User:
Kazkaz27There must be at least 3 posts by the account that meet the requirements specified in A. If its just a one-off or even two-off, the poster may deserve some leniency, but if they make a habit of it, their posts should be reported as "AI spam."
A minimum of 5 posts from this user have been identified.
Proof:
Shill Bidding is Prohibited on Most Major Platforms.
Shill bidding—where a seller or their associates place fake bids to artificially drive up the price of an item in an auction—is widely regarded as unethical and often illegal because it distorts the natural bidding process and harms genuine participants. It can deceive buyers into paying more than the item’s true market value, creating an unfair advantage for the seller while eroding trust in the auction system as a whole. In many jurisdictions, it’s classified as fraud, potentially leading to legal consequences like fines or shutdowns for those involved. Even in cases where a form of it might be disclosed, it still raises concerns about transparency and can expose systemic issues in markets like collectibles. Overall, it skews prices, discourages fair competition, and can damage the entire hobby industry.
The pressing question here regarding this topic is “is shill bidding acceptable here?”
Copyleaks- 100% AI Content Found
GPTzero- 100% chance AI Generated
Sapling- 100% AI
QuillBot- 82 % AI Text
zeroGPT- 72% AI
stealthwriter- 0% Human
Orginality- 100% Confident that's AI
Hey Mopar,
Appreciate you weighing in—your experience here is valuable, and I totally get the concern about calling out scammers. We’ve all seen too many shady situations over the years, and protecting the community from that is crucial. But just to set the record straight, that’s not what’s being proposed at all. The rule explicitly allows constructive feedback on potential scams as long as it’s backed by evidence (e.g., links to proof of fraud, misrepresentation, or past issues). Gut feelings or patterns? If you can substantiate them with real examples or data, that’s fine and encouraged—it even says to report them to mods for review.
The focus is on stopping unsubstantiated derails, personal insults, and repetitive negativity that doesn’t help anyone and just turns threads toxic (driving folks away without preventing real harm). Legit warnings with evidence? Absolutely allowed. Vague “this feels like a cash grab” rants without backup? Those get the boot to keep things productive.
If tweaking the language (e.g., clarifying how “evidence” includes historical patterns or forum links) would make it better, let’s hear it—what do you think addresses your point while still curbing the abuse?
On that note, out of curiosity: How many creators have there been in this space over the years, and how many have turned out to be actual scammers? And on the flip side, how many legitimate people do you think have been driven away because they’ve been falsely accused or ganged up on without solid evidence?
Copyleaks- 100% AI Content Found
GPTzero- 100% chance AI Generated
Sapling- 100% AI
QuillBot- 8 % AI Text
zeroGPT- 23% AI
stealthwriter- 7% Human 93%% AI
Orginality- 100% Confident that's AI
Hey owlcatz,
Thanks for chiming in—I respect your 10+ years here and get where you’re coming from on protecting newbies from shady sellers. That’s a real issue we’ve seen too often. But just to clarify, that’s not what’s being proposed at all. The rule change explicitly allows constructive feedback on potential scams as long as it’s backed by evidence (e.g., links to proof of fraud or misrepresentation). It even says: “Constructive feedback on potential scams (with evidence/links) or rule violations is allowed but should be reported to moderators for review.”
The goal isn’t to silence warnings—it’s to stop unsubstantiated derails, personal attacks, and off-topic negativity that turns sales threads into flamewars and drives people away (without actually helping buyers). Legit scam calls with proof? Totally fine and encouraged. Disputes or deeper debates? Move ’em to Reputation or PMs to keep things clean.
If we can tweak the wording to make that even clearer (e.g., emphasizing evidence-based warnings more), I’m all ears. What do you think—does that address your concern, or is there something specific you’d change?
Cheers,
Kazkaz27
Copyleaks- 100% AI Content Found
GPTzero- 100% chance AI Generated
Sapling- 100% AI
QuillBot- 0 % AI Text
zeroGPT- 23% AI
stealthwriter- 7% Human 93%% AI
Orginality- 100% Confident that's AI
I’d like to propose a rule change for BitcoinTalk’s Collectibles board to prevent derailing sales threads and harassment.
Based on the ongoing issues in the Bitcoin Collectibles Community—such as repeated derailing of sales threads with unsubstantiated pricing critiques, personal insults, harassment, and potential cliques misusing trust/merit systems or moderation influence—I propose the following targeted rule change for the Collectibles board. This draws from existing forum guidelines (e.g., avoiding flamewars, off-topic posts, and backseat moderation as per the unofficial rules compilation and general etiquette threads), but addresses gaps in enforcement for sales-focused threads.
Proposed Rule Change: “No Derailing or Harassment in Sales/Auction Threads”
New Rules:
In sales, auction, or announcement threads (e.g., those clearly marked as [AUCTION], [SALE], [ANN], or similar), posts must remain on-topic and constructive. Off-topic derails, including:
• Unsubstantiated accusations of overpricing, “cash grabs,” or scams (without clear evidence like fraud or misrepresentation).
• Personal attacks, insults, or ad hominem comments against the OP or other participants.
• Repetitive negativity unrelated to the item’s legitimacy, condition, or transaction terms.
are prohibited.
Such posts should be deleted, and repeat offenders may receive warnings, temporary bans, or negative trust feedback from moderators.
Exceptions: Constructive feedback on potential scams (with evidence/links) or rule violations is allowed but should be reported to moderators for review. Disputes should be moved to the Reputation board or private messages.
Moderators must recuse themselves from threads where they have a conflict of interest (e.g., bidding on auctions they oversee). All moderation actions in these threads must be logged publicly (e.g., via edit notes) for transparency.
Rationale and How It Helps the Cause:
• Addresses Core Issues: This directly tackles thread derails (as seen in your cases against MoparMiningLLC and anonymousminer), which shrink the community by discouraging new sellers/creators. By requiring evidence for critiques, it prevents “vendetta”-style attacks while allowing valid scam warnings.
• Promotes Growth: Encourages a free-market environment (aligning with Bitcoin ethos) where pricing debates happen elsewhere (e.g., Meta or Reputation boards), reducing bullying and helping retain users like StackItUp who left due to toxicity.
• Enforces Neutrality: The recusal clause targets potential biases (e.g., moderator Cyrus bidding on anonymousminer’s auctions), promoting fair play and reducing “clique” perceptions.
• Feasibility: Builds on existing rules (e.g., no flamewars, off-topic posts) without overhauling the system. It could be proposed in the Meta board for theymos/admin review, with enforcement via global mods.
If implemented, this could reduce drama by 50-70% based on similar rules in other boards (e.g., self-moderated threads like Wall Observer enforcing on-topic posts).
This article is being placed under unofficial rules FAQ for community input.
Copyleaks- 100% AI Content Found
GPTzero- 94% chance AI Generated
Sapling- 74% AI
QuillBot- 73 % AI Text
zeroGPT- 31% AI
stealthwriter- 8% Human 92%% AI
Orginality- 100% Confident that's AI
Hey Mopar,
Appreciate you weighing in—your experience here is valuable, and I totally get the concern about calling out scammers. We’ve all seen too many shady situations over the years, and protecting the community from that is crucial. But just to set the record straight, that’s not what’s being proposed at all. The rule explicitly allows constructive feedback on potential scams as long as it’s backed by evidence (e.g., links to proof of fraud, misrepresentation, or past issues). Gut feelings or patterns? If you can substantiate them with real examples or data, that’s fine and encouraged—it even says to report them to mods for review.
The focus is on stopping unsubstantiated derails, personal insults, and repetitive negativity that doesn’t help anyone and just turns threads toxic (driving folks away without preventing real harm). Legit warnings with evidence? Absolutely allowed. Vague “this feels like a cash grab” rants without backup? Those get the boot to keep things productive.
If tweaking the language (e.g., clarifying how “evidence” includes historical patterns or forum links) would make it better, let’s hear it—what do you think addresses your point while still curbing the abuse?
On that note, out of curiosity: How many creators have there been in this space over the years, and how many have turned out to be actual scammers? And on the flip side, how many legitimate people do you think have been driven away because they’ve been falsely accused or ganged up on without solid evidence?
Copyleaks- 100% AI Content Found
GPTzero- 94% chance AI Generated
Sapling- 74% AI
QuillBot- 8 % AI Text
zeroGPT- 23% AI
stealthwriter- 7% Human 93% AI
Orginality- 100% Confident that's AI