctly.
Whatever the result, no one can really know, the only thing is that the gambler relies on his confidence in the team he likes, for example, I prefer Manchester City, so even in the away match, it is still Manchester City that I choose.
It difficult if we find match like this and of course the chances of both are almost equal, I sure there will be many gamblers who will be fooled and that could be the start of failure, draw for the first leg could happen.
Best option is to choose double chance like I chose Manchester City to win or draw, this can minimize failure.

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Barcelona had a better performance than we could even expect to see from this team because they won the game against Napoli while Barcelona was not in the good form and they were even about to lose their coach Xavi before the end of this season because of him not having a good performance during this season. But Barcelona changed a lot and they improved the team to have better performance and that's why they could beat Napoli.
Now Barcelona have bigger dreams. It seems they are even thinking about the final match of the Champions League even with the bad financial situation they have. Yamal the player of Barcelona also said he has the dream of playing in the final match for Barcelona.


What we have to realize here is that no matter how bad Barcelona is, as long as it has the right coach and can manage Barca's existing players well, then the club will definitely still achieve very good results, not even just beating Napoli, even if only with existing players.
In my opinion, it is too early for Barca to hope for Lamine Yamal who is still too young without any experience and still has a long way to go as long as he has good talent and doesn't become like Ansu Fati.

Lamine Yamal does seem to have good talent if he hones his skills continuously one day he can become a star player and can be relied on by Barcelona, but if Barcelona hasn't sold him to another club because according to rumors I and Lamine Yamal want to be sold by Barcelona in At the end of the season, I don't know whether the rumors are true or not, but I think it might happen because Barcelona really needs income.

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April 06, 2024, 07:06:11 AM
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I am a Real Madrid fan. But I am very worried about the result of the match. The first relidrid rate is expected to improve their performance and not in that direction or the other will be the same.
Everyone can like any team in the Champions League this season, but for Real Madrid everyone also knows that the performance of their players must be able to improve because in this round Real Madrid will face a strong team from England. So it will be quite a difficult match for both of them if they can both improve their squad's performance and apart from that, there will also be a lot of spectators for this match because considering the competitive tension is tougher for each of them.

You're right that both teams need to play better. A lot of people believe that Manchester City will win the match because their team is stronger, but we also need to remember that Real Madrid's team is particularly strong this season. If Real Madrid wins, it shouldn't come as a surprise because we already know that their squad is very strong. Because of their excessive hype, Manchester City is being overhyped, which is why when they lose, people are taken aback and point the finger at the coach. However, if we look at Manchester City's performance, occasionally the players become weary when facing a formidable opponent.

We all know that Real Madrid has the spirit of the champions league, so it doesn't matter if they play a big team or not, they can defeat any team. For this reason, I think Real Madrid will perform better than Manchester City in the match. Since Real Madrid played in the Liga last weekend, they haven't played in any other matches. Instead, they are preparing for the Champions League to face Manchester City, and Manchester won't have enough time to train, they will play two games before Real Madrid and then have no rest.

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April 06, 2024, 07:26:58 AM
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Everyone can like any team in the Champions League this season, but for Real Madrid everyone also knows that the performance of their players must be able to improve because in this round Real Madrid will face a strong team from England. So it will be quite a difficult match for both of them if they can both improve their squad's performance and apart from that, there will also be a lot of spectators for this match because considering the competitive tension is tougher for each of them.

Real Madrid don't have good memories against Manchester City from the time they last met up.  Sad  At Etihad they got a really huge defeat like 4-0. Considering the way Real Madrid have been playing in the Champions League recently I can't be very positive about them. The performance against Leipzig was just horrible. If Leipzig were a more capable team they would be the side to advance.

Ancelotti should prepare his players strongly for this round. I don't think they would lose home in the first leg but the second leg will be way tougher.

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It doesn't look like last weekend's league results had any impact on the odds of an outright UCL winner. Odds for Man City dropped slightly from x2.80 to 2.85 after 0-0 draw against Arsenal at home.
Odds for Bayern and Dortmund remain unchanged despite Borussia surprisingly beating Bayern 0-2 in an away game and are x8.0 and x26.0 respectively. I guess bookies either don't put too much weight on the direct league games between teams still participating in the UCL, or maybe they consider Borussia's win as pure luck.
Odds for Borussia winning the next game in Madrid against Atletico are x4.70 which is starting to look like a potentially good bet.

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April 06, 2024, 08:54:46 AM
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It doesn't look like last weekend's league results had any impact on the odds of an outright UCL winner. Odds for Man City dropped slightly from x2.80 to 2.85 after 0-0 draw against Arsenal at home.
Odds for Bayern and Dortmund remain unchanged despite Borussia surprisingly beating Bayern 0-2 in an away game and are x8.0 and x26.0 respectively. I guess bookies either don't put too much weight on the direct league games between teams still participating in the UCL, or maybe they consider Borussia's win as pure luck.
Odds for Borussia winning the next game in Madrid against Atletico are x4.70 which is starting to look like a potentially good bet.

I think before the first matches of the teams in the Champions League, little will change in terms of odds, a team can play excellently in its championship, but the Champions League is a different kind of tournament, especially now every match can be the last, here in addition to the form of the team, psychology and experience will also decide a lot and team preparation. I assume that teams like Bayern or Atletico have more chances only due to their experience.

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Everyone can like any team in the Champions League this season, but for Real Madrid everyone also knows that the performance of their players must be able to improve because in this round Real Madrid will face a strong team from England. So it will be quite a difficult match for both of them if they can both improve their squad's performance and apart from that, there will also be a lot of spectators for this match because considering the competitive tension is tougher for each of them.
Real Madrid don't have good memories against Manchester City from the time they last met up.  Sad  At Etihad they got a really huge defeat like 4-0. Considering the way Real Madrid have been playing in the Champions League recently I can't be very positive about them. The performance against Leipzig was just horrible. If Leipzig were a more capable team they would be the side to advance.
You cannot just use past record to completely judge the future and this is football where things changes so fast. That Manchester City won them 4:0 the last time they met is not a guarantee that they will win them this season. A lot has changed especially with Real Madrid, they now have a youthful and energetic team that have the skill and experience to

Ancelotti should prepare his players strongly for this round. I don't think they would lose home in the first leg but the second leg will be way tougher.
Ancelotti has done what needed to be done from the management angle, the rest is left for football to take its course. Without doubts, it will be a very strong and entertaining match full of surprises. If you think it through, both teams have similar pattern of play and scores goal easily and even with styles. I think the whole world is looking forward to that encounter.

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April 06, 2024, 09:19:59 AM
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It doesn't look like last weekend's league results had any impact on the odds of an outright UCL winner. Odds for Man City dropped slightly from x2.80 to 2.85 after 0-0 draw against Arsenal at home.
Odds for Bayern and Dortmund remain unchanged despite Borussia surprisingly beating Bayern 0-2 in an away game and are x8.0 and x26.0 respectively. I guess bookies either don't put too much weight on the direct league games between teams still participating in the UCL, or maybe they consider Borussia's win as pure luck.
Odds for Borussia winning the next game in Madrid against Atletico are x4.70 which is starting to look like a potentially good bet.
I think before the first matches of the teams in the Champions League, little will change in terms of odds, a team can play excellently in its championship, but the Champions League is a different kind of tournament, especially now every match can be the last, here in addition to the form of the team, psychology and experience will also decide a lot and team preparation. I assume that teams like Bayern or Atletico have more chances only due to their experience.

Experience is very important on the Champions League platform. It is very difficult to perform well in the knockout rounds of the Champions League if the squad is not experienced enough. It is not possible to do well in the Champions League only by having a strong squad. Definitely need experienced coaches and players.

However, it is very difficult to predict which four teams will qualify for the semi-finals this season. The teams are almost equally strong in every match. PSG and Barcelona are in a similar situation. It is very difficult to predict which team is the favorite in Dortmund vs Atletico match. Also in Bayern Munich vs Arsenal and Real Madrid vs City matches, the teams have a 50-50 chance of winning.

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April 06, 2024, 09:39:29 AM
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One thing we should know about the Santiago Bernabéu stadium, it's a solid ground for massive winnings for Real Madrid. We have historical meetings for these teams and they're not always doing what we think will happen, instead these teams will become very competitive and ready to take up the tough race, they're willingly to ensure they're having smooth race. Manchester City are English side and we all know what that exactly means for them to feature in the UEFA Champions League. Pep Guardiola will not let his guards down and will always be there to make everything run smoothly for them.
In Santiago Bernabéu stadium, Real Madrid never loss yet in Chmapion League matches from group phase until knock out round, but last match against RB Leipzig on 16 round Madrid had to draw but lead first leg match after winning over 1-0 at Leipzig home. Currently Real Madrid always has come back mentality winning but last season Manchester City success taking one point before won over 4-0 at second legs match.
Real Madrid performance drastically change for this season, they are on confidence performance after managing top standings in La Liga and wil focus 100% for qualifying to semifinal round in champion league. First leg is most important match for Real Madrid and must winning for several goals to make easily for second leg matches.

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April 06, 2024, 10:32:19 AM
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It doesn't look like last weekend's league results had any impact on the odds of an outright UCL winner. Odds for Man City dropped slightly from x2.80 to 2.85 after 0-0 draw against Arsenal at home.
Odds for Bayern and Dortmund remain unchanged despite Borussia surprisingly beating Bayern 0-2 in an away game and are x8.0 and x26.0 respectively. I guess bookies either don't put too much weight on the direct league games between teams still participating in the UCL, or maybe they consider Borussia's win as pure luck.
Odds for Borussia winning the next game in Madrid against Atletico are x4.70 which is starting to look like a potentially good bet.

I think the game Bayern vs. Dortmund shouldn't have an impact on the odds for the Champions League games as you can't take the Bundesliga games of Bayern too seriously at this point. I am sure that they will play on a different level in the Champions League. In the Bundesliga all hope for a title was lost quite early on due to Leverkusen's remarkable performance and it is probably a motivational issue when a team understands that the result is more or less meaningless.

Atletico Madrid is weird as they are hard to predict. On the one hand they kicked out one of the biggest favorites, Inter Milan, and on the other hand they are playing so erratically in La Liga. Winning only 2 out of the last 5 games in La Liga and they lost some games against teams from the bottom of the standings. But that doesn't mean they are not the favorite against Dortmund as Dortmund is having similar issues. I doubt that Dortmund can beat them in Spain.

The bookmakers are giving Manchester City a slight edge over Real Madrid in the Bernabeu Stadium. I think I disagree here. It should be equal or slightly advantageous for Real Madrid in their home game.

Bayern Munich at odds over 4.0 could be worth a bet. I am sure that they will play a decent game in England. Whether they can win, I don't know, but they are good enough to justify a bet on over 4.0.

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April 06, 2024, 10:40:31 AM
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One thing we should know about the Santiago Bernabéu stadium, it's a solid ground for massive winnings for Real Madrid. We have historical meetings for these teams and they're not always doing what we think will happen, instead these teams will become very competitive and ready to take up the tough race, they're willingly to ensure they're having smooth race. Manchester City are English side and we all know what that exactly means for them to feature in the UEFA Champions League. Pep Guardiola will not let his guards down and will always be there to make everything run smoothly for them.
In Santiago Bernabéu stadium, Real Madrid never loss yet in Chmapion League matches from group phase until knock out round, but last match against RB Leipzig on 16 round Madrid had to draw but lead first leg match after winning over 1-0 at Leipzig home. Currently Real Madrid always has come back mentality winning but last season Manchester City success taking one point before won over 4-0 at second legs match.
Real Madrid performance drastically change for this season, they are on confidence performance after managing top standings in La Liga and wil focus 100% for qualifying to semifinal round in champion league. First leg is most important match for Real Madrid and must winning for several goals to make easily for second leg matches.
There's no need to doubt Real Madrid's mentality, but Manchester City's teams in recent seasons have also been like that so I think this will be a very even match.
What happened in Real Madrid's last match cannot be used as a reference because in my opinion we cannot just look at one match but it must be the whole and for Real Madrid's performance I think it will be quite good.

Playing the first leg at home will of course make Real Madrid more confident and with much greater motivation to make it easier for them in the second leg.
I think Real Madrid's percentage of winning at home is a little bigger, the support of Real Madrid fans will be quite influential for the team.

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April 06, 2024, 10:50:20 AM
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Everyone can like any team in the Champions League this season, but for Real Madrid everyone also knows that the performance of their players must be able to improve because in this round Real Madrid will face a strong team from England. So it will be quite a difficult match for both of them if they can both improve their squad's performance and apart from that, there will also be a lot of spectators for this match because considering the competitive tension is tougher for each of them.

Real Madrid don't have good memories against Manchester City from the time they last met up.  Sad  At Etihad they got a really huge defeat like 4-0. Considering the way Real Madrid have been playing in the Champions League recently I can't be very positive about them. The performance against Leipzig was just horrible. If Leipzig were a more capable team they would be the side to advance.

Ancelotti should prepare his players strongly for this round. I don't think they would lose home in the first leg but the second leg will be way tougher.

Real Madrid and Manchester city are just two teams that is unpredictable in the champions league quarter finals now, like the two teams are just world class, even when you watch them play you will be happy with how coordinated the players are and you will be happy watching football because of the skills and talents of this players. The both side have a nice squad and wouldn't want to lose to each other but at this stage of the champions league, one among them will be knocked out while the other moves to the next round so it's obvious one of them will give up in this stage and it is difficult to predict who among them will drop for the other to continue.

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April 06, 2024, 11:08:53 AM
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The bookmakers are giving Manchester City a slight edge over Real Madrid in the Bernabeu Stadium. I think I disagree here. It should be equal or slightly advantageous for Real Madrid in their home game.
The bookmakers are still being respectful to Manchester City because they are the defending champion and so far in the champions league this season, they have been excellent. In this season, Real Madrid look more likely to win that game because of Manchester City are not as difficult to play this season as they were last season. Real Madrid are much better than last season, It is not going to be an easy game for the defending champions.

Bayern Munich at odds over 4.0 could be worth a bet. I am sure that they will play a decent game in England. Whether they can win, I don't know, but they are good enough to justify a bet on over 4.0.
Bayern may be without Manuel Neuer, Kingsley Coman and  Leroy Sane, all because of injuries. Bayern will miss Sane more because of his speed of moving attacks, which can be important against Arsenal. I watched how Arsenal played against Manchester City in the premiership, I hope they do not play fully defensive against Bayern, they need to attack Bayern and win the game before going to Germany.

https://onefootball.com/en/news/5-bayern-munich-players-at-risk-of-missing-champions-league-clash-with-arsenal-39305557

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